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E3 Harelbeke
« on: March 19, 2017, 19:28 »
Record Bank E3 Harelbeke (1.UWT)


The route



The last two winners, Kwiatkowski and Thomas aren't racing this year, and of course 3 time winner Cancellara has retired. All eyes will be on Peter Sagan as he attempts to repeat the feat he managed in 2014.

The parcours features a number of bergs including the Oude Kwaremont and the Paterberg, the last of which is the Tiegemberg which appears roughly 30km from the end. By this time there'll be riders everywhere.


The favourites

Quick Step in particular have been strong this week and take an experienced team to E3 including Boonen, Stybar and of course Gilbert who lit up DDV yesterday before Lampaert took the win.

They won't have it all their own way though with Sagan, Van Avermaet, Kristoff and Betancur* in the list of starters.

As ever Sagan will need to be watched as he has the ability to just ride away from most riders, seemingly at will and he starts as the hot favourite. Clearly the race is likely to depend on the World Champion, any pretenders to the title will need to be extremely strong and tactically astute to distance the Bora rider.

***** Sagan
**** Van Avermaet, Stybar, Degenkolb,
*** Stannard, Naesen, Vanmarcke, Durbridge, EBH, Kristoff, Rowe, Benoot






























*Yes I know. It was a joke.


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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 21:32 »
    Before the official preview may I share a clipping?  ;)



    (Het Nieuwsblad last Wednesday)

    The police will use the GPE3 facebook page to communicate if ever there are irregularities on the route. Thereby the security services want to prevent any incident. Last year the GPE3 like Dwars were held shortly after the Brussels/Zaventem terrorist attack. The GPE3 Facebook page is followed by 7,000 cycling fans and their Twitter account by 11,000 of them.

    The organisers also have 11 fixed camera's in the finish area and two drones as extra guards.
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #2 on: March 22, 2017, 10:43 »
    To be previewed on Tuesday.

     :shh

     :cool

    Tuesday after the Race  :-x :angel
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #3 on: March 22, 2017, 11:25 »
    Tuesday after the Race  :-x :angel


    The race begins in the seaside resort of E3 and after several high mountains reaches Harelbeke. Weather expected to be 40 degrees in the shade with a wind chill factor of -20.

    Someone from Cannondale-Drapac FTW, FWIW.




    Yes, next Tuesday.*




















    *Tonight I promise. To be honest I wanted to see who looked in decent shape today first.
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 00:21 »
    http://inrng.com/2017/03/gp-e3-harelbeke-preview-2017/#more-30754

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    Movistar don’t bring cobbled conqueror Imanol Erviti but will hope Carlos Betancur can shine in the event of a brunch sprint.

     :lol
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 07:57 »
    I just love this race! It might be because it's a bit different by being on a Friday My pick for today is Jasper Stuyven...

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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 08:18 »
    *be Het Nieuwsblad's star rating for today:

    ***** Sagan
    **** Terpstra, GvA
    *** Stybar, Boonen, Kristoff
    ** Gilbert, Benoot, Rowe, Stuyven
    * Naesen, Degenkolb, EBH, Vanmarcke, Boom
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 09:05 »
    the star rating might be a tad hard on Degenkolb - I would have had him at 2 stars.

    Otherwise I probably almost agree with that
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 09:11 »
    Not much faith in Vanmarcke with only one star. He really needs a big result.
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 09:22 »
    Not much faith in Vanmarcke with only one star. He really needs a big result.

    yeah, he isn't quite back to form after his Strade Bianche crash though. And now he also fell sick or something after Dwars. He plans to start today & in GW, but I don't think there's too much to expect
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #12 on: March 24, 2017, 09:33 »
    yeah, he isn't quite back to form after his Strade Bianche crash though. And now he also fell sick or something after Dwars. He plans to start today & in GW, but I don't think there's too much to expect

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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #14 on: March 24, 2017, 10:27 »
    the star rating might be a tad hard on Degenkolb - I would have had him at 2 stars.

    Otherwise I probably almost agree with that

    True, before last year he looked in similar form to Sagan is now. I think after the injury though he is still regaining form to an extent, has proved that he can sprint on flat / slightly uphill well again but hasn't actually raced on cobbles (I don't think) since so will be interesting to see how he goes.

