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Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
« Reply #60 on: May 08, 2018, 21:51 »
Year 2 Month 4 April 2nd to May 6th

A good month for many of our popular picks: hype is not always wrong

BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      308 (2nd on GC and Mts classification, 3rd in Pts classification, a stage win and another podium, all in Romandie) for 30 teams
MAS NICOLAU Enric      157 (6th in Itzulia, with stage win and other placements) for 27 teams
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      136 (GC and stage wins in Asturias) for 12
O'CONNOR Ben      90   (Stage win and 7th in GC in Tour of the Alps) 3 teams
VENDRAME Andrea      90   (6th in Circuit de la Sarthe, 3rd in Camembert) 8
PADUN Mark      88 (2nd in Itzulia mountains category, stage win and 12 in GC in Tour of the Alps) 1
MCNULTY Brandon      78   6
SCHACHMANN Maximilian      66   23
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      66   1
HAGEN Carl Fredrik      65   1
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      64   16

Probably because the biggest scorer is almost universal, rather than only on a couple of teams, scores are considerably higher here than on the game currently in Year 3.

1   Vladimir   993 (Bernal, Mas, Carapaz, Schachmann, Martinez)
2   Cordi333   912 (Bernal, Mas, Carapaz, McNulty, Schachmann)
3   Squire   906 (Bernal, Mas, Carapaz, Vendrame, Martinez)
4   Jakob747   905  (Bernal, Mas, Carapaz, Pdun, Schachmann)
5   AmisVelo   841
5   ThePirate81   841
7   ValvPiti   836
8   18Valve   831
9   Torcio86   808
10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   807
11   Flo   771
12   Laarsland   757
13   Kazistuta   727
14   Hakkie2   725
14   HugoKoblet   725
16   GPBlanco   717
17   Murrjt   714
18   Joelsim   711
19   TheAsian   697
19   Togo95   697
21   Del1962   676
22   Skidmark   672
23   Madrazo   628
24   LukasCPH   602
25   Armchair_Cyclist   592
26   Kryvo   586
27   Comodoro   571
28   RoteLaterne   547
29   Josedin   543
30   Ludwigzgz   520
31   Tych23   505
32   DJW   469
33   Scrooll07   418
34   Leadbelly   369
35   Trudgin   138
   CollectiveWisdom   692

Standings

After 3 months in the lead, The Asian is supplanted by Blues in the Bottle, but the top 6 are separated by less than 150 points, and that is well within the range of any month's scores.   A six place rise carries Squire to third place, while the two teams to beat him in April, Vladimir and Cirdi, jump into the top ten with rises of 7 and 5 places respectively.
 
1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   6146
2   TheAsian   6109
3   Squire   6067
4   Hakkie2   6039
5   ValvPiti   6031
6   Flo   6012
7   HugoKoblet   5980
8   Cordi333   5928
9   Vladimir   5886
10   Murrjt   5866
11   Jakob747   5841
12   Madrazo   5823
13   AmisVelo   5786
14   Ludwigzgz   5768
15   Del1962   5756
16   Skidmark   5736
17   18Valve   5666
18   ThePirate81   5651
19   GPBlanco   5470
20   Torcio86   5446
21   DJW   5343
22   Laarsland   5296
23   LukasCPH   5274
24   Kazistuta   5155
25   Joelsim   5116
26   Kryvo   4967
27   Togo95   4963
28   Armchair_Cyclist   4811
29   Comodoro   4616
30   Josedin   4452
31   Scrooll07   4355
32   RoteLaterne   4191
33   Tych23   3290
34   Trudgin   2610
35   Leadbelly   2307
   CollectiveWisdom   6331
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #61 on: June 20, 2018, 21:08 »
    Year 2 Month 5-6 7th May to 17 June (an extended month for reasons explained in the 2018-20 edition's thread)

    If your team is based on Spanish speaking climbers, this will be a good update for you
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      411pts (4th in Giro, with a stage win and a 2nd)    12 teams
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      305 (Tour of California, won GC and 2 stages)   30 teams
    MAS NICOLAU Enric 199 (GC 4th and 2nd on a stage in Tour de Suisse, Limburg Hammer winning team)      27
    LAMBRECHT Bjorg      182 (2nd in Tour des Fjords with stage win)   7 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian      130pts   23 teams
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      126   16
    TOLHOEK Antwan      114   1
    BOL Cees      103   4
    MERLIER Tim      103   3
    MADOUAS Valentin      102   2


    All the top 5 scorers this "month" are in Cordi's selection. In Amis Velo's too, but his back-up riders were less successful.

    1   Cordi333   1621 (Carapaz, Bernal, Mas, Lambrecht, Schachmann)
    2   Squire   1551 (Carapaz, Bernal, Mas, Martinez, Bol)
    3   Vladimir   1543 (Carapaz, Bernal, Mas, Schachmann, Martinez, Bol)
    4   AmisVelo   1528 (Carapaz, Bernal, Mas, Lambrecht, Schachmann)
    5   Jakob747   1496
    6   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1468
    7   ThePirate81   1413
    8   Hakkie2   1389
    9   ValvPiti   1336
    10   18Valve   1317
    11   Joelsim   1312
    12   GPBlanco   1282
    13   HugoKoblet   1237
    14   Skidmark   1213
    15   TheAsian   1162
    16   Flo   1131
    17   Del1962   1120
    18   RoteLaterne   1091
    19   Armchair_Cyclist   1088
    20   Togo95   1068
    21   Murrjt   1062
    22   Kazistuta   1049
    23   Ludwigzgz   1044
    24   LukasCPH   1036
    25   Torcio86   1013
    26   Josedin   1002
    27   Laarsland   983
    28   Madrazo   975
    29   Kryvo   914
    30   Comodoro   886
    31   DJW   871
    32   Tych23   721
    33   Leadbelly   681
    34   Scrooll07   588
    35   Trudgin   320
       CollectiveWisdom   1128

    Standings
    Squire was 13th at the end of February, now up from 3rd to the top step.  Cordi and Vladimir get 5 place jumps within the top ten, while Jakob and Amis Velo join that select group, but none quite match Pirate's 6 place improvement.
    1   Squire   7618
    2   Blues_in_the_Bottle   7614
    3   Cordi333   7549
    4   Vladimir   7429
    5   Hakkie2   7428
    6   ValvPiti   7367
    7   Jakob747   7337
    8   AmisVelo   7314
    9   TheAsian   7271
    10   HugoKoblet   7217
    11   Flo   7143
    12   ThePirate81   7064
    13   18Valve   6983
    14   Skidmark   6949
    15   Murrjt   6928
    16   Del1962   6876
    17   Ludwigzgz   6812
    18   Madrazo   6798
    19   GPBlanco   6752
    20   Torcio86   6459
    21   Joelsim   6428
    22   LukasCPH   6310
    23   Laarsland   6279
    24   DJW   6214
    25   Kazistuta   6204
    26   Togo95   6031
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   5899
    28   Kryvo   5881
    29   Comodoro   5502
    30   Josedin   5454
    31   RoteLaterne   5282
    32   Scrooll07   4943
    33   Tych23   4011
    34   Leadbelly   2988
    35   Trudgin   2930
       CollectiveWisdom   7459

    Next update will be shortly after the Tour, so that will be another 6 week "month".
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #63 on: August 07, 2018, 20:53 »
    Year 2, month 6-7 18 June to 5 August

    As in this month's 2016-18 update, the two top scorers are unique picks (one of them the same rider) followed by a very popular pick.

