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"Pay to ride" contracts
« on: November 13, 2015, 09:34 »
Those Italians ...

https://twitter.com/friebos/status/665098120003493889
https://twitter.com/friebos/status/665099126938406912

"Sure, of course we'd like to offer you a pro contract! Just sign here and have your daddy pay us 50 grand - then you'll get the same money back over the next two years."
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #1 on: November 21, 2015, 08:32 »
    Not only Italians at it:
    CyclingQuotes: Illegal practices in Dutch and Belgian cycling

    Ex #vacansoleil pro Rob Ruijgh and an anonymous rider told Dagblad De Limburger that it was also done in the BeNeLux.
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #2 on: November 21, 2015, 10:03 »
    and we all know Wurf has had his Dad as a sponsor
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #3 on: November 21, 2015, 12:35 »
    Although he was one of the team leaders, Nico Eeckhout's time at An Post "co-incided" with his family's building company buying advertising space on the shirts.

    And Ramon Carretero notoriously bought his whole career, before buying the end to it at a pharmacy.
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #4 on: November 21, 2015, 14:56 »
    Another example is Amalie Dideriksen: Her wages at #boels Boels-Dolmans are paid by the Danish cycling federation; at least they were this year.

    Sebastian Lander was hired by Scanex as "business developer" this year ... and then made available to #ttbw TREFOR-Blue Water, effectively riding as a professional.


    Here's the CN article from last week about the Italian part of it all:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/italian-investigation-claims-italian-riders-forced-to-pay-to-race/
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2015, 19:28 »
    It used to happen 'way back' when I was racing in Belg... a few of the locals would club together 'minimum wage' to get a lad onto a team and he'd effectively ride for bike, jersey and experience. There was a guy that rode for Domex that had his contract paid by his mum... I can't remember his name, but his mum was lovely!
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2015, 19:37 »
    IIRC Johnny Cantwell paid for his contract at Saxo back in 2012 and 2013
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2015, 20:40 »
    IIRC Johnny Cantwell paid for his contract at Saxo back in 2012 and 2013

    and Drapac through Swift bikes
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2015, 21:49 »
    There is a difference to come with a sponsor and to pay for your place non ?
    Cavendish, I read, comes to his new team with his sponsor.
    That is a classic move in F1 too.

    Now to pay to do the Tour is a different story.
    It is a well known fact that an ex multiple classics winner turned DS forced the last 2-3 racers selected to pay for their place.
    So they might have to come with a sponsor to race but they also had to pay to do the Tour...

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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #9 on: November 22, 2015, 09:15 »
    agreed

    many big name riders bring sponsors with them ...

    that is different to getting your parents/family/friend to "sponsor" a team so that the team will take you.

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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #10 on: February 18, 2016, 10:36 »
    Brian Smith used to have his salary paid for by a private sponsor rather than the team when he raced in the UK and when he was at Motorola.
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #11 on: February 18, 2016, 18:55 »
    In a similar way, PFP is paid by the French Gendarmarie. Being "a policeman" was a regular route onto Colombian teams, too... Dayer Quintana for example.
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #12 on: February 18, 2016, 19:58 »
    I am positive that several German female 'pro' cyclists are officially police or army officers, too. They're exempted from duty in their actual job to focus on the sport, common practice in a lot of semi-pro sports in Germany.

    It extends to the male side of the sport as well - before he became pro Tony Martin rode for the Thüringer Energie Team while being a police officer. I don't know if he ever patrolled the streets, or if his was another case of the "Staatsamateurismus" that permeated east-bloc sports and is continued as "Sportfördergruppe der Bundeswehr" and similar programs by federal and state police agencies.
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
    « Reply #13 on: February 18, 2016, 22:28 »
    There was a story of the first professional Welsh[1] women's rugby player, recently, who will continue to be paid her salary from the RAF[2] while playing.
     1. Might not be Welsh, but certainly some flavour of British
     2. Not the RAF with the bombs, the one with the planes (and the bombs)
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    Re: "Pay to ride" contracts
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