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Re: Athletics
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2012, 16:07 »
What did Jones test positive for?
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #31 on: October 23, 2012, 22:31 »
    What did Jones test positive for?

    Lying

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    « Reply #32 on: October 24, 2012, 15:51 »
    Yes, the whole story of who else in that race was positive that day in Korea and why only Johnson was busted is one that has never really come out.  That is what makes the current Armstrong case so vital.  McQuaid and others have backed Armstrong to the hilt.

    ESPN's 30 for 30 series now on Youtube. This is a must watch documentary! Don Caitlin's remarks are ominous.

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    « Reply #33 on: October 26, 2012, 19:08 »
    Idiocy knows no bounds in the battle for clean sports.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lance-armstrongs-fall-a-case-for-allowing-performance-enhancement/2012/10/26/6f7cccf0-1d41-11e2-b647-bb1668e64058_story.html
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    Whether Armstrong cheated is not the core consideration. Rather, his case shows that enhancement is here to stay. If everyone’s enhancing, it’s a reality that we should embrace.
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    Past a certain age, athletes should be allowed to use whatever enhancements they think appropriate based on objective data. Providing reliable information about the full range of technologies should become the new mission of a (renamed) Anti-Doping Agency, one not driven by an anti-enhancement agenda. It wouldn’t have to be a free-for-all: Age limits and other appropriate regulations could limit dangerous enhancements for non-professionals;  ??? those that are too risky could be restricted or, yes, banned.
    Yeah, good luck with the bolded part.

    The genius behind this article has a Ph.D, so he must be right.  ::)

    Brad Allenby, the Lincoln professor of ethics and engineering at Arizona State University, is a co-author of “The Techno-Human Condition.”


    braden.allenby@asu.edu

    He's wrong on so many points, I just may run out of pixels.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #34 on: October 26, 2012, 21:17 »
    Idiocy knows no bounds in the battle for clean sports.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lance-armstrongs-fall-a-case-for-allowing-performance-enhancement/2012/10/26/6f7cccf0-1d41-11e2-b647-bb1668e64058_story.htmlYeah, good luck with the bolded part.

    The genius behind this article has a Ph.D, so he must be right.  ::)

    Brad Allenby, the Lincoln professor of ethics and engineering at Arizona State University, is a co-author of “The Techno-Human Condition.”


    braden.allenby@asu.edu

    He's wrong on so many points, I just may run out of pixels.

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    Thankfully, the Lincoln Professor of twitology is not my core consideration.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #36 on: February 15, 2013, 07:56 »
    Doping allegations in Kenyan athletics

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    When it comes to long distance running Kenyans often lead the pack, but have some of them been getting an illegal helping hand? Doping allegations have been made in the past but now one of Kenya's most successful athletes has spoken out on the issue. Moses Kiptanui is a former 3000 metre steeplechase world champion. He spoke to the BBC's John Nene.
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    « Reply #37 on: February 15, 2013, 08:06 »
    Not the first time Kiptanui is speaking out. Was listening to that on the radio yesterday. Having a few doubts about Kiptanui. He alleged some drug usage, but not widespread, in 2003 post Lagat and a one other's positives. This was just prior to him becoming coach of Kenya. Then during his time as coach, it was all silent. And now, he says that some officials coerced a runner (forgetting who now, it's there) into not speaking.

    Disgruntled coach? Real claims? Don't know tbh.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #38 on: February 28, 2013, 23:22 »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/21622949



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    But the Swede told BBC Radio 5 live that he believes the global anti-doping system was "starting to work".

    He added: "You can only push Wada (the World Anti-Doping Agency) and all of the agencies who are dealing with doping to do more.

    "Every time we find there's another cheater on the scene it's tragic for the sport but we have to look forward and do what we do.

    "It's sad that it happened but it's good that it's come to light, so we can see that you can't cheat anymore, the system is actually working."
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #39 on: April 16, 2013, 16:11 »


    U.S. Track's Unconventional Physician
    Dr. Brown treats runners for a disorder not known to afflict them. His patients' medal count: 15 Olympic golds


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    Tyroid doping - gets worse the more you look

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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #40 on: April 25, 2013, 10:23 »
    A look back at the history of doping on track and field, 30 years since the first World Athletics Championships in Helsinki.  From an English perspective on 5-live bbc

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01s0qbt/5_live_Sport_5_live_Track_and_Field_The_Record_Fakers/ starts after 4.45 min
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #41 on: April 25, 2013, 13:07 »
    I dont reckon any doping performance in history touches this.     Marita Koch taking ultra doped Russian to the cleaners and some.  ;)


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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #42 on: April 25, 2013, 13:40 »
    aye she gets a lot of mentions above and is interviewed her and Heike Drechsler are the 2 highest profile athletes who have not admitted even though the secret police doping files show they were on the gear from a very young age.



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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #43 on: May 22, 2013, 08:58 »
    The International Association of Athletics Federation (IAAF) has obviously started taking to heart some of the recent stinging criticism from talking heads like David Howman of WADA.

    El Pais and As reported last night that Marta Dominguez, teflonic veteran of the Galgo doping scandal and by open secret a Fuentes client, is now formally under investigation for bio-passport irregularities, specifically a sky-high haemoglobin count in 2009, at the time when she took World Championship gold in the 3,000m steeplechase.

    You can almost hear the stuffy old men saying, "let's throw an easy one under the bus". Perhaps more interesting is that Dominguez' lawyers have already engaged an expert witness, Douwe De Boer, the man who famously prepared this memo for a certain Contador:


    http://www.velonation.com/Photos/Photo-Album/mmid/614/mediaid/574.aspx

    Whole story in ES at:

    http://masdeporte.as.com/masdeporte/2013/05/22/atletismo/1369175392_892938.html

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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #44 on: May 22, 2013, 12:55 »
    Also one of the east German Dr has been found working for redbull and Lindsay Vonn.

