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Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2017, 20:10 »
Stage 11 Short and Bumpy

Purple points

Half our teams thought that Omar would be the man for the Blue jersey, and maybe for a few stage placings, but not for sprinting like that.

FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   70   21   teams
COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   40   0   team
ROLLAND Pierre   25   9   teams
DUMOULIN Tom   18   1   team
KANGERT Tanel   15   10   teams
VISCONTI Giovanni   10   0   team
HERMANS Ben   7   0   team
CATALDO Dario   5   3   teams
PETILLI Simone   3   2   teams
MONFORT Maxime   2   1   team
DE PLUS Laurens   1   0   team

1   GPBlanco   110 (Fraile, Rolland, Kangert)
2   GodChild   100 (Fraile, Rolland, Cataldo)
3   Fauniera, Search, ThePirate81   95 (Fraile, Rolland)
6   Kabete   87
7   Flo, Laarsland, Rote_Laterne, Russell23   85
11   Leadbelly, Shalgo   75
13   GeraintTooFast, SafeBet   73
15   Seven more Fraile teams   70
22   Yellow_Knight   58
23   BicycleBoy   40
24   Mellow_Velo, Squire   25
26   Comodoro,Crevaison   15
28   Remaining 19 teams   0
   Collective_Wisdom   85


Vast majority of teams now have over 100 points, so here is everyone's standings in the minor ranking so far:
1   Fauniera   377
2   GPBlanco   354
3   Josedin   352
4   Hakkie2   327
5   Trudgin   299
6   BluesInTheBottle   295
7   Joelsim   273
8   Leadbelly   259
9   LightBing   234
10   Kazistuta   233
11   SemirS   225
12   Russell23   210
13   JustSomeGuy   201
14   Flo   197
14   Laarsland   197
16   Yellow_Knight   196
17   ThePirate81   193
18   Tych23   191
19   Jakob747   188
20   Spokenspin   184
21   Search   183
22   Shalgo   173
23   Mellow_Velo   169
24   Armchair_Cyclist   164
25   Kabete   163
26   AmisVelo   158
27   Del1962   156
28   SafeBet   153
28   Vladimir   153
30   Crevaison   149
31   GodChild   143
32   SilverGrenade   138
33   Rote_Laterne   129
34   AG   127
34   DJW   127
36   GeraintTooFast   112
37   LosBrolin   107
38   BicycleBoy   103
39   Minessa   102
40   Squire   95
41   ChrisDK   94
42   Hugo87   88
43   Scrool07   79
44   Comodoro   47
45   Torcia86   39
46   Carlo_Algatrensig   27
   Collective_Wisdom   159
Leadbelly becomes the first non-Gavirian to break into that top 8 for a while.


Pink points
Other than the stage points, the rises of Amador, Kangert and Cataldo have an opposite effect of falls for other riders who might no longer be thought of as contenders.  Van Garderen's fall is achieved independently of the efforts of the breakaway.

FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   110   21   teams
KANGERT Tanel   68   10   teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   65   4   teams
ROLLAND Pierre   36   9   teams
CATALDO Dario   35   3   teams
DUMOULIN Tom   14   1   team
MONFORT Maxime   10   1   team
...
PINOT Thibaut   -10   13   teams
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -15   1   team
POLANC Jan   -22   2   teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   -23   25   teams
JUNGELS Bob   -25   3   teams
THOMAS Geraint   -25   10   teams
CONTI Valerio   -33   1   team
ZAKARIN Ilnur   -35   19   teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico   -40   7   teams
VAN GARDEREN Tejay   -44   13   teams


1   GPBlanco   270
2   Kabete   223
3   Rote_Laterne   146
4   Shalgo   123
5   ThePirate81   112
6   Laarsland   109
7   GodChild   105
7   Hakkie2   105
9   Flo   101
10   Yellow_Knight   95
11   Search   93
12   Fauniera   87
12   GeraintTooFast   87
14   Leadbelly   74
15   SafeBet   73
16   Russell23   71
17   AmisVelo   70
18   Del1962   49
19   Josedin   45
20   BicycleBoy   39
21   Crevaison   16
22   SemirS   11
23   Hugo87   4
24   DJW   -4
25   Comodoro   -6
26   Spokenspin   -9
27   Trudgin   -10
28   ChrisDK   -18
29   Mellow_Velo   -19
30   Tych23   -20
31   Squire   -31
32   Kazistuta   -53
33   Vladimir   -54
34   Armchair_Cyclist   -63
35   Torcia86   -65
36   LightBing   -70
37   Carlo_Algatrensig   -74
37   Jakob747   -74
39   BluesInTheBottle   -75
40   JustSomeGuy   -77
41   SilverGrenade   -80
42   AG   -84
43   Scrool07   -86
44   Minessa   -97
45   Joelsim   -113
46   LosBrolin   -121
   Collective_Wisdom   113

Standings

The two big scorers on the day, Kabete and GPBlanco, leap from 7th and 12th respectively to first and second places, but their tenure is only as safe as the new elevated positions of Amador and Kangert.  Yellow Knight, the only team with Dumoulin, also has Kangert, and also reaches the podium.  There are even bigger rises further down the table, Rote Laterne being the biggest climber (17 places).

1   Kabete   1189
2   GPBlanco   1185
3   Yellow_Knight   1075
4   Crevaison   1051
5   Leadbelly   1043
6   Laarsland   1042
7   Fauniera   1018
8   Trudgin   1011
9   Flo   1009
10   Russell23   967
11   JustSomeGuy   952
12   Hugo87   934
13   AmisVelo   933
14   SemirS   918
15   Jakob747   913
16   Kazistuta   894
17   GodChild   893
18   Hakkie2   873
19   Josedin   863
20   Rote_Laterne   845
21   Shalgo   840
22   Del1962   827
23   Tych23   806
24   SafeBet   783
25   Squire   777
26   Armchair_Cyclist   775
26   Minessa   775
28   Comodoro   764
29   AG   747
30   ThePirate81   745
31   LosBrolin   733
32   GeraintTooFast   731
33   Vladimir   725
34   DJW   722
35   Spokenspin   716
36   Joelsim   704
37   BicycleBoy   692
38   ChrisDK   674
39   LightBing   673
40   BluesInTheBottle   672
41   Mellow_Velo   658
42   Carlo_Algatrensig   639
43   Torcia86   622
44   Search   614
45   Scrool07   570
46   SilverGrenade   561
   Collective_Wisdom   933

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #61 on: May 17, 2017, 21:13 »
    ooooh Flo is catching me... just in time for Gavaria to win mwahahaaaa
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #62 on: May 18, 2017, 22:50 »
    Stage 12  A sprint before a sprint

    Purple points

    The domjnation of Gaviria, and his teams, in the subgame continues.  If I am late posting tomorrow, read this sentence again.

