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Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2017, 18:24 »
Stage 2

Purple points

The only expensive sprinter who was picked much was Gaviria, but his teams will be expecting more pf a return from him than he seems to be on course for thus far.  The lower budget sprinters will be outsiders to get any points at all, but on days like today, they can do it.

GREIPEL André   88   0   team
FERRARI Roberto   40   1   team (AG)
STUYVEN Jasper   25   1   team  (Silver Grenade)
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   15   8   teams
SBARAGLI Kristian   10   1   team  (Josedin)
BATTAGLIN Enrico   7   1   team (Armchair Cyclist)
GIBBONS Ryan   5   0   team
THOMAS Geraint   3   10   teams
EWAN Caleb   2   0   team
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   1   0   team

1   AG   40 (Ferrari)
2=   Josedin   25 (Gaviria + Sbaragli)
2=   SilverGrenade   25 (Stuyven)
4   BluesInTheBottle   18 (Gaviria + Thomas)
5   LightBing, Hakkie2, GPBlanco, Trudgin, Fauniera, Joelsim   15 (Gaviria)
11   Armchair_Cyclist   10 (Battaglin + Thomas)
12   Kazistuta, Minessa, Tych23, ChrisDK, DJW, Russell2, Spokenspin, Leadbelly   3 (Thomas)
 The rest drew a blank today

Standings

1   JustSomeGuy   88
2   AG   40
3   Josedin   32
4   SilverGrenade   30
5   LightBing   25
6   BluesInTheBottle   18
7   Hakkie2   15
7   GPBlanco   15
7   Trudgin   15
7   Fauniera   15
7   Joelsim   15
12   Search   12
13   Armchair_Cyclist   10
13   Torcia86   10
13   Scrool07   10
16   Kazistuta   4
17   Minessa   3
17   Tych23   3
17   ChrisDK   3
17   DJW   3
17   Russell23   3
17   Spokenspin   3
17   Leadbelly   3
24   Vladimir   2
24   ThePirate81   2
26   Yellow_Knight   1


Pink points

Gains on the day
GREIPEL André   333pts   0 team
FERRARI Roberto   285   1
STUYVEN Jasper   105   1
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   63   8
TEKLEHAIMANOT Daniel Girmazion   60   0
THOMAS Geraint   53   10
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   51   0
NIBALI Vincenzo   48   26
BATTAGLIN Enrico   46   1
MONTAGUTI Matteo   43   1
VILLELLA Davide   39   0
POZZOVIVO Domenico   34   7
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   32   1
KOREN Kristjan   32   0
YATES Adam   30   9
PONZI Simone   30   9

and the main losses:
BENEDETTI Cesare   -30pts   1 team
TSATEVICH Alexei   -35   0
ZHUPA Eugert   -47   0
BARBIN Enrico   -56   0
MARECZKO Jakub   -63   0
BRUTT Pavel   -71   0
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   -75   0
MÜHLBERGER Gregor   -82   0
EWAN Caleb   -83   0
BAUHAUS Phil   -105   2
BENNETT Sam   -120   3
MODOLO Sacha   -127   4
PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   -163   1
NIZZOLO Giacomo   -230   0

And the effect on our teams:
1   AG   388
2   Minessa   186
3   BluesInTheBottle   181
3   ChrisDK   181
5   GPBlanco   178
6   SilverGrenade   176
7   Armchair_Cyclist   168
8   Fauniera   166
9   Hakkie2   163
10   Russell23   143
11   GodChild   138
12   Hugo87   137
12   AmisVelo   137
14   Josedin   126
15   GeraintTooFast   125
15   SafeBet   125
17   Trudgin   124
17   Rote_Laterne   124
19   Del1962   121
20   DJW   115
21   Joelsim   113
22   Leadbelly   112
22   Crevaison   112
24   Tych23   103
25   Shalgo   99
26   Spokenspin   98
27   Carlo_Algatrensig   93
28   Comodoro   84
29   SemirS   81
30   Squire   80
31   Kabete   75
32   BicycleBoy   61
33   Flo   59
34   Laarsland   50
35   Jakob747   48
35   LosBrolin   48
37   Mellow_Velo   33
38   ThePirate81   14
39   LightBing   -9
40   Torcia86   -17
41   Kazistuta   -20
42   Vladimir   -38
43   Scrool07   -44
44   JustSomeGuy   -58
45   Yellow_Knight   -83
46   Search   -129
   Collective_Wisdom   94


And so the standings, very volatile and rather meaningless at this stage:

1   JustSomeGuy   823
2   AG   607
3   Josedin   541
4   SilverGrenade   531
5   BluesInTheBottle   510
6   Minessa   499
7   Armchair_Cyclist   486
8   LightBing   458
9   GPBlanco   449
9   Hakkie2   449
11   ChrisDK   443
12   Torcia86   428
13   Fauniera   421
14   Kazistuta   401
15   Search   398
16   Tych23   394
17   Trudgin   389
18   Hugo87   381
19   AmisVelo   370
20   ThePirate81   369
21   Russell23   364
22   Scrool07   361
23   Joelsim   354
24   GeraintTooFast   347
24   SafeBet   347
26   GodChild   345
26   Crevaison   345
28   DJW   344
29   SemirS   343
30   Rote_Laterne   339
31   Shalgo   337
32   Vladimir   334
33   Del1962   314
33   Spokenspin   314
35   Leadbelly   308
36   Carlo_Algatrensig   286
36   Comodoro   286
38   Mellow_Velo   276
39   Squire   271
40   Jakob747   239
41   BicycleBoy   235
42   Kabete   216
43   Flo   200
43   Laarsland   200
43   LosBrolin   200
46   Yellow_Knight   189
   Collective_Wisdom   276

Sprinters already dominate the GC, and riders high in GC are unlikely to be left far behind on a flat course, so I suspect that there will be fewer dramatic changes tomorrow.  On Tuesday, however...
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #31 on: May 07, 2017, 03:02 »
     :D
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #32 on: May 07, 2017, 18:47 »
    Stage 3 Boring flat stages can get interesting in the end

    This is why 8 teams thought that Gaviria might be worth a price higher than some GC contenders.  If he can stay in pink fro three more weeks, they will definitely be right, but given that that won't happen, he will be expected to do more on future stages.

    Purple Points
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   88   8   teams
    SELIG Rüdiger   40   0   team
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   25   0   team
    HAAS Nathan   15   0   team
    RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel   10   0   team
    SIUTSOU Kanstantsin   7   0   team
    JUNGELS Bob   5   3   teams
    EWAN Caleb   3   0   team
    MODOLO Sacha   2   4   teams
    GREIPEL André   1   0   team

    1   LightBing   90 (Gaviria and Modolo)
    2=   BluesInTheBottle, Fauniera, GPBlanco, Hakkie2, Joelsim, Josedin, Trudgin   88 (Gaviria)
    9=   Kazistuta, Mellow_Velo, SemirS   5 (Jungels)
    12=   Scrool07, Search, Torcia86   2 (Modolo)

    Standings:
    1   Josedin   120
    2   LightBing   115
    3   BluesInTheBottle   106
    4   Fauniera   103
    4   GPBlanco   103
    4   Hakkie2   103
    4   Joelsim   103
    4   Trudgin   103
    9   JustSomeGuy   88
    10   AG   40
    11   SilverGrenade   30
    12   Search   14
    13   Scrool07   12
    13   Torcia86   12
    15   Armchair_Cyclist   10
    16   Kazistuta   9
    17   Mellow_Velo   5
    17   SemirS   5
    19   ChrisDK   3
    19   DJW   3
    19   Leadbelly   3
    19   Minessa   3
    19   Russell23   3
    19   Spokenspin   3
    19   Tych23   3
    26   ThePirate81   2
    26   Vladimir   2
    28   Yellow_Knight   1

    Pink Points

    On the day  (but omitting riders that were not selected):
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   +461pts   8   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   214   3   teams
    MODOLO Sacha   47   4   teams
    YATES Adam   26   9   teams
    KONRAD Patrick   24   4   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   22   7   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   20   13   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   20   4   teams
    MONFORT Maxime   20   1   team
    FORMOLO Davide   17   6   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   17   25   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   16   42   teams
    BATTAGLIN Enrico   15   1   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   15   1   teams
    ...
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   -80   1   team
    FERRARI Roberto   -81   1   team
    PONZI Simone   -81   9   teams
    SBARAGLI Kristian   -170   1   team
    STUYVEN Jasper   -226   1   teams

