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« Reply #120 on: August 12, 2013, 16:19 »
If I remember correctly the calves' blood isn't injected into the bloodstream, but into the muscle tissue.

Doesn't make it much less dodgy in my opinion though.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #121 on: August 12, 2013, 16:39 »
    If I remember correctly the calves' blood isn't injected into the bloodstream, but into the muscle tissue.

    Doesn't make it much less dodgy in my opinion though.

    but your own blood injected into tendons , which is a treatment for tendon issues is not allowed
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #122 on: August 12, 2013, 21:12 »
    I never said it made sense that injecting calves' blood is allowed (if it is).

    It's a practice that, while not strictly forbidden by the current rules, I consider very shady at the least. If someone is ready to do stuff like that, he probably won't say no to forbidden stuff.
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    « Reply #123 on: August 20, 2013, 11:02 »
    An inside look at Jamaican track's drug-testing woes





    just shocking how little testing is done , good read from the women involved at the start , now not
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    « Reply #124 on: August 21, 2013, 11:15 »
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-08/21/c_132649345.htm

    Eight athletes caught doping ahead of China's national games
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #125 on: August 22, 2013, 10:30 »
    Usain Bolt, the fastest man in the world, may be in doubt for the next Olympic Games unless his nation gets its act together on its anti-doping measures.
    The World Anti-Doping Agency last night warned Jamaica it risked expulsion from major competitions if it failed to address failings highlighted by a former senior employee.
    WADA director-general David Howman urged the island's government to investigate claims by the former executive director of the Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission that its drugs-testing program was completely inadequate.


    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/doping-disaster-shadow-hangs-over-jamaicas-participation-in-next-olympics-20130822-2scns.html#ixzz2cglR6Git
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    « Reply #127 on: September 12, 2013, 10:00 »


    So who should pay if a team or club is found guilty of systematic doping by investigations such as what ASADA has carried out into the AFL and NRL? ''I don't think only the athletes,'' Johnson said on Wednesday. ''The people behind it should also be punished - the management and staff.''

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/johnson-sticks-to-slow-lane-in-race-to-leave-a-cleaner-legacy-20130911-2tktp.html#ixzz2efR30k2H
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #129 on: September 30, 2013, 10:58 »
    http://www.lemonde.fr/a-la-une/article/2013/09/26/usain-bolt-je-ne-me-fixe-aucune-limite_3485447_3208.html

    some interesting topics are brought up there, and some "interesting" answers by Bolt...
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #130 on: September 30, 2013, 23:13 »
    My "School Room French" just isn't cutting it...

    Saw this yesterday and wondered if there was a translation...

    Picked up some bits and pieces from Twitter...seems to be denying everything, even things that must be true...

    Not surprised...

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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #132 on: October 04, 2013, 00:19 »
    The Jamaica Athletics  Association really laying down the law and sending out a message with a public warning

    http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=48375
    Picked up on this elsewhere and came here.  This is exactly the state of play right now.  Even if inept and corrupt officials of the home Federation fail to be effective, even when handed the evidence on a plate, these guys are still so endemically self-serving there is not a chance of them giving a punishment that is close to what is needed.

    This really does make you want to never watch an Olympic Games again. It is so like - "let's give the East German Athletics Federation the powers of hearing and judgement on doping violations in the 70's and 80's, I am sure they can be trusted". 

    Sadly I don't think BC were any different hearing the Hayles or Winn cases.
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    « Reply #133 on: October 14, 2013, 13:54 »
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #135 on: October 31, 2013, 05:34 »
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #138 on: November 13, 2013, 14:33 »
    http://www.insidethegames.biz/sports/summer/athletics/1016945-exclusive-jamaican-critics-are-uninformed-claims-fennell-as-anti-programme-deemed-compliant

    Who would have thought   :?

    Jamaica passes inspection. Way to go WADA, Kenyan will be next

    Move along people nothing to see here
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    « Reply #139 on: November 13, 2013, 15:38 »
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #140 on: November 15, 2013, 14:24 »
    Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce: Jamaica sprinter may refuse to run

    Aaah no.. Shelley that isn't the way it works around here.

    To be totally honest, I am completely devoid of any faith in the Jamaican athletes, everything just reeks of a doping programme going on there and basically a do what you like kind of vibe.

    The athletes will slowly learn that this is not the way to deal with doping accusations. At least that is what I hope, athletics is still very much a latecomer to the fight against doping and I hope that the people high up do not get too intimidated as there is such a gold mine to uncover.. in Jamaica, Russia and elsewhere.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #141 on: November 15, 2013, 15:58 »
    Interestingly, SAFP never says outright that she won't run herself.
    Some sneaky word-twisting there, most likely asking her an innocent-sounding question and then using her answer in the way that ensures the biggest possible hullabaloo.

    That being said, her viewpoint still is stupid.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #142 on: November 15, 2013, 16:10 »
    I don't know its not like the bbc to search for a doping story when there isn't one, as far as Jamaica goes anyway.

    Anyway, SAFP served a ban. It was only 6 months. Blake also served a ban once. These people are immune to doping accusations in the media. I wonder how their substances compare to the clenbuterol Contador tested positive for in terms of performance enhancement.
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    « Reply #143 on: November 19, 2013, 07:27 »
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/drugsinsport/10458454/IOC-to-act-after-new-testing-methods-reveal-hundreds-of-positive-results.html

    100's  ha ha , the best bit is the news is out and the approx numbers are known, so we must have a lot of positives
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #144 on: November 19, 2013, 10:49 »
    Fun. I wish they'd wait until the testing is done and just release the list of names rather than teasing like this, though.
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    « Reply #145 on: November 21, 2013, 14:41 »
    RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's Mohamed Shaween, who won men's 1500m gold at the 2010 Asian Games, has been given a three-year ban for violating anti-doping regulations, the Saudi Arabian Anti-Doping Committee (SAADC) said.The SAADC said in a statement on its website (www.saadc.org) that abnormalities were detected in his biological passport.It also said that long-distance runner Hussain Al-Hamdah, who was part of Saudi Arabia's team at the London Olympic Games last year, was banned for two and a half years for the same offence.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #148 on: November 23, 2013, 15:34 »
    Saw that on the news just now, very surprising. I thought they had just passed their WADA inspection with flying colours!
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #149 on: November 23, 2013, 19:28 »
    I am sure a bit of concerted digging, and all of Jamaican athletics will fall like flies.

    The only question is how much do the IOC, WADA etc want to clean Athletics up. They have acquitted themselves reasonably well so far, without being overly convincing. It is very obvious there is something seriously wrong in Jamaican athletics, and so buckling down will surely reap the rewards.

    The ball is in your court.
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