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   70   8   teams
    MARECZKO Jakub   40   0   team
    BENNETT Sam   25   3   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   18   1   team
    BAUHAUS Phil   15   2   teams
    RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel   10   0   team
    GIBBONS Ryan   7   0   team
    MODOLO Sacha   5   4   teams
    GREIPEL André   3   0   team
    STUYVEN Jasper   2   1   team
    FERRARI Roberto   1   1   team

    1   LightBing   75
    2   BluesInTheBottle, Fauniera, GPBlanco, Hakkie2, Joelsim, Josedin, Trudgin   70
    9   Yellow_Knight   33
    10   Search   30
    11   ThePirate81, Vladimir   25
    13   Kazistuta   15
    14   Scrool07, Torcia86   5
    16   SilverGrenade   2
    17   AG   1
    18   Most teams   0

    1   Fauniera   447
    2   GPBlanco   424
    3   Josedin   422
    4   Hakkie2   397
    5   Trudgin   369
    6   BluesInTheBottle   365
    7   Joelsim   343
    8   LightBing   309
    9   Leadbelly   259
    10   Kazistuta   248
    11   Yellow_Knight   229
    12   SemirS   225
    13   ThePirate81   218
    14   Search   213
    15   Russell23   210
    16   JustSomeGuy   201

    1   Fauniera   447
    2   GPBlanco   424
    3   Josedin   422
    4   Hakkie2   397
    5   Trudgin   369
    6   BluesInTheBottle   365
    7   Joelsim   343
    8   LightBing   309
    9   Leadbelly   259
    10   Kazistuta   248
    11   Yellow_Knight   229
    12   SemirS   225
    13   ThePirate81   218
    14   Search   213
    15   Russell23   210
    16   JustSomeGuy   201


    Pink points
    Very little happening here...

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   70   8   teams
    BENNETT Sam   31   3   teams
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   30   21   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   17   1   team
    BAUHAUS Phil   15   2   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   15   7   teams
    ...
    KANGERT Tanel   -15   10   teams
    POLANC Jan   -30   2   teams


    1   Fauniera   113
    2   Hakkie2   107
    3   Josedin   101
    4   LightBing   93
    5   GPBlanco   83
    6   Joelsim   72
    7   Trudgin   70
    8   Search   68
    9   BluesInTheBottle   65
    10   ThePirate81   62
    11   GodChild   44
    12   Tych23   40
    13   Del1962   33
    13   GeraintTooFast   33
    13   SemirS   33
    16   AmisVelo   32
    17   Shalgo   31
    18   SafeBet   30
    19   Spokenspin   29
    20   Russell23   25
    21   Leadbelly   19
    22   Flo   17
    23   AG   16
    24   Rote_Laterne   15
    24   Yellow_Knight   15
    26   Kazistuta   13
    27   Kabete   11
    28   Laarsland   10
    29   Minessa   9
    30   Scrool07   8
    31   SilverGrenade   7
    31   Torcia86   7
    33   Carlo_Algatrensig   5
    34   JustSomeGuy   4
    35   Hugo87   3
    36   LosBrolin   2
    37   Vladimir   1
    38   Mellow_Velo   -1
    39   Squire   -2
    40   ChrisDK   -3
    41   Armchair_Cyclist   -4
    42   DJW   -6
    43   Comodoro   -12
    44   Crevaison   -14
    45   BicycleBoy   -16
    46   Jakob747   -29
       Collective_Wisdom   16

    Standings

    Having Gaviria lifts GP Blanco above Kabete: Fauniera and Trudgin ove up within the top ten for the same reason.  LightBing and Joelsim move up by more than the other Gavirians, both by 9 places.

    1   GPBlanco   1268
    2   Kabete   1200
    3   Fauniera   1131
    4   Yellow_Knight   1090
    5   Trudgin   1081
    6   Leadbelly   1062
    7   Laarsland   1052
    8   Crevaison   1037
    9   Flo   1026
    10   Russell23   992
    11   Hakkie2   980
    12   AmisVelo   965
    13   Josedin   964
    14   JustSomeGuy   956
    15   SemirS   951
    16   GodChild   937
    16   Hugo87   937
    18   Kazistuta   907
    19   Jakob747   884
    20   Shalgo   871
    21   Del1962   860
    21   Rote_Laterne   860
    23   Tych23   846
    24   SafeBet   813
    25   ThePirate81   807
    26   Minessa   784
    27   Joelsim   776
    28   Squire   775
    29   Armchair_Cyclist   771
    30   LightBing   766
    31   GeraintTooFast   764
    32   AG   763
    33   Comodoro   752
    34   Spokenspin   745
    35   BluesInTheBottle   737
    36   LosBrolin   735
    37   Vladimir   726
    38   DJW   716
    39   Search   682
    40   BicycleBoy   676
    41   ChrisDK   671
    42   Mellow_Velo   657
    43   Carlo_Algatrensig   644
    44   Torcia86   629
    45   Scrool07   578
    46   SilverGrenade   568
       Collective_Wisdom   949

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #63 on: May 18, 2017, 23:55 »
    Why on earth did I pick Lady Garden, argh.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #64 on: May 19, 2017, 08:15 »
    Why on earth did I pick Lady Garden, argh.

    it was always going to be career defining one way or the other this GT just like me Joel you are clearly a glass half full type of guy  :lol
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #65 on: May 19, 2017, 17:29 »
    Stage 13 Sprint after a sprint, but the last of them

    Purple points
    Assuming Gaviria gets into Milan, he will probably score more game points than whoever comes 2nd on GC, and will probably have been much cheaper than whoever that is.  Well done to the teams that picked him.

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   70   8   teams
    BENNETT Sam   40   3   teams
    STUYVEN Jasper   25   1   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   18   1   team
    FERRARI Roberto   15   1   team
    GIBBONS Ryan   10   0   team
    SELIG Rüdiger   7   0   team
    MODOLO Sacha   5   4   teams
    EWAN Caleb   3   0   team
    GREIPEL André   2   0   team
    KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   1   0   team

    1   LightBing   75
    2   BluesInTheBottle, Fauniera, GPBlanco, Hakkie2, Joelsim, Josedin, Trudgin   70
    9   Search   45
    10   ThePirate81, Vladimir   40
    12   SilverGrenade   25
    13   Yellow_Knight   18
    14   AG   15
    15   Scrool07, Torcia86   5

    What? You expect me to have something new to say about the fact that this classification is entirely in the hands of the Gavirians?
    1   Fauniera   517
    2   GPBlanco   494
    3   Josedin   492
    4   Hakkie2   467
    5   Trudgin   439
    6   BluesInTheBottle   435
    7   Joelsim   413
    8   LightBing   384
    9   Leadbelly   259
    10   Search   258
    10   ThePirate81   258
    12   Kazistuta   248
    13   Yellow_Knight   247
    14   SemirS   225
    15   Vladimir   218
    16   Russell23   210
    17   JustSomeGuy   201

    Pink points

    The Thomas teams had probably only retained a small hope of an acceptable return: today that lingering shred was eliminated.  I suppose itmeans that today at least had some GC relevance.

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   70   8   teams
    BENNETT Sam   48   3   teams
    STUYVEN Jasper   25   1   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   18   1   team
    FERRARI Roberto   16   1   team
    ...
    THOMAS Geraint   -90   10   teams

    1   Joelsim   77
    2   LightBing   76
    3   Trudgin   74
    4   Hakkie2   73
    4   Josedin   73
    6   Fauniera   71
    6   GPBlanco   71
    8   Search   58
    9   Vladimir   55
    10   ThePirate81   47
    11   SilverGrenade   38
    12   AG   19
    13   Kabete   17
    14   Yellow_Knight   16
    15   SafeBet   13
    16   GeraintTooFast   11
    16   Jakob747   11
    18   Scrool07   10
    18   Torcia86   10
    20   Carlo_Algatrensig   9
    20   Rote_Laterne   9
    22   LosBrolin   7
    23   BicycleBoy   5
    23   Comodoro   5
    23   Del1962   5
    23   Hugo87   5
    23   Laarsland   5
    23   Mellow_Velo   5
    23   SemirS   5
    30   Flo   3
    31   AmisVelo   2
    32   Crevaison   1
    32   JustSomeGuy   1
    32   Shalgo   1
    32   Squire   1
    36   GodChild   -1
    37   BluesInTheBottle   -7
    38   DJW   -81
    39   Armchair_Cyclist   -83
    39   Kazistuta   -83
    41   ChrisDK   -85
    41   Leadbelly   -85
    43   Spokenspin   -86
    44   Minessa   -87
    45   Russell23   -89
    45   Tych23   -89

    Standings

    That is beginning to look like a very tidy lead, built on Gaviriia,Nibali, GPM specialist Fraile, and what many will consider to be two top ten overachievers in Amador and Kangert.  Can they, and GPBlanco,  hang on?  Vladimir out-rises the Gavirians, taking a nine place leap courtesy of Bennett.