    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      284 (one stage and overall in both Adriatica Ionica and Sibiu)   for Comodoro
    AGUIRRE CALPA Hernan Ricardo   282pts (won 2 stages and GC in Qinghai Lake) for   Jakob747 (who also has him as a unique pick in the 2016-18 game)
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   117 (15th in Tour and some stage points) 30 teams
    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose      112 (win and 2 seconds in Tour of Poland)   Comodoro and Leadbelly
    ARANBURU DEBA Alex      94   Pirate81 and Vladimir
    NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel      92   Blues in the Bottle
    RYBALKIN Aleksey      92   Comodoro
    TOLHOEK Antwan      86   1
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      78   6
    HOFSTETTER Hugo      77   1
    CARBONI Giovanni      75   2

    Unsurprisingly in the light of the names above, Comodoro is top of the month by a huge margin:
    1   Comodoro   835 (Sosa, Bernal, Hodeg and Rybalkin)
    2   Jakob747   578 (Aguirre and Bernal)
    3   Vladimir   508 (Bernal and Aranburu)
    4   HugoKoblet   496 
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   488
    6   Cordi333   471
    7   Skidmark   469
    8   ValvPiti   463
    9   Blues_in_the_Bottle   460
    10   GPBlanco   452
    11   TheAsian   449
    12   Hakkie2   443
    13   ThePirate81   442
    14   Madrazo   441
    15   Joelsim   438
    16   Ludwigzgz   437
    17   Flo   436
    17   Torcio86   436
    19   Squire   433
    20   RoteLaterne   430
    21   Laarsland   428
    22   Josedin   394
    23   Togo95   393
    24   AmisVelo   388
    25   LukasCPH   369
    26   Tych23   367
    27   Del1962   361
    28   Scrooll07   352
    29   DJW   348
    30   18Valve   344
    31   Murrjt   341
    32   Leadbelly   338
    33   Kazistuta   330
    34   Kryvo   320
    35   Trudgin   176
       CollectiveWisdom   436

    Standings
    Blues in the Bottle returns to the lead, and further down the top ten, Jakob moved up and unmatched 2 places and The Asian and Hugo Koblet one each.
    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   8074
    2   Squire   8051
    3   Cordi333   8020
    4   Vladimir   7937
    5   Jakob747   7915
    6   Hakkie2   7871
    7   ValvPiti   7830
    8   TheAsian   7720
    9   HugoKoblet   7713
    10   AmisVelo   7702
    11   Flo   7579
    12   ThePirate81   7506
    13   Skidmark   7418
    14   18Valve   7327
    15   Murrjt   7269
    16   Ludwigzgz   7249
    17   Madrazo   7239
    18   Del1962   7237
    19   GPBlanco   7204
    20   Torcio86   6895
    21   Joelsim   6866
    22   Laarsland   6707
    23   LukasCPH   6679
    24   DJW   6562
    25   Kazistuta   6534
    26   Togo95   6424
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   6387
    28   Comodoro   6337
    29   Kryvo   6201
    30   Josedin   5848
    31   RoteLaterne   5712
    32   Scrooll07   5295
    33   Tych23   4378
    34   Leadbelly   3326
    35   Trudgin   3106
       CollectiveWisdom   7895
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #64 on: October 04, 2018, 22:31 »
    Year 2 Month 8/9 7th August to 30th September  (2 months together; I was rather busy with the Vuelta game at the beginning of Sept: I think I had intended doing a mid Sept update, but that didn't happen)

    Some very big scores for some of our most popular riders, and for a couple of unique picks too.

    MAS NICOLAU Enric      474    (2nd in Vuelta GC, with stage win and some other points) for    27 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian      372 (4th in BinckBank tour, 3rd in Deutschland Tout, both with stage points, 3rd in Euro & 11th in World ITTs, World TTT win)   23 teams
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      226   (Burgos GC win, with a stage win and 2nd, and 6th in l'Avenir) for Comodoro
    MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian      209   (GC win and stage points in Tour of China I, and stage win in the sequel)  for Jakob747
    NOMMELA Aksel      163 (2nd in Antwerp Port Classic, 5th and 6th in some Belgian 1.1s I don't know well) for Leadbelly
    GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      147   16 teams
    MADOUAS Valentin      137   2
    POWLESS Neilson      135   20
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      130   12
    DE GENDT Aimé      120   1
    FICARA Pierpaolo      108   1
    MOSCA Jacopo      101   1

    1   Josedin   1685 (Mas, Schachmann, Guerrero)
    2   Jakob747   1663 (Mas, Schachmann, Molano, Powless, Carapaz)
    3   Cordi333   1610 (Mas, Schachmann, Powless, Carapaz)
    4   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1599 (Mas, Schachmann, Guerrero, Powless, Carapaz)
    5   Flo   1535  (Mas, Schachmann, Guerrero, Powless)
    6   HugoKoblet   1491
    7   Del1962   1489
    8   18Valve   1482
    9   TheAsian   1470
    10   Murrjt   1449
    11   Skidmark   1437
    12   AmisVelo   1412
    13   Madrazo   1410
    14   Vladimir   1399
    15   Squire   1385
    16   Togo95   1375
    17   Kryvo   1359
    18   Torcio86   1308
    19   Laarsland   1268
    20   Hakkie2   1264
    21   ThePirate81   1181
    22   Comodoro   1176
    23   ValvPiti   1170
    24   Ludwigzgz   1145
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   1131
    26   LukasCPH   1104
    27   Joelsim   1087
    28   RoteLaterne   1046
    29   GPBlanco   1004
    30   Scrooll07   986
    31   Leadbelly   845
    32   DJW   750
    33   Kazistuta   730
    34   Trudgin   678
    35   Tych23   420
       CollectiveWisdom   1557

    Standings

    The top is a tight battle: Cordi moves up to second, and Jakob from 5th to third, pushing Squire off the podium.  Hugo Koblet moves up 3 in the top ten, and Flo gets into that elite, while the top scorer for this session, Josedin, must share the best mover plaudits with Del1962 and Kryvo (4 spots each)

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   9673
    2   Cordi333   9630
    3   Jakob747   9578
    4   Squire   9436
    5   Vladimir   9336
    6   HugoKoblet   9204
    7   TheAsian   9190
    8   Hakkie2   9135
    9   Flo   9114
    9   AmisVelo   9114
    11   ValvPiti   9000
    12   Skidmark   8855
    13   18Valve   8809
    14   Del1962   8726
    15   Murrjt   8718
    16   ThePirate81   8687
    17   Madrazo   8649
    18   Ludwigzgz   8394
    19   GPBlanco   8208
    20   Torcio86   8203
    21   Laarsland   7975
    22   Joelsim   7953
    23   Togo95   7799
    24   LukasCPH   7783
    25   Kryvo   7560
    26   Josedin   7533
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   7518
    28   Comodoro   7513
    29   DJW   7312
    30   Kazistuta   7264
    31   RoteLaterne   6758
    32   Scrooll07   6281
    33   Tych23   4798
    34   Leadbelly   4171
    35   Trudgin   3784
       CollectiveWisdom   9452
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #65 on: November 21, 2018, 00:04 »
    Year 2 Month 10/11 1st October to 18th November (and therefore effectively to the end of the season)  It didn't seem worth doing an end of October update if that left only a handful of November races to make a separate job out of.  Though I don't think waiting for the end of Tour of Fuzhou really made much difference.

