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https://twitter.com/CLICKDEPORTIVO1/status/922538134935621633

Hopefully some video of the finish will turn up so we can see if he copies his namesake's victory celebration.



Guama was the first of the non-break finishers and he picked up a little time on other GC contenders.
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    The other news is that Rodas crashed. Bad roads are a perennial problem for this race.

    https://twitter.com/CDAG_gt/status/922538999855616002

    Doesn't look too bad from those pictures, but where in the race did it occur? We'll have to wait to see if he lost any time because of it.
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    http://www.prensalibre.com/deportes/vuelta-a-guatemala/vuelta-a-guatemala-2017---caidas-golpes-y-pinchazos-el-saldo-de-la-primera-etapa

    Yesterday's crash happened very near the finish, so no time losses after all ....... just sore bodies. It took Padilla over half an hour to get across the line, but he's been getting involved today in the meta volantes, so it looks like he got lucky.



    4m26 for the finale. No time for celebrations, he only just caught the Mexican.
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    https://twitter.com/Lared1061/status/922879257038213120

    Never mind race radios David, it's time to ban chequered flag waving drongos.

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    Never mind race radios David, it's time to ban chequered flag waving drongos.
    Hear, hear!

    I only recognise one name in the three teams from Mexico and Colombia, and Scott Teleuno aren't in the same league as Nestle, so the chances of a home win (the first since 2000) must be quite high.
    There was Nery Velasquez in 2009 ... who however tested positive for boldenon during the race and was eventually stripped of the win and banned for life.[1] :shh
     1. however, the UCI only nullified his points in September of the following year, until then his result was enough to qualify Guatemala to the Worlds
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    Vuelta Ciclista a Venezuela 27th October - 5th November





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    Stage 10



    Venezuela outdoing itself this year....
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    http://www.esciclismo.com/ampliada.asp?Id=44367

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    In terms of participation, the Vuelta will include teams from Colombia and Cuba, as well as the local teams Lotería del Táchira, Kino Táchira, JHS Aves, Fundación Ángel Pulgar, Mérida, Banco Bicentenario de Yaracuy, Barinas, Zulia, Trujillo y Carabobo. The organizers do not rule out the participation of a club from the states of Anzoátegui or Nueva Esparta.
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    https://twitter.com/Jovalle_PL/status/923213717533274113

    They've put branches on the road to mark potholes. What could possibly go wrong? :S

    Never the less there are plenty of punctures already today.

    https://twitter.com/holivaPL/status/923214600128094208
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    https://twitter.com/CLICKDEPORTIVO1/status/923252978215276544

    ....and to keep it in the family, his brother takes over the leadership of the race.



    TTT is on later. Well, I hope it is. There was some tweetage about two people dying on the course today (in a road accident presumably).
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    Vuelta Ciclista a Venezuela 27th October - 5th November

    Venezuela outdoing itself this year....
    There's nothing quite like a Vuelta a Venezuela stage profile ... :o :S :lol :-x
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    1st Decorabaños 36m18
    2nd Hino One La Red +1m34
    3rd Team Ecuador +1m59
    4th Global Cycling +2m13
    5th Primero Villa de Leiva Sora +2m33

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    With a 43.6km TT still to come, it's all over already I'd say. Neither Ajpacaja or Jiatz can TT so unless they attack their team leader today or on the later stages at altitiude, Rodas should have it in the bag.
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    https://twitter.com/Jovalle_PL/status/923617291039854594

    I swear he's gonna hit a cyclist on the head with that flag before this race is over. That or get it tangled up in a front wheel.

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    I swear he's gonna hit a cyclist on the head with that flag before this race is over. That or get it tangled up in a front wheel.
    :o
    Jeesh, that's downright dangerous!
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    Slight change to the result. They declared it a tie for first place.

    https://twitter.com/fgciclismoguate/status/923665302243741696
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    Start list:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BavPzCCnghG/

    Just eleven teams. JB Ropa the only foreign entrant.
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    Slight change to the result. They declared it a tie for first place.
    In my opinion, calling this a dead heat is the right decision. :cool
    It's silly to, after hundreds of kilometres, declare one rider the winner and the other a loser on what isn't more than millimetres.

