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Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
« on: February 17, 2017, 08:16 »
Here's a schedule of the cycling events (using Japanese time, UTC+9; that's 7 hours ahead of CEST, 8 hours ahead of BST, 13 hours ahead of EDT, 16 hours ahead of PDT):

Day Hour Event
24 July 11:00 Men's RR
25 July 13:00 Women's RR
26 July 15:00 Men's cross-country MTB
27 July 15:00 Women's cross-country MTB
28 July 11:30 Women's ITT
28 July 14:00 Men's ITT
29 July 10:00 BMX Racing quarter-finals (men & women)
30 July 10:00 BMX Racing semi-finals (men & women)
30 July 11:40 Men's BMX Racing final
30 July 11:50 Women's BMX Racing final
31 July 10:10 BMX Freestyle seeding (men & women)
1 August 10:10 Women's BMX Freestyle final
1 August 11:20 Men's BMX Freestyle final
2 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
2 August 18:06 Women's Team Sprint finals
3 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
3 August 17:19 Women's Team Pursuit finals
3 August 17:41 Men's Team Sprint finals
4 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
4 August 17:59 Men's Team Pursuit finals
5 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
5 August 17:45 Women's Keirin final
5 August 17:55 Men's Omnium: Points Race
6 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
6 August 17:15 Women's Madison
6 August 18:00 Men's Sprint finals
7 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
7 August 16:55 Men's Madison
8 August 10:00 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
8 August 11:20 Women's Sprint finals
8 August 12:00 Men's Keirin final
8 August 12:25 Women's Omnium: Points Race




Here's the course for the Tokyo RR[1]. Followed by 12 flat kilometres to the finish:
https://twitter.com/hendriksmj/status/832492449071321088
 1. it wasn't after all, we know now
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 08:35 »
    http://nos.nl/artikel/2158520-olympische-wegwedstrijd-in-tokio-over-twee-klimmetjes.html

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    The first climb is 1.7 kilometers long, with an average increase of 3.2 percent. After a short descent follows a climb of 2.3 kilometers long. Which brings the riders to the highest point of the trail (134 meters above sea level). The rate of increase of that climb is 3.7.

    The course in Tokyo therefore seems less written on the body of the climbers than the track in Rio during the last summer Games.

    You don't say. :P
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 15:37 »
    https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/official-documents/tokyo-2020---olympic-games/liste-des-noc-qualifi-s-me-2020.pdf?sfvrsn=3bc0989c_10

    Olympic Quotas:

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    Belgium (5/2)
    Colombia (5/1)
    Spain (5/1)
    France (5/1)
    Italy (5/2)
    Netherlands (5/1)

    Australia (4/2)
    Denmark (4/1)
    Great Britain (4/2)
    Germany (4/2)
    Norway (4/1)
    Slovenia (4/1)
    Switzerland (4/2)

    Austria (3/1)
    Canada (3/1)
    Czech Republic (3/1)
    Ireland (3/1)
    Kazakhstan (3/1)
    Poland (3/1)
    South Africa (3/1)
    Russia (3/1)

    Algeria (2/0)
    Ecuador (2/1)
    Eritrea (2/1)
    Estonia (2/2)
    Japan (2/0)
    Latvia (2/0)
    Luxembourg (2/0)
    New Zealand (2/2)
    Portugal (2/2)
    Slovakia (2/1)
    Turkey (2/0)
    United States (2/2)

    Argentina (1/0)
    Azerbaijan (1/0)
    Burkina Faso (1/0)
    China (1/0)
    Chinese Taipei (1/0)
    Costa Rica (1/0)
    Greece (1/0)
    Guatemala (1/0) )
    Hong Kong (1/0)
    Hungary (1/0)
    Iran (1/1)
    Lithuania (1/0)
    Morocco (1/0)
    Mexico (1/0)
    Namibia (1/0)
    Panama (1/0)
    Peru (1/0)
    Romania (1/0)
    Rwanda (1/0)
    Ukraine (1/0)
    Uzbekistan (1/0)
    Venezuela (1/0)
    Belarus (1/0)
    Sweden (1/0)
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #4 on: November 28, 2019, 14:09 »
    https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1200035976216825861

