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Re: General News 2017
« Reply #150 on: November 08, 2017, 22:20 »
Now for some non-cycling ( ;) ) news as FACT makes it into the Paradise Papers.

https://www.elconfidencial.com/economia/paradise-papers/2017-11-08/fernando-alonso-cycling-team-malta_1473384/

Yeah I know, but it's a very slow news day in the world of cycling.
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #151 on: December 01, 2017, 18:44 »
    http://cyclingpro.net/spaziociclismo/altro/uec-si-guarda-alle-nuove-tecnologie-al-vaglio-un-circuito-dedicato-alle-bici-elettriche/

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    " We (the UEC) are at work to create a project that proposes large events dedicated to electric bicycles both for traditional cycling, road cycling, and for off-road / cross-country, which is growing significantly in e-bikes - adds the number one of European cycling - With some technicians we are identifying the different scenarios to start some tests already from next season and then, in a couple of years, to set up a test circuit, which could be called UEC e-Bike European Tour, and a real European championship for e-bikes."

    I can see the financial benefits of this for the e-bike companies, but is there really any sporting need for it. Won't the winner still be the one with the best legs or is there some tactical element to e-bikes that differentiates it from normal bike races?
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #152 on: December 01, 2017, 20:37 »
    http://cyclingpro.net/spaziociclismo/altro/uec-si-guarda-alle-nuove-tecnologie-al-vaglio-un-circuito-dedicato-alle-bici-elettriche/

    I can see the financial benefits of this for the e-bike companies, but is there really any sporting need for it. Won't the winner still be the one with the best legs or is there some tactical element to e-bikes that differentiates it from normal bike races?

    At a theoretical level, it could be intriguing, especially if the boost were very significant but very limited (and of course equal for all) in terms of the tactical decision.  If every rider has the capacity for one, and only one, guaranteed devastating burst per race, when and alongside whom to do it would be fascinating to watch (although bunch sprints with turbo boosters would make Scheldeprijs look like a chess match in terms of safety).

    But in reality I would hate to see such a thing happen as anything other than an occasional novelty event.  And even worse if it ever takes off to the extent that a young rider needs to choose at some stage whether to dedicate him (or her-) self to the electric racing circuit or a "proper" road racing career.
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #153 on: December 01, 2017, 22:52 »
    http://cyclingpro.net/spaziociclismo/altro/uec-si-guarda-alle-nuove-tecnologie-al-vaglio-un-circuito-dedicato-alle-bici-elettriche/

    I can see the financial benefits of this for the e-bike companies, but is there really any sporting need for it. Won't the winner still be the one with the best legs or is there some tactical element to e-bikes that differentiates it from normal bike races?
    We don't know yet if there is some tactical element to e-bikes. There haven't been any e-bike races so far.
    None where everyone was on e-bikes, at least. :shh

    I think it's worth a try. I also think that the 'unassisted' bike racing will always be the more prestigious 'version'.[1]
    Either it'll develop into a discipline of its own, like MTB, 'cross, track, or BMX, which still has a significant crossover to (and from) road racing ... or it'll eventually die out respectively become something like singlespeed MTB or folding bike races - a gimmick-like discipline that has a place for a few commendable die-hard fans, but is otherwise mostly ignored.
     1. unless multiple, massive cases of 'motor doping' are uncovered
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #154 on: December 01, 2017, 22:57 »
    We don't know yet if there is some tactical element to e-bikes. There haven't been any e-bike races so far.
    None where everyone was on e-bikes, at least. :shh

    I think it's worth a try. I also think that the 'unassisted' bike racing will always be the more prestigious 'version'.[1]
    Either it'll develop into a discipline of its own, like MTB, 'cross, track, or BMX, which still has a significant crossover to (and from) road racing ... or it'll eventually die out respectively become something like singlespeed MTB or folding bike races - a gimmick-like discipline that has a place for a few commendable die-hard fans, but is otherwise mostly ignored.
     1. unless multiple, massive cases of 'motor doping' are uncovered

    Agreed. It’ll probably happen for a while before it’s Cancell(ara)ed.
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #155 on: December 02, 2017, 04:11 »
    Wouldn't e bicycle races just be the equivalent of sh*tty motorcycle racing? Or maybe golf buggy racing
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #156 on: December 02, 2017, 05:24 »
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #157 on: December 05, 2017, 08:40 »


    http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&tp=n&cod=107203

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    The UCI, Peter Sagan and BORA - hansgrohe have decided to put an end to the legal dispute and therefore there will not be the planned debate in Hadrian today.