    I also hope that the photo in that tweet isn't the finish line camera shot! That would just be crazily amateurish. If you don't have (or can't get) a proper photo-finish camera, there are ways to make one out of duct tape and improvisation. ;)

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    Just eleven teams. JB Ropa the only foreign entrant.
    Strictly speaking, this would be grounds for refusal of UCI categorisation. :-x
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    I also hope that the photo in that tweet isn't the finish line camera shot! That would just be crazily amateurish. If you don't have (or can't get) a proper photo-finish camera, there are ways to make one out of duct tape and improvisation. ;)

    If you can speak Spanish this might explain it.

    https://twitter.com/Jovalle_PL/status/923691214305710081

    I don't, but the reply to the tweet suggests there was no proper photo finish "He says without saying so, the Commissioner: in the absence of 'photo finish' we get does not wet hands. Technology is urgently needed. We must invest in that."

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    It's silly to, after hundreds of kilometres, declare one rider the winner and the other a loser on what isn't more than millimetres.

    Can't say I agree with this. As long as the expense isn't too prohibitive, surely knowing who won even if it is by one pixel is the most important thing.
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    They've got the duct tape out. This is serious business now.
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    Can't say I agree with this. As long as the expense isn't too prohibitive, surely knowing who won even if it is by one pixel is the most important thing.
    Technology is, in general, great; but technology shouldn't be unquestioningly used everywhere it's possible. It should definitely be used to assist the humans making the decisions - but it shouldn't make the decisions for them.

    You mention the expense as one reason.

    Another is immediacy: The German Bundesliga has introduced video assistance where a referee sitting somewhere off-stadium in front of a number of monitors, with slow-motion etc. at his disposal, can assist the referee on the pitch. The original idea was to only get involved if the ref made a clear error; but very quickly, this changed. The video assistant now double-checks virtually every penalty call, often for (what feels like) several minutes. I was in the stadium on Sunday when that happened and experienced it first-hand; it's just cruel. To the players, to the fans, even to the referee him[1]self. It feels to me like this technology is increasingly depriving the actual referee of his right of decision, and I hope they rein in video assistance again.

    Finally, I want to mention scale. With today's technology, you can measure time differences of less than 0.001 second. In luge & bobsleigh competitions, the difference between gold and silver medals are sometimes not more than a few thousandths of a second - an amount of time that no human can consciously measure. Since the total time in bobsleigh & luge is less than 4 minutes (four runs of ~45-50 seconds), I don't have a problem with that: It's a short time, but it's not that minuscule - 0.023 seconds would be 0.01% of an overall time of 3'50".
    To differentiate between two riders after a 5+-hour cycling race by millimetres is just overkill: a 1-centimetre difference is, at 60 km/h, 0.0006 seconds. Rounded up that's one thousandth of a second, the smallest-possible time difference between two riders in a time trial. If they're closer than that, they get the same time (theoretically even both winning or medalling). One millimetre equals 6 hundreds of a thousandth of a second; that is virtually nothing. On a 200-km stage, a millimetre is 0.00000005%, or, put another way, 0.0000005% of the 0.01% that are a not-so-small time difference in bobsleigh & luge.
    This would be a dead heat without incredibly sophisticated technology; and since not every bike race everywhere has this incredibly sophisticated technology (exhibit A: the Vuelta a Guatemala who don't even have a finish line camera, much less one with HD), we shouldn't have to differentiate by such virtual nothingnesses.

    I can understand wanting to find a winner. But when the difference between two riders, after a 200-km stage, is down to which rider's tyre is less worn-down, you have two winners. Simple as that.
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    https://twitter.com/NuestroDiario/status/924710859125022721

    A more restrained flag waver has been introduced? Let's hope so.

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    https://twitter.com/EU_Xela/status/925063770434621440

    Four stage wins for the Ecuadorians and they lead the KoM and Meta Volantes competitions.

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    http://fronteradigital.com.ve/jose-rujano-deja-ciclismo-incursionar-la-politica/

    Rujano seems to be sticking to his retirement plan. He hasn't trained since January and has decided to enter the murky world of Venezuelan politics as a mayoral candidate for his home town of Santa Cruz de Mora.

    However it can't be said that he's entering it with the intention of cleaning it up, as the party he's linked with (PSUV) is the party of President Maduro.

    https://twitter.com/JEHYSONGUZMAN/status/917399786915074056

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