    Personally I think Trek might go with Jasper for this one and back Degenkolb for G-W, RVV, P-R
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #16 on: March 24, 2017, 10:38 »
    well he already won MSR ... cant say I blame him for wanting to win a 2nd monument and concentrating on that. 
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #17 on: March 24, 2017, 10:57 »
     Sporza's live coverage slot is 14-15 to 18-00cet, so no complaints there!

    Eurosport player has live coverage from 15-00cet, but I can't say if any of the ES "family" are breaking ranks to show it live on tv instead of Catalunya.
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    « Reply #18 on: March 24, 2017, 10:58 »
    Sporza's live coverage slot is 14-15 to 18-00cet, so no complaints there!

    Eurosport player has live coverage from 15-00cet, but I can't say if any of the ES "family" are breaking ranks to show it live on tv instead of Catalunya.

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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #19 on: March 24, 2017, 11:00 »
    yep I have E3 on Eurosport here ... Catalunya after
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #20 on: March 24, 2017, 12:29 »
    well he already won MSR ... cant say I blame him for wanting to win a 2nd monument and concentrating on that.

    He had already planned at the start of the season to skip the cobbled races.  ;)
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #21 on: March 24, 2017, 17:02 »


    :win

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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #22 on: March 25, 2017, 00:34 »
     :angry    :angry     :angry     :angry     :angry     :angry     :angry    :angry    :angry    :angry    :angry

    Damn It !!!!


     :lol



    They were the 2 strongest - Naeson was very good. 

    It wasnt nearly as entertaining a race as Dwars Door Vlaanderen though.  Mostly we spent the race wondering if the group behind were going to be bothered chasing.  They just never seemed to work together.  Sagan had a guy in the break so decided that he didnt need to work (and then got caught up ina  crash and delayed).   Trek, Lotto, Katusha and others all spent time at the front, but mostly refused to work together to bring it back.  At the front of the bunch you were much more likely to see a BMC or Quickstep rider marking than actual pacesetting.


    So - What we learned

    1 - Phil is BACK !!!!    2 podiums in 3 days is a good indication that he is in form and ready for Flanders

    2 - Quickstep made the pace ... but punctures at the wrong time meant that only Phil made the move when it happened.  They probably wont be thrilled with that return

    3 - GVA in good form.  He seems a lot more settled and confident than previous years with all those second places and struggling to find a way to win.    I like the gold bands on his sleeves - much better than a gold bike.

    4 - Sep VanMarcke wont be there at the end of Flanders.  Twice in 3 days he has not had the strength ... and if you dont have it in a 206km race, how do you expect to last the distance over 260?

    5 - Sagan unlucky in being caught in a crash - but he was riding in the bunch with all the strongest contenders in the move in front.  Its not the normal way of things for Sagan.  MSR proved he is in shape so still expect him to defend RvV with his usual aggressiveness



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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #24 on: March 25, 2017, 10:43 »
    I haven't seen Dwars door België but and have just seen the E3 on Youtube (not live though) and I may safely say it was a great race. 70km long breakaway? Would you see that very often on stage races?

    Great to see an all-Belgian top3 with one Walloon and two Waaslanders.   :D By the way, it's nice to see how there's still a great companionship between those two Waaslanders. When Gilbert attacked on the Tiegemberg, Van Avermaet countered and did not take turn right away in order to let Naesen get back on the descent. Remember that Greg and Ollie are very good friends. I referred to this after Plouay (remember Greg countered Rui Costa and did not take any turn because Ollie was still in front and eventually won that one). Greg founded a kind of club of training mates from the Waasland along with his Ongena cousins. Mathias Ongena asked Greg with Ollie could join in. Greg nodded and then when he realised that Ollie could keep up with him in the climbs, he realised that he had found a huge talent.  ;) :cool

    I also never really realised how much Naesen's position on the bike was a thing of beauty.  :) And this sprint start was really impressive.

