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Of course, if this turns out someday to be the industry standard integrated handlebar-computer-braking solution then I'll eat my kevlar-reinforced aerodynamic hat.

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Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
« Reply #61 on: April 12, 2016, 10:08 »
Paris-Roubaix update for #movistar

 *pt Nelson Oliveira has a fractured left collarbone and left radial head fissure. Neither is serious enough to warrant surgery and he is expected to recover in 3-4 weeks[1].

 *es Fran Ventoso was - as we all know - viciously attacked by a rogue disc brake. He has had the wound drained and sutured to allow the swiftest possible recovery.

https://t.co/zj5vKuz6q8

EDIT - Interestingly, Movistar are not willing/able to confirm that Ventoso's injury was caused by a disc brake:

https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/719815114510229504
 1. Which might give him time to squeeze into the Giro squad, which I suspect was the team's plan
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #62 on: April 12, 2016, 14:09 »
    Gilbert update

    seems he will be question by police now as the Guys were not drunk, they called to cops and Gilbert used somesort of spray ( ie pepper spray ) which is illegal  and he is out of Wednesday Ardennes warm up and Amstel not 100% likely and a Contract year   
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #63 on: April 12, 2016, 14:30 »
    oh dear  :fp
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #64 on: April 12, 2016, 16:37 »
    He's as much a part of the peloton as anyone - like him or not...

    Carlton Kirby (Team Eurosport Pro Cycling Team) out of Amstel Gold Race with that most cycling of injuries...

    https://twitter.com/carltonkirby/status/719910587929636865
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #65 on: April 12, 2016, 18:03 »
    He's as much a part of the peloton as anyone - like him or not...

    Carlton Kirby (Team Eurosport Pro Cycling Team) out of Amstel Gold Race with that most cycling of injuries...
    I didn't know the clavicle had anything to do with one's ability to speak. :P
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #66 on: April 12, 2016, 18:07 »
    I didn't know the clavicle had anything to do with one's ability to speak.
    I suspect it's the opiates that would have the effect ;-)
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #67 on: April 13, 2016, 07:58 »
    I suspect it's the opiates that would have the effect ;-)

    What? they'd make him talk sense.... If thats all it takes i can hook him up with a dealer

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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #68 on: April 13, 2016, 08:05 »
    Gilbert update

    seems he will be question by police now as the Guys were not drunk, they called to cops and Gilbert used somesort of spray ( ie pepper spray ) which is illegal  and he is out of Wednesday Ardennes warm up and Amstel not 100% likely and a Contract year

    from the cyclists  side via Laz

    http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=4843.msg221078#msg221078
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #69 on: April 13, 2016, 14:04 »
    #greenedge Docker info, via his brother Kirk

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    “But in terms of what he’s done to his face: he’s broken his nose, he’s broken his cheek bone – he’s sent me a list of his injuries…

    “Basically: broken cheek bone, broken nose, broken teeth and ‘face parts’.

    “Heavy fall on both his knee and shoulder but no breaks.

    [...]

    “Basically he went over the bars and just landed on his face. What happened there is how he got those injuries.

    “He’s pretty lucky, all things considered – and it’s pretty horrific – but the surgeon and the team doctor who speaks French, have both said he’s pretty lucky.

    “He’s broken his cheek bone but it’s the bone right near his eye and he could have lost an eye…

    “He’s got no head (brain) injuries; it’s all been given the all-clear.

    “The head injuries [is what] he was really concerned about so they’re really mainly cosmetic [injuries] I suppose… and ones which are hurting and ones which are going to keep him off the bike for a little bit.”

    http://www.ridemedia.com.au/interviews/update-on-mitch-docker-hes-pretty-lucky-all-things-considered/
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #70 on: April 13, 2016, 15:30 »
    EDIT - Interestingly, Movistar are not willing/able to confirm that Ventoso's injury was caused by a disc brake:

    Movistar may have hedged their bets, but Ventoso himself clearly isn't hedging his.

    https://www.facebook.com/fran.ventoso.9/posts/10156809619355611

    Scroll down for the English translation. And - fair warning etc... - he includes pictures of the wound. Not for the squeamish.
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #71 on: April 13, 2016, 19:27 »

    You beat me to it... i was just coming in with Ventoso.. looking at those photos you cant deny that was a disc..
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #72 on: April 14, 2016, 00:46 »
    there were a few riders who were very vocal against disc's all along, for this very reason

    when riding in the peloton, there IS going to be crashes ... and having disc's on bikes makes crashing into that bike more dangerous.

    logic.
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #73 on: April 14, 2016, 07:00 »
    there were a few riders who were very vocal against disc's all along, for this very reason

    when riding in the peloton, there IS going to be crashes ... and having disc's on bikes makes crashing into that bike more dangerous.

    logic.

    Some riders spoke out from the very begining.. typical UCI made the desicion by speaking to teams money men... not the riders

    Like Fifa deciding to bring in a ball with razar wire to deter handling of the ball it was going to be sponsored and make the team money.. yeah say the money men, fillinf their boots - feck off the players say

    (the above is not factual just an illustration  :lol)
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #74 on: April 15, 2016, 01:31 »
    http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/article/2016/04/15/uci-suspends-disc-brake-testing-after-ventoso-injury

    The International Cycling Union (UCI) has announced the immediate suspension of its disc brake trial currently being carried out in road races.

    This decision follows a request to do so made by the Association Internationale des Groupes Cyclistes Professionnels (AIGCP) – which represents all professional cycling teams – after Movistar Team rider Francisco Ventoso was seriously injured at Sunday’s Paris-Roubaix Classic.