    Having examined the documents submitted to the TAS, including the films that were not available at the time the competition jury had disqualified Peter Sagan, the parties agreed, however, that the incident should be read as an unfortunate unintentional accident and that the UCI Commissioners they had made their decision in the best possible conditions at the time. On this basis, the parties agreed not to pursue court proceedings and to focus on the positive steps that can be taken in the future.

    The new president of the UCI, David Lappartient explains: "These proceedings have shown how important and arduous the work of the UCI Commissioners is. Starting from next season, the UCI intends to hire a "Support Commissioner" with an important video experience to assist the group of Commissioners in the main events of the UCI World Tour"

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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #158 on: December 22, 2017, 11:35 »


    https://saintpiranprocycling.com/

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    SAINT PIRAN IS CORNWALL'S FIRST ELITE CYCLING TEAM GIVING TALENTED RIDERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PERFORM ON A NATIONAL STAGE.

    32 YEAR OLD CORNISHMAN STEVE LAMPIER, ONE OF THE UK’S MOST SUCCESSFUL PRO CYCLISTS, IS THE OWNER OF THE NEWLY FORMED SAINT PIRAN. THE TEAM AIM TO ACHIEVE PRO CONTINENTAL STATUS WITHIN 5 YEARS, THIS WILL SEE SAINT PIRAN COMPETING IN THE BIGGEST RACES ALL OVER THE WORLD.

    AS WELL AS CAREFULLY SELECTING A CORE OF TALENTED CORNISH RIDERS, SAINT PIRAN HAS AGREED CONTRACTS WITH 5 OUTSTANDING PROS FROM ACROSS THE UK, CREATING A FORMIDABLE SQUAD.

    SAINT PIRAN HAVE A BUSY AND EXCITING CALENDAR IN 2018. THE TEAM WILL COMPETE IN THE UK'S MOST PRESTIGIOUS PRO RACES INCLUDING THE HSBC SPRING CUP, HSBC GRAND PRIX SERIES AND HSBC ELITE CIRCUIT SERIES. AS WELL AS THIS, SAINT PIRAN WILL RACE IN A NUMBER OF NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL UCI EVENTS, THIS WILL SEE THE TEAM COMPETING AGAINST SOME OF THE WORLD'S BEST PRO RIDERS. THE PROGRAMME WILL BE SUFFICIENTLY VARIED, WITH A MIXTURE OF SINGLE DAY EVENTS AND SEVEN DAY TOURS. SAINT PIRAN WILL KICK OFF 2018 WITH A TRIP TO BELGIUM IN EARLY MARCH. THE TEAM WILL RACE THREE ELITE KERMESSES BEFORE RETURNING HOME FOR THE START OF THE UK SEASON.

    Along with Lampier they have signed Joe Evans #madison and Sam Williams #onepro
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #159 on: December 23, 2017, 06:07 »


    https://saintpiranprocycling.com/

    Along with Lampier they have signed Joe Evans #madison and Sam Williams #onepro
    Admirable transparency on their website, listing when sponsorships were secured, when the bike frames (Colnago) for 2018 arrived ... also when the crowdfunding project started.

    Wait, crowdfunding? "ProConti within five years"? I'm skeptical. Unless he can get the Duke of Cornwall[1] to throw his support behind, I'm very skeptical.
     1. better known as Charles, Prince of Wales
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #160 on: December 23, 2017, 12:11 »
    no mention whatsoever of previous owner / leader?

    Personally i hope it works out well for Steve Lampier, but it will be really tough to hit that objective
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    Re: General News 2017
    « Reply #161 on: December 23, 2017, 15:02 »
    Admirable transparency on their website, listing when sponsorships were secured, when the bike frames (Colnago) for 2018 arrived ... also when the crowdfunding project started.

    Wait, crowdfunding? "ProConti within five years"? I'm skeptical. Unless he can get the Duke of Cornwall[1] to throw his support behind, I'm very skeptical.
     1. better known as Charles, Prince of Wales

    Yes...The press release seems to follow the pattern of new UK teams eg, NFTO, One Pro, whereby they grossly exaggerate the quality of their signings and their aspirations for growth. “One of the UK’s most successful cyclists” or “ 5 outstanding pros from across the UK” suggests WT or at least PC riders, rather than guys who have spent their life in the 3rd Division. Also references to the best riders and races in the World, as if this was or will be a regular occurrence, as opposed to the reality of once or twice a year, or even less if they are not UCI registered. Maybe the target audience is potential sponsors with limited knowledge of the finer details of the sport.
    That said I wish them luck as there does seem to be some significant change in the UK domestic scene and not all of it good for riders.
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