    Also some say Vanmarcke is really done now but given the fact that at Dwars he had an offday or rather was hoping it was but an offday, still felt the pain at his ribs and saw the start of a flu, I think it was reassuring to see him get back to the main group after the decisive escape even though he had to drop further on. Let's not forget he was kept by the Jack Bauer crash (didn't know Bauer raced for Quick Step, by the way). I think he still can find back his best shape, if only for Paris-Roubaix which remains his best race.  :)
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #25 on: March 31, 2017, 18:27 »
    Golden Greg was front page of Het Laatste Nieuws last Saturday after his E3 Harelbeke win (after the Ghent-Wevelgem win too, even front page of De Morgen which is the least sport-friendly newspaper in Dutch-speaking Belgium) with the headline: "After Win in E3 Who Stops Van Avermaet in the Tour of Flanders?" (it's a bit bold I think)




    Front page of their sport supplement



    Lead group with Van Avermaet Gilbert and Naesen is lust for the eye


    If I have the time I might translated the article for you but I've been pretty busy and am pretty tired too.  ;)

    However apparently I have to screw up. Both Van Avermaet and Naesen admitted that there were no alliance between them despite them being friends from the same region and from the same training band that Greg founded (the "Parelvissers" or "Pearl Fishers"), that they race for two different teams after all and they find it perfectly normal. After all Greg did end up taking a turn from Phil just at the moment Ollie got back. "Ollie is big enough" said Greg.  :cool
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
    « Reply #26 on: March 31, 2017, 19:27 »
    However apparently I have to screw up. Both Van Avermaet and Naesen admitted that there were no alliance between them despite them being friends from the same region and from the same training band that Greg founded (the "Parelvissers" or "Pearl Fishers"), that they race for two different teams after all and they find it perfectly normal. After all Greg did end up taking a turn from Phil just at the moment Ollie got back. "Ollie is big enough" said Greg.  :cool
    Be that as it may ...

    If there's a trio of van Avermaet, Naesen and *insert third rider* in the very final on Sunday, I wouldn't be surprised if Greg & Oliver didn't chase each other down quite as viciously as they would that third rider. ;)
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    Re: E3 Harelbeke
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    Everybody’s Happy

    What will it give to the Tour of Flanders

    Two friends and two rivals for the win in the E3 Harelbeke. Even if they were with the three of them. Three Belgians on top of that. But Greg Van Avermaet, Philippe Gilbert and Oliver Naesen raced as hard as they could. Van Avermaet won and everybody was happy. Once more cycling was a pleasure for the eye. What will it become soon at the Tour of Flanders?

    By Marc Ghyselinck

    What for chemistry that must have been in the lead group with Greg Van Avermaet, Philippe Gilbert and Oliver Naesen? What stormed in the minds of the riders among whom only one could win? Greg Van Avermaet and Philippe Gilbert eventually liberated from the yoke of the marriage of convenience at BMC. Van Avermaet and Gilbert have always been opponents, whether teammates or not. Greg Van Avermaet and Oliver Naesen, then, friends and training partners. Oliver Naesen stands in front of a beautiful career. Van Avermaet has finally reached thetop and now he wants to win what can be won. Who favoured what to whom and what open calculation must have been raised? In a race you never know?

    But nothing has been raised, nothing showed to friendship service. It was everyone for himself and God against all. It was raised as though their lives depended on it. Van Avermaet for BMC, Gilbert for Quick Step, that is a relief. What has never succeeded in all these years – that they raced against each other and could decide between themselves who of the two of them was the better. That is what they wanted to know themselves now as well. Friendship between Van Avermaet and Naesen? That also knocks against a wall. Van Avermaet said he had a bad feeling when Gilbert attacked so hard on the Vossenhol [Tiegemberg] that Naesen dropped but two kilometers further he did not hesitate to attack himself just at the moment Naesen came back. For three kilometers Nasen made pout and refused to make his duty in the lead but then Naesen too went on racing.

    Cycling got even better from it yesterday. We had an exciting E3 Harelbeke and everybody was happy, spectators and riders. Naesen was rejoiced with his third place. Gilbert raced, lost and could live with it and Greg Van Avermaet was the winner. Finally in his tenth E3 Harelbeke in which he was just once on the podium before yesterday. In 2008 he was third.

    […]

    Het Laatste Nieuws gives some record. It’s the First time there’s an all-Belgian podium in the E3 Harelbeke since 1999 with:

    1 Peter Van Petegem
    2 Andrei Tchmil
    3 Frank Vandenbroucke

    However Andrei Tchmil is not really a Belgian with all respect so the last all Belgian top 3 in Harelbeke was in 1996

    1 Carlo Bomans
    2 Peter Van Petegem
    3 Wilfried Nelissen

    And the previous one dated back from 1982 !!