    1   LightBing   563
    2   Fauniera   516
    3   BluesInTheBottle   513
    4   Joelsim   512
    5   GPBlanco   509
    5   Hakkie2   509
    7   Trudgin   489
    8   Josedin   332
    9   Mellow_Velo   270
    10   SemirS   264
    11   Kazistuta   238
    12   Kabete   100
    13   Scrool07   89
    14   Search   78
    15   Comodoro   75
    16   Rote_Laterne   74
    17   BicycleBoy   71
    17   Carlo_Algatrensig   71
    17   LosBrolin   71
    20   DJW   70
    20   Russell23   70
    22   Jakob747   69
    23   Flo   68
    23   Laarsland   68
    25   GodChild   63
    25   Squire   63
    25   Tych23   63
    28   ChrisDK   60
    29   GeraintTooFast   59
    29   Spokenspin   59
    31   Del1962   54
    32   SafeBet   50
    33   Armchair_Cyclist   47
    34   Leadbelly   44
    35   Yellow_Knight   33
    36   Torcia86   23
    37   Hugo87   -7
    38   Minessa   -18
    39   AmisVelo   -20
    40   Crevaison   -22
    41   Vladimir   -25
    42   AG   -27
    43   ThePirate81   -43
    44   Shalgo   -71
    45   JustSomeGuy   -106
    46   SilverGrenade   -142
       Collective_Wisdom   56

    Standings

    The leader for the first 2 days, Just Some Guy, drops behind the 8 Gaviria teams to 9th, but it is those Jungels owners that were lower in the table that have the biggest rises today.

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1023
    2   LightBing   1021
    3   GPBlanco   958
    3   Hakkie2   958
    5   Fauniera   937
    6   Trudgin   878
    7   Josedin   873
    8   Joelsim   866
    9   JustSomeGuy   717
    10   Kazistuta   639
    11   SemirS   607
    12   AG   580
    13   Mellow_Velo   546
    14   Armchair_Cyclist   533
    15   ChrisDK   503
    16   Minessa   481
    17   Search   476
    18   Tych23   457
    19   Torcia86   451
    20   Scrool07   450
    21   Russell23   434
    22   DJW   414
    23   Rote_Laterne   413
    24   GodChild   408
    25   GeraintTooFast   406
    26   SafeBet   397
    27   SilverGrenade   389
    28   Hugo87   374
    29   Spokenspin   373
    30   Del1962   368
    31   Comodoro   361
    32   Carlo_Algatrensig   357
    33   Leadbelly   352
    34   AmisVelo   350
    35   Squire   334
    36   ThePirate81   326
    37   Crevaison   323
    38   Kabete   316
    39   Vladimir   309
    40   Jakob747   308
    41   BicycleBoy   306
    42   LosBrolin   271
    43   Flo   268
    43   Laarsland   268
    45   Shalgo   266
    46   Yellow_Knight   222
       Collective_Wisdom   332


    Unless there is an eruption of Etna, causing a cancellation or curtailment, we can confidently predict an eruption in this table on Tuesday.

    Nice of them to have a day off on the Monday following a first Sunday: I might be able to get some or all editions of the Emerging Riders games update done on the "rest day".

    If you are stuck for how to use your cycling-watching time on rest day, you can peruse the spreadsheet here.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #33 on: May 08, 2017, 07:36 »
    Pretty happy with my start so far
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #34 on: May 09, 2017, 07:47 »
    So today is when the game begins to take shape.

    In most editions of the GT games, the race winner is an absolute must have if he gets the leaders jersey early.  In this edition, price differences are such that by eschewing the favourite to win, it was possible to get three or four (because Landa is so cheap) podium contenders.

    I was pleased to see that one team did go for the Quintana/Landa/makeweights option (thanks Shalgo).  If, as some expect, Quintana wins by a big margin today, he is headed for not only 500 pts for winning GC, but also a massive 306 accumulated pink jersey wearer points (equivalent to somewhere between 3rd and 4th in GC).  Then Landa's performance becomes key: his ubiquity means he takes the tactical role of the teammate of a KoM jersey contender's teammate takeing points at a pass so that no-one else can get them.  If Quintana were to take an unsurmountable grip on GC today (I don't particularly expect it myself, but some do), and Landa ends up 2nd on GC, then it will require 3rd, 4th and 5th from another Landa owning team to cancel that out.  And that leaves the non-Shalgo team only 5 other riders, as opposed to Shalgo's 7, to get other points.  If Landa is below 3rd in final GC, then 2nd, 3rd and 10th would be enough to cancel out Quintana, but that is still a set of results most of us won't get, or even get near to.

    Now I put it like that, perhaps I should have gone for Quintana after all.

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #35 on: May 09, 2017, 08:00 »
    Sure that could happen but I don´t expect it

    Nibali and Bahrain will set down a big marker today, and I expect Landa to attack early and be dragged back and spat out the back, with G being the sky leader from here on
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #36 on: May 09, 2017, 08:59 »
    and then G getting dumped on the Stelvio in week 3   :lol
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #37 on: May 09, 2017, 09:58 »
    and then G getting dumped on the Stelvio in week 3   :lol

    was thinking on the Blockhaus but sure  :D
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #38 on: May 09, 2017, 09:58 »
    Sure that could happen but I don´t expect it

    Nibali and Bahrain will set down a big marker today, and I expect Landa to attack early and be dragged back and spat out the back, with G being the sky leader from here on

    Nibali not due to do anything decent until stage 19, at which point he'll ride everyone into submission and regain the 12 minutes he is behind at that point.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #39 on: May 09, 2017, 10:00 »
    Realistically Quintana and Landa have to make time on all these ascents over the likes of Dumo and G. Otherwise they'll be struggling to make up time after the first ITT with another one to come. Dumo could put 5+ minutes into Landa over the two ITTs and probably not far off that with Nairo.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #40 on: May 09, 2017, 10:02 »
    Stage 3 Boring flat stages can get interesting in the end

    This is why 8 teams thought that Gaviria might be worth a price higher than some GC contenders.  If he can stay in pink fro three more weeks, they will definitely be right, but given that that won't happen, he will be expected to do more on future stages.

    Purple Points
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   88   8   teams
    SELIG Rüdiger   40   0   team
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   25   0   team
    HAAS Nathan   15   0   team
    RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel   10   0   team
    SIUTSOU Kanstantsin   7   0   team
    JUNGELS Bob   5   3   teams
    EWAN Caleb   3   0   team
    MODOLO Sacha   2   4   teams
    GREIPEL André   1   0   team

    1   LightBing   90 (Gaviria and Modolo)
    2=   BluesInTheBottle, Fauniera, GPBlanco, Hakkie2, Joelsim, Josedin, Trudgin   88 (Gaviria)
    9=   Kazistuta, Mellow_Velo, SemirS   5 (Jungels)
    12=   Scrool07, Search, Torcia86   2 (Modolo)

    Standings:
    1   Josedin   120
    2   LightBing   115
    3   BluesInTheBottle   106
    4   Fauniera   103
    4   GPBlanco   103
    4   Hakkie2   103
    4   Joelsim   103
    4   Trudgin   103
    9   JustSomeGuy   88
    10   AG   40
    11   SilverGrenade   30
    12   Search   14
    13   Scrool07   12
    13   Torcia86   12
    15   Armchair_Cyclist   10
    16   Kazistuta   9
    17   Mellow_Velo   5
    17   SemirS   5
    19   ChrisDK   3
    19   DJW   3
    19   Leadbelly   3
    19   Minessa   3
    19   Russell23   3
    19   Spokenspin   3
    19   Tych23   3
    26   ThePirate81   2
    26   Vladimir   2
    28   Yellow_Knight   1

    Pink Points

    On the day  (but omitting riders that were not selected):
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   +461pts   8   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   214   3   teams
    MODOLO Sacha   47   4   teams
    YATES Adam   26   9   teams
    KONRAD Patrick   24   4   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   22   7   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   20   13   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   20   4   teams
    MONFORT Maxime   20   1   team
    FORMOLO Davide   17   6   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   17   25   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   16   42   teams
    BATTAGLIN Enrico   15   1   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   15   1   teams
    ...
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   -80   1   team
    FERRARI Roberto   -81   1   team
    PONZI Simone   -81   9   teams
    SBARAGLI Kristian   -170   1   team
    STUYVEN Jasper   -226   1   teams

    1   LightBing   563
    2   Fauniera   516
    3   BluesInTheBottle   513
    4   Joelsim   512
    5   GPBlanco   509
    5   Hakkie2   509
    7   Trudgin   489
    8   Josedin   332
    9   Mellow_Velo   270
    10   SemirS   264
    11   Kazistuta   238
    12   Kabete   100
    13   Scrool07   89
    14   Search   78
    15   Comodoro   75
    16   Rote_Laterne   74
    17   BicycleBoy   71
    17   Carlo_Algatrensig   71
    17   LosBrolin   71
    20   DJW   70
    20   Russell23   70
    22   Jakob747   69
    23   Flo   68
    23   Laarsland   68
    25   GodChild   63
    25   Squire   63
    25   Tych23   63
    28   ChrisDK   60
    29   GeraintTooFast   59
    29   Spokenspin   59
    31   Del1962   54
    32   SafeBet   50
    33   Armchair_Cyclist   47
    34   Leadbelly   44
    35   Yellow_Knight   33
    36   Torcia86   23
    37   Hugo87   -7
    38   Minessa   -18
    39   AmisVelo   -20
    40   Crevaison   -22
    41   Vladimir   -25
    42   AG   -27
    43   ThePirate81   -43
    44   Shalgo   -71
    45   JustSomeGuy   -106
    46   SilverGrenade   -142
       Collective_Wisdom   56

    Standings

    The leader for the first 2 days, Just Some Guy, drops behind the 8 Gaviria teams to 9th, but it is those Jungels owners that were lower in the table that have the biggest rises today.

