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Re: Paris - Nice 2017
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2017, 17:09 »
Looking for some #ag2r AG2R comments or at least a story explaining a little more what happened. Who was the BMC rider that was with him (cause he returned to the group s.t. as Bardet?)
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #31 on: March 05, 2017, 17:15 »
    Bardet disqualified. A bit harsh, but okay I guess

    edit: too late
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #32 on: March 05, 2017, 17:17 »
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #33 on: March 05, 2017, 19:46 »
    Demare was a bit good today. Perhaps we'll see him win MSR this year with an attack on the Poggio rather than in a sprint.
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #34 on: March 05, 2017, 22:23 »
    Got this on record, but what the hell happened there?
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #35 on: March 05, 2017, 23:09 »
    Demare was a bit good today. Perhaps we'll see him win MSR this year with an attack on the Poggio rather than in a sprint.

    he was on the edge today I think, 100m more to push on that climb and he would have exploded - but Alaphilippe made the mistake to try to keep something in the tank for the sprint. But nonetheless... really strong, yeah
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #36 on: March 05, 2017, 23:20 »
    he was on the edge today I think, 100m more to push on that climb and he would have exploded - but Alaphilippe made the mistake to try to keep something in the tank for the sprint. But nonetheless... really strong, yeah

    My suggestion about the attack on the Poggio was tongue in cheek but that he was able to follow Alaphilippe and others in the group couldn't/wouldn't/didn't shows that he's in very good shape to me to defend his title at MSR
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #37 on: March 06, 2017, 01:32 »
    recorded it and watched today

    oretty good stage.  I am a bit surprised that Bardet was DQ'd - but good decision generally.  you could see he was hanging on and drafting a LOT.   As long as it is consistent all will be fine.

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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #38 on: March 06, 2017, 10:09 »
    Bardet has the grandeur to step up, admit it was wrong, and apologise: :cool
    https://twitter.com/romainbardet/status/838460331395534852
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #39 on: March 06, 2017, 10:36 »
    No time for a quality stage preview from me today; I just noted that
    • much of the stage is in open country in contrast to yesterday's (which had more forest)
    • there is a windy forecast
    • reports from start area says it is windier and rainier than yesterday
    • most of the stage heads SE which means the predicted NW wind direction is tailwind along most of the stage
    • route turns E-W heading into local loop: this is where a sidewind attack could work, and it is probably on TV. Enjoy!

    My bet: selection to happen before the local loops, sprint finish from a reduced bunch, winner:

    #fdj Demare
     
    alternatives:
    #katusha Kristoff
    #lotto Greipel
    #quickstep Kittel
    #cofidis Bohanni
    #sunweb Matthews
    #trek Degenkolb

    GC candidate to drop out in crosswinds:
    #ag2r Bardet  :P
    #trek Contador (the team seems to struggle with something)
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #40 on: March 06, 2017, 10:39 »
    recorded it and watched today

    oretty good stage.  I am a bit surprised that Bardet was DQ'd - but good decision generally.  you could see he was hanging on and drafting a LOT.   As long as it is consistent all will be fine.

    But thats the problem it probably won't be consistent. Had another 2 or 3 GC riders gone down in the crash and they'd all had a few magic spanners and some drafting to get back on I'd imagine it would have been a few fines handed out rather than DSQ's.
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #41 on: March 06, 2017, 11:35 »
    Looking for some #ag2r AG2R comments or at least a story explaining a little more what happened. Who was the BMC rider that was with him (cause he returned to the group s.t. as Bardet?)

    Schar never made it back he DNF'd
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #42 on: March 06, 2017, 11:42 »

    I'm surprised at you all, suprised that the poor French boy was DQ'd whereas the nasty Italian deserved it of course, back in the Vuelta.

    But he boy apologised, so did the italian but he is vilified and it is brought up everytime a rider has a sticky bottle (some commentators / podcasters).

    Man the italian even had a DS in tears taking responsibility...


    Both were DQ'd, and both should have been DQ'd

    And that is the end of it.

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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #43 on: March 06, 2017, 11:44 »
    Schar never made it back he DNF'd

    OK, next question then (what I really wonder is...) was that Richie Porte?
    It was a rather small rider compared to Bardet, and most of the BMC squad is made up of tall guys...
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #44 on: March 06, 2017, 11:45 »
    I see I am already proven wrong on how the stage would evolve:

    https://twitter.com/ParisNice/status/838712730072846336
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #45 on: March 06, 2017, 11:57 »
    This will be an epic day - but my tip Demare is in the first group.  :D

    https://twitter.com/ParisNice/status/838717758854529025
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #46 on: March 06, 2017, 13:28 »
    This will be an epic day - but my tip Demare is in the first group.  :D
    It's absolute madness out there!
    And still one hour to go until Eurosport go live ... :(
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #47 on: March 06, 2017, 16:08 »

    Lalalalaaaaalalaaaalala

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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #48 on: March 07, 2017, 08:39 »


    looked like being a real ugly stage for many, turned out just to be bitch of day for most except Little Richard and #bmc who got flused down the toilet
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #49 on: March 07, 2017, 08:45 »
    Looks like the weather is much better today no rain
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #50 on: March 07, 2017, 09:24 »

    I really enjoyed yesterday's stage, I thought Gilbert showed some real grit in miserable conditions. It's good top see him really at the sharp end of things again.
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #51 on: March 07, 2017, 19:21 »
    Great sprint by Sam Bennett  #bora against a field including most of the best sprinters in the world. Particularly nice to see two likeable underdog sprinters win in a row.
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #52 on: March 08, 2017, 06:50 »


    Nice to see Postman Sam winning
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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #53 on: March 08, 2017, 08:12 »
    today's stage should be really interesting, with the ~10k flat section and then the fairly steep climb. I checked for some more or less comparable time trials in the past, but there are not too many.

    The annual one the the Etoile de Bessege comes relatively close, although with a way shorter climb





    Then in Pais Vasco there was a more or less comparable one, although with the Aia double in the end, so more climbing





    Tony Martin lost something around ~45 seconds in the 2nd part back then, so around ~5% of the 18 minute interval. On Mont Brouilly Wilco Kelderman has the Strava record for the final 2.2k with 6:15 minutes (set during the 200k stage in Paris Nice 2014), so the total climbing time should (at most) be around 8 minutes for the final 3k today. If Martin can limit his losses to 5% (24 seconds) again, may he have a chance to win?!

    There are some more hilly time trials of course starting with a flat, but in most cases (Flumserberg in Tour de Suisse for example) the climb was way harder. In the Tour of California there was one with a climb of kinda similar average gradient and length in the end a few years back, but the flat part was almost three times as long:



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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #54 on: March 08, 2017, 09:16 »


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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
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    « Reply #56 on: March 08, 2017, 16:01 »


    Nice to see Postman Sam winning

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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #58 on: March 08, 2017, 18:22 »
     Is a minute and a half retrievable on the big climb, or is making the podium a more realistic goal?



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    Re: Paris - Nice 2017
    « Reply #59 on: March 08, 2017, 18:27 »
    Is a minute and a half retrievable on the big climb, or is making the podium a more realistic goal?
    The latter. He needs 3 seconds on Zakarin, 11 seconds on Martin, 26 on Henao and 1:31 on Alaphilippe. If he manages to pass two of them and he's third. I'd say 26 seconds on Henao and especially 1:31 on Alaphilippe is pretty much impossible, unless they implode. To keep his GC hopes alive, he should have gained time on Alaphilippe and gained more on Henao.

    Of course, I don't really care about a podium. I'd prefer to see him win a stage, but he seems to be terrible at winning (non-MTT) stages the last few years :S
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