    1   GPBlanco   1339
    2   Kabete   1217
    3   Fauniera   1202
    4   Trudgin   1155
    5   Yellow_Knight   1106
    6   Laarsland   1057
    7   Hakkie2   1053
    8   Crevaison   1038
    9   Josedin   1037
    10   Flo   1029
    11   Leadbelly   977
    12   AmisVelo   967
    13   JustSomeGuy   957
    14   SemirS   956
    15   Hugo87   942
    16   GodChild   936
    17   Russell23   903
    18   Jakob747   895
    19   Shalgo   872
    20   Rote_Laterne   869
    21   Del1962   865
    22   ThePirate81   854
    23   Joelsim   853
    24   LightBing   842
    25   SafeBet   826
    26   Kazistuta   824
    27   AG   782
    28   Vladimir   781
    29   Squire   776
    30   GeraintTooFast   775
    31   Comodoro   757
    31   Tych23   757
    33   LosBrolin   742
    34   Search   740
    35   BluesInTheBottle   730
    36   Minessa   697
    37   Armchair_Cyclist   688
    38   BicycleBoy   681
    39   Mellow_Velo   662
    40   Spokenspin   659
    41   Carlo_Algatrensig   653
    42   Torcia86   639
    43   DJW   635
    44   SilverGrenade   606
    45   Scrool07   588
    46   ChrisDK   586
       Collective_Wisdom   950
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #66 on: May 21, 2017, 12:59 »
    Sorry: went out early, got back late, slept in late.

    Stage 14 Oropa: in search of sanctuary from attacks

    Purple points


    A possible 126 pink jersey points still to come, and another TT for which he will be a favourite: Dumoulin will be a big part of this classification as well as of the main part of the game.

    Popular riders abound in the top 10 today, along with the pair who were not to be ignored, but were too expensive to be very popular.

    DUMOULIN Tom   88   1   team
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   40   19   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   25   42   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   15   1   team
    PINOT Thibaut   10   13   teams
    YATES Adam   7   9   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   5   26   teams
    PELLIZOTTI Franco   3   0   team
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   2   25   teams
    KANGERT Tanel   1   10   teams

    1   Yellow_Knight   91 (Dumoulin, Kruijswijk and Kangert)
    2   Jakob747   82 (Zakarin, Landa, Pinot and Yates)
    3   Crevaison   81 (Zakarin, Landa, Pinot, Nibali and Kangert)
    4   Flo, Laarsland   78 Zakarin, Landa, Pinot, Kruijswijk and Kangert)
    6   LosBrolin, SafeBet   77
    8   BicycleBoy, Leadbelly   75
    10   DJW   72, SilverGrenade, Squire   72
    13   AG, Armchair_Cyclis, Scrool07   70
    16   Joelsim, Josedin, Tych23   67
    19   Russell23   66
    20   AmisVelo, Spokenspin   42
    22   Del1962, Hugo87, Rote_Laterne, Shalgo   40
    26   GeraintTooFast   39
    27   Kabete   38
    28   Fauniera   35
    29   Mellow_Velo   34
    30   Comodoro   33
    31   BluesInTheBottle, Carlo_Algatrensig, GodChild, Minessa, SemirS, ThePirate81, Torcia86, Vladimir   32
    39   GPBlanco   31
    40   ChrisDK, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, Search   30
    44   LightBing   27
    45   JustSomeGuy   17
    46   Trudgin   15
       Collective_Wisdom   73

    Yellow Knight (the only Dumoulin team) positions himself as the highest challenger to the Gavirian domination:
    1   Josedin   559
    2   Fauniera   552
    3   GPBlanco   525
    4   Hakkie2   497
    5   Joelsim   480
    6   BluesInTheBottle   467
    7   Trudgin   454
    8   LightBing   411
    9   Yellow_Knight   338
    10   Leadbelly   334
    11   ThePirate81   290
    12   Search   288
    13   Kazistuta   278
    14   Russell23   276
    15   Flo   275
    15   Laarsland   275
    17   Jakob747   270
    18   Tych23   258
    19   SemirS   257
    20   Vladimir   250
    21   SilverGrenade   237
    22   Armchair_Cyclist   234
    23   Crevaison   230
    23   SafeBet   230
    25   Spokenspin   226
    26   JustSomeGuy   218
    27   AG   213
    27   Shalgo   213
    29   Mellow_Velo   203
    30   Kabete   201
    31   AmisVelo   200
    32   DJW   199
    33   Del1962   196
    34   LosBrolin   184
    35   BicycleBoy   178
    36   GodChild   175
    37   Rote_Laterne   169
    38   Squire   167
    39   Scrool07   159
    40   GeraintTooFast   151
    41   Minessa   134
    42   Hugo87   128
    43   ChrisDK   124
    44   Torcia86   81
    45   Comodoro   80
    46   Carlo_Algatrensig   59
       Collective_Wisdom   232

    Pink points

    Zakarin tops up his 2nd place points with a GC jump from 10th to 5th, but Dumoulin goes from 11th to first on the KoM classification, and so gets 70 more projected points.  In effect, He has maximised his projected category points, which ban only fall, and can only gain through daily bonuses.

    DUMOULIN Tom   158   1   team
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   150   19   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   52   13   teams
    KANGERT Tanel   41   10   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   33   42   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   30   26   teams
    YATES Adam   21   9   teams
    BENNETT Sam   10   3   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   10   25   teams
    ...
    MONFORT Maxime   -10   1   team
    WOODS Michael   -14   2   teams
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   -30   21   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   -40   3   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   -80   4   teams

    Mollema was the only GC high placing contender who went unpicked: yesterday's 100 point drop vindicates us collectively.

    Nearly all of us (but not the leader going into the day) come away from Oropa in profit:
    1   Crevaison   306
    2   Laarsland   260
    3   BicycleBoy   255
    4   Flo   254
    5   Jakob747   247
    6   LosBrolin   239
    7   AG   215
    7   Squire   215
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   213
    10   Yellow_Knight   209
    11   Scrool07   207
    12   SafeBet   204
    13   SilverGrenade   202
    14   Leadbelly   201
    15   Joelsim   187
    16   Russell23   186
    17   Josedin   163
    17   Tych23   163
    19   Spokenspin   128
    20   DJW   124
    21   Rote_Laterne   105
    22   Comodoro   100
    23   AmisVelo   99
    24   JustSomeGuy   87
    25   Trudgin   84
    26   Del1962   79
    27   Vladimir   74
    28   Minessa   73
    29   Torcia86   63
    30   GeraintTooFast   62
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   59
    32   Fauniera   55
    33   BluesInTheBottle   52
    34   ChrisDK   50
    35   LightBing   41
    36   ThePirate81   39
    37   GodChild   35
    37   Search   35
    39   Hugo87   29
    40   Mellow_Velo   24
    41   Hakkie2   21
    41   Kazistuta   21
    43   Kabete   20
    44   Shalgo   0
    45   SemirS   -3
    46   GPBlanco   -6
       Collective_Wisdom   234


    Standings

    And it is back to being very close: 8 teams within 107 points.  Kangert's gain was not enough to make up for the losses of Amador for GPBlanco, while Crevaison, with all five of the non-Dumoulin riders whose score increased by 30 or more, comes from 7th to overtake him.  Fauniera, Trudgin and Kabete (2nd, 3rd and 4th previously) slip backwards for lack of Zakarin/Dumoulin, allowing Laarsland, Yellow Knight and Flo to move up.  Leadbelly makes a top ten appearance, and Los Brolin is the 13 place high riser of the day.