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1023
    2   LightBing   1021
    3   GPBlanco   958
    3   Hakkie2   958
    5   Fauniera   937
    6   Trudgin   878
    7   Josedin   873
    8   Joelsim   866
    9   JustSomeGuy   717
    10   Kazistuta   639
    11   SemirS   607
    12   AG   580
    13   Mellow_Velo   546
    14   Armchair_Cyclist   533
    15   ChrisDK   503
    16   Minessa   481
    17   Search   476
    18   Tych23   457
    19   Torcia86   451
    20   Scrool07   450
    21   Russell23   434
    22   DJW   414
    23   Rote_Laterne   413
    24   GodChild   408
    25   GeraintTooFast   406
    26   SafeBet   397
    27   SilverGrenade   389
    28   Hugo87   374
    29   Spokenspin   373
    30   Del1962   368
    31   Comodoro   361
    32   Carlo_Algatrensig   357
    33   Leadbelly   352
    34   AmisVelo   350
    35   Squire   334
    36   ThePirate81   326
    37   Crevaison   323
    38   Kabete   316
    39   Vladimir   309
    40   Jakob747   308
    41   BicycleBoy   306
    42   LosBrolin   271
    43   Flo   268
    43   Laarsland   268
    45   Shalgo   266
    46   Yellow_Knight   222
       Collective_Wisdom   332


    Unless there is an eruption of Etna, causing a cancellation or curtailment, we can confidently predict an eruption in this table on Tuesday.

    Nice of them to have a day off on the Monday following a first Sunday: I might be able to get some or all editions of the Emerging Riders games update done on the "rest day".

    If you are stuck for how to use your cycling-watching time on rest day, you can peruse the spreadsheet here.

    So, out of 8 Gaviria teams I am 8th.

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #41 on: May 09, 2017, 11:00 »
    The way the scoring system for this game works is a mystery to me. Only thing I can tell is that I'm near the bottom of the ranking :?
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #42 on: May 09, 2017, 11:03 »
    The way the scoring system for this game works is a mystery to me. Only thing I can tell is that I'm near the bottom of the ranking :?

    1st few stages are always a mess

    Guaranteed points - you get this

    Then AC does projection points if the race finished now ( current GC ) , the minus or plus next to your name is your ride and fall from the previous stage 
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #43 on: May 09, 2017, 11:25 »
    1st few stages are always a mess

    Guaranteed points - you get this

    Then AC does projection points if the race finished now ( current GC ) , the minus or plus next to your name is your ride and fall from the previous stage
    Right - so in a few days I'll be on top as I have no sprinters :lol

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    2nd thought who scored the few points I have :?
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #44 on: May 09, 2017, 20:39 »
    As of this morning, you had 25 pts in the mountains category for Fraile standing in third in that; between 22 and 58 GC points for those of your riders who had finished in the main bunch each day, and were between 23rd and 44th; and your 4 remaining riders, no matter how much time they have lost, have 15 GC points each. 
    Did the dropbox link to the spreadsheet not work?

    But I am about to put in today's results, so things will be very different: sprinters' projected GC points will drop dramatically, and contenders will hoover them up.  But there will still be little to read into the order between them.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #45 on: May 09, 2017, 22:35 »
    Stage 4 Mt Etna

    Purple Points

    Although we saw no-one trying to break the race apart, we do have the riders who are more likely to be worth investment higher in the field, so at least a few points for nearly everyone.

    POLANC Jan   70pts   2   teams (Jakob747 and Vladimir)
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   40   19   teams
    THOMAS Geraint   25   10   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   23   3   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   15   13   teams
    CATALDO Dario   10   3   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   7   1   team
    YATES Adam   3   9   teams
    MOLLEMA Bauke   2   0   team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   1   26   teams

    1   Jakob747   128 (Polanc, Zakarin, Pinot and Yates)
    2   Leadbelly   90 (Zakarin, Thomas, Pinot, Cataldo)
    3   Vladimir   71 (Polanc, Nibali)
    4   DJW   68  (Zakarin, Thomas, Yates)
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   66 (Zakarin, Thomas, Nibali)
    6   Russell23   65 (Zakarin, Thomas: ditto for next 2 teams)
    6   Spokenspin   65
    6   Tych23   65
    9   Crevaison   56
    10   Flo   55
    10   Laarsland   55
    10   LosBrolin   55
    13   Kazistuta   49
    14   SafeBet   44
    15   BicycleBoy   43
    15   SilverGrenade   43
    17   AG   41
    17   Scrool07   41
    17   Squire   41
    20   Joelsim   40
    20   Josedin   40
    22   BluesInTheBottle   28
    23   ChrisDK   26
    23   Mellow_Velo   26
    23   Minessa   26
    26   SemirS   24
    27   AmisVelo   16
    27   Del1962   16
    27   Hugo87   16
    27   JustSomeGuy   16
    27   Trudgin   16
    32   Fauniera   15
    32   Kabete   15
    34   GodChild   11
    35   Shalgo   10
    36   Yellow_Knight   7
    37   GeraintTooFast   4
    37   Rote_Laterne   4
    39   Carlo_Algatrensig   1
    39   Comodoro   1
    39   GPBlanco   1
    39   Hakkie2   1
    39   Search   1
    39   ThePirate81   1
    39   Torcia86   1
    46   LightBing   0
       Collective_Wisdom   41

    Finally, we are all off the mark:
    1   Josedin   160
    2   Joelsim   143
    3   BluesInTheBottle   134
    4   Jakob747   128
    5   Trudgin   119
    6   Fauniera   118
    7   LightBing   115
    8   GPBlanco   104
    8   Hakkie2   104
    8   JustSomeGuy   104
    11   Leadbelly   93
    12   AG   81
    13   Armchair_Cyclist   76
    14   SilverGrenade   73
    14   Vladimir   73
    16   DJW   71
    17   Russell23   68
    17   Spokenspin   68
    17   Tych23   68
    20   Kazistuta   58
    21   Crevaison   56
    22   Flo   55
    22   Laarsland   55
    22   LosBrolin   55
    25   Scrool07   53
    26   SafeBet   44
    27   BicycleBoy   43
    28   Squire   41
    29   Mellow_Velo   31
    30   ChrisDK   29
    30   Minessa   29
    30   SemirS   29
    33   AmisVelo   16
    33   Del1962   16
    33   Hugo87   16
    36   Kabete   15
    36   Search   15
    38   Torcia86   13
    39   GodChild   11
    40   Shalgo   10
    41   Yellow_Knight   8
    42   GeraintTooFast   4
    42   Rote_Laterne   4
    44   ThePirate81   3
    45   Carlo_Algatrensig   1
    45   Comodoro   1
       Collective_Wisdom   41

    Pink Points

    Creamy substances float to near the top, but it might be a while until the real cream gets there: huge changes
    THOMAS Geraint   +290 pts   10   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   258   3   teams
    YATES Adam   214   9   teams
    POLANC Jan   195   2   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   154   26   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   144   7   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   138   19   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   137   1   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   127   1   team
    PINOT Thibaut   107   13   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   92   42   teams
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   70   13   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   66   4   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   62   6   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   58   25   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   54   1   team
    CATALDO Dario   53   3   teams
    KANGERT Tanel   52   10   teams
    PETILLI Simone   51   2   teams
    ...
    KONRAD Patrick   -45   4   teams
    MODOLO Sacha   -120   4   teams
    BATTAGLIN Enrico   -135   1   team
    FERRARI Roberto   -175   1   team
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   -305   1   team
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   -485   8   teams

    Three non-finishers and a disqualification today, but none of them were selected for the game.

