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U23 news, results, rumours and all that jazz in 2016
« on: January 23, 2016, 09:25 »
There was plenty of jaw-jaw about U23 racing last year, so here's a spanking new thread to prove that we at VR truly have our fingers on the knob of youth ...
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    First up are the U23 Asian titles.

    TT first and a resounding win for Mongolia, for which we don't have a flag afaik:

    1. *mn Maral-Erdene Batmunkh 45m 22.00s
    2. *hk Ka Hoo Fung at 47.00s
    3. *jp Masaki Yamamoto at 01m 04.00s

    In the RR, we have the first Iranian winner since 2013:

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    There was plenty of jaw-jaw about U23 racing last year, so here's a spanking new thread to prove that we at VR truly have our fingers on the knob of youth ...
    Either an ambition I wish to totally disassociate myself from, or an unfortunate consequence of translating idiomatic phrases.
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    TT first and a resounding win for Mongolia, for which we don't have a flag afaik:
    Try harder, Laz. It's *mn mn, not mg. :P

    Also, here's the full U23 ITT result:
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    As a recent article in DirectVelo points out, much of the very best of *be youth talent in recent years is now in the professional ranks.

    In 2016, six more launched their careers:

    #etixx

    Laurens De Plus

    #topsport

    Ruben Pols
    Aimé De Gendt
    Kenneth Van Rooy
    Maxime Farazijn
    Dries Van Gestel

    So who's left and who should we be looking at this season? Belgian U23 boss JP Dubois lists these names...

    Classics:

    These guys could all have turned pro already, so they have some work still to do.

    #bmc Devo Nathan Van Hooydonck
    #seg Jenthe Biermans
    #etixx U23 Benjamin Declercq

    Sprinters:

    Lots of talent here, ripe for the Qatar Worlds.

    #lotto U23 Enzo Wouters
    #lotto U23 Milan Menten
    #etixx U23 Dennis Deltombe
    #colorcode Charlie Arimont

    Climbers:

    Not too much to talk about here but a couple of good names.

    #lotto U23 Steff Craes
    #etixx U23 Jacob Relaes

    http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/48823-les-espoirs-belges-a-surveiller-en-2016.html (FR)
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    In a similar vein, but with a lean to mainly French riders, Velo-Club have been doing interviews with the "Les Champions de demain".

    http://www.velo-club.net/route/continentales/continentales-news/109200-recap-les-champions-de-demain

    *fr

    Felix Pouilly
    Aurélien Paret-Peintre
    Leo Vincent
    Clément Betouigt-Suire

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    Pavel Sivakov

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    Filippo Ganna
    Edoardo Affini

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    Bjorg Lambrecht
    Thomas Vereecken

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    As the new season opens, #ag2r feeder team Chambéry Cyclisme Fondation faces a tough time matching a singular 2015, in which it racked up a record breaking 29 wins.

    "Things should continue much like last year," predicts team manager Loïc Varnet, "the youngest guys have progressed well and the core of the team is still the same."

    When asked what would constitute a successful season, Varnet's response manages to be both sensible and surprising:

    "First and foremost that every rider passes his exams. It's important for us. In three out of the last four years, every rider has passed them."

    "On a sporting level," he continues, "we need to be setting ourselves up for the win every time and then try to pull it off. And we need to help some of the guys turn pro. That's our vocation ... So we're about putting together the right conditions for success both on and off the bike.

    "Unlike other teams, we don't head south for training camps. Our riders train in Chambéry and sometimes it snows. But the good thing about youngsters is that they stay motivated even in bad weather. Team spirit is high again this year and that's good to see. The second half of the winter was really positive. They worked hard, did some 'cross and, when the track in Grénoble reopened, some of that too. In the last five weeks, they've basically ground out the kilometres. They followed the programme and there haven't been any problems. I'm not going to be worried about them when the racing kicks off."

    http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/48919-chambery-cf-dans-la-continuite-de-2015.html (FR)
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    Now here's something you don't see every day.

    On Stage 2 of the Circuit des Plages Vendéennes, Direct Energie feeder team Vendée-U was under pressure to perform on local turf, so it put together a breakaway ...



    ... and took out the entire Top 10.

    Channelling Gewiss or just trolling the race? :lol :lol :lol

    http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/48984-circuit-des-plages-vendeennes-ep-2-classement.html (FR)
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    Now here's something you don't see every day.

    On Stage 2 of the Circuit des Plages Vendéennes, Direct Energie feeder team Vendée-U was under pressure to perform on local turf, so it put together a breakaway ...



    ... and took out the entire Top 10.

    Channelling Gewiss or just trolling the race? :lol :lol :lol

    http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/48984-circuit-des-plages-vendeennes-ep-2-classement.html (FR)

    I didn't know there were races allowing 10 man teams.