    1   Crevaison   1344
    2   GPBlanco   1333
    3   Laarsland   1317
    4   Yellow_Knight   1315
    5   Flo   1283
    6   Fauniera   1257
    7   Trudgin   1239
    8   Kabete   1237
    9   Josedin   1200
    10   Leadbelly   1178
    11   Jakob747   1142
    12   Russell23   1089
    13   Hakkie2   1074
    14   AmisVelo   1066
    15   JustSomeGuy   1044
    16   Joelsim   1040
    17   SafeBet   1030
    18   AG   997
    19   Squire   991
    20   LosBrolin   981
    21   Rote_Laterne   974
    22   GodChild   971
    22   Hugo87   971
    24   SemirS   953
    25   Del1962   944
    26   BicycleBoy   936
    27   Tych23   920
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   901
    29   ThePirate81   893
    30   LightBing   883
    31   Shalgo   872
    32   Comodoro   857
    33   Vladimir   855
    34   Kazistuta   845
    35   GeraintTooFast   837
    36   SilverGrenade   808
    37   Scrool07   795
    38   Spokenspin   787
    39   BluesInTheBottle   782
    40   Search   775
    41   Minessa   770
    42   DJW   759
    43   Carlo_Algatrensig   712
    44   Torcia86   702
    45   Mellow_Velo   686
    46   ChrisDK   636
       Collective_Wisdom   1184
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #67 on: May 21, 2017, 18:54 »
    Stage 15  The race of the leaves that are staying put

    Lots of points for the few, and a few for the many. (But there again, the Tories are about to win an election, so what would you expect?)

    JUNGELS Bob   70   3   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   40   1   team
    PINOT Thibaut   25   13   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   21   1   team
    YATES Adam   15   9   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   10   7   teams
    KONRAD Patrick   7   4   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   5   26   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   2   19   teams
    MOLLEMA Bauke   1   0   team


    1   Mellow_Velo   85
    2   Kazistuta, SemirS   75
    4   Jakob747   42
    5   Shalgo   40
    6   Fauniera   35
    7   Crevaison   32
    8   AmisVelo, Del1962, Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Trudgin   30
    13   Flo, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin   27
    17   Kabete   25
    18   SilverGrenade   24
    19   SafeBet   22
    20   Yellow_Knight   21
    21   GeraintTooFast, Rote_Laterne   20
    23   AG, BicycleBoy, DJW   17
    26   BluesInTheBottle, GodChild, Minessa   15
    29   ChrisDK, Hakkie2, Russell23, Tych23   12
    33   LightBing   10
    34   Spokenspin   9
    35   Armchair_Cyclist, Scrool07, Squire   7
    38   Carlo_Algatrensig, Comodoro, GPBlanco, Search, ThePirate81, Torcia86, Vladimir   5
    45   Joelsim, Josedin   2
       Collective_Wisdom   7

    1   Fauniera   587
    2   Josedin   561
    3   GPBlanco   530
    4   Hakkie2   509
    5   Trudgin   484
    6   BluesInTheBottle   482
    6   Joelsim   482
    8   LightBing   421
    9   Leadbelly   361
    10   Yellow_Knight   359
    11   Kazistuta   353
    12   SemirS   332
    13   Jakob747   312
    14   Flo   302
    14   Laarsland   302
    16   ThePirate81   295
    17   Search   293
    18   Mellow_Velo   288
    18   Russell23   288
    20   Tych23   270
    21   Crevaison   262
    22   SilverGrenade   261
    23   Vladimir   255
    24   Shalgo   253
    25   SafeBet   252
    26   JustSomeGuy   248
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   241
    28   Spokenspin   235
    29   AG   230
    29   AmisVelo   230
    31   Del1962   226
    31   Kabete   226
    33   DJW   216
    34   LosBrolin   211
       Collective_Wisdom   239

    Pink points
    JUNGELS Bob   +85   3   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   40   1   team
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   35   7   teams
    YATES Adam   31   9   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   23   13   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   21   1   team
    KONRAD Patrick   17   4   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   16   6   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   15   4   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   15   25   teams
    ...
    PETILLI Simone   -14   2   teams
    SAVITSKY Ivan   -15   5   teams
    KANGERT Tanel   -190   10   teams

    Kangert's inadvertent somersault is fairly disastrous to 10 teams, but none of them came off quite as badly as the Collective Wisdom squad.

    1   Mellow_Velo   138
    2   SemirS   111
    3   Kazistuta   84
    4   Jakob747   68
    5   Fauniera   66
    6   SilverGrenade   58
    7   AmisVelo   56
    7   Minessa   56
    9   GodChild   54
    9   JustSomeGuy   54
    11   Carlo_Algatrensig   53
    12   Tych23   52
    13   LightBing   50
    14   DJW   49
    14   Hugo87   49
    16   LosBrolin   47
    17   AG   43
    18   BluesInTheBottle   42
    18   GeraintTooFast   42
    20   Spokenspin   39
    20   Trudgin   39
    22   Vladimir   38
    23   Del1962   34
    24   Torcia86   33
    25   Squire   31
    26   ChrisDK   30
    27   Hakkie2   29
    28   ThePirate81   27
    29   SafeBet   25
    30   Joelsim   24
    31   Leadbelly   23
    32   Search   19
    33   Shalgo   17
    34   Armchair_Cyclist   16
    35   Josedin   15
    36   Scrool07   13
    37   Kabete   -112
    38   BicycleBoy   -135
    39   Russell23   -137
    40   Rote_Laterne   -138
    41   Yellow_Knight   -147
    42   Flo   -149
    43   GPBlanco   -157
    44   Laarsland   -159
    45   Crevaison   -160
    46   Comodoro   -163
       Collective_Wisdom   -168


    Those 10 Kangert included those who were the top 5 this morning, and 8th place.  Those 6 teams now occupy 6th to 11th places, and we have a totally new top five.  That means that the only Dumoulin team has taken a hit that 5 more pink jersey bonuses can only go halfway to making up for. 

    1   Fauniera   1323
    2   Trudgin   1278
    3   Josedin   1215
    4   Jakob747   1210
    5   Leadbelly   1201
    6   Crevaison   1184
    7   GPBlanco   1176
    8   Yellow_Knight   1168
    9   Laarsland   1158
    10   Flo   1134
    11   Kabete   1125
    12   AmisVelo   1122
    13   Hakkie2   1103
    14   JustSomeGuy   1098
    15   Joelsim   1064
    15   SemirS   1064
    17   SafeBet   1055
    18   AG   1040
    19   LosBrolin   1028
    20   GodChild   1025
    21   Squire   1022
    22   Hugo87   1020
    23   Del1962   978
    24   Tych23   972
    25   Russell23   952
    26   LightBing   933
    27   Kazistuta   929
    28   ThePirate81   920
    29   Armchair_Cyclist   917
    30   Vladimir   893
    31   Shalgo   889
    32   GeraintTooFast   879
    33   SilverGrenade   866
    34   Rote_Laterne   836
    35   Minessa   826
    35   Spokenspin   826
    37   BluesInTheBottle   824
    37   Mellow_Velo   824
    39   DJW   808
    39   Scrool07   808
    41   BicycleBoy   801
    42   Search   794
    43   Carlo_Algatrensig   765
    44   Torcia86   735
    45   Comodoro   694
    46   ChrisDK   666
       Collective_Wisdom   1016

