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Re: Athletics
« Reply #721 on: August 25, 2016, 08:55 »
there was another update on the 2008 Olympics weighlifting chart yesterday ;)



the sad thing about this: if the results of those re-tests would have been published earlier on, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, China, Moldavia, Turkey and Ukraine would not have been allowed to participate in the Rio weighligting events, as all of them had reached the number of >2 positives in Beijing & London. In the end those nations went home with 17 medals in Rio
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #723 on: November 04, 2016, 08:21 »
    the Kazakh weightlifters want to keep their medals

    http://www.inform.kz/en/minister-comments-on-decision-of-kazakh-olympic-champions-to-keep-medals_a2964948

    here are photos of Ilya Ilyin by the way:



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    « Reply #724 on: November 14, 2016, 11:53 »
    Hi Race Radio,
    Bit late to the conversation, but have followed the Paula Radcliffe story, and was interested to see that you wrote that (before the story leaked out) that she was using pregnancy as an excuse for the high off-scores? Every other excuse seemed to get wheeled out but not that (none of the dates coincided with when she was pregnant). Just wondering what your source was for this original excuse? Cheers, DHT
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #731 on: February 26, 2017, 08:57 »
    https://twitter.com/sportslaw_uk/status/835760568703332352

    Mo and mainly Salazar have a huge dossier that USADA have sat on for 12 months used transfusions and prescription meds to increase testosterone etc

    USADA still can not work out if it broke the rules

    Fancy bear hake by the way

    Some of the UK press saying Salazar the big bad man made Saint Mo do it and not his fault and endangered Mo health in the process ( well along those lines )
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    « Reply #732 on: February 26, 2017, 18:35 »
    Some of the UK press saying Salazar the big bad man made Saint Mo do it and not his fault and endangered Mo health in the process ( well along those lines )
    I'm, frankly, surprised that they haven't turned on him yet, saying he's a filthy Muslim immigrant who took advantage of UK funding for his doping-fueled career etc.
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    « Reply #733 on: February 26, 2017, 18:50 »
    I'm, frankly, surprised that they haven't turned on him yet, saying he's a filthy Muslim immigrant who took advantage of UK funding for his doping-fueled career etc.
     :S

    Remember the Daily Mail isn't published on a Sunday so what you've said there might be their back page headline tomorrow after todays Sunday Times piece.
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #736 on: December 20, 2017, 12:01 »
    I see Gatlin is under investigation again, and his coach & his agent.
    Needless to say he is shocked and surprised.
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    « Reply #737 on: December 20, 2017, 16:44 »
    I see Gatlin is under investigation again, and his coach & his agent.
    Needless to say he is shocked and surprised.

    He said he's never taken Performance Enhancing Drugs so that's good enough for me.  :lol
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #738 on: April 06, 2018, 11:05 »
    I see Laura Muir to work with Oregon project... surely not such a blatant case of 'if you cant beat 'em...'  but why oh why???
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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #739 on: April 07, 2018, 08:05 »
    As you were folks!  Change of heart from Laura - planned link up now canned

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/43676941

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    Re: Athletics
    « Reply #740 on: September 11, 2018, 23:29 »
    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/trackandfield/steen-schenk-ioc-doping-admission-1.4818769

    Ex-decathlete Dave Steen: IOC owes it to young athletes not to ignore doping admissions.
    Germany's Christian Schenk reveals steroid use in biography 30 years after winning Olympic gold.

    It was almost 30 years ago to the day that Canada's Dave Steen climbed the Olympic medal podium in 1988 in Seoul, winning bronze in the decathlon.

    Steen shared the podium with gold medallist Christian Schenk and his East German teammate Torsten Voss. And while rumblings about rampant steroid use cast a black cloud over the sport in the 1980s, with plenty of eyes trained on East Germany, Steen dipped his head to accept his bronze medal and says he walked away satisfied.
    He was certain he'd been beaten by a drug cheat. Still, Steen, now a 58-year-old father of four and a firefighter in Windsor, Ont., said it was "something I put away a long time ago."

    Three decades later, Schenk recently admitted to doping in his upcoming biography. The news was an emotional blow.