    MADOUAS Valentin      134 points (Paris-Bourges win, 5th in Paris-Tours) for Kazistuta and Leadbelly.
    CAVAGNA Rémi      123   (4th in Tour of Guangxi) for 16 teams
    MINALI Riccardo      115 (5th in both GP Bruno Beghelli and Gran Piemonte) 14 teams
    TOLHOEK Antwan      103   (2nd in Japan Cup) for Armchair Cyclist
    MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian      90 for Jakob747
    GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      82   16
    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose      78   2
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      77   30
    PAGE Dylan      64   3
    RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan      62   20

    1   HugoKoblet   632 (Cavagna, Minali, Bernal and Restrepo)
    2   TheAsian   629 (Cavagna, Minali, Guerreiro, Bernal and Restrepo)
    3   Murrjt   618 (Cavagna, Minali, Guerreiro, Bernal and Restrepo)
    4   Ludwigzgz   578
    5   Flo   559
    6   Madrazo   546
    7   Hakkie2   535
    7   ValvPiti   535
    9   Josedin   528
    10   Kazistuta   527
    11   Del1962   519
    12   GPBlanco   510
    13   DJW   503
    14   Skidmark   500
    15   Kryvo   496
    16   Torcio86   480
    17   Laarsland   463
    18   Vladimir   459
    19   Squire   445
    19   Armchair_Cyclist   445
    21   18Valve   442
    22   Jakob747   422
    23   AmisVelo   416
    24   Blues_in_the_Bottle   409
    25   LukasCPH   394
    26   Joelsim   377
    27   Cordi333   364
    28   RoteLaterne   353
    29   Togo95   351
    30   Comodoro   339
    31   Leadbelly   271
    32   Scrooll07   257
    33   Tych23   246
    34   ThePirate81   240
    35   Trudgin   191
       CollectiveWisdom   686



    Standings

    Collective Wisdom team is again the table topper, but of the real teams, Blues in the Bottle has been top since the end of July, and behind him Jakob reaches 2nd place and a suspiciously round score.  HugoKoblet, The Asian, Flo and ValvPiti all are going the right way in the top ten, but only by one place each: only Murrjt manages to move 2 places up in a table whose stability defies its closeness.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   10082
    2   Jakob747   10000
    3   Cordi333   9994
    4   Squire   9881
    5   HugoKoblet   9836
    6   TheAsian   9819
    7   Vladimir   9795
    8   Flo   9673
    9   Hakkie2   9670
    10   ValvPiti   9535
    11   AmisVelo   9530
    12   Skidmark   9355
    13   Murrjt   9336
    14   18Valve   9251
    15   Del1962   9245
    16   Madrazo   9195
    17   Ludwigzgz   8972
    18   ThePirate81   8927
    19   GPBlanco   8718
    20   Torcio86   8683
    21   Laarsland   8438
    22   Joelsim   8330
    23   LukasCPH   8177
    24   Togo95   8150
    25   Josedin   8061
    26   Kryvo   8056
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   7963
    28   Comodoro   7852
    29   DJW   7815
    30   Kazistuta   7791
    31   RoteLaterne   7111
    32   Scrooll07   6538
    33   Tych23   5044
    34   Leadbelly   4442
    35   Trudgin   3975
       CollectiveWisdom   10138


    Full analysis of rider scores etc to follow on some cold wet December evening. Here are the numbers thus far.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #66 on: December 31, 2018, 17:04 »
    End of Year 2

    Najar's disqualification from the Vuelta a San Juan brings bonuses to those who picked Ganna (14 points for 22 teams), Cavagna (5 points for 16 teams) and Narvaez (1 point for one team), and so the adjusted end of Year 2 table is:

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   10097
    2   Cordi333   10008
    3   Jakob747   10000
    4   Squire   9881
    5   HugoKoblet   9855
    6   TheAsian   9824
    7   Vladimir   9800
    8   Flo   9692
    9   Hakkie2   9684
    10   ValvPiti   9554
    11   AmisVelo   9549
    12   Skidmark   9369
    13   Murrjt   9341
    14   18Valve   9251
    15   Del1962   9250
    16   Madrazo   9214
    17   Ludwigzgz   8991
    18   ThePirate81   8941
    19   GPBlanco   8737
    20   Torcio86   8697
    21   Laarsland   8457
    22   Joelsim   8344
    23   LukasCPH   8177
    24   Togo95   8164
    25   Kryvo   8070
    26   Josedin   8066
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   7977
    28   Comodoro   7866
    29   DJW   7820
    30   Kazistuta   7805
    31   RoteLaterne   7125
    32   Scrooll07   6543
    33   Tych23   5058
    34   Leadbelly   4442
    35   Trudgin   3980
       CollectiveWisdom   10157

    Ganna's end of season bonus was enough to have Cordi reclaim 2nd place.

    The best scores only this year were
    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   6247
    2   Vladimir   6174
    3   Cordi333   6124
    4   Jakob747   6072
    5   HugoKoblet   6006
    6   Squire   5989
    7   Flo   5932
    8   TheAsian   5823
    9   AmisVelo   5803
    10   Hakkie2   5761
       CollectiveWisdom   6035

    Vladimir will rue his poor first year (18th in year 1), while Madrazo (1st a year ago, now 16th) will wonder what his selection have done with the apparent talent they had.  Blues in the Bottle had been a humble 8th a year ago.

    Thus far, the best possible team would be:
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      1896   30
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      1189   12
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      1182   27
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian      998   23
    JAKOBSEN Fabio      895   0
    HOFSTETTER Hugo      801   1
    GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      772   16
    VAN DER HOORN Taco      730   0

    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      719   1
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      713   16
    MASNADA Fausto      662   0
    CERNY Josef      658   0

    GAUDU David      651   34
    STRAKHOV Dmitry      628   0
    BALLERINI Davide      611   0

    MADOUAS Valentin      594   2
    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose      584   2
    CAVAGNA Rémi      579   16
    for a total of 14862  (Blues in the Bottle has 67.9% of this)

    The Collective Ignorance team, those none of us picked, such as Jakobsen, Van der Hoorn and Masnada, would have a total thus far of 9820, and would be only 7th in the table, which shows an improvement in our picking skills compared to previous editions.

    Five riders have still not managed to gain a point, while our second most popular pick in this edition, Albanese, has still to justify his hype.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #67 on: February 05, 2019, 00:25 »
    Year 3, Month 1 to 3rd February

    The riders who will really make a difference should be ready for some important results this year.

