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Re: The Academy of Cycling
« Reply #270 on: June 18, 2017, 22:42 »
Huh.
Could of course simply be
3) Omer had not been able to fulfill all the team disciplinary requirements and he will therefore part ways with the team on immediate basis. :P

Come on, you don't believe that. ;)
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #271 on: June 24, 2017, 10:45 »
    https://www.israelcyclingacademy.com/blogs/cycling-academy-team/ran-margaliot-open-letter

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    In view of what is happening in social media in recent days (does he read Velorooms!), I feel the need to voice my personal opinion in public. I wrote this letter to you to open a window beside that I think most of you do not know

    Without going into details, one of the most challenging cases I had, is the decision to suspend the team last week Omer Goldstein. Omer, is one of the most talented riders in the group, one of the best ever grew up in Israel. There is no argument about it.

    The choice to suspend the disciplinary background, was very painful and made only after we were convinced that he acted in a way that is acceptable professional team and we can not help him in the present circumstances.

    Anyone who thinks that this was a decision born whim championship Israel against the clock, do not understand how professional team works. Even in matters of discipline there a way to conduct traitor steps and measures leading up to the suspension rides. Omar went through a long and complicated, which included, among other things, disciplinary committees, warnings and financial penalties, until we got to this unusual step.

    This is not a decision that I am proud of her. This is a badge of shame for the team under management, took upon itself to give a chance to all Israeli talent a potential exhaust her and at this moment I do not know to help one of the greatest talents that grew here.

    I think we all have a longer way to go and that the future will be in my hands better tools to handle such situations. Enough for me to look back a year or two to figure out how much progressed since then, some learned since. I believe we all undergo that people deserves a second chance if they wish it. We have proved this in the past and Omar gets a second chance if he chooses to be part of the group conditions required of its members.

    So Ran is in firmly in the 3rd scenario group, but I think there must have been an element of the 1st too - something happened in the TT or in the days before and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #272 on: June 24, 2017, 11:03 »
    There was some good news for the Goldstein family this morning though. It did feel a touch stage managed apart from one incident.

    A break had got away including Sagiv, Yechezkel, some of the devo guys and a couple of others including ex-Academy rider Gabay. The DS then took the unusual decision to tell the Academy riders to wait for Roy Goldstein who was a couple of minutes behind. They waited and then recaught the riders who had continued.

    Now if that was the whole story and Roy had won from there, I might have been crying foul, but Sagiv (going for his third straight title) punctured and crashed in the finale and he might have won without that. We'll have to see footage (if there is any) to see if it was a gift or not.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #274 on: July 14, 2017, 19:34 »
    https://twitter.com/DanFromNam/status/885235463589703680

    The team have just started an altitude camp in preparation for the final couple of months of the season. Well if it worked for Kittel.....
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #275 on: July 18, 2017, 20:27 »
    One race that I noticed that has been added to the team's calendar is the self styled world's toughest one-day cycle race - Pro Otztaler 5500. There's been an amateur event for a while, but this is the first year for pro riders (1.1).

    COURSE FACTS FOR PROS AND AMATEURS:

    238 kilometers
    5500 meters of altitude gain
    4 Alpine passes: Kühtai 2020 m; Brenner pass 1377 m; Jaufen pass 2090 m; Timmelsjoch 2509 m
    Start and finish in Sölden / Tirol



    My spidey senses tell me carnage awaits.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #276 on: July 25, 2017, 09:18 »
    Back racing today at the Ordiziako Klasika after a bit of break. Osterreich was the last race for some of the squad, but others haven't raced since the nats. There could be some rust.



    The new Latvian champs jersey. Would have preferred a full flag one, but hey ho.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #277 on: July 25, 2017, 12:51 »


    The new Latvian champs jersey. Would have preferred a full flag one, but hey ho.
    Nah, this is alright. But the white band should be narrower - look at the flag:
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #278 on: July 31, 2017, 14:08 »
    http://www.procycling.no/jensen-snart-klar-for-israelsk-proffsatsing/

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    Next year Carlström will be  head sports manager, and then he wants to have a Norwegian rider on board.