    I should be able to do some rest day rider score analysis tomorrow.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #68 on: May 23, 2017, 00:48 »
    On Rest Day 2

    Purple points
    Riders who have at least the equivalent of a 2nd place on a stage:
    1   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   353   8   teams
    2   DUMOULIN Tom   283   1   team
    3   JUNGELS Bob   199   3   teams
    4   GREIPEL André   149   0   team
    5   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   143   1   team
    6   EWAN Caleb   118   0   team
    7   BENNETT Sam   117   3   teams
    8   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   113   1   team
    9   STUYVEN Jasper   109   1   team
    10   PINOT Thibaut   97   13   teams
    11   ZAKARIN Ilnur   85   19   teams
    12   MARECZKO Jakub   80   0   team
    13   DILLIER Silvan   70   0   team
    13   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   70   21   teams
    13   IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka   70   0   team
    13   POLANC Jan   70   2   teams
    17   THOMAS Geraint   69   10   teams
    18   FERRARI Roberto   59   1   team
    19   SELIG Rüdiger   50   0   team
    19   VISCONTI Giovanni   50   0   team
    21   COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   41   0   team
    22   NIZZOLO Giacomo   40   0   team
    22   SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   40   0   team

    %age return on the guaranteed points:
    1   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   70   1   team
    2   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   40   21   teams
    3   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   39   8   teams
    4   POLANC Jan   38   2   teams
    5   FERRARI Roberto   32   1   team
    6   DILLIER Silvan   30   0   team
    7   JUNGELS Bob   29   3   teams
    8   SELIG Rüdiger   25   0   team
    9   BENNETT Sam   25   3   teams
    10   STUYVEN Jasper   24   1   team
    11   BATTAGLIN Enrico   22   1   team
    12   ANDREETTA Simone   21   1   team
    13   MARECZKO Jakub   20   0   team
    14   DUMOULIN Tom   20   1   team

    Pink points

    1   DUMOULIN Tom   853   1   team
    2   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   533   1   team
    3   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   438   8   teams
    4   PINOT Thibaut   417   13   teams
    5   JUNGELS Bob   364   3   teams
    6   ZAKARIN Ilnur   335   19   teams
    7   NIBALI Vincenzo   299   26   teams
    8   MOLLEMA Bauke   236   0   team
    9   POZZOVIVO Domenico   207   7   teams
    10   POLANC Jan   191   2   teams
    11   STUYVEN Jasper   164   1   team
    12   BENNETT Sam   157   3   teams
    13   YATES Adam   155   9   teams
    14   AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   152   4   teams
    15   GREIPEL André   149   0   team
    16   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   143   1   team
    17   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   139   25   teams
    18   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   125   21   teams
    19   CATALDO Dario   119   3   teams
    19   COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   119   0   team

    %age return
    1   KOZONTCHUK Dmitriy   166.7   5   teams
    2   AGNOLI Valerio   150.0   9   teams
    3   POLANC Jan   103.8   2   teams
    4   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   88.3   1   team
    5   JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   72.6   1   team
    6   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   71.0   21   teams
    7   RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   63.3   2   teams
    8   DEIGNAN Philip   61.0   1   team
    9   ALAFACI Eugenio   60.0   3   teams
    10   CATALDO Dario   59.5   3   teams
    11   DUMOULIN Tom   58.8   1   team
    12   PETILLI Simone   55.1   2   teams
    13   HANSEN Jesper   54.0   3   teams
    14   JUNGELS Bob   53.6   3   teams
    15   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   48.8   8   teams
    16   ZAKARIN Ilnur   48.6   19   teams
    17   STETINA Peter   46.5   0   team
    18   DE PLUS Laurens   46.4   0   team
    19   KISERLOVSKI Robert   44.4   3   teams
    20   PELLIZOTTI Franco   43.0   0   team
    21   PINOT Thibaut   41.6   13   teams
    22   FERRARI Roberto   41.4   1   team
    23   ANDREETTA Simone   41.1   1   team


    Teams suffering withdrawal symptoms: (ordered by spend on non-finishers)
    Thomas and Kangert: Russell23
    Thomas & Pelucchi:DJW
    Thomas & Savitski: Kazistuta
    Thomas: Armchair_Cyclist, BluesInTheBottle, ChrisDK, Leadbelly, Minessa, Spokenspin, Tych23
    Kelderman: Vladimir
    Tangert & Savitsky: Comodoro, Laarsland
    Tangert: BicycleBoy, Crevaison, Flo, GPBlanco, Kabete, Rote_Laterne, Yellow_Knight
    Pelucchi: Del1962, Fauniera, Joelsim, LosBrolin, SafeBet, Scrool07
    Savitski:Shalgo, Squire



    Front runners


    1st: Fauniera
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   438
    PINOT Thibaut   417
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   207
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   125
    ROLLAND Pierre   54
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   52
    TIRALONGO Paolo   15
    EDMONDSON Alexander   15
    (PELUCCHI Matteo   0)

    2nd: Trudgin @ 45 pts
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   438
    PINOT Thibaut   417
    NIBALI Vincenzo   299
    MOLARD Rudy   48
    BERNARD Julien   16
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   15
    CICCONE Giulio   15
    TIRALONGO Paolo   15
    ALAFACI Eugenio   15


    3rd: Josedin @ 108
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   438
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   335
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   139
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   125
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   52
    RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   50
    SBARAGLI Kristian   46
    FOLIFOROV Alexander   15
    EDMONDSON Alexander   15

    4th (top non Gaviria): Jakob747  @ 113
    PINOT Thibaut   417
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   335
    POLANC Jan   191
    YATES Adam   155
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   52
    FOLIFOROV Alexander   15
    RAVASI Edward   15
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   15
    KOSHEVOY Ilia   15

    8th (Only Dumoulin team): Yellow Knight @155

    DUMOULIN Tom   853
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   139
    ROLLAND Pierre   54
    BAUHAUS Phil   41
    (KANGERT Tanel   21)
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   15
    TIRALONGO Paolo   15
    AGNOLI Valerio   15
    KOZONTCHUK Dmitriy   15

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #69 on: May 24, 2017, 00:47 »
    Only just watched it,

    Stage 16 Dropping time, and shorts, on the Queen stage

    Purple points
    Finally, most of us get something right:

    NIBALI Vincenzo   70   26   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   40   42   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   25   1   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   18   1   team
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   15   7   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   19   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   7   6   teams
    MOLLEMA Bauke   5   0   team
    JUNGELS Bob   3   3   teams
    YATES Adam   2   9   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   1   13   teams

    1   AG   135 (Nibali, Landa, Pozzovivo and Zakarin)
    2   Squire   127 (Nibali, Landa, Formolo and Zakarin)
    3   GodChild, Minessa   125 (Nibali, Landa, Pozzovivo)
    5   SafeBet   122
    6   Crevaison   121
    7   Armchair_Cyclist, Scrool07   120
    9   Carlo_Algatrensig, ChrisDK, Comodoro, Torcia86   117
    13   Kazistuta, SemirS   113
    15   GeraintTooFast   , Rote_Laterne   112
    17   AmisVelo, Del1962, Hugo87   111
    20   GPBlanco, Hakkie2, Search, ThePirate81, Vladimir   110
    25   Russell23   72
    26   JustSomeGuy, Trudgin   71
    28   Shalgo, Tych23   65
    30   Fauniera   56
    31   LightBing   55
    32   Jakob747   53
    33   BicycleBoy, DJW, SilverGrenade   52
    36   Flo, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin   51
    40   Joelsim, Josedin   50
    42   Mellow_Velo   45
    43   BluesInTheBottle   42
    44   Kabete   41
    45   Yellow_Knight   18
    46   Spokenspin   10
       Collective_Wisdom   120


