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Heat not getting any better That Callum Scotsman blow out was impressive
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  • Of course, if this turns out someday to be the industry standard integrated handlebar-computer-braking solution then I'll eat my kevlar-reinforced aerodynamic hat.

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    The UCI has presented a new ITT #rainbow rainbow jersey:





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    .... If they cut the desert loop, they would add laps on The Pearl.

    OK, then the logic is not to cut distance to reduce fatigue, but to run the race where help is close at hand. That is actually not a bad idea. Maybe install ice box crash pads on the outside bends too  :lol
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    A diplomatic crisis between Quatar and Norway was averted today because the cycling fan known as T-72 was NOT in the country at the time when some random Quatari official with a uniform drove his car into Susanne Andersen's bike from behind, and then reportedly walked out of the car and lit a cigarette. IF the cycling fan had been in the country, it is probable that T-72 would have been used to one of the few things T-72s are good for, namely FLATTEN THAT CAR WITH THE F!"#%"#% RETARDED DRIVER INSIDE  :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry. If that was the Quatari chief of staff, so #¤%/Y¤#% be it.

    Susanne thinks she will be ok and start the road race. Her bike is broken.
    The first Quatari - Norwegian war won't start for maybe one more year, but if  mr offical asshole  shows up in Bergen next year it might not be possible to avoid it anymore...

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    The first Quatari - Norwegian war won't start for maybe one more year, but if  mr offical asshole  shows up in Bergen next year it might not be possible to avoid it anymore...
    Since Mr Official Asshole is apparently a local Qatari police officer (with blatant disregard of both cyclists and women), the risk of him turning up in Bergen is pretty low. ;)
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    ^Wonder how long hehad a car to draft.

    I think there's one key difference  between the heat in Spain and the heat in the middle east, and that's the perception among fans. The latter tends to get a lot more heat from them.

    Qatar is not humid. Not in the day anyway. This is a regular feature in day night cricket matches in Asia.  think Mellow's regarding experience point is very valid. We'll see over the next couple of days how the more experienced riders handle the heat.
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    Finally caught up with the TTT last night on TV.

    Underwhelming comes to mind.
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    after Jnr mens ITT

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    ^Wonder how long hehad a car to draft.
    The ambulance was there for maybe 20-30 seconds.
    It wasn't optimal, and it definitely shouldn't have been there, but I think it didn't influence the race much.
    Mathis is a very strong rider, won all the endurance disciplines at the German track champs, a.o. beating Roger Kluge in the IP. He hasn't deserved to be painted as "the guy who only won due to drafting".
    Even if without having possibly gotten an advantage from drafting (and, like I said, I don't think he did), he would still have finished on the podium.
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    There are some not so pretty results from heat exhaustion to be seen in the shorter races we have seen so far. The road races must take the heat into account (although I think the weather forecast looks better).  Either go slower, or go shorter. I hope helicopter evacuation is an option if someone collapses 70 km out in the desert.
    I honestly admit I may have underestimated the heat - frostbite and hypothermia may be preferable after all. The effect seems harder on the younger riders, perhaps they are less aware of the signals or more willing to push themselves despite signs of danger. The problem is if many riders in the  RR simultaneously drive themselves  to a state of dehydration and heat exhaustion  - how large is the capacity to treat these conditions? In the desert, they will need to be evacuated into a cool environment somewhere, reasonably quick, and the distances are considerable - at least for the men's RR.
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    There are some not so pretty results from heat exhaustion to be seen in the shorter races we have seen so far. The road races must take the heat into account (although I think the weather forecast looks better).  Either go slower, or go shorter.
    The problem with "go slower" is that the riders make the race. And they're unlikely to go slower just because it would be prudent to do so; on the contrary.

    I really, really hope that the exhaustion we've seen so far will be the worst casualty we'll have during this Worlds week. :(
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    The problem with "go slower" is that the riders make the race. And they're unlikely to go slower just because it would be prudent to do so; on the contrary.

    I really, really hope that the exhaustion we've seen so far will be the worst casualty we'll have during this Worlds week. :(

    Personally, the hottest day I ever experienced was in  Arizona, so I shouldn't be too surprised that  "Heat native" *usa Brandon McNulty is victorious in Doha. There may be some advantages with familiarity with the weather:
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    Might I add just one point, most riders have been preparing for the heat of racing in Qatar by racing in the late September, early October chill of Europe. That's not perfect preparation to say the least.
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    it depends I think, the Canyon SRAM girls for example arrived 1 1/2 weeks before the start, as it (according to the team) takes 8-9 days for the body to adopt with the conditions. Not everyone has the opportunity to do that of course, or to do a training camp in Oman like the Dutch girls, but we need to keep in mind that most of those who had severe problems so far were basically "amateurs".

    Sure, some people can cope better with the heat than others, but generally I think it won't be much of a problem for the men's elite race - and all the others aren't that long anyway
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    The problem with "go slower" is that the riders make the race. And they're unlikely to go slower just because it would be prudent to do so; on the contrary.

    I really, really hope that the exhaustion we've seen so far will be the worst casualty we'll have during this Worlds week. :(

     I think our experience of watching hot, flat Vuelta stages in Southern Spain suggests that the riders will indeed "go slower" for much of the race.
    I would not at all be surprised for Sunday's event to take well over 7 hours to complete, should it be the full course.
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    Been an odd worlds so far for me.

    Feels pretty low key.

    Good win for Tony though, going to seem weird him not in a Quickstep rainbow skin suit next year though.
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    Talking of the lack of crowds, Yorkshire gets the 2019 Worlds. :D
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    Talking of the lack of crowds, Yorkshire gets the 2019 Worlds. :D

    it will be amazing to see the hundred thousands of people on the course.

    one of the few right choices made by the UCI
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    it will be amazing to see the hundred thousands of people on the course.

    one of the few right choices made by the UCI

    sure will be crowds how much will it cost to have barriers for 254 km :lol
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    Outstanding ride by Ryan Mullen. He's been touted as a big TT prospect all through the age group ranks, so it's great to see him up with the big boys in the discipline, fifth in his first elite WC TT. He was still eligible to ride as an U23, I think, certainly he is well under 23 but I'm slightly confused by the new eligibility rules for U23s with pro contracts.

    He's actually had a quiet neopro year up until this. He even got beaten by Roche and Eddie Dunbar in the Irish TT championships. Whatever about Roche, he really shouldn't be losing to Dunbar. Dunbar is a surprisingly good TTer for a midget climber (he came 9th in the U23s TT Worlds the other day), but Mullen has basic physical advantages over him and is just better at the discipline. Great to see him get back on course.
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    He was still eligible to ride as an U23, I think, certainly he is well under 23 but I'm slightly confused by the new eligibility rules for U23s with pro contracts.
    He was still eligible for U23, yes.

    It's really surprisingly simple: Anyone with a "cycling age" of 22 or less (so, for 2016, born in or after 1994) can enter U23 Worlds (and U23 Nations Cup races), pro contract or not. :)
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