    "You may not have avoided noticing August Jensen during Tour des Fjords?

    "He did his stuff very well, that's for sure. There are several good riders in Norway, and he is one of the strongest. But that's what the rider wants for the coming season. We are in talks with several Norwegians. It would be very good to get one of them to our team, he admits.

    Anybody but Nordhaug.

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    "This year we had 16 riders. Next year we hope to be somewhere between 20 and 23. It's a bit challenging to run a dual program with only 16 men, he points out.

    "Last year, did you have riders from 12 different nations, and next year there will be even more?

    Yes, we have a policy that we should be international. The purpose of starting the team was to produce more Israeli talents, and we will have 3-4 domestic riders also next year. But beyond that, we want to be a bit like Israel. A kind of melting pot with different people from many nations.

    "It's also a bit of a hunch on what riders we get. It will decide whether we are turning to stage games in the World Tour or Classics. Our goal is to grow a little year by year, in this respect we are in a very interesting period, "concludes Carlström.

    If a Giro invite is forthcoming, serious reinforcements will be needed. The team has recently started following people like Hermans, Avila, Carpenter and McLay on Twitter....
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #279 on: July 31, 2017, 14:30 »
    If a Giro invite is forthcoming, serious reinforcements will be needed. The team has recently started following people like Hermans, Avila, Carpenter and McLay on Twitter....
    Subtle! :lol

    Here's some free advice for teams: Never follow riders before you've announced their signing - at least not during silly season. People like Leadbelly will turn anything into transfer rumours. :P
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #280 on: July 31, 2017, 15:16 »
    People like Leadbelly will turn anything into transfer rumours.

    In other transfer news Lukascph is either signing for RTS-Monton, Gary McQuaid or the Tour of Bulgaria. :P
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #281 on: July 31, 2017, 15:20 »
    In other transfer news Lukascph is either signing for RTS-Monton, Gary McQuaid or the Tour of Bulgaria. :P
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #282 on: August 04, 2017, 10:30 »
    https://www.facebook.com/IsraelCyclingAcademy/videos/1011453682291523/

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    You are our sports Director and here is your Dilemma:

    One of your strongest rider (Turek) is part of a breakaway that will almost certainly escape the peloton and get to the finish.

    But Your great Sprinter (Raim) back in the peloton is telling you that he is feeling "real strong".

    So what do you do? Who are you going to "sacrifice". Who are you going to bet on?

    Even ignoring the fact that they didn't get the stage win, I still don't think they got it quite right.

    For me they told Turek to stop working too far out and when the gap was still manageable for the peloton. By doing that they just threw away one of the two cards they could play.

    Better to get him keep on doing his turns (not strong ones though) and play it by ear.

    The peloton closing in? Get Turek to take stronger pulls and let the rest of the team conserve energy back in the peloton for a bit longer.

    Gap getting too big? Then you let Turek sit on or miss a few turns until the gap comes back down.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #283 on: August 04, 2017, 13:03 »
    Even ignoring the fact that they didn't get the stage win, I still don't think they got it quite right.
    It's easy to criticise, this is one of the hardest dilemmas a DS can face, and I didn't see the stage.
    But I agree with you.

    First of all, if you have someone in a breakaway that's almost certain to make it, you don't tell him to stop working.
    A bunch sprint is the absolute hardest scenario to get right in cycling - there's no limit to the number of miniscule things that can go wrong, throwing your whole gameplan out of the window. So unless the peloton is down to nothing more than 30 riders, your guy is the only real sprinter left, and he's well-protected by all available teammates, put your weight behind the breakaway.