    "I dealt with it, I'm good with it and moved on in life, and then it comes back up again and I go 'Aw man, do I really even want to bother going through this?"' Steen, a native of New Westminster, B.C., told The Canadian Press in a phone interview.

    "To hope it would come out [eventually]? You don't even do that. I know what the truth is for me. But one of the things that has bothered me about this, probably the only thing that's really kind of got to me a little bit, was the IOC stance on this, the statute of limitations. I thought that's an extremely poor message."
    Schenk's admission to taking the banned steroid turinabol won't cost him his gold medal. The International Olympic Committee said in a statement to German media that because of its statute of limitations, it "will not follow up."

    "We welcome the admission and hope it will help clarify the situation and strengthen the fight against doping."

    "At the same time, we hope that Schenk's findings contribute to his own well-being and wish him all the best to cope with his health problems."
    Severe depression

    Article 17 in the World Anti-Doping Agency code states, "No anti-doping rule violation proceeding may be commenced against an Athlete or other Person unless he or she has been notified of the anti-doping rule violation as provided in Article 7, or notification has been reasonably attempted, within ten years from the date the violation is asserted to have occurred."

    Schenk, in the biography, also opens up about battling severe depression.

    His admission of doping isn't all that surprising. In 1990, German magazine Stern reported that documents it had obtained after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 listed numerous East German athletes who had used anabolic steroids for years. It included both Schenk and Voss.

    However, Steen said he doesn't lament any stolen moment.

    "I don't feel as if anything was taken from me, I really don't," he said. "You need to internalize your results and try to figure out how to feel good about doing the best that you can, but still coming up short compared to other people who are cheating. That's a tough thing to do, and it's learned and it takes a little while to get in that head space."

    Steen found satisfaction in bronze. To him it meant he wasn't willing to do "absolutely anything for gold.

    "For me to compete against guys who I know were doing performance-enhancing drugs, a bronze medal sort of seemed appropriate. Yeah, it was a great end to a career, and I was really happy to put it away right there."

    Steen is concerned about his son Jordie however, and the message the IOC is sending other young athletes with big dreams. Jordie, a bronze medallist in wrestling at the Commonwealth Games last March, was beaten out for a spot on the Canada's 2012 London Olympic team by Khetag Pliev, a wrestler who tested positive for steroids in 2015 and received a four-year ban for doping and quit the sport.

    "Jordie's now the national champion, he's starting to get there, and he's in the same sort of boat," Steen said. "He believes in the way that I had competed, and he's trying to fight the good fight, and trying to do it without any drugs. It's hard for me to look at the way the IOC has handled this … that's not the lesson I want my son to learn: 'Lie like crazy, hold on as long as you can, there's a statute of limitations on cheating and lying, and then you'll be OK.' That's just ridiculous."

    The Canadian Olympic Committee wasn't available for comment.

    The Seoul Olympics, of course, was where Ben Johnson went from hero to zero, stripped of his 100-metre gold medal after a positive doping test.
    Unannounced doping control

    The Dubin Inquiry that followed blasted open Canada's own doping can of worms. When Steen took the stand, he testified that the stench of steroids was so prevalent both home and abroad during that time that he'd asked Canadian track officials in January of '88 to test him for banned drugs "anywhere and at any time starting as soon as possible" until the end of his career.

    He made the request in writing to avoid "guilt by association." Athletics Canada, then the Canadian Track and Field Association, replied saying Steen's name would be put into a draw for an out-of-competition testing program that was subject to budgetary approvals. It wouldn't be until 1990, however, that Canada's national sport organizations approved anti-doping policies that included unannounced doping control.

    As positive doping tests over the past dozen or so years have forced officials to rewrite the record books, Steen's wife Andrea (Page), an Olympian in the 400-metre hurdles, reached out to the COC several years ago, hoping someone would take a closer look at the decathlon results.

    "Trying to get something, she would call it justice, for the situation I was in," he said. "Nothing but crickets back from them."

    Now, Steen wonders if there will even be so much as "an asterisk" beside Schenk's name.


    Of GB note - Daley thompson was 4th - with a strapped thigh in the final event.
    http://articles.latimes.com/1988-09-30/sports/sp-3293_1_daley-thompson

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