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2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
« on: January 03, 2016, 23:31 »
The third edition of the game for the more patient CQer starts here.

The rules are as before: 18 riders each of whom, regardless of their age or the level they ride at, have accumulated less than 200 points throughout their career.  I have posted a very long, but by no means exclusive, list of riders who are (I think, probably worth checking) eligible on Dropbox, but to be honest, it is probably more efficient to choose the youngsters who you think will blossom over the next three years, and check their CQ page to see that the sum of all their career points is at most 199. Don't forget that some riders with no points and no current contract won't have a CQ page.

Scoring is the CQ points they gain from 1/1/16 to 31/12/18, and that is a long enough scoring period that there is no real advantage to be gained in the first month, so teams need to be in by the last moment of January (GMT).

As usual, names in CQ format please, with nothing else on the line.  If the rider has no CQ page, then hope that SURNAME Forename is what CQ will go with (and if he is Portuguese, they won't but I'll track him down eventually).  Submit your entry by PM on either Cycling News or Velorooms: one keen entrant already has.

Good luck, enjoy the challenge and the gentler pace of a three year race, and keep an eye out for monthly updates.
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 11:29 »
    Team submitted

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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 10:28 »
    when is the deadline AC ?

    Sorry as we know from the youth game I can´t read if you have written it
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #3 on: January 07, 2016, 10:31 »
    The selected riders list for the Youth CQ Ranking Game could act as a communal shortlisting for this game

    Here is the list of riders selected in that game from which I have removed those ineligible for this effort:

    Spoiler (hover to show)

    Simply select 18 of these (or any other rider who has a lifetime total of less than 200 CQ points) and watch them soar or fail from now to the end of 2018.
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 10:46 »
    Entries as of midnight, beginning of 31st January (GMT), 24 hours to go:

    0w1s
    Abbulf
    Amis Velo
    Armchair Cyclist
    Blues in the Bottle
    Comodoro
    Del1962
    DJW
    Flo
    GP Blanco
    Guilherme Ribeiro
    Hugo Koblet
    Joelsim
    Josedin
    Just Some Guy
    Kazistuta
    Leadbelly
    Ludwigzgz
    Lukas CPH
    MC Mountain
    Murrjt
    Rote Laterne
    Ruudz0r
    Scrooll07
    Togo
    Trudgin
    Vladimir
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  • « Last Edit: January 31, 2016, 00:15 by Armchair Cyclist »

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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 10:49 »
    Armchair, Wippert is on that list and he's definitely not <200 :P
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 11:07 »
    Just sent in my team too, tried to have many different nationalities (have 12), multiple Frenchmen and Italians though as usual
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 11:10 »
    Armchair, Wippert is on that list and he's definitely not <200 :P
    I have a feeling that Wippert's ineligibility is going to be some sort of inside-joke for the next couple of years ... :D
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 11:11 »
    I have a feeling that Wippert's ineligibility is going to be some sort of inside-joke for the next couple of years ... :D
    :D ... I hope JSG sends in Wippert for this game too :P and no, Ive checked, the Odd viking isn't eligible either ;)
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 11:12 »
    when is the deadline AC ?

    Sorry as we know from the youth game I can´t read if you have written it

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    so teams need to be in by the last moment of January (GMT).
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 11:13 »
    Armchair, Wippert is on that list and he's definitely not <200 :P

    Thanks for that: I had removed several, not sure how Wippert slipped through.  Now removed.
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 11:15 »
    Thanks for that: I had removed several, not sure how Wippert slipped through.  Now removed.
    Wippert is just a sneaky bugger :D
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 20:21 »
    A Wippertless team has been sent in
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #13 on: January 07, 2016, 20:29 »
    I have a feeling that Wippert's ineligibility is going to be some sort of inside-joke for the next couple of years ... :D

    Along with the Dan Craven (non)interview.  :P
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #14 on: January 07, 2016, 20:46 »
    So what i have to do to play this game?
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #15 on: January 07, 2016, 21:05 »
    So what i have to do to play this game?

    18 riders who have scored less than 200 CQ points in their careers to date
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #16 on: January 07, 2016, 21:11 »
    18 riders who have scored less than 200 CQ points in their careers to date

    Thanks , i already submitted my team!
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #17 on: January 09, 2016, 15:45 »
    Not sure if this in particular has been done, I recall similar things with different years but seeing as I'm a bit bored on a Saturday afternoon I thought I might as well give it a go.

    If you look at the years 2013-2015 and see who would have been available for selection if this game was running at the start of the 2013 season I think this would be this best possible team.


    NAT       NAME   2015 2014 2013 TOTAL   Points pre 2013
    *fr      COQUARD Bryan      807      542      742      2091      34
    *be      WELLENS Tim      774      748      132      1654      170
    *nl      VAN POPPEL Danny      695      448      289      1432      63
    *co      ARREDONDO MORENO Julian David      213      675      456      1344      161
    *ru      ZAKARIN Ilnur      767      478      86      1331      123
    *gb      YATES Adam      599      662      55      1316      0
    *be      THEUNS Edward      1064      227      25      1316      11
    *fr      ALAPHILIPPE Julian      826      358      74      1258      51
    *be      LAMPAERT Yves      724      347      162      1233      15
    *fr      VUILLERMOZ Alexis      698      358      89      1145      15
    *za      MEINTJES Louis      617      306      199      1122      29
    *be      BENOOT Tiesj      872      214      30      1116      0
    *it      SBARAGLI Kristian      601      339      147      1087      85
    *it      BONIFAZIO Niccolo      561      484      18      1063      0
    *at      ZOIDL Riccardo      190      382      455      1027      162
    *it      FORMOLO Davide      353      593      59      1005      27
    *it      BONGIORNO Francesco Manuel      187      400      399      986      132
    *ch      DILLIER Silvan      381      492      106      979      59
          Total      10929      8053     3523      22505       


    Technically if you take the points Mirsamad Pourseyedi has got in the last three years (1348) he should be in there as looking at CQ he had 169 points before 2013 however he had points taken off him in 2011 that would have put him over the limit so rightly or wrongly I decided to exclude him.