    If you mess up your lead-out in a normal mass sprint, your sprinter finishes 15th.
    If your guy in the break can't sprint for toffee, he'll still finish better than that - and he could try anticipating the sprint with a late attack.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #284 on: August 07, 2017, 21:22 »
    so with the Giro start in Israel next year...

    ...I guess we will get to see some transfer news Leadbelly is unlikely to approve?!
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #285 on: August 07, 2017, 23:27 »
    so with the Giro start in Israel next year...

    ...I guess we will get to see some transfer news Leadbelly is unlikely to approve?!

    Could be, could be. It's not black and white though, there's plenty of grey in there. The absolute no-nos would be American hipster types and one trick pony sprinters.

    I feel they definitely need an established climber or two. However they don't grow on trees (at least great ones don't), so someone like Hermans if he was available would be a excellent selection, but he's probably way above the upper limit of realistic transfers. Woods could be an alternative from the WT level.

    Avila would be an excellent signing I think. The only smile out there to rival Chaves, can climb better than most of the current Bike Geeeeks team and has a sprint at the end.

    Carpenter is a very strong rider. Would be good for breaks, stage/jersey hunting and climbing support.

    Who else could be a potential signing?

    The Canadian link might want Houle or Tony the Tiger added to the squad, though Duchesne looks to be heading to Pineau's team.

    They have a habit of picking up on riders who they have raced against, so why not Ciccone who did really well at Utah. Bardiani can't guarantee a Giro invite in 2018.

    The most important signing however is getting Turek signed up for a few more years.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #286 on: August 08, 2017, 13:04 »
    so with the Giro start in Israel next year...

    ...I guess we will get to see some transfer news Leadbelly is unlikely to approve?!
    I would hazard a guess and say that with the Giro starting in Israel, #academy would get a wildcard even with their current squad. I mean, the *il Grande Partenza is organised by literally the same people who run the team - they'd be phenomenally stupid if they didn't put a "we get to race ourselves" clause in the deal.

    Hermans
    Woods
    Avila
    Carpenter
    Houle
    Tony Duchesne
    Ciccone
    Good picks, though I'd agree that Hermans may be above their paygrade.
    First and foremost, I hope that they continue their mission of picking riders from "non-traditional" countries and don't bring in half a dozen Italians (or similar) now.

    The most important signing however is getting Turek signed up for a few more years.
    Definitely. Turek is a world-class breakaway specialist.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #287 on: August 08, 2017, 18:18 »
    It remains to be seen if the other Dan will be part of the team in 2018. He's only had 19 race days and although he is over the US at the moment, he didn't race in Utah and won't in Colorado going by the start list. Is he ready to hang up the bike? Get involved in media? Coaching or DSing?

    How about Krists Neilands in Portugal! :bow[1]

    12th on the only big MTF and I wouldn't say that sort of stuff is his forte. He was only really starting to lose contact with leaders a little bit before Antunes and Alarcon jumped away. He, Silin and Schelling can have a little non-Roman European GC competition between them.

     1. No bow emoticon?
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #288 on: August 08, 2017, 19:28 »
    How about Krists Neilands in Portugal! :bow[1]
     1. No bow emoticon?
    There is now![2]
     2. It was pray :pray if you want to know
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #289 on: August 14, 2017, 15:14 »
    https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp1

    Last climbing stage in Portugal and Neilands is in a fight with Luis Gomes to hang onto the white jersey. Both are in the break and the peloton is ~2m30 back.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #290 on: August 14, 2017, 15:36 »
    All change.

    Alarcon and Antunes have bridged and Neilands (for the time being - looking a bit shaky) + another W52 is all that is left.

    Still 7km of the climb to go?
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #291 on: August 14, 2017, 20:48 »
    https://twitter.com/avozgurozan/status/897155710517161984

    https://www.facebook.com/IsraelCyclingAcademy/posts/1020359581400933

    Well he couldn't hang on to the W-52 duo all the way to the line, but even after he got dropped the chasing group didn't make up much time on him. I think the gap was ~3m30 when he had to let them go and it was down to ~3 minutes at the line. So some smart racing not to completely blow himself up.