    Of those selected, the top starters to the year have been:

    GIBBONS Ryan      144 (4th in CEGORR, 11th in TDU) for DJW
    HAMILTON Chris      131 (6th in TDU, 16th in CEGORR)   6 teams
    GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      122 (8th in TDU, 15th in CEGORR)   16
    SCHULTZ Nicholas      116 (2nd overall, and a stage win, in Herald Sun race, and nationals 19th) for GPBlanco
    HAMILTON Lucas      93 (6th in Herald Sun Tour, 19th in TDU, 8th in Aussie Nat's)   for 18Valve and Jakob747
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      73   for ValvPiti
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      50   16
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      48   12

    This month:
    1   DJW   472 (Gibbons, C Hamilton, Guerreiro)
    2   ValvPiti   353 (Guerreiro, Higuita, Martinez, Carapaz)
    3   Blues_in_the_Bottle   346 (C Hamilton, Guerreiro, Carapaz)
    4   Flo   328 (C Hamilton, Guerreiro)
    5   Del1962   300 (C Hamilton, Guerreiro)
    6   Laarsland   278
    7   Squire   272
    8   Hakkie2   255
    9   Jakob747   241
    10   Murrjt   232
    11   Ludwigzgz   229
    12   Kazistuta   224
    13   GPBlanco   221
    14   TheAsian   219
    15   LukasCPH   217
    16   18Valve   206
    17   Skidmark   202
    18   Torcio86   172
    19   Josedin   170
    20   Joelsim   168
    21   AmisVelo   160
    22   Vladimir   154
    23   ThePirate81   153
    24   Kryvo   152
    25   RoteLaterne   133
    26   Scrooll07   109
    27   Cordi333   106
    28   HugoKoblet   102
    29   Comodoro   97
    30   Togo95   85
    30   Armchair_Cyclist   85
    32   Tych23   75
    33   Leadbelly   60
    34   Madrazo   42
    35   Trudgin   33
       CollectiveWisdom   219

    Standings
    Our leader is one of the month's highest scorers, and increases his lead from less than 100 to more than 200.  Cordi drops 2 places, allowing Squire on to the podium.  The Asian and Flo also move in the right direction among the top ten, while DJW gets a 5 place rise through having the three best performing riders (among those selected, anyway: Chris Harper outscored them all) of the month.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   10443
    2   Jakob747   10241
    3   Squire   10153
    4   Cordi333   10114
    5   TheAsian   10043
    6   Flo   10020
    7   HugoKoblet   9957
    8   Vladimir   9954
    9   Hakkie2   9939
    10   ValvPiti   9907
    11   AmisVelo   9709
    12   Murrjt   9573
    13   Skidmark   9571
    14   Del1962   9550
    15   18Valve   9457
    16   Madrazo   9256
    17   Ludwigzgz   9220
    18   ThePirate81   9094
    19   GPBlanco   8958
    20   Torcio86   8869
    21   Laarsland   8735
    22   Joelsim   8512
    23   LukasCPH   8394
    24   DJW   8292
    25   Togo95   8249
    26   Josedin   8236
    27   Kryvo   8222
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   8062
    29   Kazistuta   8029
    30   Comodoro   7963
    31   RoteLaterne   7258
    32   Scrooll07   6652
    33   Tych23   5133
    34   Leadbelly   4502
    35   Trudgin   4013
       CollectiveWisdom   10376

    As I said in the update of the game now starting year 2, the March update may be slightly (hopefully only slightly) delayed because of the first races in the Spring Classics game.

    Here is the spreadsheet, with the same provisos about the way January updates work.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #68 on: March 05, 2019, 00:23 »
    Year 3, Month 2 4th February to 3rd March
    Some popular riders making a decent start to the season (although Pogacar did better than any of them, and Velasco better than all but one, and we didn't pick up on them 2 years ago)

    GAUDU David      189 (3rd in GC and 2 stages of UAE tour, 6th in Tour La Provence) for 34 (out of 35) teams
    MADOUAS Valentin      131 (2nd in both Drome and Adeche, 8th in Etoile de Besseges) for  Katistuta and Leadbelly
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      99 (4th in Volta ao Algarve)    27  teams
    FRANKINY Kilian      95(7th in Laiguelia, 6th in Haut Var) for 22
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      92 for ValvPiti
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      91 for Comodoro
    GESBERT Elie      77  for Armchair Cyclist, Kazistuta, Madrazo
    GIBBONS Ryan      76   for DJW
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      74 for 16

    This month:
    1   Togo95   776 (Gaudu, Mas, Frankiny, Martinez)
    2   ValvPiti   722  (Gaudu, Mas, Frankiny, Higuita, Martinez)
    3   Hakkie2   705  (Gaudu, Mas, Frankiny, Martinez)
    4   Cordi333   702  (Gaudu, Mas, Frankiny)
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   687  (Gaudu, Mas, Frankiny, Gesbert)
    6   Jakob747   685
    7   Ludwigzgz   669
    8   HugoKoblet   665
    9   Joelsim   663
    10   Laarsland   654
    11   18Valve   650
    12   Skidmark   639
    13   Murrjt   632
    14   TheAsian   620
    15   Madrazo   614
    16   GPBlanco   609
    17   ThePirate81   605
    18   Torcio86   603
    19   Del1962   599
    21   Comodoro   592
    22   Squire   581
    23   Flo   578
    24   Kryvo   575
    25   Vladimir   574
    26   Blues_in_the_Bottle   573
    27   Josedin   561
    20   Kazistuta   593
    29   LukasCPH   545
    30   AmisVelo   534
    31   RoteLaterne   528
    28   DJW   558
    32   Tych23   452
    33   Scrooll07   380
    34   Trudgin   270
    35   Leadbelly   219
       CollectiveWisdom   659
       CollectiveIgnorance   445

    Standings
    Collective Wisdom would retake the lead if I allowed it to, as our leader has an indifferent month. Jakub holds 2nd, but Cordi moves back to 3rd.  Hakkie and ValvPiti each move three places up the top ten, and into real contention for the podium.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   11016
    2   Jakob747   10926
    3   Cordi333   10816
    4   Squire   10734
    5   TheAsian   10663
    6   Hakkie2   10644
    7   ValvPiti   10629
    8   HugoKoblet   10622
    9   Flo   10598
    10   Vladimir   10528
    11   AmisVelo   10243
    12   Skidmark   10210
    13   Murrjt   10205
    14   Del1962   10149
    15   18Valve   10107
    16   Ludwigzgz   9889
    17   Madrazo   9870
    18   ThePirate81   9699
    19   GPBlanco   9567
    20   Torcio86   9472
    21   Laarsland   9389
    22   Joelsim   9175
    23   Togo95   9025
    24   LukasCPH   8939
    25   DJW   8850
    26   Kryvo   8797
    26   Josedin   8797
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   8749
    29   Kazistuta   8622
    30   Comodoro   8555
    31   RoteLaterne   7786
    32   Scrooll07   7032
    33   Tych23   5585
    34   Leadbelly   4721
    35   Trudgin   4283
       CollectiveWisdom   11035
       CollectiveIgnorance   10460
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #69 on: April 02, 2019, 00:58 »
    Year 3 Month 3 4th to 31st March

    I must start keeping some sort of log of the most notable wins achieved while still eligible for this game: winning Paris Nice must be right up there.  If I have sometimes wondered here how people predicted the emergence of those who were rare picks, perhaps I should also question what made 5 contestants think that there were 18 riders more likely to succeed than Egan Bernal...