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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #75 on: April 15, 2016, 01:48 »
    and another opinion ...

    http://road.cc/content/tech-news/186146-have-disc-brakes-really-led-injuries-peloton


    suggesting that essentially unless its proved that they are dangerous ... we should let disc brakes in because ... well the manufacturers want them   :-x
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #76 on: April 15, 2016, 09:38 »
    suggesting that essentially unless its proved that they are dangerous ... we should let disc brakes in because ... well the manufacturers want them   :-x
    Well, money talks. Cycling in particular is a sponsor-driven sport.
    We've all seen the laughable photo ops pros have been subjected to - Lefevère's team seems to have a knack for these (Innergetic pillows, LIDL vegetables, Quick Step floors ... I could go on).
    If a team's bike sponsor wants the team to ride with disc brakes: How much choice do the riders have?


    However, this view misses a key aspect: Safety.
    Riders have been complaining about electronic shifting, and some have quietly gone back to mechanical shifting. If they are to be believed, electronic shifting has cost riders races. And that is only a performance issue.

    Some people argue that the performance benefits outweigh the danger of getting injured by discs (that is small in their opinion anyway).
    A different argument would be that even with performance benefits, a new technology should be required to be as safe as possible before being introduced to a full peloton of 200 riders all fighting for the win.

    Nuclear power plants produce a lot of energy and are, for the most part, safe if handled correctly. However, when things do go wrong, the consequences are more than disastrous. It is because of that (however small) risk of very serious damage that many are against it.

    Now, I don't want to compare disc brakes to nuclear power, but the argument can be transferred.
    We're used to having spokes and chain rings on race bikes, both of which can injure riders in some circumstances. Spokes can severe fingers! But they were introduced at a time when rigorous safety regulations weren't really a thing. If they were invented today, I have some doubt that spokes would get past the safety test.


    I don't have a fixed position on whether or not disc brakes should be allowed (and hence, used) in the pro peloton. But I believe that given many riders' aversion to them, a serious study is necessary to determine if they do pose the risks some think they do.
    We already have mechanics filing off "lawyers' tabs" on the pro bikes; they were introduced to secure the wheel even if the quick-release wasn't tightened. Could we have hobby riders riding around with "pros' shields" on their disc brake-equipped bikes soon?
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #77 on: April 15, 2016, 10:11 »
    Personally, and I speak as someone who recently lost a tiny piece of little finger to a disk wheel, I'm still in favour of disk brakes. And if this trial has highlighted the need to make them safer, then so be it.

    The need for disk brakes is in itself a safety issue, i.e. the unreliability of braking with carbon wheels in variable conditions which has seen any number of riders disappear over the side of mountains. While the causes of each incident are a matter of debate, Chris Boardman, who knows a thing or two about bike manufacture, is very outspoken about the contribution carbon wheels have to play.

    Stating the bleeding obvious, braking is an important attribute when it comes to bicycles and so are wheels. What is not so bleeding obvious is the need to compromise braking or wheel performance when combining the two.

    So disk brakes are the future, just not quite yet.
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #78 on: April 18, 2016, 07:12 »
    Fabio Felline came down during the roll out of Sundays Amstel Gold Race a freak accident proclaimed by Trek, he was cleaning dirt? off his front wheel and went over, very heavily.

    Trek have announced a fractured skull, tweet attached (if it works) athough Felline was tweeting Sunday night his thanks for good wishes.

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     RE https://twitter.com/cyclingnieuws1/status/722671997872914432
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #79 on: April 19, 2016, 06:33 »

    Alexis 'The Guppy Vuillermoz suffered cranial trauma after a crash in Amstel Gold.  Why this is only coming to light now i do not know (I could have missed it at work..

    RE https://twitter.com/AG2RLAMONDIALEc/status/722069301184839681
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #80 on: April 23, 2016, 09:00 »
    Update on Felline, he's out of hospital with a brace for 2 months at least

    https://twitter.com/cyclismactu/status/723765467559526401

    Looks very painful, Ten Dam'ish
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #81 on: April 28, 2016, 19:38 »
    Gaviria out of his upcoming races with a fractured finger.

    http://www.etixx-quickstep.com/en/news/detail/fernando-gaviria-update/2669

    He fell off a ladder  :dizzy

    If he wasn't injured he'd have definitely won every race he was going to be in of course ;)
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #85 on: June 01, 2016, 15:01 »
    #bardiani news

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    SONNY COLBRELLI STOPPED BY PNEUMONIA

    Sonny Colbrelli’s after-Giro d’Italia didn’t start in the best way. Today the Bardiani-CSF’s rider has been diagnosed symptoms of pneumonia after a medical check at Desenzano Hospital.

    On Sunday, after Giro’s last stage in Torino, Colbrelli suffered symptoms of fever. During last two days fever intensified over 39°C. This morning, without any sign of improvement and following team instructions, Colbrelli went to the hospital.

    Doctors decided for antibiotics therapy and, later today, he could leave the hospital. To ensure the best recover, team management and team doctor Giampaolo Benini decided for twenty days of absolute rest. After this period there will be further examinations to allow the rider to start training.
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    Re: Man Down injury reports Season 2016
    « Reply #86 on: June 03, 2016, 09:36 »
    https://twitter.com/roliveira57/status/738404833229672448

    Rui Oliveira #bikecp crashed out during Stage 2 of the Tour de Gironde. His injury means he will (barring a miracle of modern medicine) miss the U23 European Track Championships in July.
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