    Standings:
    Most teams scored over 100 points, so time to push up the inclusion threshhold
    1   Fauniera   643
    2   GPBlanco   640
    3   Hakkie2   619
    4   Josedin   611
    5   Trudgin   555
    6   Joelsim   532
    7   BluesInTheBottle   524
    8   LightBing   476
    9   Kazistuta   466
    10   SemirS   445
    11   Leadbelly   412
    12   ThePirate81   405
    13   Search   403
    14   Crevaison   383
    15   Yellow_Knight   377
    16   SafeBet   374
    17   AG   365
    17   Jakob747   365
    17   Vladimir   365
    20   Armchair_Cyclist   361
    21   Russell23   360
    22   Flo   353
    22   Laarsland   353
       Collective_Wisdom   359

    Pink Points

    LANDA MEANA Mikel   139   42   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   120   26   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   40   7   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   25   1   team
    YATES Adam   17   9   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   15   6   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   15   25   teams
    SCHLEGEL Michal   14   1   team
    HIRT Jan   10   4   teams
    KISERLOVSKI Robert   10   3   teams
    PETILLI Simone   10   2   teams
    ...
    MOLARD Rudy   -10   1   team
    WOODS Michael   -10   2   teams
    POLANC Jan   -12   2   teams
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   -15   1   team (out of the race for Mellow Velo)
    EDMONDSON Alexander   -15   5   teams (out of the race for DJW, Fauniera, Josedin, SafeBet and SilverGrenade)
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   -15   21   teams
    RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   -25   2   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   -38   4   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   -45   1   team
    PINOT Thibaut   -52   13   teams


    The only team in the red is Dumoulin's Yellow Knight, but through loss of KoM classification standing points (and lack of Landa) rather than losing the  race lead.

    1   Carlo_Algatrensig   319
    2   Minessa   314
    3   AG   302
    4   Squire   299
    5   GodChild   298
    6   GeraintTooFast   296
    7   Comodoro   295
    8   ChrisDK   282
    9   Rote_Laterne   276
    10   Armchair_Cyclist   272
    10   Kazistuta   272
    10   Vladimir   272
    13   Scrool07   268
    13   SemirS   268
    15   Torcia86   264
    16   SafeBet   259
    17   Search   257
    18   ThePirate81   256
    19   Hakkie2   236
    20   GPBlanco   223
    21   Crevaison   210
    22   AmisVelo   203
    23   Del1962   198
    24   LightBing   194
    25   Russell23   182
    25   Tych23   182
    27   BicycleBoy   181
    28   Hugo87   175
    29   Mellow_Velo   166
    30   Joelsim   163
    30   SilverGrenade   163
    32   BluesInTheBottle   157
    33   Shalgo   141
    34   LosBrolin   111
    35   DJW   106
    36   Fauniera   104
    37   Josedin   102
    38   Jakob747   95
    39   Flo   90
    40   JustSomeGuy   89
    41   Laarsland   84
    42   Leadbelly   61
    43   Kabete   59
    44   Trudgin   57
    45   Spokenspin   17
    46   Yellow_Knight   -23
       Collective_Wisdom   262

    Standings
    Only 2 teams are still in the same position as before the rest day: one of them is mid-table, but the other is our leader, Fauniera.  Plenty of change behind him, and a much narrower lead.  The closest challengers, GPBlanco and Crevaison, are up from 7th and 6th respectivey, and behind them AG on the back of a best-of-the-day 14 place rise.  Hakkie, SemirS, Amis Velo, GodChild and Squire are also entries to the top ten.  Yellow Knight's fall is as much down to being Landa-less as Dumoulin's gastric discomfort, but while Quintana is well placed to take advantage, the only Quintana team, Shalgo, would require another 200 pts beyond the 125 additional points  for 1st rather than 2nd, and the 72 remaining pink jersey bonus points, to be competitive.   

    1   Fauniera   1427
    2   GPBlanco   1399
    3   Crevaison   1394
    4   AG   1342
    5   Hakkie2   1339
    6   Trudgin   1335
    7   SemirS   1332
    8   AmisVelo   1325
    9   GodChild   1323
    10   Squire   1321
    11   Josedin   1317
    12   SafeBet   1314
    13   Jakob747   1305
    14   Leadbelly   1262
    15   Laarsland   1242
    16   Joelsim   1227
    17   Flo   1224
    18   Kazistuta   1201
    19   Hugo87   1195
    20   Armchair_Cyclist   1189
    21   JustSomeGuy   1187
    22   Kabete   1184
    23   Del1962   1176
    23   ThePirate81   1176
    25   GeraintTooFast   1175
    26   Vladimir   1165
    27   Tych23   1154
    28   Yellow_Knight   1145
    29   Minessa   1140
    30   LosBrolin   1139
    31   Russell23   1134
    32   LightBing   1127
    33   Rote_Laterne   1112
    34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1084
    35   Scrool07   1076
    36   Search   1051
    37   Shalgo   1030
    38   SilverGrenade   1029
    39   Torcia86   999
    40   Mellow_Velo   990
    41   Comodoro   989
    42   BicycleBoy   982
    43   BluesInTheBottle   981
    44   ChrisDK   948
    45   DJW   914
    46   Spokenspin   843
       Collective_Wisdom   1278
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #70 on: May 24, 2017, 22:31 »
    Stage 17  Cannondale getting into the winning habit

    Purple points

    Just occasionally, several teams make a stage hunter choice that comes off:

    ROLLAND Pierre   70   9   teams
    COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   40   0   team
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka   25   0   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   18   1   team
    SUTHERLAND Rory   15   0   team
    BUSATO Matteo   10   1   team
    DEVENYNS Dries   7   0   team
    GROSSSCHARTNER Felix   5   0   team
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   3   21   teams
    WOODS Michael   2   2   team
    BERNARD Julien   1   1   team

    1   Yellow_Knight   88
    2   ThePirate81   75
    3   Fauniera, GodChild, GPBlanco, Search   73
    7   BicycleBoy, Mellow_Velo, Squire   70
    10   Russell23   13
    11   Hakkie2   5
    12   14 Fraile teams, and Collective Wisdom   3
    26   Trudgin   1

    ThePirate81 infiltrates the ranks of the Gavirians, but only just.1   Fauniera   716
    2   GPBlanco   713
    3   Hakkie2   624
    4   Josedin   614
    5   Trudgin   556
    6   Joelsim   532
    7   BluesInTheBottle   524
    8   ThePirate81   480
    9   LightBing   476
    9   Search   476
    11   Kazistuta   466
    12   Yellow_Knight   465
    13   SemirS   448
    14   Leadbelly   415
    15   Mellow_Velo   403


    Pink Points

    There are some who seemed to think that Polanc was heading for a much bigger point increase at some stage today...