    1 Jan Bogaert
    2 Roger De Vlaeminck
    3 Daniel Willems

    And then you can see those riders who did the Omloop/E3 double.



    Van Avermaet (1st) & Naesen (3rd)
    Training Friends, Rivals in the Race


    Van Avermaet beat friend and foe yesterday in the E3 Harelbeke and that you can tak eliterally. He was too strong for Philippe Gilbert and defeated Oliver Naesen. Still the Olympic Champion bows to Peter Sagan even though the latter did not come up in yesterday’s race: “I’m still one step lower than Sagan”

    “‘Ollie’ is Big Enough”



    No time to translate the whole interviews but

    To the question “what a peculiar group that was one of your best friends and one of your biggest rivals?” Greg answered:
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    It was very special. I train with ‘Ollie’ everyday and we would have sprints together and I know how strong he is. I was glad he was along. For Phil it was a bit the same. It’s pleasant to race with him.

    And about “was it ever a matter of two against one, you with Naesen against Gilbert?”

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    No. Everybody races for himself. Naesen races for another team. He is big enough to race for himself. The business is separate. It was not really fun to take turn from Gilbert on the Tiegemberg on which he attacked so hard but that is just the race. I’m fighting with the means I have and I must go for my own chances. Going to finish with the two of us is better than with the three of us.[…] Just imagine that Gilbert is hesitating there. Then I’m riding alone away. Naesen and I get along very well. That is also the case between Gilbert and myself. We cannot give presents to each other. Ollie did not do that either. The way he started the sprint was for the win. We were all glad we were on the podium.

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    Philippe and I are the same type of riders. If I wanted to attack he also wanted to. As long as we were in the same team, I could not race behind him. That had not always been easy at BMC but Gilbert is still a great champion. It’s good to be in a breakaway with him. He always wants to make the racing.

    As you can see no sign of enmity between the two ;)

    Naesen with a big smile:

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    They asked me, will you sprint along? And I said “for sure and not just a bit”. I knew I was the lesser of the three. I could only hope that they would be staring at each other for too long. I was myself a bit squint-eyed but I wanted to risk it, to annoy them. I started but there was not much cut left but I wasn’t ridiculed. They only with 200m to go they caught me. I’ve sprinted 400 times against Greg and lost 400 times. Then you think “that sprint will perhaps be hard” (laughs)

    On the other hand Greg’s win makes “celebration complete”, for him and rates his performance just below his 2016 win in Plouay but above the 2nd place at the Lowlands Tour.

    About what happened on the Tiegemberg:

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    Greg took the turn quite well when I was dropped. I saw every colour of the rainbow there but that’s racing at the top. We are not in the same team.



    AG demands the article dedicated to Phil !!!  :P





    Gilbert:

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    What succeeded on Wednesday in Dwars door Vlaanderen after a great collective performance did not happen here. Second is nice but it’s not want our team is here for. We want to win

    The author Joeri De Knoop was struck by the first  person plural pronoun “We”. Fair and loyal to his team but yesterday it could easily  and decidedly has sounded ‘I want to win’.

    In September 2015 Het Laatste Nieuws made a dual interview between Boonen and Gilbert in Quebec. Boonen showed Gilbert that his athletic clock was running and if he wanted to fulfill his dream of winning all of the five monumental classics he needed to make urgent work for it. Boonen said:
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    The ‘new style’ Tour of Flanders is really a taylor-made route for you, Phil. In 2016 you can already be in contention for the win.

    Phil said he absolutely wanted to try and made an ultimatum to BMC. If he doesn’t have a strong supporting team he’s away. And so now he’s away. With a one-year delay. Lefevere played the game perfectly, let the erring wandering Walloon come, held him at his “correct maket price” (read heavily reduced) and put him back on track with a lucrative bonus system. Performing = cashing.

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    I was good. Shame that the finale was so easy. Nothing that could spark a decisive jump. The Tiegemberg, people who ride a bike know is false flat. You cannot create a gap there.

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    Everything is fine. I’ve worked hard the past few weeks. The team raced excellently in Milan-Sanremo but I could do much better myself. I changed my disappointment into motivation.


    Gilbert accepts being a leader for the Tour of Flanders but not exclusively because it’s dangerous to put pressure on just one leader. They should seek to get a numeric majority and bet on different horses.
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