    Gains and losses:
    The teams that have a lot of sprinters, and especially Gaviria, take a big hit, otherwise it has been a day to rake in the points.
    1   Kazistuta   807 (Thomas, Jungels, Nibali, Landa)
    2   DJW   800 (Thomas, Yates, Zakarin, Landa, Amador)
    3   Russell23   756 (Thomas, Pozzovivo, Zakarin, Landa, Formolo, Kangert)
    4   Jakob747   746
    5   Minessa   738
    6   Leadbelly   685
    7   Tych23   667
    8   Mellow_Velo   652
    9   SafeBet   627
    10   SemirS   610
    11   BicycleBoy   584
    12   Vladimir   558
    13   Armchair_Cyclist   552
    13   GeraintTooFast   552
    15   Rote_Laterne   548
    16   Crevaison   543
    17   ChrisDK   540
    18   Squire   534
    19   GodChild   514
    20   Hugo87   489
    20   Spokenspin   489
    22   Comodoro   488
    23   SilverGrenade   468
    24   LosBrolin   465
    25   Carlo_Algatrensig   454
    26   Laarsland   452
    27   Flo   425
    28   Kabete   407
    29   Del1962   405
    30   AmisVelo   404
    31   ThePirate81   357
    32   AG   353
    33   Scrool07   334
    34   Torcia86   298
    35   Yellow_Knight   267
    36   Shalgo   260
    37   Search   204
    38   BluesInTheBottle   181
    39   JustSomeGuy   84
    40   GPBlanco   -108
    41   Fauniera   -134
    42   Joelsim   -140
    43   Josedin   -208
    44   Trudgin   -218
    45   Hakkie2   -261
    46   LightBing   -311
       Collective_Wisdom   472


    Standings
    Yesterday's standings are reduced to irrelevance: of that top ten, only 2 are in the top ten today(yesterday's leader is now 5th, today's was 10th), and 4 are in the bottom ten.  23 teams have a double digit move (Jakob's 30 place rise being the best), and only the two teams at the bottom are in the same places as when they left Sardinia.

    1   Kazistuta   1446
    2   Minessa   1219
    3   SemirS   1217
    4   DJW   1214
    5   BluesInTheBottle   1204
    6   Mellow_Velo   1198
    7   Russell23   1190
    8   Tych23   1124
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1085
    10   Jakob747   1054
    11   ChrisDK   1043
    12   Leadbelly   1037
    13   SafeBet   1024
    14   Rote_Laterne   961
    15   GeraintTooFast   958
    16   AG   933
    17   GodChild   922
    18   BicycleBoy   890
    19   Squire   868
    20   Vladimir   867
    21   Crevaison   866
    22   Hugo87   863
    23   Spokenspin   862
    24   SilverGrenade   857
    25   GPBlanco   850
    26   Comodoro   849
    27   Carlo_Algatrensig   811
    28   Fauniera   803
    29   JustSomeGuy   801
    30   Scrool07   784
    31   Del1962   773
    32   AmisVelo   754
    33   Torcia86   749
    34   LosBrolin   736
    35   Joelsim   726
    36   Kabete   723
    37   Laarsland   720
    38   LightBing   710
    39   Hakkie2   697
    40   Flo   693
    41   ThePirate81   683
    42   Search   680
    43   Josedin   665
    44   Trudgin   660
    45   Shalgo   526
    46   Yellow_Knight   489
       Collective_Wisdom   804

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #46 on: May 10, 2017, 22:26 »
    Stage 5  Race to the ferry

    I haven't watched yet: might get a chance to later but I get the impression I haven't missed anything.

    Purple points
    Mainly lower profile sprinters in the top ten, who are therefore more affordable and more frequently chosen.  And Gaviria, who is getting close to justifying the big outlay that some have spent on him.  He already has enough guaranteed points to be better than 8th in GC (if that rider were to get no more than 7 stage points).

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   70pts   8   teams
    MARECZKO Jakub   40   0   team
    BENNETT Sam   25   3   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   18   3   teams
    GREIPEL André   15   0   team
    BAUHAUS Phil   10   2   teams
    SBARAGLI Kristian   7   1   team
    GIBBONS Ryan   5   0   team
    FERRARI Roberto   3   1   team
    STUYVEN Jasper   2   1   team
    BATTAGLIN Enrico   1   1   team

    You should be able to work out who has who from the scores
    1   Josedin   77
    2   BluesInTheBottle   70
    2   Fauniera   70
    2   GPBlanco   70
    2   Hakkie2   70
    2   Joelsim   70
    2   LightBing   70
    2   Trudgin   70
    9   Kazistuta   28
    10   Search   25
    10   ThePirate81   25
    10   Vladimir   25
    13   Mellow_Velo   18
    13   SemirS   18
    15   Yellow_Knight   10
    16   AG   3
    17   SilverGrenade   2
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   1

    Gaviria teams dominate, and probably will for some time:
    1   Josedin   237
    2   Joelsim   213
    3   BluesInTheBottle   204
    4   Trudgin   189
    5   Fauniera   188
    6   LightBing   185
    7   GPBlanco   174
    7   Hakkie2   174
    9   Jakob747   128
    10   JustSomeGuy   104
    11   Vladimir   98
    12   Leadbelly   93
    13   Kazistuta   86
    14   AG   84
    15   Armchair_Cyclist   77
    16   SilverGrenade   75
    17   DJW   71
    18   Russell23   68
    18   Spokenspin   68
    18   Tych23   68
    21   Crevaison   56
    22   Flo   55
    22   Laarsland   55
    22   LosBrolin   55
    25   Scrool07   53
    26   Mellow_Velo   49
    27   SemirS   47
    28   SafeBet   44
    29   BicycleBoy   43
    30   Squire   41
    31   Search   40
    32   ChrisDK   29
    32   Minessa   29
    34   ThePirate81   28
    35   Yellow_Knight   18
    36   AmisVelo   16
    36   Del1962   16
    36   Hugo87   16
    39   Kabete   15
    40   Torcia86   13
    41   GodChild   11
    42   Shalgo   10
    43   GeraintTooFast   4
    43   Rote_Laterne   4
    45   Carlo_Algatrensig   1
    45   Comodoro   1
       Collective_Wisdom   41


    Pink Points

    Rider changes
    The bunch of riders from 3rd to 13th on the same time mean that there will be variations in total finish position determined standings, so changes in points with no real change in race status. 

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   115   8   teams
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   30   13   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   25   7   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   25   1   team
    BENNETT Sam   25   3   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   23   4   teams
    ...
    PINOT Thibaut   -15   13   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -25   26   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -25   1   team
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   -38   42   teams


    Changes
    1   BluesInTheBottle   107
    1   Joelsim   107
    3   LightBing   102
    4   Josedin   94
    5   Fauniera   85
    6   Trudgin   76
    7   GPBlanco   74
    8   Hakkie2   53
    9   Yellow_Knight   33
    10   Spokenspin   30
    11   SilverGrenade   1
    12   Search   -10
    13   JustSomeGuy   -12
    14   Russell23   -13
    14   Tych23   -13
    16   DJW   -15
    16   SemirS   -15
    18   Mellow_Velo   -22
    19   LosBrolin   -23
    20   Hugo87   -25
    21   Kabete   -30
    22   Carlo_Algatrensig   -32
    23   Comodoro   -33
    23   Scrool07   -33
    25   AG   -34
    26   Kazistuta   -35
    27   Vladimir   -37
    28   Minessa   -38
    29   GodChild   -39
    30   BicycleBoy   -40
    30   ThePirate81   -40
    32   Del1962   -47
    33   Flo   -53
    33   Jakob747   -53
    33   Laarsland   -53
    33   Leadbelly   -53
    37   Armchair_Cyclist   -62
    37   ChrisDK   -62
    37   GeraintTooFast   -62
    40   Rote_Laterne   -63
    40   SafeBet   -63
    40   Shalgo   -63
    40   Torcia86   -63
    44   Squire   -65
    45   AmisVelo   -78
    45   Crevaison   -78
       Collective_Wisdom   -63

    Standings
    The only Gaviria team in the top ten is the most significant change, up three places to 2nd.  4 of his fellow Gavirists have 11 place rises, but far enough down the table to not draw much attention.