    Are you sure it wasn't a TTT?
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    I didn't know there were races allowing 10 man teams.

    Are you sure it wasn't a TTT?

    I think at this level you can just enter with any numbers. There were also two other Vendée U riders in 76th and 78th place.

    In any case, it's a crazy result. Almost impossible at senior level due to the rules, Nat Champs being an exception. IIRC in last year's Belgian Nats, #topsport started with all 24 riders.
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    Vendée-U continued its remarkable domination today of the Circuit des Plages Vendéennes with places 1, 3, 4 and 7 out of the top 10 on Stage 3. Stage winner Simon Sellier is now the overall leader on GC, which itself features Vendée-U riders in places 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10, while there are three stages left in the race.
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    Just thought you might like to know that Vendée-U did let some other riders have a go.

    In the end, the Circuit des Plages Vendéennes was won by Vendée-U's Charles Herbert from Kevins Le Cunff of Auber93 and Fouache of Creuse Oxygène.
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    Just thought you might like to know that Vendée-U did let some other riders have a go.
    They did still take the win, mind. :lol
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    IIRC in last year's Belgian Nats, #topsport started with all 24 riders.

    You have to give them credit, though... it worked.



    I wonder how many of this apparent Vendée-U supersquad will ever make it at the top level. Having good young riders is one thing, but turning them into the next Coquard, Pinot or - dare I say - Voeckler is a whole other challenge.

    And given recent comments from JV about Pierre Rolland, I'm not sure it's going to be quite the conveyor belt they would like.
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    You have to give them credit, though... it worked.



    I wonder how many of this apparent Vendée-U supersquad will ever make it at the top level. Having good young riders is one thing, but turning them into the next Coquard, Pinot or - dare I say - Voeckler is a whole other challenge.

    And given recent comments from JV about Pierre Rolland, I'm not sure it's going to be quite the conveyor belt they would like.

    I was there and the race was more a question of how Roelandts lost than how Van Hecke won. ;)

    Yeah, not many of them, one would suppose. As has been pointed out recently by Jimmy Casper, youngsters don't want to ride as a team because it means they're less likely to get noticed.
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    I was there and the race was more a question of how Roelandts lost than how Van Hecke won. ;)

    Don't go using reality as a counter-argument, Larri  :P :lol

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    Yeah, not many of them, one would suppose. As has been pointed out recently by Jimmy Casper, youngsters don't want to ride as a team because it means they're less likely to get noticed.

    Unfortunately, working as part of a team is - with very few exceptions - what new, young pros would have to do. An interesting conundrum. Glad that I'm a) not good enough to be a pro cyclist[1] and b) too old to be a neo-pro.
     1. Although I will happily discuss my VO2max if anyone wants to
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    Don't go using reality as a counter-argument, Larri  :P :lol

    Unfortunately, working as part of a team is - with very few exceptions - what new, young pros would have to do. An interesting conundrum. Glad that I'm a) not good enough to be a pro cyclist[1] and b) too old to be a neo-pro.
     1. Although I will happily discuss my VO2max if anyone wants to

    Kids tend to ride for themselves with all but the rarest exceptions, such as when representing their country. That's why a neo pro has a lot of learning to do. The French produce some of the very best young cyclists in the world but the challenge is to keep them stepping up year after year and to keep them at work in mind and body but, until fairly recently at least, that was proving difficult for French pro teams.
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    Another name to watch. Chambéry Cyclisme Fondation, also known as the feeder team for #ag2r, welcomes a Dutchman this year in the form of Jaap De Jong.

    De Jong, until recently a trainee chef, claims that the only French words he knew on arrival were "bonjour" and "bon appétit". He was surprised at how seriously his French teammates took their dietary intake: "I get the impression it's an obsession here", he says.

    Unlike most other members of the Chambéry CF, De Jong is a big rouleur and, at 194cm tall, he hopes to excel in TTs and get a result at the U23 Paris-Roubaix.

    http://www.directvelo.com/actualite/49410/jaap-de-jong-un-petit-reve-d-etre-ici (FR)
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    De Jong, until recently a trainee chef, claims that the only French words he knew on arrival were "bonjour" and "bon appétit". He was surprised at how seriously his French teammates took their dietary intake: "I get the impression it's an obsession here", he says.
    In which way does he mean this?
    Do they weigh every piece of bread they're eating, or are they gourmets who enjoy meals that are far from the usual 'omelet, pasta, chicken' staple of cyclists?
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    In which way does he mean this?
    Do they weigh every piece of bread they're eating, or are they gourmets who enjoy meals that are far from the usual 'omelet, pasta, chicken' staple of cyclists?