    I have probably missed somebody off this but hopefully most are correct!
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #18 on: January 09, 2016, 17:18 »
    Not sure if this in particular has been done, I recall similar things with different years but seeing as I'm a bit bored on a Saturday afternoon I thought I might as well give it a go.

    !

    I had a go at looking what a game coming to end of the cycle when the game started (ie 2012-2014) can't remember what the * denote though!

    If this game had just come to the end of a 3 year cycle (and had started at the same time as the first main game), it would have been possible to score 25730 if you'd had the good fortune to select

    Quintana
    Kittel
    Demare
    Bouhanni
    Kwiatkowski*
    Betancur
    Majka
    Talansky
    Bardet
    Kelderman
    Vichot
    Slagter
    Dumoulin
    Izagirre
    Debusschere
    Durbridge*
    Dennis
    Dowsett*

    you could probably have improved on that if you managed to predict the career of any of the following.

    Martinez
    Coquard
    Zoidl
    Arrendondo
    Nizzolo
    Hofland
    Chernetskiy
    Bongiorno
    Herrada
    Mezgec
    Jungels
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #19 on: January 10, 2016, 12:16 »
    Technically if you take the points Mirsamad Pourseyedi has got in the last three years (1348) he should be in there as looking at CQ he had 169 points before 2013 however he had points taken off him in 2011 that would have put him over the limit so rightly or wrongly I decided to exclude him.
    You raise an issue that I have not really considered in terms of eligibility, and which has not arisen in the two previous edition of the game.  In terms of sanctioned riders, I would want to take an inclusive definition of "gaining" or "accumulating" 200 points, that is, including points subsequently wiped.  I believe this is consistent with the understanding of being for riders who are emerging into the upper echelons of the sport.
    This makes team checking rather harder: I would ask participants to not deliberately try to sneak such riders through, and to keep an eye out for ineligible riders in teams when they are published, or even more helpfully, drawing attention in advance to riders who might be under consideration but whose tally including deducted points is 200 or more.
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #20 on: January 10, 2016, 12:23 »
    Pretty sure I just got 10 points  :)
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #21 on: January 10, 2016, 20:28 »
    Pretty sure I just got 10 points  :)
    The same 10 points that Tom Scully got my Youth game team in the NZ TT: you did indeed.
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    « Reply #22 on: January 10, 2016, 20:33 »
    Pretty sure I just got 10 points  :)
    Well I didn't but one of my kiddos finished 2nd in their national CX champs  does that count :)
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    « Reply #23 on: January 10, 2016, 20:56 »
    Well I didn't but one of my kiddos finished 2nd in their national CX champs  does that count :)
    We all look forward to the day when CQ gives points for cyclocross, but alas, it has not yet arrived.
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #24 on: January 10, 2016, 23:17 »
    Team submitted  :cool
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #25 on: January 11, 2016, 17:38 »
    You raise an issue that I have not really considered in terms of eligibility, and which has not arisen in the two previous edition of the game.  In terms of sanctioned riders, I would want to take an inclusive definition of "gaining" or "accumulating" 200 points, that is, including points subsequently wiped.  I believe this is consistent with the understanding of being for riders who are emerging into the upper echelons of the sport.
    This makes team checking rather harder: I would ask participants to not deliberately try to sneak such riders through, and to keep an eye out for ineligible riders in teams when they are published, or even more helpfully, drawing attention in advance to riders who might be under consideration but whose tally including deducted points is 200 or more.
    Riders who have had points wiped for doping should have a note on their CQ profile, so it's hard to miss.
    It would have to be some sort of "Gentleman's Agreement" as checking each and every submitted rider would be painstakingly tedious; but I think I can speak for all of us when I say that nobody involved in cycling would ever knowingly cheat.





    Eh ... well. Nobody involved in watching and analysing cycling, maybe. :lol
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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #26 on: January 11, 2016, 17:43 »
    Riders who have had points wiped for doping should have a note on their CQ profile, so it's hard to miss.
    It would have to be some sort of "Gentleman's Agreement" as checking each and every submitted rider would be painstakingly tedious; but I think I can speak for all of us when I say that nobody involved in cycling would ever knowingly cheat.





    Eh ... well. Nobody involved in watching and analysing cycling, maybe. :lol


    I would if it meant a win Lukas.

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    « Reply #27 on: January 11, 2016, 17:44 »
    I would if it meant a win Lukas.
    But could you look in the mirror after such a blatant act of cheating on your fellow CQ-gamers? Shame on you. Shame, I say.
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    « Reply #28 on: January 11, 2016, 17:46 »
    But could you look in the mirror after such a blatant act of cheating on your fellow CQ-gamers? Shame on you. Shame, I say.

    Ah, but if no-one spots it, then I'm not cheating.

    And it would be my first time.

    It must have been a contaminated asthma supplement m'lord.

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    Re: 2016-18 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #29 on: January 11, 2016, 17:57 »

    As I am a masochistic Scottish jakey - how do I get into this game?
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