    1   Kazistuta   1411
    2   BluesInTheBottle   1311
    3   SemirS   1202
    4   DJW   1199
    5   Minessa   1181
    6   Russell23   1177
    7   Mellow_Velo   1176
    8   Tych23   1111
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1023
    10   Jakob747   1001
    11   Leadbelly   984
    12   ChrisDK   981
    13   SafeBet   961
    14   GPBlanco   924
    15   AG   899
    16   Rote_Laterne   898
    17   GeraintTooFast   896
    18   Spokenspin   892
    19   Fauniera   888
    20   GodChild   883
    21   SilverGrenade   858
    22   BicycleBoy   850
    23   Hugo87   838
    24   Joelsim   833
    25   Vladimir   830
    26   Comodoro   816
    27   LightBing   812
    28   Squire   803
    29   JustSomeGuy   789
    30   Crevaison   788
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   779
    32   Josedin   759
    33   Scrool07   751
    34   Hakkie2   750
    35   Trudgin   736
    36   Del1962   726
    37   LosBrolin   713
    38   Kabete   693
    39   Torcia86   686
    40   AmisVelo   676
    41   Search   670
    42   Laarsland   667
    43   ThePirate81   643
    44   Flo   640
    45   Yellow_Knight   522
    46   Shalgo   463
       Collective_Wisdom   741

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #47 on: May 11, 2017, 18:30 »
    Stage 6 Breakaway on the mainland

    Purple points
    Most of us have some picks in whom our hoes are for a breakaway: most won't work out, but some do.

    DILLIER Silvan   70   0   team
    STUYVEN Jasper   40   1   team
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   25   1   team
    JUNGELS Bob   21   3   teams
    ANDREETTA Simone   15   1   team
    WOODS Michael   10   2   teams
    YATES Adam   7   9   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   5   1   team
    MOLLEMA Bauke   2   0   team
    THOMAS Geraint   1   10   teams

    1   SilverGrenade   47
    2   Mellow_Velo   28
    3   JustSomeGuy   25
    4   Kazistuta   22
    5   SemirS   21
    6   Joelsim   15
    7   Hakkie2   10
    7   ThePirate81   10
    9   BluesInTheBottle   8
    9   DJW   8
    11   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast, Jakob747, Rote_Laterne, SafeBet   7
    16   Vladimir   5
    17   Armchair_Cyclist, ChrisDK, Leadbelly, Minessa   , Russell23, Spokenspin, Tych23   1

    Standings (those 100 pts +)
    1   Josedin   237
    2   Joelsim   228
    3   BluesInTheBottle   212
    4   Trudgin   189
    5   Fauniera   188
    6   LightBing   185
    7   Hakkie2   184
    8   GPBlanco   174
    9   Jakob747   135
    10   JustSomeGuy   129
    11   SilverGrenade   122
    12   Kazistuta   108
    13   Vladimir   103

    Pink points

    STUYVEN Jasper   70   1   team
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   36   1   team
    ANDREETTA Simone   25   1   team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   25   26   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   25   1   team
    JUNGELS Bob   21   3   teams
    WOODS Michael   12   2   teams
    ...
    ROLLAND Pierre   -10   9   teams
    SBARAGLI Kristian   -15   1   team
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   -25   7   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   -25   1   team

    1   SilverGrenade   83
    2   JustSomeGuy   59
    3   SemirS   45
    4   Kazistuta   44
    5   Hakkie2   42
    6   Rote_Laterne   31
    6   SafeBet   31
    8   ChrisDK   26
    8   Shalgo   26
    8   ThePirate81   26
    11   Carlo_Algatrensig   25
    11   Comodoro   25
    11   GeraintTooFast   25
    11   Joelsim   25
    11   Scrool07   25
    16   Torcia86   24
    16   Trudgin   24
    16   Vladimir   24
    19   Armchair_Cyclist   23
    19   Crevaison   23
    19   Hugo87   23
    22   AmisVelo   22
    23   Mellow_Velo   18
    24   Del1962   17
    25   Squire   15
    26   Search   14
    27   GPBlanco   8
    28   BluesInTheBottle   5
    28   DJW   5
    28   Jakob747   5
    31   Spokenspin   3
    32   Kabete   1
    32   Laarsland   1
    32   Leadbelly   1
    35   AG   -2
    35   LosBrolin   -2
    35   Minessa   -2
    38   BicycleBoy   -3
    38   Flo   -3
    40   GodChild   -9
    41   Josedin   -17
    42   LightBing   -25
    43   Russell23   -28
    44   Tych23   -30
    45   Yellow_Knight   -35
    46   Fauniera   -38
       Collective_Wisdom   24

    Standings
    No echelons, meaningful chase of the break or driving finish from the puncheurs; likewise, no real action in the table, with Mellow Velo up 2 places as the most relevant change, one new member of the top ten sneaking in at number ten (ChrisDK), and the biggest rise being 7 places for Silver Grenade.
    1   Kazistuta   1455
    2   BluesInTheBottle   1316
    3   SemirS   1247
    4   DJW   1204
    5   Mellow_Velo   1194
    6   Minessa   1179
    7   Russell23   1149
    8   Tych23   1081
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1046
    10   ChrisDK   1007
    11   Jakob747   1006
    12   SafeBet   992
    13   Leadbelly   985
    14   SilverGrenade   941
    15   GPBlanco   932
    16   Rote_Laterne   929
    17   GeraintTooFast   921
    18   AG   897
    19   Spokenspin   895
    20   GodChild   874
    21   Hugo87   861
    22   Joelsim   858
    23   Vladimir   854
    24   Fauniera   850
    25   JustSomeGuy   848
    26   BicycleBoy   847
    27   Comodoro   841
    28   Squire   818
    29   Crevaison   811
    30   Carlo_Algatrensig   804
    31   Hakkie2   792
    32   LightBing   787
    33   Scrool07   776
    34   Trudgin   760
    35   Del1962   743
    36   Josedin   742
    37   LosBrolin   711
    38   Torcia86   710
    39   AmisVelo   698
    40   Kabete   694
    41   Search   684
    42   ThePirate81   669
    43   Laarsland   668
    44   Flo   637
    45   Shalgo   489
    46   Yellow_Knight   487
       Collective_Wisdom   765


    I'm not sure that I am expecting much more change tomorrow either.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #48 on: May 12, 2017, 21:12 »

    I do not understand how you can loose all the points someone gets you, in one foul swoop.

    whats the point in picking a winner if you loose their points if they dont win?

    5th to 2nd bottom back to 35th????
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    « Reply #49 on: May 12, 2017, 22:23 »
    Stage 7 Marshall dodging and a one lap crit

    Purple points

    Gaviria is now equivalent to 6th in final GC through guaranteed points alone: there will be more expensive GC picks who don't do that...
    Meanwhile, Jungels' accumulated leader bonuses are now worth more than a stage win.

    EWAN Caleb   70   0   team
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   40   8   teams
    BENNETT Sam   25   3   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   18   3   teams
    GREIPEL André   15   0   team
    STUYVEN Jasper   10   1   team
    GIBBONS Ryan   7   0   team
    BATTAGLIN Enrico   5   1   team
    SELIG Rüdiger   3   0   team
    TSATEVICH Alexei   2   0   team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   1   26   teams

    1   GPBlanco   41, Hakkie2, Trudgin   41
    4   BluesInTheBottle, Fauniera, Joelsim, Josedin, LightBing   40
    9   Search, ThePirate81, Vladimir   26
    12   Kazistuta, SemirS   19
    14   Mellow_Velo   18
    15   SilverGrenade   10
    16   Armchair_Cyclist   6
    17    Seventeen more Nibali teams   1
    No-one else broken into the 100+ club yet.  Gaviria's contribution to the top 8 is 213 points

    1   Josedin   277
    2   Joelsim   268
    3   BluesInTheBottle   252
    4   Trudgin   230
    5   Fauniera   228
    6   Hakkie2   225
    6   LightBing   225
    8   GPBlanco   215
    9   Jakob747   135
    10   SilverGrenade   132
    11   JustSomeGuy   130
    12   Vladimir   129
    13   Kazistuta   127

    Pink points
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   +40pts   8   teams
    BENNETT Sam   26   3   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   25   1   team
    JUNGELS Bob   18   3   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   15   4   teams
    STUYVEN Jasper   10   1   team
    ...
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   -15   13   teams
    ROLLAND Pierre   -18   9   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -25   1   team

    1   Trudgin   42
    2   LightBing   40
    3   Hakkie2   39
    4   GPBlanco   38
    5   Josedin   36
    6   Vladimir   27
    7   BluesInTheBottle   25
    8   Joelsim   23
    8   Kazistuta   23
    10   Fauniera   22
    11   Kabete   19
    12   DJW   15
    13   Armchair_Cyclist   10
    14   ThePirate81   7
    14   Yellow_Knight   7
    16   Leadbelly   6
    17   SemirS   4
    18   Torcia86   2
    19   AG   1
    19   AmisVelo   1
    19   ChrisDK   1
    19   Crevaison   1
    19   Hugo87   1
    19   Minessa   1
    19   Rote_Laterne   1
    26   Flo   0
    26   Jakob747   0
    26   Laarsland   0
    26   Mellow_Velo   0
    26   Russell23   0
    26   Tych23   0
    32   GeraintTooFast   -3
    32   SafeBet   -3
    34   SilverGrenade   -5
    35   Search   -6
    36   Carlo_Algatrensig   -9
    37   GodChild   -10
    38   Comodoro   -14
    38   Del1962   -14
    38   Scrool07   -14
    41   LosBrolin   -15
    41   Spokenspin   -15
    43   Squire   -17
    44   BicycleBoy   -18
    45   JustSomeGuy   -19
    45   Shalgo   -19
       Collective_Wisdom   1