    No Olympics for Tony at all. Concentrating on the Worlds TT instead.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #5 on: December 17, 2019, 10:28 »
    https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/zakarin-considers-changing-nationality-after-wada-ban-on-russia/

    I guess as a former doper he won't be allowed to compete under the neutral flag or as "OAR". And even if he is able to become a Cypriot citizen before the Olympics: they didn't qualify anyway.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #6 on: December 18, 2019, 12:34 »
    https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/zakarin-considers-changing-nationality-after-wada-ban-on-russia/

    I guess as a former doper he won't be allowed to compete under the neutral flag or as "OAR". And even if he is able to become a Cypriot citizen before the Olympics: they didn't qualify anyway.
    Yeah, but, you know, he's too busy riding bikes to consider all this? :shh

    To have any chance of competing under a different flag, he'd have had to 'do an Olga'[1] and change nationality at least at the beginning of 2019, in order to score enough points to qualify.
    This is a re-run of the "Rebellin becoming Argentinian" in 2004 story - that didn't actually happen either.

    Ironically, *ru -> *uz Olga Zabelinskaya, who did the nationality switch early enough, failed to qualify for the Olympics too.  :lol
     1. Olga Zabelinskaya, triple Olympic medalist and once suspended for doping, changed nationality from *ru to *uz in August 2018
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #7 on: January 03, 2020, 07:25 »
    https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/zakarin-considers-changing-nationality-after-wada-ban-on-russia/

    I guess as a former doper he won't be allowed to compete under the neutral flag or as "OAR". And even if he is able to become a Cypriot citizen before the Olympics: they didn't qualify anyway.

    I thought I had read somewhere that he was going to be allowed to ride under the neutral flag.  Because he was under the cycling testing regime, and not under the Russian ADA testing ... or something.

    It does strike me as something that he would be able to appeal if they prevented it.  He has served his time once, was kept out of the last olympics also because of a previous offence and now (according to him) they want to punish him a third time for the same offense.

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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 08:00 »
    It does strike me as something that he would be able to appeal if they prevented it.  He has served his time once, was kept out of the last olympics also because of a previous offence and now (according to him) they want to punish him a third time for the same offense.

    from my understanding of the rules (at least those applied for the 2018 Winter Olympics) he'll be punished for that forever, yes

    To invite individual Russian athletes to the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018 [...] Athletes must be considered clean to the satisfaction of this panel:
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    2016 was a but of a different story as Russia was still taking part as a nation back then. For this "OAR" thing the IOC is basically free to invite whoever they want anyway, I think.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #9 on: January 04, 2020, 23:11 »
    from my understanding of the rules (at least those applied for the 2018 Winter Olympics) he'll be punished for that forever, yes
    Am I right that these restrictions wouldn't apply if Zakarin were starting under a different flag?
    Not that it matters since *cy isn't qualified for the Olympics anyway ...
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #10 on: February 18, 2020, 01:52 »
    Was just reading this article about Chris Froome and his Tour/Olympics ambitions for 2020. 
    :S


    However, there's an interesting description of the road surface and final climb of the Tokyo Road Race course, from a recon ride that included Froome, Michal Kwiatkowski, Jakob Fuglsang and Romain Bardet.

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    With gradients of 20%, the Mikuni Pass is as steep as many of Europe’s most challenging ascents. But that isn’t what Bardet means when he says it’s different and demanding. It is the road surface itself that will take the European riders out of their comfort zone. Huge storm drains on either side narrow the racing area, while the grippy surface is covered in grooves designed to drain away the typhoon rainfall. It makes for leg-sapping climbing conditions, that will likely suit only the strongest climbing legs.



    Could be interesting.  :)
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #11 on: February 18, 2020, 11:02 »
    That looks easy. Even I could do a couple of kms at 12% downhill.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #12 on: February 18, 2020, 14:48 »
    That looks easy. Even I could do a couple of kms at 12% downhill.