    What was also smart was getting in the break. A few others around him in the GC had the same idea (Gomes, Fonte and Schelling), but he was the only one who managed to hang on after being caught. The youth jersey (and the unofficial non-Latin European one) should be his now barring something awful tomorrow in the TT.

    It's been a very impressive week from him and to be honest when the road has gone uphill he has had not much support from the team. If he had had somebody, on stage 5 in particular, to eat wind/lead him out then a stage victory might not have been beyond him.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #293 on: August 25, 2017, 21:30 »
    A surprisingly good day at the Pro Otztaler. Diaz in 10th, Sessler in 17th (!) on his debut and Van Winden in 26th gave the Bike Geeeeeeks a second place in the team comp (if such a thing existed) behind the dominant Orica. Naturally the profile gave bigger gaps than a normal one day race, but this is still an encouraging performance.

    Schaal-Sels up next for Raim and co.

    https://twitter.com/mihkelraim/status/901042179472228352
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #294 on: August 27, 2017, 09:29 »
    Omer Goldstein may have left the devo team under a cloud, but he certainly hasn't given up on cycling. He's now riding for AMPO in Spain and has been doing quite nicely.

    https://twitter.com/deportesdv/status/900594876571635712

    He beat Samitier (who's probably joining Movistar) into second place.

    Considering the lack of visible racing that the devo team has been doing since that trio of Spanish races, making this switch is probably a good thing for his development.
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #295 on: August 29, 2017, 08:13 »
    Ben Hermans interview in Het Nieuwsblad today



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    He says the team wants to go WT within two years
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    « Reply #296 on: August 29, 2017, 10:34 »
    He says the team wants to go WT within two years
    A WT team without any real sponsor, solely on the dime of Ron Baron & Sylvan Adams?
    I'll believe it when I see it. :shh
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #297 on: August 29, 2017, 18:51 »
    There could be a certain bike manufacturer looking for a new main interest. :shh

    But yeah, lots of teams say they want to go WT in two/three years and nothing ever happens. So no breath is being held by me and to be honest I'd prefer them to stay at PCT anyway (and ride a few more .2 races).
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #298 on: August 29, 2017, 20:51 »
    With the newest signings, let's have a look at how a possible Giro squad could look.
    Almost certain to be included, in my opinion:
    *be Hermans
    *es Plaza
    *no Holst Enger
    *ee Räim
    *cz Turek
    *lv Neilands
    *mx Lemus

    That leaves two spots for others[1]. Boivin, Craven, Dempster, and van Winden haven't been announced as having a deal for 2018 yet; either of those wouldn't be out of place in a GT squad.
    I believe there may be a "quota Israeli" as well - Guy Sagiv has to be the frontrunner for that, with Aviv Yechezkel and Roy Goldstein as outsiders. This might cost someone like Neilands, Lemus, Dempster, or Craven their spot.
     1. or even only one if the reduction in GT squads goes ahead
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    Re: The Academy of Cycling
    « Reply #299 on: August 30, 2017, 09:47 »
    http://www.bikemagazine.com.br/2017/08/entrevista-nicolas-sessler-talento-brasileiro-agora-no-pelotao-pro/

    Sessler interview.

    With the newest signings, let's have a look at how a possible Giro squad could look.

    I think I've covered most of my thoughts already in the transfer thread, but I'm getting more pessimistic about the chances of the youngsters. There's probably more signings incoming (support for Hermans?) and the team might feel that having experienced riders like Dempster and Van Winden for dom duties or helping in sprints would be more appropriate. I'd love to be wrong, but the more I think about it, even having one (Krists?) might be pushing it.

    When it comes to the Israeli selection issue, Goldstein will surely be guaranteed a place due to his Nats win and jersey. Aviv and Guy fighting over another spot.
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