    Mew tweeted something hopefully she will add a link.
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    « Reply #45 on: May 22, 2013, 12:59 »
    Also one of the east German Dr has been found working for redbull and Lindsay Vonn.

    Mew tweeted something hopefully she will add a link.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/red-flag-lindsey-vonn-red-bull-east-german-drug-doctor-article-1.1349830

    Here is the report
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #46 on: May 22, 2013, 14:50 »
    OT: I was watching a documentary a couple months ago, sorry don't recall the name, but towards the end a guy who worked in the lab testing the athletes said he re-tested about 200+ athletes' samples from the 1984 Olympics... well, no surprise to me, all 200+ tested positive for one or more banned substances. All this after many years... just to prove what I've always argued:
    the Olympics are when doping is at its highest point in sports. Don't anyone tell me all the athletes, regardless of which country they represent, are 100% clean during Summer or Winter Olympics.

    Utopia
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #47 on: June 17, 2013, 15:46 »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/22919193
    There catching them on the islands, Veronica Campbell-Brown 200m WC gets 2yr ban and her compatriot Dominique Blake gets 6yr ban for a 2nd offence.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #48 on: June 18, 2013, 21:54 »
    I dont reckon any doping performance in history touches this.     Marita Koch taking ultra doped Russian to the cleaners and some. 

    url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O D  ....   etc

    That was most enjoyable - not.  So that was within 6 seconds of the start of the Olympic final Koch had caught and passed the girl in the lane outside her.  What must the heats have been like ! 
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #49 on: June 18, 2013, 22:01 »
    Well off topic - I was working in the garage the other day and put some newspapers out to do some painting and there was an article on Denise van Outen in it.  "OK so now you are a mum what are you going to explain away doing topless shots and being a porn model and doing exploitative TV programs ? (not quite put like that, but that was the gist.) 

    "Oh well I will explain to her that at that time everyone was doing that sort of thing."

    Well if they were I never saw any of the girls I know doing it.  It is just the same lying, hypocrisy as Lance and the other drug thieves would use.  Everyone is doing it so it has to be ok. that is some strange World these people live in. You could imagine that  Koch has zero qualms about what she did.   "I was on the gear, so what?   Everyone was doing it when they weren't doing topless shots or robbing banks.  "  There is no body lying in a pool of blood so there must be no victim.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #52 on: June 19, 2013, 12:34 »
    seems the lid is about to come off one of the dirties sports

    According to someone I know - the female old Eastern Europeans especially the russia´s are at it again big time - this person knoticed it about 18 months before the London Olympics.

    said there should be born men and mens sports not womens  :niceday

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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #54 on: July 11, 2013, 11:34 »
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/10168329/Drug-scandal-rocks-Turkey-who-could-be-thrown-out-of-World-Championships-as-dozens-of-athletes-test-positive.html

     as many as 30 turkish T&F athletes positive including W 1,500M Olympic Champion from london

    since BALCO nothing has changed in athletics, much like cycling post festina.
    i'd draw another parallel, not only is T&F dirty, it's as dirty as cycling was in 1999 (my opinion, not based on any evidence) most top level athletes doping including entire national squads
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #55 on: July 11, 2013, 11:46 »
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/10168329/Drug-scandal-rocks-Turkey-who-could-be-thrown-out-of-World-Championships-as-dozens-of-athletes-test-positive.html

     as many as 30 turkish T&F athletes positive including W 1,500M Olympic Champion from london

    since BALCO nothing has changed in athletics, much like cycling post festina.
    i'd draw another parallel, not only is T&F dirty, it's as dirty as cycling was in 1999 (my opinion, not based on any evidence) most top level athletes doping including entire national squads

    Althetics has always been the worse sport 're doping for mind

    It has the full, range power, oxygen and even beta blockers for nerves.

    Much better at hiding for the average person though .
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #56 on: July 14, 2013, 18:47 »
    Tyson Gay has tested positive for a yet-to-be-named banned substance. A drug cheat in track sports is about as surprising as a sunrise, but I am surprised and almost impressed by Gay's initial comments. Sure he's deflecting the blame but if he is not accepting total responsibility for the cause, at least he is accepting responsibility for the result. A refreshing change from what we usually get as first disclosure.

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    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/trackandfield/story/2013/07/14/sp-track-tyson-gay-banned-substance.html
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  • « Last Edit: July 14, 2013, 21:17 by pedaling squares, Reason: Altered thread title to include the Jamaicans »
    "Well don't run with the riders, you twit."

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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #57 on: July 14, 2013, 18:58 »
    Yes, it is refreshing.

    I know absolutely zero about athletics but I do recognise this guy by name at least.

    Seems like there's been quite a few athletics positives lately (particularly in Russia) and didn't they also implement the bio-passport recently?

    Interesting times. Good progress achieved quickly. Apparently not afraid to drop a big name too.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #58 on: July 14, 2013, 19:26 »
    Many runners now being named...Powell, Carter,

    @ gallagherbren: "Athletics in meltdown. Now Asafa Powell confirmed as positive along with Nesta Carter and Sherone Simpson" #Athletics

    more Olympians...I think I heard more Americans as well...we'll see what turns up :O
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #59 on: July 14, 2013, 19:42 »
    Five Jamaicans positive so far.

    Usain Bolts agent says that Bolt is not among them
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