    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      454 (Win Paris-Nice, 3rd in Catalunya)   30 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian      291 (GP Larciano win, Stage win, 2 podiums and 12th on GC in Catalunya)   23 teams
    BOL Cees      175 (Nokere Koerse win. 11th in De Panne) for Josedin, Leadbelly, Squire and Vladimir
    HAMILTON Lucas      143 (Settimana Coppi e Bartali win and stage points) for 18Valve and Jakob747
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      115 (stage win, 2nd in Points comp, and GC points in Paris-Nice)   16
    HOFSTETTER Hugo      111 (5th in both Drenthe and Nokere) for Scrool07
    NOMMELA Aksel      93pts   1 team
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      90   27
    VENDRAME Andrea      87   8
    SCHULTZ Nicholas      76   1

    This month:
    1   Vladimir   1187 (Bernal, Schachmann, Bol, Martinez, Mas)
    2   18Valve   1133 (Bernal, Schachmann, Hamilton, Martinez, Mas)
    3   Skidmark   1102  (Bernal, Schachmann, Martinez, Mas)
    4   Togo95   1099
    5   Squire   1087
    6   TheAsian   1086
    7   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1080
    8   Flo   1076
    9   Jakob747   1067
    10   HugoKoblet   1055
    11   Torcio86   1054
    12   Ludwigzgz   1032
    13   AmisVelo   1023
    14   Laarsland   1019
    15   Cordi333   1011
    16   Madrazo   981
    17   Murrjt   980
    18   LukasCPH   963
    19   Del1962   929
    20   Armchair_Cyclist   921
    21   Comodoro   910
    22   Kryvo   891
    23   ThePirate81   839
    24   ValvPiti   819
    25   Hakkie2   817
    26   GPBlanco   816
    27   Joelsim   789
    28   Josedin   764
    29   Kazistuta   722
    30   Tych23   624
    31   DJW   595
    32   Leadbelly   488
    33   RoteLaterne   411
    34   Trudgin   369
    35   Scrooll07   312
       CollectiveWisdom   1065
       CollectiveIgnorance   452

    Standings
    The top ten is unchanged, but Vladimir is next, with the biggest (4 place) jump this month.  Hakkie and ValvPiti respond to my suggestion last month that they were moving into podium contention by each dropping back three places to where they were at the end of January. 

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   12096
    2   Jakob747   11993
    3   Cordi333   11827
    4   Squire   11821
    5   TheAsian   11749
    6   Vladimir   11715
    7   HugoKoblet   11677
    8   Flo   11674
    9   Hakkie2   11461
    10   ValvPiti   11448
    11   Skidmark   11312
    12   AmisVelo   11266
    13   18Valve   11240
    14   Murrjt   11185
    15   Del1962   11078
    16   Ludwigzgz   10921
    17   Madrazo   10851
    18   ThePirate81   10538
    19   Torcio86   10526
    20   Laarsland   10408
    21   GPBlanco   10383
    22   Togo95   10124
    23   Joelsim   9964
    24   LukasCPH   9902
    25   Kryvo   9688
    26   Armchair_Cyclist   9670
    27   Josedin   9561
    28   Comodoro   9465
    29   DJW   9445
    30   Kazistuta   9344
    31   RoteLaterne   8197
    32   Scrooll07   7344
    33   Tych23   6209
    34   Leadbelly   5209
    35   Trudgin   4652
       CollectiveWisdom   12100
       CollectiveIgnorance   10908

    Dropbox

    Hopefully there will be an update sometime around the end of the Spring Classics/Start of the Giro: a lot of games going on...
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #70 on: April 29, 2019, 18:56 »
    Year 3, month 4 1st to 28th April

    Schachmann has been one of the stars of the Spring season, and is 5th in the 2019 CQ list.

    SCHACHMANN Maximilian      559 (3 stage wins and overall in Itzulia, 3rd in Liege, 5th in both Amstel and Fleche)     23 teams
    LAMBRECHT Bjorg      278 (4th in Fleche, 5th in Brabantse Pijl, 6th in Amstel)   7 teams
    VENDRAME Andrea      220 (TroBro win, Finisterre 2nd, stage win and top ten GC in Circuit de la Sarthe)   8
    SIVAKOV Pavel      214 (GC and stage wins in Tour of the Alps)   5
    MCNULTY Brandon      139   6
    RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan      132   20
    SWIRBUL Keegan      130   1
    GAUDU David      128   34
    (but none of us got other big scorers this month, like Masnada, Jakobsen, Pogacar and Asgreen)

    This month:
    Amis Velo got 7 of the eight riders who broke the 100 point barrier this month, with one of them as a unique pick.
    1   AmisVelo   1733 (Schachmann, Lambrecht, Vendrame, Sivakov, Restrepo, Swirbul and Gaudu)
    2   18Valve   1430 (Schachmann, Lambrecht, McNulty, Restrepo and Gaudu)
    3   Cordi333   1372 (Schachmann, Lambrecht, McNulty, Restrepo and Gaudu)
    4   RoteLaterne   1282 (Lambrecht, Vendrame, Sivakov, Restrepo, McNulty and Gaudu)
    5   HugoKoblet   1281  (Schachmann, Lambrecht, Restrepo and Gaudu)
    6   Jakob747   1227
    7   Josedin   1202
    8   Torcio86   1190
    9   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1136
    10   Flo   1056
    11   TheAsian   1029
    12   Armchair_Cyclist   1024
    13   Murrjt   988
    14   Skidmark   985
    15   Kryvo   967
    16   Vladimir   959
    17   Madrazo   935
    18   Ludwigzgz   933
    19   Togo95   909
    20   Laarsland   903
    21   LukasCPH   807
    22   Del1962   804
    23   Trudgin   773
    24   Comodoro   761
    25   Joelsim   662
    26   Squire   651
    27   Kazistuta   640
    28   ValvPiti   559
    29   Tych23   548
    30   ThePirate81   543
    31   Scrooll07   458
    32   Leadbelly   446
    33   Hakkie2   429
    34   DJW   356
    35   GPBlanco   292
       CollectiveWisdom   993
       CollectiveIgnorance   1282

