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Re: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad #OHN
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2017, 19:37 »
have a rule and stick to it

One way or the toher the whole thing is crap because the UCI commissioners never keep their own rules, basically because the leave so much for interpretation
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    Re: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad #OHN
    « Reply #31 on: February 25, 2017, 20:22 »
    So what is this forum's point of view when it comes to riding the sidewalk, the cyclepath and whatever is there which is not the cobbles - on the "cobbled sections"?

    https://twitter.com/EdwardTheuns/status/835522792259010560

    A rule isn't really a rule unless it is enforced so the UCI either need to scrap it or start penalising people.

    Does anyone know if any fines have been handed out after todays race for riding on the pavement?
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    Re: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad #OHN
    « Reply #32 on: February 25, 2017, 21:59 »
    have a rule and stick to it

    One way or the toher the whole thing is crap because the UCI commissioners never keep their own rules, basically because the leave so much for interpretation


    IMHO if it is a cobbles race they should force cyclists onto the cobbles. It's sort of like forcing triathlon athletes into the water to do the swimming while in many cases it would be quicker to go around the lake by bike. Or like forcing alpine skiers to ski through those gates instead of letting them go straight down the hill.

    The obstacles are part of the sport and sidewalk riding, tarmac along the side of the cobbles and all and every way to avoid the obstacles that makes the race special, subtracts from the attraction of the race. They have the rules, but they need to enforce them. That means physically blocking access to various types of sidelanes at points where this kind of cheating is foreseeable. Just do it, Flanders Classics!  :angry

    I have given up hope for infractions to be penalized - that should mean disqualification. It just doesn't happen. Only prevention is effective, and given that it is not many kilometers we are talking about, that kind of prevention should definetly be possible in Flanders.

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    Re: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad #OHN
    « Reply #33 on: February 25, 2017, 22:29 »


    https://twitter.com/Vanlooyalfas/status/835540586107187202

    He is a great  dude, but Sagan should avoid UK on November 5th. #guidofawkes

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    Re: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad #OHN
    « Reply #34 on: February 26, 2017, 08:31 »
    So what is this forum's point of view when it comes to riding the sidewalk, the cyclepath and whatever is there which is not the cobbles - on the "cobbled sections"?
    In my opinion, there are three options:
    1) Rigorously disqualify anyone who does it, even if it's the world champion, Olympic champion and Flanders' best hope for the classics season.
    2) Make the race organisers put up barriers alongside every cobbled section.
    3) Drop the rule.

    A rule that isn't enforced even in the face of unambiguous evidence isn't worth the paper it's written on.

    Two years ago, the lack of rigorous enforcement of the "no crossing of railway crossings when gates are down" got not one, but dozens of riders far closer to having to be scraped off the front of a TGV than any of us like to admit. On live TV, during the biggest one-day race of the sport.
    For their own safety, everyone who went over that railway crossing should have to be disqualified then and there.

    If rules meant to protect the riders from their own competitiveness aren't enforced, why should anyone believe they'll crack down on riding on the sidewalk or cyclepath? And at the same time, riders get barred from the once-in-a-lifetime experience of riding in the ITT Worlds only because they don't have the money to buy a bike that conforms with some rule they made up (2011, Semere Mengis).

    Either you enforce every rule, or you don't enforce any of them.
    It's time the UCI decided which it should be.


    Also, they're a month late on releasing the qualification criteria for this year's ME & MU Worlds. :fp
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    Re: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad #OHN
    « Reply #35 on: February 26, 2017, 09:57 »
    It does seem daft that the race is built around cobbles and that riders can just avoid them.

    Even worse when the Sagan group went straight up the path, and then the following group were prevented from doing so by motos. Clearly unfair and needs to be enforced better.
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