    You have to go as far as 12th to find any change in position: Hakkie2 manages a 6 place rise.
    1   Kazistuta   1478
    2   BluesInTheBottle   1341
    3   SemirS   1251
    4   DJW   1219
    5   Mellow_Velo   1194
    6   Minessa   1180
    7   Russell23   1149
    8   Tych23   1081
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1056
    10   ChrisDK   1008
    11   Jakob747   1006
    12   Leadbelly   991
    13   SafeBet   989
    14   GPBlanco   970
    15   SilverGrenade   936
    16   Rote_Laterne   930
    17   GeraintTooFast   918
    18   AG   898
    19   Joelsim   881
    19   Vladimir   881
    21   Spokenspin   880
    22   Fauniera   872
    23   GodChild   864
    24   Hugo87   862
    25   Hakkie2   831
    26   BicycleBoy   829
    26   JustSomeGuy   829
    28   Comodoro   827
    28   LightBing   827
    30   Crevaison   812
    31   Trudgin   802
    32   Squire   801
    33   Carlo_Algatrensig   795
    34   Josedin   778
    35   Scrool07   762
    36   Del1962   729
    37   Kabete   713
    38   Torcia86   712
    39   AmisVelo   699
    40   LosBrolin   696
    41   Search   678
    42   ThePirate81   676
    43   Laarsland   668
    44   Flo   637
    45   Yellow_Knight   494
    46   Shalgo   470
       Collective_Wisdom   766
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #50 on: May 13, 2017, 17:45 »
    Stage 8 One hairpin too many for Conti

    Purple points

    Torcia86 will have been upset about the fate of his unique pick in the last km, and Jungels' retention of pink, which twice seemed to be in doubt, prevented my unique pick from being top scorer today.

    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka   70   0   team
    VISCONTI Giovanni   40   0   team
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   25   0   team
    JUNGELS Bob   19   3   teams
    BATTAGLIN Enrico   15   1   team
    WOODS Michael   10   2   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   7   13   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   5   26   teams
    YATES Adam   3   9   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   2   25   teams

    Between Nibali and Kruijswijk, nearly everyone got at least something, but no-one got very much.

    1   SemirS   26
    2   Kazistuta   24
    2   Mellow_Velo   24
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   20
    5   ThePirate81   17
    6   Hakkie2   15
    7   AmisVelo, JustSomeGuy   14
    9   Crevaison, Del1962, Hugo87, Trudgin   12
    13   GeraintTooFast, Jakob747, Rote_Laterne   10
    16   Flo, Kabete, Laarsland, LosBrolin   9
    20   SafeBet   8
    21   Nine Pinot teams   7
    30   Six Nibali teams   5
    36   BluesInTheBottle, DJW, SilverGrenade   3
    39   Six Kruijswijk teams   2
    45   Russell23, Shalgo   0
       Collective_Wisdom   7

    No sprint stage today, or for a few days to come, but the Gavirians will remain at the top for a while yet.
    1   Josedin   279
    2   Joelsim   270
    3   BluesInTheBottle   255
    4   Trudgin   242
    5   Hakkie2   240
    6   Fauniera   235
    7   LightBing   227
    8   GPBlanco   220
    9   Kazistuta   151
    10   Jakob747   145
    11   JustSomeGuy   144
    12   Vladimir   136
    13   SilverGrenade   135
    14   Mellow_Velo   119
    15   SemirS   113
    16   Armchair_Cyclist   104
    17   Leadbelly   101


    Pink points


    PINOT Thibaut   36   13   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   19   3   teams
    BATTAGLIN Enrico   16   1   team
    WOODS Michael   10   2   teams
    HIRT Jan   6   4   teams
    RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   6   2   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   5   26   teams
    ...
    LUDVIGSSON Tobias   -5   2   teams
    JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   -5   1   team
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   -10   19   teams
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   -15   13   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   -15   4   teams
    HANSEN Jesper   -19   3   teams

    1   Trudgin   43
    2   Fauniera   38
    3   AmisVelo   37
    4   Crevaison   31
    5   Jakob747   29
    6   Kazistuta   28
    7   Flo   27
    7   JustSomeGuy   27
    7   Mellow_Velo   27
    10   Del1962   25
    11   ThePirate81   19
    12   Hakkie2   16
    13   Armchair_Cyclist   15
    13   Torcia86   15
    15   LosBrolin   13
    16   Hugo87   11
    17   SemirS   10
    18   GeraintTooFast   9
    18   Kabete   9
    18   Rote_Laterne   9
    21   Laarsland   8
    22   Vladimir   7
    23   Minessa   5
    23   Yellow_Knight   5
    25   ChrisDK   4
    25   GodChild   4
    25   Leadbelly   4
    28   LightBing   2
    29   Squire   0
    30   Shalgo   -1
    31   BicycleBoy   -2
    32   Josedin   -3
    32   SafeBet   -3
    34   AG   -5
    35   Carlo_Algatrensig   -7
    36   Comodoro   -8
    36   GPBlanco   -8
    36   Search   -8
    39   Russell23   -13
    39   Tych23   -13
    41   BluesInTheBottle   -14
    42   SilverGrenade   -19
    43   Scrool07   -20
    44   Spokenspin   -23
    45   DJW   -24
    46   Joelsim   -26
       Collective_Wisdom   -4


    Standings
    One place rises within the top ten for Mellow Velo and for Armchair Cyclist, and for Jakob to get into the top ten, while the biggest jump mention is shared between Trudgin and Fauniera.
    1   Kazistuta   1506
    2   BluesInTheBottle   1327
    3   SemirS   1261
    4   Mellow_Velo   1221
    5   DJW   1195
    6   Minessa   1185
    7   Russell23   1136
    8   Armchair_Cyclist   1071
    9   Tych23   1068
    10   Jakob747   1035
    11   ChrisDK   1012
    12   Leadbelly   995
    13   SafeBet   986
    14   GPBlanco   962
    15   Rote_Laterne   939
    16   GeraintTooFast   927
    17   SilverGrenade   917
    18   Fauniera   910
    19   AG   893
    20   Vladimir   888
    21   Hugo87   873
    22   GodChild   868
    23   Spokenspin   857
    24   JustSomeGuy   856
    25   Joelsim   855
    26   Hakkie2   847
    27   Trudgin   845
    28   Crevaison   843
    29   LightBing   829
    30   BicycleBoy   827
    31   Comodoro   819
    32   Squire   801
    33   Carlo_Algatrensig   788
    34   Josedin   775
    35   Del1962   754
    36   Scrool07   742
    37   AmisVelo   736
    38   Torcia86   727
    39   Kabete   722
    40   LosBrolin   709
    41   ThePirate81   695
    42   Laarsland   676
    43   Search   670
    44   Flo   664
    45   Yellow_Knight   499
    46   Shalgo   469
       Collective_Wisdom   762

    Tomorrow, finally, there should be something to report...
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #51 on: May 14, 2017, 07:53 »
    Big day today Hope my 4 GC guys all rise to the top
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #52 on: May 14, 2017, 16:37 »
     :D  :s  :cool Quintana: Shalgo

     :D Pinot: Trudgin (also   :shh Nibali and    :s Gaviria)
    AmisVelo, Just Some Guy   (with   :shh Nibali  and :( Kruijswijk)
    Crevaison (with   :shh Nibali  and :( Zakarin )      
    Del1962   Hugo87 (with   :shh Nibali)
    Jakob747   (with  :S Yates and :( Zakarin )   
    Fauniera   (with  :s Gaviria)
    Leadbelly       (with  :angry Thomas and :( Zakarin )   
    Flo   Laarsland   Los Brolin (with :( Kruijswijk and :( Zakarin )   
    Kabete (with :( Kruijswijk)

     :D  :P Dumoulin   Yellow Knight (with :( Kruijswijk)
           
     :angry Yates
    Bicycle Boy, Blues in the Bottle, DJW, Geraint Too Fast, Jakob747, Mellow Velo, Rote Laterne, SafeBet, SilverGrenade

     :angry :-x Thomas:
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #53 on: May 14, 2017, 18:19 »

    so, do i loose more for nibali dropping to 5th than i gain for pinot rising to 2nd? dont tell me, it'll undoubtably be so,


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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #54 on: May 14, 2017, 20:03 »
    Stage 9 Blockhaus and block-headed police

    The five most expensive GC riders were the first five home: price put nearly all of us off three of them.