    Standings

    The top three remains as it was, but the margins are very tight: 12 points in more than 13000 divide the top two, and 3rd is only 21 further back.  Amis Velo manages an 8 place jump into 4th place: remarkable to see such a significant move at this stage of the game. 18 Valve also breaks into the top ten, and Hugo Koblet moves up closer to the podium too.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   13232
    2   Jakob747   13220
    3   Cordi333   13199
    4   AmisVelo   12999 
    5   HugoKoblet   12958
    6   TheAsian   12778
    7   Flo   12730
    8   Vladimir   12674
    9   18Valve   12670
    10   Squire   12472
    11   Skidmark   12297
    12   Murrjt   12173
    13   ValvPiti   12007
    14   Hakkie2   11890
    15   Del1962   11882
    16   Ludwigzgz   11854
    17   Madrazo   11786
    18   Torcio86   11716
    19   Laarsland   11311
    20   ThePirate81   11081
    21   Togo95   11033
    22   Josedin   10763
    23   LukasCPH   10709
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   10694
    25   GPBlanco   10675
    26   Kryvo   10655
    27   Joelsim   10626
    28   Comodoro   10226
    29   Kazistuta   9984
    30   DJW   9801
    31   RoteLaterne   9479
    32   Scrooll07   7802
    33   Tych23   6757
    34   Leadbelly   5655
    35   Trudgin   5425
       CollectiveWisdom   13093
       CollectiveIgnorance   12106

    Spreadsheet
    Who will be top by the next update (shortly after the Giro)
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #71 on: April 29, 2019, 19:55 »
    Trudging closing in on me. :o
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #72 on: May 01, 2019, 20:58 »
    When Bernal is not racing my youngsters do pretty well.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #73 on: June 04, 2019, 18:21 »
    Year 3 Month 5 (29th April to 2nd June)

    2 1/2 years ago, Richard Carapaz left 2/3 of the entrants to this game unimpressed as to his future prospects: now he has won a GT.  It's only 2 months ago that I suggested that Bernal's Paris Nice win was probably the most auspicious by a rider in the emerging riders games, but that is now out of the window.

     So who did you pick instead of him? (Me? David Per, who spent the duration of the Giro recuperating from 28th in Banja Luka and preparing for 64th place in the Rund um Koln)


    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      979 pts (Stage and GC wins in Asturias, 2 stages, GC and 7 days in pink in Giro)   12 teams
    GAUDU David      218 (Stage win and 2nd, 5th overall in Romandie)   34
    DUNBAR Eddie      195   (3rd in Tour of Yorkshire, 22nd and a stage third in Giro) for Del1962, Togo and Vladimir
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      194 (2nd in GC and 2 stage podiums in California)   for ValvPiti
    BOL Cees      170 (stage wins in California and Norway, 5th on GC in Norway)   4
    JANSEN Amund Grøndahl      162   14
    SIVAKOV Pavel      157   5
    MADOUAS Valentin      114   2
    PETERS Nans      102   8
    HAGEN Carl Fredrik      95   1

    (among those eligible that we all missed, Pogacar, Lawless and Masnada all scored over 200 in the month)


    1   Vladimir   1801  (Carapaz, Gaudu, Dunbar and Bol)
    2   AmisVelo   1739 (Carapaz, Gaudu, Sivakov and Peters)
    3   Squire   1662 (Carapaz, Gaudu, Bol and Jansen)
    4   GPBlanco   1633 
    5   ValvPiti   1632
    6   Cordi333   1600
    7   Kazistuta   1596
    8   ThePirate81   1540
    9   Joelsim   1491
    10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1486
    11   Jakob747   1433
    12   Hakkie2   1334
    13   Josedin   843
    14   Del1962   777
    15   DJW   764
    16   Ludwigzgz   726
    17   Armchair_Cyclist   718
    18   Comodoro   681
    19   Laarsland   680
    20   Scrooll07   678
    21   Madrazo   663
    22   HugoKoblet   648
    23   TheAsian   616
    24   LukasCPH   609
    25   RoteLaterne   608
    26   Flo   595
    27   Togo95   591
    28   18Valve   565
    29   Skidmark   555
    30   Tych23   513
    31   Trudgin   486
    32   Leadbelly   475
    33   Torcio86   467
    34   Murrjt   437
    35   Kryvo   425
       CollectiveWisdom   627
       CollectiveIgnorance   1437


    Standings
    Carapazinos moving up all through the table, except the previous top two, who slip despite having Carapaz, as Cordi and Amis Velo move up from 3rd and 4th to the top two positions.  Vladimir and Squire also move up within the top ten, and ValvPiti joins the ten with a 6 place jump that is equalled by GPBlanco and Joelsim.

    1   Cordi333   14799
    2   AmisVelo   14738
    3   Blues_in_the_Bottle   14718
    4   Jakob747   14653
    5   Vladimir   14475
    6   Squire   14134
    7   ValvPiti   13639
    8   HugoKoblet   13606
    9   TheAsian   13394
    10   Flo   13325
    11   18Valve   13235
    12   Hakkie2   13224
    13   Skidmark   12852
    14   Del1962   12659
    15   ThePirate81   12621
    16   Murrjt   12610
    17   Ludwigzgz   12580
    18   Madrazo   12449
    19   GPBlanco   12308
    20   Torcio86   12183
    21   Joelsim   12117
    22   Laarsland   11991
    23   Togo95   11624
    24   Josedin   11606
    25   Kazistuta   11580
    26   Armchair_Cyclist   11412
    27   LukasCPH   11318
    28   Kryvo   11080
    29   Comodoro   10907
    30   DJW   10565
    31   RoteLaterne   10087
    32   Scrooll07   8480
    33   Tych23   7270
    34   Leadbelly   6130
    35   Trudgin   5911
       CollectiveWisdom   13720
       CollectiveIgnorance   13458

    I hope I can get an early July update out before processing of Tour game entries takes over my time.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #74 on: June 06, 2019, 11:59 »
     :o
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #75 on: July 03, 2019, 23:42 »
    Year 3, Month 6 3-30 June

    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      422 (GC win at Tour de Suisse, with 3 stage podiums, 2nd in thw Mts classification, and leader points)   30 teams
    MERLIER Tim      273   (won National RR and Elfstedenronde) for Comodoro, Rote Laterne and Skidmark
    VENDRAME Andrea      206 (5th in each of GP Gippingen, Tour of Slovenia and the national road race champs)   8 teams
    JANSEN Amund Grøndahl      160   (National RR win, 2nd in ZLM Tour with a stage win) 14
    DUNBAR Eddie      114   (5th in Occitanie, 2nd in both nat champ versions) 3 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian      100   23
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      100   1
    BOL Cees      90   4
    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose      82   2
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      82   27
    CARBONI Giovanni      78   2
    GANNA Filippo      76   22
    MADOUAS Valentin      75   2

    Given his consistency in coming 5th during June, it is disappointing to observe that three unselected riders (Evenepoel, Jakobsen and Philipsen) outscored Vendrame, making him narrowly miss 5th here.