    ROLLAND Pierre   82   9   teams
    POLANC Jan   29   2   teams
    MONFORT Maxime   22   1   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   16   1   team
    BUSATO Matteo   10   1   team
    ...
    YATES Adam   -15   9   teams
    BAUHAUS Phil   -15   2   teams (out of the race for Kazistuta and Yellow Knight)
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   -15   3   teams (out of the race for Jakob747, Joelsim and Scrool07)
    MODOLO Sacha   -15   4   teams (out of the race for LightBing, Scrool07, Search and Torcia86)
    FORMOLO Davide   -16   6   teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   -16   4   teams

    So nothing very dramatic for our teams today:

    1   ThePirate81   83
    1   Yellow_Knight   83
    3   Fauniera   78
    4   GodChild   73
    5   Search   70
    6   GPBlanco   63
    7   Mellow_Velo   61
    8   BicycleBoy   60
    9   Squire   59
    10   Vladimir   23
    11   Spokenspin   8
    12   JustSomeGuy   5
    13   SemirS   3
    14   Del1962   2
    14   Hakkie2   2
    16   Trudgin   1
    17   Kabete   0
    18   AmisVelo   -1
    19   LosBrolin   -2
    20   Tych23   -4
    21   Flo   -5
    22   Josedin   -6
    22   Minessa   -6
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   -7
    24   Laarsland   -7
    26   AG   -8
    26   Crevaison   -8
    28   Jakob747   -9
    28   Shalgo   -9
    30   Russell23   -10
    31   BluesInTheBottle   -13
    31   Leadbelly   -13
    33   SilverGrenade   -15
    34   Carlo_Algatrensig   -16
    34   Comodoro   -16
    34   Joelsim   -16
    37   Hugo87   -17
    38   GeraintTooFast   -18
    38   Rote_Laterne   -18
    40   SafeBet   -19
    41   Kazistuta   -21
    41   LightBing   -21
    43   ChrisDK   -22
    44   Scrool07   -31
    45   Torcia86   -37
    46   DJW   -38
       Collective_Wisdom   -4


    Standings

    The gap opens again at the top, as the top two have Rolland.  Two other teams from the top ten have him: Godchild, up from 9th to reach the virtual podium, and Squire, from 10th to 5th. Despite the loss of Bauhaus, the combination of Dumoulin and Rolland make Yellow Knight the top riser (11 places) of the day.
    1   Fauniera   1505
    2   GPBlanco   1462
    3   GodChild   1396
    4   Crevaison   1386
    5   Squire   1380
    6   Hakkie2   1341
    7   Trudgin   1336
    8   SemirS   1335
    9   AG   1334
    10   AmisVelo   1324
    11   Josedin   1311
    12   Jakob747   1296
    13   SafeBet   1295
    14   ThePirate81   1259
    15   Leadbelly   1249
    16   Laarsland   1235
    17   Yellow_Knight   1228
    18   Flo   1219
    19   Joelsim   1211
    20   JustSomeGuy   1192
    21   Vladimir   1188
    22   Kabete   1184
    23   Armchair_Cyclist   1182
    24   Kazistuta   1180
    25   Del1962   1178
    25   Hugo87   1178
    27   GeraintTooFast   1157
    28   Tych23   1150
    29   LosBrolin   1137
    30   Minessa   1134
    31   Russell23   1124
    32   Search   1121
    33   LightBing   1106
    34   Rote_Laterne   1094
    35   Carlo_Algatrensig   1068
    36   Mellow_Velo   1051
    37   Scrool07   1045
    38   BicycleBoy   1042
    39   Shalgo   1021
    40   SilverGrenade   1014
    41   Comodoro   973
    42   BluesInTheBottle   968
    43   Torcia86   962
    44   ChrisDK   926
    45   DJW   876
    46   Spokenspin   851
       Collective_Wisdom   1274


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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #71 on: May 26, 2017, 00:24 »
    Stage 18 Princess stage (like a queen, but shorter)

    Purple points

    Sometimes a rider picked as a GC contender turns out to be a sstage hunter, to justify at least some of his cost.

    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   70   13   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   40   42   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   25   13   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   20   1   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   15   7   teams
    HIRT Jan   10   4   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   7   19   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   5   25   teams
    MOLLEMA Bauke   3   0   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   1   1   teams

    1   LosBrolin   147
    2   Del1962, Hugo87   135
    4   Carlo_Algatrensig   125
    5   Joelsim   122
    6   Scrool07, SilverGrenade   117
    8   Comodoro, SemirS   115
    10   BluesInTheBottle, Search   110
    12   JustSomeGuy   100
    13   Spokenspin   82
    14   Fauniera, Kabete   80
    16   Flo, Laarsland   77
    18   Crevaison, Jakob747, Leadbelly   72
    21   AmisVelo   70
    22   Tych23   67
    23   AG, Russell23   62
    25   GodChild, LightBing, Minessa   60
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   57
    29   BicycleBoy, Josedin, Squire   52
    32   Kazistuta   50
    33   DJW   47, SafeBet   47
    35   GeraintTooFast, Mellow_Velo, Rote_Laterne, ThePirate81, Torcia86, Vladimir   45
    41   Shalgo   41
    42   ChrisDK, GPBlanco, Hakkie2   40
    45   Trudgin, Yellow_Knight   25
       Collective_Wisdom   52

    1   Fauniera   796
    2   GPBlanco   753
    3   Josedin   666
    4   Hakkie2   664
    5   Joelsim   654
    6   BluesInTheBottle   634
    7   Search   586
    8   Trudgin   581
    9   SemirS   563
    10   LightBing   536
    11   ThePirate81   525
    12   Kazistuta   516
    13   Yellow_Knight   490
    14   Leadbelly   487
    15   Del1962   475
    16   Crevaison   455


    Pink points

    There were changes in time gaps high in the GC, but not many in position.

    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   80   13   teams
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   50   42   teams
    YATES Adam   30   9   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   24   13   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   20   1   team
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   20   25   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   16   6   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   15   7   teams
    ROLLAND Pierre   12   9   teams
    HIRT Jan   10   4   teams
    KISERLOVSKI Robert   10   3   teams
    FOLIFOROV Alexander   10   25   teams
    ...
    SCHLEGEL Michal   -11   1   team
    MOLARD Rudy   -11   1   team
    JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   -14   1   team
    PETILLI Simone   -14   2   teams
    DE BUYST Jasper   -15   1   team (out of the race for AG)
    JUNGELS Bob   -30   3   teams
    POLANC Jan   -32   2   teams

    A positive result, even if only just, for everyone.

    1   SilverGrenade   181
    2   LosBrolin   180
    3   Comodoro   176
    4   Carlo_Algatrensig   175
    5   Del1962   164
    6   BluesInTheBottle   162
    7   Hugo87   158
    8   Joelsim   156
    9   Scrool07   146
    10   Search   142
    11   SemirS   130
    12   BicycleBoy   128
    13   JustSomeGuy   124
    14   GodChild   113
    15   Spokenspin   112
    16   GeraintTooFast   106
    17   Squire   104
    18   Laarsland   102
    19   Fauniera   101
    19   Tych23   101
    21   Flo   100
    21   Rote_Laterne   100
    23   Russell23   97
    24   LightBing   95
    25   Mellow_Velo   92
    26   AmisVelo   90
    26   Crevaison   90
    26   Kabete   90
    29   Jakob747   88
    29   Leadbelly   88
    31   Minessa   85
    32   ThePirate81   83
    33   DJW   80
    33   Josedin   80
    33   Torcia86   80
    36   ChrisDK   72
    36   SafeBet   72
    38   Shalgo   67
    39   Armchair_Cyclist   66
    39   GPBlanco   66
    41   AG   56
    42   Yellow_Knight   52
    43   Hakkie2   50
    44   Vladimir   48
    45   Kazistuta   30
    46   Trudgin   9
       Collective_Wisdom   86

    Standings:

    The top three are unchanged, but Fauniera's lead increases .  Squire, moving from 5th to 4th is the highest placed to change position, and Josedin moves into the top ten, while Del1962 is the mover of the day.