    The former. A bit worrying, really. :(
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    The former. A bit worrying, really. :(
    Yes. They're French, goddammit! :(
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    A brief round-up of various tidbits from what is still the most interesting U23 beat in European racing. I am, of course, talking about France.

    La Durtorccha

    Last weekend saw the climbers' classic La Durtorccha, which takes place in the Puy de Dôme area, and U23 hotshot Nans Peters of Chambéry CF upset Team Pro Immo Nicolas Roux on the latter's home turf.

    With what might have been a touch of false modesty Peters, who's expected to turn pro later this year with #ag2r, said that he didn't want to leave the amateur peloton without a big win at senior level.

    Peters is a rouleur but still managed to pull off that win by going solo, crossing the line with over a minute's advantage on a small group. The sprint for second went to Pro Immo's Sylvain Georges who's now in his second season at the local team since returning from his #ag2r doping suspension.

    La Bernaudeau Junior

    Strictly speaking, the #direct boss' titular race is sub-U23 but it deserves a special mention for its importance in the season of many a youngster. At 130km, it's a tough test for any aspiring youth, and there was another trophy at the finish for the Turgis family cabinet.

    Echoes has been banging on about the three brothers for a few seasons already and Tanguy is the youngest at 17. So he was the winner in the Vendée out of a field that included Richmond Worlds runner-up Clément Bétouigt-Suire (6th).

    Culled from a few bits and pieces on directvelo.com
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    this starts in 2 days!
    I just did a reconnaissance of the local laps of the 2nd day and damn it'll be hard
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    I just did a reconnaissance of the local laps of the 2nd day and damn it'll be hard
    Bonne chance Michiel! :cool
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    Mens U23 Nations Cup

    Thought I'd try and keep track of the results over here.

    Calendar of Events 2016
    Race Date Category
    Gent-Wevelgem/Kattekoers 27th March 1.NC
    Ronde van Vlaanderen Beloften 9th April 1.NC
    ZLM Roompot Tour 15th-16th April 2.NC
    Course de la Paix 3rd to 5th June 2.NC
    Coppa dei Laghi - Trofeo Almar 31st July 1.NC
    Tour de L'Avenir 20th to 27th August 2.NC

    Results so far....
    Gent-Wevelgem / Kattekoers

    Pedersen on a rich vein of form. I tweeted this one, I'll spare you the details suffice to say I was a tad happy.

    https://twitter.com/ArmandIDK/status/714624144139091968

    All 7 races happened on the same day which produced this very cool podium



    Ronde Van Vlaanderen Beloften


    Super win by Slovenia's David Per who'd just missed the podium at Kattekoers


    ZLM Roompot Tour
    3 stages over 2 days. Kicks off this morning with a TTT - 23km around Tholen.
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    ZLM Roompot Tour

    Echelons ahoy!!
    I LOVE this race.
    It's well covered for social media and there will be a TV highlights package via Omroep Zeeland Sport iirc

    Website
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    Stage 1, TTT, 23km
    Technical, pan flat and windy


    Results (Top 3)
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    Place Team Time
    1 Norway 27:46
    2 France 27:53
    3 Denmark 27:59
    Full results here

    Norway win the TTT, Amund Jansen Grondahl wears the leaders jersey
    https://twitter.com/omroepzldsport/status/720911254450282496

    The top three were the only teams under 28mins. GB team was expected to challenge, but unfortunately Cullaigh fell on the course, hope he's OK. The Danes lost Mads Pedersen early on...
    https://twitter.com/MadsWurtz/status/720910670364065792

    Video for TTT


    Stage 2, Kamperland to Zierikzee, 124k
    Kicks off at 16.00 CET

    Neeltje-Jans!! I don't think I need to say anything more  :cool

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    ZLM Roompot Tour

    Stage 2, Kamperland to Zierikzee, 124k
    Oh my what a stage. Wet, windy and chaotic. Peloton split into pieces and reforming all the time. Constant attacks as the wind veered direction. Hard, attritional racing and the crashes to go with it. Team Norway never looked in real trouble and protected their leader all the way. It all came together for a bunch sprint at the end. Sounded like a nasty crash going into the final corner at 200m, there was a rider down for a long time and I'm not sure who that was.



    Sprint take  by Fabio Jakobsen from the Netherlands from Simone Consonni of Italy and Ivan Garcia Cortina of Spain.

    Lead still held by Amund Grundhal


    Not sure why there is no 6th place ??

    19 x DNF (incl Mads Pedersen)  and 2 x DNS  :(

    Images from Race Facebook

    Stage 3, Goes to Goes, 177.2k



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    Video and write up from stage 2... looked a yuck day on a bike

    https://twitter.com/omroepzldsport/status/721074791097233410
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    U23 Liège - Bastogne - Liège
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