    1   Comodoro   1359 (Bernal, Merlier, Jansen, Sosa, Schachmann, Hodeg, Ganna)
    2   Skidmark   1223 (Bernal, Merlier, Jansen,Schachmann, Mas, Ganna)
    3   AmisVelo   1137 (Bernal, Jansen,Schachmann, Mas, Ganna)
    4   HugoKoblet   1135 (Bernal, Jansen,Schachmann, Mas, Ganna)
    5   Vladimir   1122 (Bernal, Schachmann, Dunbar, Bol, Mas)
    6   Del1962   1076
    7   Madrazo   1068 
    8   Squire   1051
    9   Torcio86   1048
    10   ThePirate81   1037
    11   Flo   1033
    11   Armchair_Cyclist   1033
    13   Kazistuta   1029
    14   Cordi333   1011
    15   Togo95   1009
    16   Ludwigzgz   1001
    17   Blues_in_the_Bottle   975
    18   LukasCPH   974
    19   Laarsland   941
    20   GPBlanco   935
    21   Jakob747   904
    22   18Valve   862
    23   TheAsian   851
    24   Kryvo   849
    25   RoteLaterne   833
    26   Murrjt   814
    27   Joelsim   813
    28   DJW   775
    29   Tych23   760
    30   Hakkie2   750
    31   ValvPiti   738
    32   Josedin   637
    33   Leadbelly   527
    34   Scrooll07   472
    35   Trudgin   219
       CollectiveWisdom   1032
       CollectiveIgnorance   1452


    Standings

    A fairly small margin, and a mediocre month for the previous leader, means that Amis Velo takes the chance to move into the lead.  Vladimir, Hugo and Flo also move one place up among the top ten, while Comodoro is the only manager to get a 2 place rise.

    1   AmisVelo   15875
    2   Cordi333   15810
    3   Blues_in_the_Bottle   15693
    4   Vladimir   15597
    5   Jakob747   15557
    6   Squire   15185
    7   HugoKoblet   14741
    8   ValvPiti   14377
    9   Flo   14358
    10   TheAsian   14245
    11   18Valve   14097
    12   Skidmark   14075
    13   Hakkie2   13974
    14   Del1962   13735
    15   ThePirate81   13658
    16   Ludwigzgz   13581
    17   Madrazo   13517
    18   Murrjt   13424
    19   GPBlanco   13243
    20   Torcio86   13231
    21   Laarsland   12932
    22   Joelsim   12930
    23   Togo95   12633
    24   Kazistuta   12609
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   12445
    26   LukasCPH   12292
    27   Comodoro   12266
    28   Josedin   12243
    29   Kryvo   11929
    30   DJW   11340
    31   RoteLaterne   10920
    32   Scrooll07   8952
    33   Tych23   8030
    34   Leadbelly   6657
    35   Trudgin   6130
       CollectiveWisdom   14752
       CollectiveIgnorance   14814

    We have already had one GT winner in this game: will we get another in the next month?

    The numbers
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #76 on: July 04, 2019, 13:45 »
    What a run for AmisVelo! Was only 11º at the start of the year, I didn't thought he would be a contender for the win.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #77 on: July 28, 2019, 20:44 »

    2 1/2 years ago, Richard Carapaz left 2/3 of the entrants to this game unimpressed as to his future prospects: now he has won a GT.  It's only 2 months ago that I suggested that Bernal's Paris Nice win was probably the most auspicious by a rider in the emerging riders games, but that is now out of the window.

    Today, a new level of auspiciousness, new definition of emerging.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #78 on: August 13, 2019, 23:51 »
    Year 3 Month 7-8a 1 July to 11 August  (and the next update will also be about 1 1/2 months)

    How much might a rider do within three years of breaking through?  Quite a lot: the most, even.

    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      842 (1st in Tour de France, with a stage win*, jersey points and more)   30 teams
    SIVAKOV Pavel      242 (Tour de Pologne win, and stage 2nd)   5 teams
    HINDLEY Jai      179   (Tour de Pologne 2nd, and stage 3rd) for Jakob 747
    PADUN Mark      164 (Adriatica Ionica win and stage) for Jakob 747
    RIVERA SERRANO Kevin      145 (Sibiu Tour win and stage)   Joelsim and ThePirate81
    MAS NICOLAU Enric      133   27
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      124   1
    GAUDU David      120   34
    HIRSCHI Marc      112   2
    DUNBAR Eddie      92   3

    *  CQ have given points for the neutralised stage 19

    Evenepoel would have been the second highest scorer this month, but he was only 16 when we were picking our teams, so no blame there.

    The 5 teams that don't have Bernal are easily identified.  The best two unique picks are both Jakob's, and he had Bernal as well.

    1   Jakob747   1630 (Bernal, Hindley, Padun, Mas)
    2   Joelsim   1574 (Bernal, Sivakov, Rivera, Mas, Gaudu)
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   1536 (Bernal, Sivakov, Mas, Gaudu)
    4   Del1962   1512 (Bernal, Mas, Gaudu, Dunbar)
    5   Tych23   1473
    6   AmisVelo   1456
    7   ThePirate81   1445
    8   Vladimir   1417
    9   ValvPiti   1407
    10   Laarsland   1370
    11   Togo95   1353
    12   HugoKoblet   1346
    13   GPBlanco   1345
    14   Madrazo   1341
    15   Skidmark   1338
    16   Flo   1306
    17   Cordi333   1302
    18   Kryvo   1280
    19   Torcio86   1275
    20   18Valve   1270
    21   DJW   1269
    22   Hakkie2   1267
    22   Murrjt   1267
    24   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1260
    25   Squire   1258
    26   LukasCPH   1254
    27   TheAsian   1249
    28   Comodoro   1244
    29   Ludwigzgz   1242
    30   Kazistuta   1230
    31   Josedin   611
    32   RoteLaterne   586
    33   Scrooll07   540
    34   Trudgin   161
    35   Leadbelly   128
       CollectiveWisdom   1362
       CollectiveIgnorance   804

    Standings

    Amis Velo hangs onto the lead, but the only manager who moves up more than one place is Jakob going from 5th to second.  It's tight at the top...

    1   AmisVelo   17331
    2   Jakob747   17187
    3   Cordi333   17112
    4   Vladimir   17014
    5   Blues_in_the_Bottle   16953
    6   Squire   16443
    7   HugoKoblet   16087
    8   ValvPiti   15784
    9   Flo   15664
    10   TheAsian   15494
    11   Skidmark   15413
    12   18Valve   15367
    13   Del1962   15247
    14   Hakkie2   15241
    15   ThePirate81   15103
    16   Madrazo   14858
    17   Ludwigzgz   14823
    18   Murrjt   14691
    19   GPBlanco   14588
    20   Torcio86   14506
    21   Joelsim   14504
    22   Laarsland   14302
    23   Togo95   13986
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   13981
    25   Kazistuta   13839
    26   LukasCPH   13546
    27   Comodoro   13510
    28   Kryvo   13209
    29   Josedin   12854
    30   DJW   12609
    31   RoteLaterne   11506
    32   Tych23   9503
    33   Scrooll07   9492
    34   Leadbelly   6785
    35   Trudgin   6291
       CollectiveWisdom   16114
       CollectiveIgnorance   15475



    7 teams had Bjorg Lambrecht: I believe he was the 18th best scorer in the game at the time of his death.  A great talent that never fully emerged.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #79 on: October 03, 2019, 00:39 »
    Year 3, month 8b-9  12 August to 29 September