    You forget that Japan, like China, is the other side of the world. Up is down, down is up.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #13 on: December 30, 2020, 08:40 »
    https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1344188619364454400

    Here's a major fly in the ointment.

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    The Tour de France starts next year on June 26 and ends on July 18. Road cycling will be on the Olympic program between 24 and 28 July. This would make it impossible to complete the Tour and participate in the Olympic Games.

    The MTB race is on the 26th July, so MVDP is in the same boat.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #14 on: January 03, 2021, 19:23 »
    Here's a major fly in the ointment.

    With the arrival of the vaccines, I wonder if any of these protocols might change by then.

    Because this is just plain stupid.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #15 on: January 03, 2021, 21:08 »
    it may change, I guess, if the situation improves a lot, but I don't see it as stupid. For most athletes (almost all, apart from the cyclists) it's the highlight of the season, or even their career, and giving them enough time to adjust their schedule and preparation accordingly is way better than telling them a month in advance. Lifting restrictions on short term notice is easier than enforcing them.

    You also need to keep in mind that the Olympics attract (mainly?) non-professional athletes from around the world, partly facing very different circumstances in terms of potential vaccination. And so far we don't even know if it stops people from being infectious.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #16 on: January 04, 2021, 18:18 »
    ......and if you consider how many billions (or trillions in yen?) it costs to put on an Olympics (add on a few more for the postponement), then I find it very easy to see why the IOC and the Japanese are being ultra-cautious about it all. I think it's sensible not stupid. If some riders miss out, so be it, but hopefully things will have eased off a bit by then.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Road Race & ITT thread
    « Reply #17 on: January 05, 2021, 11:29 »
    will certainly be interesting to see how they handle things
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    Fun fun fun.
    Seven hours are definitely on the steep side ... but everybody going to Tokyo has been warned that the arrival procedures will take several hours, incl. PCR tests and whatnot.

    What surprises me is that he's allowed into Japan already a full 10 days before the men's RR - Paralympic athletes and staff will only be able to enter the country 5 days before their first competition (though this can be extended with pre-Games training camps, which I guess is the case here).
    Though from the *de team, Buchmann and Geschke are still doing that loop of France ...
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    I'm already confused.  :S

    Glancing at the Olympic schedule on CN, and there's no iTT mentioned. Thinking it may have been cancelled, I searched elsewhere to discover that it's set for Wed, July 28th.

    Then, perusing my NBC/Peacock streaming options, they give me a selection of sports to choose from on their "Olympic Hub."

    Browse by sport:
     
    Soccer, Basketball, Gymnastics, Swimming, Track & Field, Tennis, Beach Volleyball, Diving, Softball, Water polo.
    :slow

    This useful site informs me that the Men's Road Race will occur on both Friday and Saturday. Yet neither time seems to correspond with reality. Even when allowing for different time zones, I'm not sure what they plan on offering before the event has even taken place.

    And nowhere can I get any confirmation as to which events will be broadcast live, and which ones will be tape delayed—other than multiple sources indicating that tape delay will be the norm, given the obvious time difference. But if they're offering these events through their streaming service, then why should it matter when the event is? Just show the damn thing as it's happening, as the vast majority of people will not be able to avoid spoilers when it comes to something like the Olympics. Not to mention, there certainly won't be any conflicting sporting events taking place at the same time over here, so what else is there to show?

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    According to Olympics.com, the men's road race will begin at 10:00 pm Friday, July 23rd for me (EDT) which will be 11:00 am Saturday, July 24th local time (JST).

    Normally this would be quite a fun time for me to watch, but given my recent sleep scheule (which was only reinforced during the TdF) staying awake beyond the first hour may be a challenge. From what I can tell, all the other cycling events will taking place well after midnight for me, so it's doubtful I'll see any of them live, even if they are available.