    Purple Points

    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   88   1   team
    PINOT Thibaut   40   13   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   25   1   team
    MOLLEMA Bauke   15   0   team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   10   26   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   7   7   teams
    KANGERT Tanel   5   10   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   3   19   teams
    REICHENBACH Sébastien   2   0   team
    FORMOLO Davide   1   6   teams


    1   Shalgo   88 (Quintana)
    2   Crevaison   58 (Pinot, Nibali, Zakarin and Kangert)
    3   AmisVelo, Del1962, Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Trudgin   50 (Pinot & Nibali)
    8   Flo, Laarsland   48
    10   Fauniera   47
    11   Kabete   45
    12   Jakob747, Leadbelly, LosBrolin   43
    15   Yellow_Knight   30
    16   AG   20
    17   GodChild, Minessa   17
    19   Comodoro, Russell23   16
    21   GPBlanco, Rote_Laterne   15
    23   Squire   14
    24   Armchair_Cyclist, SafeBet   13
    24   Scrool07   13
    27   Carlo_Algatrensig   11, ChrisDK, Torcia86   11
    30   GeraintTooFast, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, Search, SemirS, ThePirate81, Tych23, Vladimir   10
    38   BicycleBoy   8
    39   LightBing   7
    40   DJW, Joelsim, Josedin, SilverGrenade, Spokenspin   3
    45   BluesInTheBottle, Mellow_Velo   0
       Collective_Wisdom   18

    Trudgin and Fauniera are the only Gavirians who have high finishers today (both have Pinot, Trudgin has Nibali and Fauniera has Pozzovivo)
    1   Trudgin   292
    2   Fauniera   282
    2   Josedin   282
    4   Joelsim   273
    5   BluesInTheBottle   255
    6   Hakkie2   250
    7   GPBlanco   235
    8   LightBing   234
    9   JustSomeGuy   194
    10   Jakob747   188
    11   Kazistuta   161
    12   Vladimir   146
    13   Leadbelly   144
    14   SilverGrenade   138
    15   Crevaison   127
    16   SemirS   123
    17   Mellow_Velo   119
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   117
    19   Flo   112
    19   Laarsland   112
    21   AG   110
    22   LosBrolin   107

    Pink points
    Mayhem
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   438   1   team
    PINOT Thibaut   288   13   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   130   1   team
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   92   19   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   62   6   teams
    KANGERT Tanel   51   10   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   45   25   teams
    CATALDO Dario   30   3   teams
    ...
    MONTAGUTI Matteo   -23   1   team
    KELDERMAN Wilco   -84   1   team
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   -90   42   teams
    YATES Adam   -231   9   teams
    THOMAS Geraint   -301   10   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   -388   3   teams

    1   Laarsland   402 (Pinot, Zakarin, Kangert, Kruijswijk and Hansen, but Landa)
    2   Flo   385 (Pinot, Zakarin, Kangert and Kruijswijk, but Landa)
    3   Shalgo   377 (Quintana and Cataldo, but Landa)
    4   Kabete   355
    5   Crevaison   326
    6   LosBrolin   319
    7   JustSomeGuy   302
    8   Trudgin   283
    9   AmisVelo   229
    10   Yellow_Knight   217
    11   Hugo87   182
    12   Fauniera   170
    13   Del1962   166
    14   Squire   85
    15   Jakob747   79
    16   Josedin   64
    17   Comodoro   37
    18   Leadbelly   35
    19   Joelsim   26
    20   Torcia86   20
    21   Carlo_Algatrensig   1
    22   Scrool07   -29
    23   AG   -31
    24   GPBlanco   -49
    25   GodChild   -57
    26   LightBing   -63
    27   ThePirate81   -70
    28   Hakkie2   -88
    29   Vladimir   -124
    30   Search   -131
    31   BicycleBoy   -142
    32   Spokenspin   -163
    33   Russell23   -205
    34   SilverGrenade   -227
    35   Rote_Laterne   -241
    36   SafeBet   -245
    37   Tych23   -276
    38   GeraintTooFast   -292
    39   Armchair_Cyclist   -301
    40   ChrisDK   -349
    41   Minessa   -379
    42   SemirS   -465
    43   DJW   -515
    44   BluesInTheBottle   -638 (Thomas, Yates, Landa and Van Garderen)
    45   Mellow_Velo   -673 (Jungels, Yates and Landa, but at least Kruijswijk)
    46   Kazistuta   -780 (Jungels, Thomas, Landa and Nibali, with only Hirt to reduce the hurt)
       Collective_Wisdom   82

    Standings
    Forget everything prior to today.
    Of yesterday's top 5, only one is now in the top 30; one of yesterday's top ten is still top ten (Jakob, now 4th). Today's top three were 28th, 24th and 27th yesterday.  3 teams rise by 30+ places (Laarsland 36, Flo 35, Kabete 32) and another 7 by 20+:  9 teams fell by more than 20 places, with Mellow Velo surely breaking all records, tumbling 41 places in a 46 strong field.

    1   Crevaison   1169
    2   JustSomeGuy   1158
    3   Trudgin   1128
    4   Jakob747   1114
    5   Fauniera   1080
    6   Laarsland   1078
    7   Kabete   1077
    8   Hugo87   1055
    9   Flo   1049
    10   Leadbelly   1030
    11   LosBrolin   1028
    12   AmisVelo   965
    13   Russell23   931
    14   Del1962   920
    15   GPBlanco   913
    16   Squire   886
    17   Joelsim   881
    18   AG   862
    19   Comodoro   856
    20   Shalgo   846
    21   Josedin   839
    22   GodChild   811
    23   Minessa   806
    24   SemirS   796
    25   Tych23   792
    26   Carlo_Algatrensig   789
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   770
    28   LightBing   766
    29   Vladimir   764
    30   Hakkie2   759
    31   Torcia86   747
    32   SafeBet   741
    33   Kazistuta   726
    34   Yellow_Knight   716
    35   Scrool07   713
    36   Rote_Laterne   698
    37   Spokenspin   694
    38   SilverGrenade   690
    39   BluesInTheBottle   689
    40   BicycleBoy   685
    41   DJW   680
    42   ChrisDK   663
    43   GeraintTooFast   635
    44   ThePirate81   625
    45   Mellow_Velo   548
    46   Search   539
       Collective_Wisdom   844

    7 teams within 100 points of the lead: this could be pretty competitive.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #55 on: May 15, 2017, 07:19 »
    I st looks like MV had a nice extra Birthday present  :lol

    But hope you had a nice day otherwise Mellow

    When I sent in my team I though the TJVG might end up being my most important rider, I have seen the results and that he road in with Jungels, the ITT will be key, nice to be back up on the Podium
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #56 on: May 15, 2017, 10:13 »
    Yates, Thomas, Landa and Zakarin..... :(
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #57 on: May 15, 2017, 18:23 »
    A quick look at the riders' scores for rest day:

    Guaranteed (purple) points so far:
    Those scoring equivalent to one third place or more
    1   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   213   8   teams
    2   GREIPEL André   144   0   team
    3   EWAN Caleb   115   0   team
    4   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   113   1   team
    5   JUNGELS Bob   104   3   teams
    6   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   88   1   team
    7   STUYVEN Jasper   82   1   team
    8   POLANC Jan   70   2   teams
    8   DILLIER Silvan   70   0   team
    8   IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka   70   0   team
    11   PINOT Thibaut   62   13   teams
    12   BENNETT Sam   52   3   teams
    13   ZAKARIN Ilnur   43   19   teams
    13   FERRARI Roberto   43   1   team
    13   SELIG Rüdiger   43   0   team
    16   VISCONTI Giovanni   40   0   team
    16   MARECZKO Jakub   40   0   team
    16   NIZZOLO Giacomo   40   0   team
    19   DUMOULIN Tom   32   1   team
    20   THOMAS Geraint   29   10   teams
    21   BATTAGLIN Enrico   28   1   team
    22   SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   25   0   team

    %age return on rider price (purple points only)

    1   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   70%   1   team
    2   POLANC Jan   38   2   teams
    3   DILLIER Silvan   30   0   team
    4   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   24   8   teams
    5   FERRARI Roberto   23   1   team
    6   BATTAGLIN Enrico   22   1   team
    7   SELIG Rüdiger   22   0   team
    8   ANDREETTA Simone   21   1   team
    9   STUYVEN Jasper   18   1   team
    10   EWAN Caleb   15   0   team
    11   JUNGELS Bob   15   3   teams
    12   IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka   14   0   team
    13   GREIPEL André   12   0   team
    14   BENNETT Sam   11   3   teams
    15   MARECZKO Jakub   10   0   team