    JANSEN Amund Grøndahl      253 pts (5th in Bretagne-Ouest France, 8th and 2nd on a stage in Arctic Tour, 10th in Tour of Britain, 17th in WCRR) 14 teams
    HIRSCHI Marc      232 (3rd in San Sebastian, 5th in Binckbank Tour, 6th in Deutschland Tour) for Josedin and Tych23
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      226 (GC and two stage wins in Vuelta a Burgos)   Comodoro
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      222 (&th in Binckbank, 3rd in Montreal GC)   6
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      211 (Vuelta stage win and 14th on GC, 4th in WC U23 RR)  ValvPiti
    GANNA Filippo      202   (WCITT 3rd, stage win in Binckbank, 5th in Coppa Sabatini)  22
    CHERKASOV Nicolay      201 (9th in Burgos and 4th in Almaty GCs, 3rd in both Coppa Agostini and Giro della Toscana) Vladimir
    HAGEN Carl Fredrik      172   1
    GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      162   16
    CAVAGNA Rémi      146   16
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      145   2
    RIABUSHENKO Aliaksandr      140   3
    MERLIER Tim      130   3

    Pogacar (by more than 400 points) and Cosnefroy (by well over 100) beat anyone we did choose, and only Jansen beat Philipsen.

    1   GPBlanco   1299 (Jansen, Garcia, Ganna, Cavagna)
    2   ValvPiti   1257 (Garcia, Higuita, Ganna, Guerreiro, Cavagna)
    3   Josedin   1188 (Jansen, Hirschi, Guerreiro, Cavagna)
    4   Ludwigzgz   1153 (Jansen, Ganna, Guerreiro, Cavagna)
    5   Comodoro   1101 (Jansen, Sosa, Ganna, Merlier)
    6   Torcio86   1097
    7   Flo   1090
    8   Cordi333   1078
    9   Skidmark   955
    10   DJW   941
    11   Vladimir   933
    12   Madrazo   922
    13   ThePirate81   916
    14   HugoKoblet   899
    15   Squire   896
    16   Del1962   882
    17   LukasCPH   874
    18   TheAsian   869
    19   AmisVelo   851
    20   Hakkie2   834
    21   Blues_in_the_Bottle   823
    22   Laarsland   785
    23   Joelsim   757
    24   Kazistuta   729
    25   Togo95   716
    26   Tych23   707
    27   RoteLaterne   703
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   700
    29   Jakob747   658
    30   Scrooll07   650
    31   Murrjt   605
    32   Kryvo   570
    33   Leadbelly   538
    34   18Valve   535
    35   Trudgin   274
       CollectiveWisdom   1109
       CollectiveIgnorance   2290


    Standings

    In previous versions of the game, there has been little movement in several months towards the end.  But not this time...
    The top two on the last update had very mediocre scores in this period, allowing Cordi to regain the lead, and Vladimir back on to the podium.  33 months in, and there are only 8 points between the top two teams, and two, maybe three other teams are within striking range.  Comodoro, GPBlanco and Ludwigzgz match Cordi's 2 place move.

    1   Cordi333   18190
    2   AmisVelo   18182
    3   Vladimir   17947
    4   Jakob747   17845
    5   Blues_in_the_Bottle   17776
    6   Squire   17339
    7   ValvPiti   17041
    8   HugoKoblet   16986
    9   Flo   16754
    10   Skidmark   16368
    11   TheAsian   16363
    12   Del1962   16129
    13   Hakkie2   16075
    14   ThePirate81   16019
    15   Ludwigzgz   15976
    16   18Valve   15902
    17   GPBlanco   15887
    18   Madrazo   15780
    19   Torcio86   15603
    20   Murrjt   15296
    21   Joelsim   15261
    22   Laarsland   15087
    23   Togo95   14702
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   14681
    25   Comodoro   14611
    26   Kazistuta   14568
    27   LukasCPH   14420
    28   Josedin   14042
    29   Kryvo   13779
    30   DJW   13550
    31   RoteLaterne   12209
    32   Tych23   10210
    33   Scrooll07   10142
    34   Leadbelly   7323
    35   Trudgin   6565
       CollectiveWisdom   17223
       CollectiveIgnorance   17736

    It could all come down to some very unimportant looking minor placings somewhere.  Who do the top teams have who are still racing this year?
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #80 on: October 04, 2019, 10:58 »
    What a thrilling finale!   :o
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #81 on: October 05, 2019, 10:12 »
    The top 4 teams have 5 riders in common (Bernal, Carapaz, Gaudu, Mas, Schachmann: the 5 highest scoring riders in the game, although Pogacar and Jakobsen would have beaten some of them if chosen).

    So which of the other 13 men per team are going to do anything to make the final difference here. 

    Future starts per PCS, but startlists for some races are still very incomplete.

    Cordi Amis Velo Vladimir Jakob
    leader -8 points -238* -345
                      AGUIRRE CALPA Hernan Ricardo      
          ALBANESE Vincenzo      ALBANESE Vincenzo      ALBANESE Vincenzo      Emilia Begheli
                ARANBURU DEBA Alexander            Emilia Begheli
                BOL Cees            Paris Tours
          CAVAGNA Rémi      CAVAGNA Rémi            
                CHERKASOV Nicolay            Emilia
    CINK Ondrej      CINK Ondrej                  
          CORBEL Erwann                  
    DIBBEN Jonathan                        
                DUNBAR Eddie            
                      FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo      Emilia
    FRANKINY Kilian                  FRANKINY Kilian      Emilia
    GANNA Filippo      GANNA Filippo                  
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan                        Begheli
                      HAMILTON Lucas      
                      HINDLEY Jai      
    JANSEN Amund Grøndahl                        
          KÄMNA Lennard      KÄMNA Lennard      KÄMNA Lennard      Guangxi
    LAMBRECHT Bjorg      LAMBRECHT Bjorg            LAMBRECHT Bjorg      
                LAUK Karl Patrick            
                MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe            Guangxi
    MCNULTY Brandon                        
                MINALI Riccardo            Eurometropole
                      MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian      Guangxi
                NOVAK Domen            Japan Cup
                      PADUN Mark      Guangxi
          PETERS Nans                  Vendee Piemonte
    POWLESS Neilson                  POWLESS Neilson      Begheli Lombardia
    RAVASI Edward      RAVASI Edward                  
    RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan      RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan                  
                      REYES ORTEGA Aldemar      
                      RIABUSHENKO Aliaksandr      Emilia Guangxi
                RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian            Emilia Begheli
                SCHLEGEL Michal            
          SIVAKOV Pavel                  
    STORER Michael                        
          SWIRBUL Keegan                  
          VENDRAME Andrea                  Begheli
    VANHOUCKE Harm                     
    * accounting for 5 points won by Cees Bol in Munsterland since the update.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #82 on: October 05, 2019, 20:00 »
    Let's hope Cortina and Jansen will hold me!
    But doesn't look good.
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    Re: 2017-19 Emerging Riders CQ game
    « Reply #83 on: October 10, 2019, 19:01 »
    Cortina got a very respectable 7th in GP Bruno Beghelli, but Amis Velo sent me a text with lots of smiley faces on it when he saw Nans Peters' podium in Gran Piemonte.
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