    Unless I wake up in the middle of the night.
    Which I often do.
    So there's that. 
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    As an aside:

    How about changing this thread title to include all the Olympic cycling events?
    Especially since the most-watched riders of the MTB race are likely to be those from the Peloton anyway, and the track racing isn't likely to generate enough discussion for its own thread.

    Just a thought.  :)
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
    « Reply #23 on: July 22, 2021, 11:21 »
    Really sad that the games are going ahead - the people of Japan, the local organisers, the volunteers and the athletes all deserve more than empty stadia; and late CV19 competitor call offs. I feel that the IOC could and should have simply cancelled the 2020-21 edition and rolled all events back 4years - Tokyo 24 / Paris 28 / LA 32; and same with Winters (dodging the likely 2022 boycott as a bonus).  Awful leadership by Bach.

    I'll watch mens RR and ITT tho!
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
    « Reply #24 on: July 22, 2021, 17:59 »
    Here's a schedule of the cycling events (using Japanese time, UTC+9; that's 7 hours ahead of CEST, 8 hours ahead of BST, 13 hours ahead of EDT, 16 hours ahead of PDT):

    Day Hour Event
    24 July 11:00 Men's RR
    25 July 13:00 Women's RR
    26 July 15:00 Men's cross-country MTB
    27 July 15:00 Women's cross-country MTB
    28 July 11:30 Women's ITT
    28 July 14:00 Men's ITT
    29 July 10:00 BMX Racing quarter-finals (men & women)
    30 July 10:00 BMX Racing semi-finals (men & women)
    30 July 11:40 Men's BMX Racing final
    30 July 11:50 Women's BMX Racing final
    31 July 10:10 BMX Freestyle seeding (men & women)
    1 August 10:10 Women's BMX Freestyle final
    1 August 11:20 Men's BMX Freestyle final
    2 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
    2 August 18:06 Women's Team Sprint finals
    3 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
    3 August 17:19 Women's Team Pursuit finals
    3 August 17:41 Men's Team Sprint finals
    4 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
    4 August 17:59 Men's Team Pursuit finals
    5 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
    5 August 17:45 Women's Keirin final
    5 August 17:55 Men's Omnium: Points Race
    6 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
    6 August 17:15 Women's Madison
    6 August 18:00 Men's Sprint finals
    7 August 15:30 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
    7 August 16:55 Men's Madison
    8 August 10:00 Track: various preliminary rounds (men & women)
    8 August 11:20 Women's Sprint finals
    8 August 12:00 Men's Keirin final
    8 August 12:25 Women's Omnium: Points Race
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
    « Reply #25 on: July 22, 2021, 23:16 »
    It looks like it's going to be quite arm with a slight possibility of rain for the men's road race.
    The specifics vary depending on the source (the Olympic site or AccuWeather).
    I guess we just won't know until we know, but it should be proper summer racing weather.

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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
    « Reply #26 on: July 24, 2021, 02:10 »
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    I truly despise this company.  :wut

    That's it for me, then. I'm done with this Olympics.
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
    « Reply #27 on: July 25, 2021, 16:15 »
    Ahhh, don't give up quite yet there maybe another option.

    Don't know if there are country restrictions but the streaming provided by the CBC has been quite good ...though having commentators  that are shared with other countries is a bit weird sometimes.

    As an example....

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/sports/olympics/cycling

    Hope this works for all youse guys and gals...

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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
    « Reply #28 on: July 26, 2021, 01:12 »
    Hope this works for all youse guys and gals...

    Thanks, but alas...

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    I noticed that NBC posted some videos on YouTube for both the men and women's race.
    It's also quite evident that I'm not the only one harboring disdain for that company. Nearly every, single comment under the videos rightly savaged them for their completely abysmal attempt at a highlight reel. 
    :D

    (They really were inexcusably bad.)
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    Re: Tokyo 2020 Olympic Cycling thread
    « Reply #29 on: July 26, 2021, 17:02 »
    I loved Pidcock's comments after his win yesterday.

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    "I'm happy this sh*t is only every four years because it's flipping stressful"

    Strangely that didn't get quoted on the BBC report they did on his victory. :D
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