    And the "as they stand" points ("Pink Points")
    Those with 100 pts+
    1   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   628   1   team
    2   PINOT Thibaut   462   13   teams
    3   DUMOULIN Tom   352   1   team
    4   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   298   8   teams
    5   MOLLEMA Bauke   284   0   team
    6   NIBALI Vincenzo   257   26   teams
    7   ZAKARIN Ilnur   243   19   teams
    8   POLANC Jan   230   2   teams
    9   POZZOVIVO Domenico   222   7   teams
    10   JUNGELS Bob   216   3   teams
    11   GREIPEL André   184   0   team
    12   FORMOLO Davide   166   6   teams
    13   AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   150   4   teams
    14   EWAN Caleb   145   0   team
    15   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   138   1   team
    16   STUYVEN Jasper   137   1   teams
    16   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   137   25   teams
    18   KANGERT Tanel   125   10   teams
    19   THOMAS Geraint   108   10   teams
    20   CATALDO Dario   106   3   teams
    21   VAN GARDEREN Tejay   104   13   teams

    and best by %age returns (if the next 12 stages are cancelled)

    1   KOZONTCHUK Dmitriy   167%   5   teams
    2   AGNOLI Valerio   150   9   teams
    3   POLANC Jan   125   2   teams
    4   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   85   1   team
    5   RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   63   2   teams
    6   ALAFACI Eugenio   60   3   teams
    7   PETILLI Simone   58   2   teams
    8   CATALDO Dario   53   3   teams
    9   STETINA Peter   48   0   team
    10   PINOT Thibaut   46   13   teams
    11   KANGERT Tanel   44   10   teams
    12   HANSEN Jesper   44   3   teams
    13   ANDREETTA Simone   44   1   team
    14   JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   44   1   team
    15   POZZOVIVO Domenico   40   7   teams
    16   PELLIZOTTI Franco   39   0   team
    17   DILLIER Silvan   38   0   team
    18   AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   38   4   teams
    19   FORMOLO Davide   38   6   teams
    20   TIRALONGO Paolo   38   10   teams
    20   VAN ZYL Johann   38   0   team
    22   DEIGNAN Philip   37   1   team
    23   ZAKARIN Ilnur   35   19   teams
    24   BATTAGLIN Enrico   34   1   teams
    25   VAUGRENARD Benoît   33   1   team
    25   BERARD Julien   33   0   team
    25   STAMSNIJDER Tom   33   0   team
    25   KEIZER Martijn   33   0   team
    25   KISERLOVSKI Robert   33   3   teams
    30   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   33   8   teams


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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #58 on: May 16, 2017, 16:11 »
    I st looks like MV had a nice extra Birthday present  :lol

    But hope you had a nice day otherwise Mellow

    When I sent in my team I though the TJVG might end up being my most important rider, I have seen the results and that he road in with Jungels, the ITT will be key, nice to be back up on the Podium

    and the dream is over
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #59 on: May 16, 2017, 18:09 »
    Stage 10 ITT

    Did only one entrant think Dumoulin might be in with a chance, or was it that only one thought he was half as good again as a prospect than Nibali or Pinot?  Yellow Knight's trust brings some dividends.  Mollema meanwhile, almost exactly the same price as Pinot, got the nod over the Frenchman from absolutely no-one, which is beginning to look collectively remiss of us.

    Purple points


    DUMOULIN Tom   88   1   team
    THOMAS Geraint   40   10   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   25   3   teams
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   15   0   team
    KIRYIENKA Vasil   10   1   team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   7   26   teams
    MONFORT Maxime   5   1   team
    VAN EMDEN Jos   3   0   team
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   2   4   teams
    MOLLEMA Bauke   1   0   team

    1   Yellow_Knight   88
    2   Kazistuta   72 (Thomas, Jungels & Nibali)
    3   Armchair_Cyclist, ChrisDK, Minessa   47
    6   DJW   42
    7   BluesInTheBottle, Leadbelly, Russell23, Spokenspin, Tych23   40
    12   SemirS   32
    13   Mellow_Velo   25
    14   AG   17
    15   GPBlanco, Hugo87   9
    17   19 other Nibalists   7
    and 10 teams fail to score

    Kazistuta gets very close to getting among the Gavirians
    1   Trudgin   299
    2   BluesInTheBottle   295
    3   Fauniera   282
    3   Josedin   282
    5   Joelsim   273
    6   Hakkie2   257
    7   GPBlanco   244
    8   LightBing   234
    9   Kazistuta   233
    10   JustSomeGuy   201
    11   Jakob747   188
    12   Leadbelly   184
    13   Armchair_Cyclist   164
    14   SemirS   155
    15   Vladimir   153
    16   Mellow_Velo   144
    17   SilverGrenade   138
    17   Yellow_Knight   138
    19   Crevaison   134
    20   AG   127
    20   DJW   127
    22   Russell23   125
    23   Tych23   121
    24   Spokenspin   114
    25   Flo   112
    25   Laarsland   112
    27   LosBrolin   107
    28   Minessa   102


    Pink points

    DUMOULIN Tom   273   1   team
    JUNGELS Bob   128   3   teams
    THOMAS Geraint   82   10   teams
    KIRYIENKA Vasil   10   1   team
    ...
    CONTI Valerio   -10   1   team
    PELUCCHI Matteo   -15   7   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   -25   7   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   -25   19   teams
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   -26   13   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   -61   6   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   -110   13   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -125   1   team



    1   Yellow_Knight   264
    2   Kazistuta   221
    3   Mellow_Velo   129
    4   SemirS   111
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   68
    6   Minessa   66
    7   BluesInTheBottle   58
    8   DJW   46
    9   Tych23   34
    10   Spokenspin   31
    11   ChrisDK   29
    12   Vladimir   15
    13   GeraintTooFast   9
    13   Hakkie2   9
    15   ThePirate81   8
    16   GPBlanco   2
    17   Rote_Laterne   1
    18   Search   -18
    19   Josedin   -21
    20   GodChild   -23
    20   LightBing   -23
    22   AG   -31
    22   SafeBet   -31
    24   BicycleBoy   -32
    25   Russell23   -35
    26   SilverGrenade   -49
    27   Scrool07   -57
    28   Torcia86   -60
    29   Leadbelly   -61
    30   Joelsim   -64
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   -76
    32   Squire   -78
    33   Comodoro   -86
    34   AmisVelo   -102
    35   Trudgin   -107
    36   Kabete   -111
    37   Hugo87   -125
    38   Jakob747   -127
    39   JustSomeGuy   -129
    39   Shalgo   -129
    41   Crevaison   -134
    42   Flo   -141
    43   Del1962   -142
    44   Laarsland   -145
    45   Fauniera   -149
    46   LosBrolin   -174
       Collective_Wisdom   -24

    In contrast to many previous games, most teams go into week 2 with their full complement of 9, and no team has lost more than one rider.  Pelucci was, I assume, a cheap sprinter in the hope of some fluke top tens rather than a major tactical bulwark for his 7 teams: Kelderman will have been more of a loss to Vladimir.



    Standings

    No change among that very tight top 4, except that it is even tighter, and immediately below them Yellow Knight, who was second last before they started the Blockhaus stage, but up 29 places today (putting Kazistuta's 25 place rise in the shade) and with the prospect of at least a few days' worth of 18 point bonuses to follow.  The other upward movement in the top ten is Leadbelly going from 10th to 6th.

    1   Crevaison   1035
    2   JustSomeGuy   1029
    3   Trudgin   1021
    4   Jakob747   987
    5   Yellow_Knight   980
    6   Leadbelly   969
    7   Kabete   966
    8   Kazistuta   947
    9   Laarsland   933
    10   Fauniera   931
    11   Hugo87   930
    12   GPBlanco   915
    13   Flo   908
    14   SemirS   907
    15   Russell23   896
    16   Minessa   872
    17   AmisVelo   863
    18   LosBrolin   854
    19   Armchair_Cyclist   838
    20   AG   831
    21   Tych23   826
    22   Josedin   818
    23   Joelsim   817
    24   Squire   808
    25   GodChild   788
    26   Vladimir   779
    27   Del1962   778
    28   Comodoro   770
    29   Hakkie2   768
    30   BluesInTheBottle   747
    31   LightBing   743
    32   DJW   726
    33   Spokenspin   725
    34   Shalgo   717
    35   Carlo_Algatrensig   713
    36   SafeBet   710
    37   Rote_Laterne   699
    38   ChrisDK   692
    39   Torcia86   687
    40   Mellow_Velo   677
    41   Scrool07   656
    42   BicycleBoy   653
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