    1   Fauniera   1606
    2   GPBlanco   1528
    3   GodChild   1509
    4   Squire   1484
    5   Crevaison   1476
    6   SemirS   1465
    7   AmisVelo   1414
    8   Hakkie2   1391
    8   Josedin   1391
    10   AG   1390
    11   Jakob747   1384
    12   Joelsim   1367
    12   SafeBet   1367
    14   Trudgin   1345
    15   Del1962   1342
    15   ThePirate81   1342
    17   Laarsland   1337
    17   Leadbelly   1337
    19   Hugo87   1336
    20   Flo   1319
    21   LosBrolin   1317
    22   JustSomeGuy   1316
    23   Yellow_Knight   1280
    24   Kabete   1274
    25   GeraintTooFast   1263
    25   Search   1263
    27   Tych23   1251
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   1248
    29   Carlo_Algatrensig   1243
    30   Vladimir   1236
    31   Russell23   1221
    32   Minessa   1219
    33   Kazistuta   1210
    34   LightBing   1201
    35   SilverGrenade   1195
    36   Rote_Laterne   1194
    37   Scrool07   1191
    38   BicycleBoy   1170
    39   Comodoro   1149
    40   Mellow_Velo   1143
    41   BluesInTheBottle   1130
    42   Shalgo   1088
    43   Torcia86   1042
    44   ChrisDK   998
    45   Spokenspin   963
    46   DJW   956
       Collective_Wisdom   1360
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #72 on: May 26, 2017, 20:40 »
    Stage 19 Yo-yos, and yo-yos that snap.

    More than 90% of us feeling that our choice is vindicated, even if not in the way we expected.

    LANDA MEANA Mikel   70   42   teams
    COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   40   0   team
    ROLLAND Pierre   25   9   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   18   1   team
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   15   1   team
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   10   1   team
    SHALUNOV Evgeny   7   0   team
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   5   0   team
    BUSATO Matteo   3   1   team
    ROTA Lorenzo   2   0   team
    KOSHEVOY Ilia   1   2   teams


    Given that 42 out of 46 teams have Landa, it's not surprising that 8 out of 9 Rolland teams have Landa.
    1   BicycleBoy, Fauniera, GodChild, GPBlanco , Mellow_Velo, Search, Squire, ThePirate81   95
    9   Shalgo   88
    10   Hakkie2   80
    11   Russell23   73
    12   Jakob747, SemirS   71
    14   29 mora Landa teams, and Collective wisdom   70
    43   Yellow_Knight   40
    44   JustSomeGuy, Spokenspin, Trudgin   0


    1   Fauniera   891
    2   GPBlanco   848
    3   Hakkie2   744
    4   Josedin   736
    5   Joelsim   724
    6   BluesInTheBottle   704
    7   Search   681
    8   SemirS   634
    9   ThePirate81   620
    10   LightBing   606
    11   Kazistuta   586
    12   Trudgin   581
    13   Leadbelly   557

    Since Gaviria stopped gaining points, his teams have retained the top 6 spots in this ranking, but 2 of them, those with less mountain support, have dropped to 10th and 12th.


    Pink points
    Gaps near the top close again without change of positions, apart from the most important position swap there is.  But only one team able to gain from that, and one that suffers.  Kruijswijk's fall is more significant in our game than Dumoulin's.

    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   138   1   team
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   88   42   teams
    ROLLAND Pierre   38   9   teams
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   18   1   team
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   15   1   team
    YATES Adam   15   9   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   15   3   teams
    HIRT Jan   12   4   teams
    PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   10   1   team
    ...
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   -24   4   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   -30   25   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   -125   1   teams


    1   Shalgo   219
    2   Fauniera   126
    3   Mellow_Velo   125
    4   Search   124
    5   Kazistuta   115
    6   SilverGrenade   114
    7   Jakob747   111
    8   BicycleBoy   110
    9   Hakkie2   105
    10   Armchair_Cyclist   100
    10   GPBlanco   100
    12   BluesInTheBottle   98
    13   SafeBet   97
    14   Squire   96
    15   ChrisDK   91
    15   ThePirate81   91
    17   Russell23   90
    18   GodChild   89
    19   AG   88
    20   Crevaison   87
    21   Del1962   85
    21   Scrool07   85
    23   DJW   79
    24   Leadbelly   75
    25   Rote_Laterne   73
    26   SemirS   71
    27   GeraintTooFast   64
    27   Vladimir   64
    29   Carlo_Algatrensig   62
    30   Hugo87   61
    31   Flo   58
    31   Minessa   58
    33   AmisVelo   57
    33   LightBing   57
    33   Tych23   57
    36   Joelsim   56
    36   LosBrolin   56
    38   Comodoro   55
    39   Torcia86   54
    40   Josedin   53
    41   Laarsland   51
    42   Kabete   32
    43   Trudgin   4
    44   Spokenspin   -29
    45   JustSomeGuy   -37
    46   Yellow_Knight   -102
       Collective_Wisdom   57


    Standings

    It was not a good day for the leader on the road, but it was in this game.  If it looked uncertain that there was a way to shake Dumoulin yesterday, it looks more so the case for Fauniera here.
    Unless Nibali repeats his stage 20 of last year...

    1   Fauniera   1732
    2   GPBlanco   1628
    3   GodChild   1598
    4   Squire   1580
    5   Crevaison   1563
    6   SemirS   1536
    7   Hakkie2   1496
    8   Jakob747   1495
    9   AG   1478
    10   AmisVelo   1471
    11   SafeBet   1464
    12   Josedin   1444
    13   ThePirate81   1433
    14   Del1962   1427
    15   Joelsim   1423
    16   Leadbelly   1412
    17   Hugo87   1397
    18   Laarsland   1388
    19   Search   1387
    20   Flo   1377
    21   LosBrolin   1373
    22   Trudgin   1349
    23   Armchair_Cyclist   1348
    24   GeraintTooFast   1327
    25   Kazistuta   1325
    26   Russell23   1311
    27   SilverGrenade   1309
    28   Tych23   1308
    29   Shalgo   1307
    30   Kabete   1306
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   1305
    32   Vladimir   1300
    33   BicycleBoy   1280
    34   JustSomeGuy   1279
    35   Minessa   1277
    36   Scrool07   1276
    37   Mellow_Velo   1268
    38   Rote_Laterne   1267
    39   LightBing   1258
    40   BluesInTheBottle   1228
    41   Comodoro   1204
    42   Yellow_Knight   1178
    43   Torcia86   1096
    44   ChrisDK   1089
    45   DJW   1035
    46   Spokenspin   934
       Collective_Wisdom   1417

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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #73 on: May 26, 2017, 21:50 »
    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Flo has gone ahead of me
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #74 on: May 27, 2017, 12:14 »
    Of the top 4 plus one other that I posted team details of  as top contenders on Monday, Fauniera remains top, but the others have dropped to 8th, 12, 22nd and 42nd.

    So which teams and riders now pose a threat to the team that has been top since Kangert's argument with road furniture affected the 5 teams that had been above him at the start of stage 15.

    The lead is beyond that which is likely to be made up simply by stage finish points, but after significant top 10 GC variation, the gaps could  be tiny.

    1st: Fauniera
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   438
    PINOT Thibaut   388
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   323
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   262
    ROLLAND Pierre   193
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   113
    TIRALONGO Paolo   15
    (EDMONDSON Alexander   0)
    (PELUCCHI Matteo   0)


    2nd: GPBlanco @ 104 pts
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   438
    NIBALI Vincenzo   419
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   323
    ROLLAND Pierre   193
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   113
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   68
    KISERLOVSKI Robert   38
    (KANGERT Tanel   21)
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   15

    3rd: GodChild @ 134pts
    NIBALI Vincenzo   419
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   323
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   262
    ROLLAND Pierre   193
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   144
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   113
    CATALDO Dario   105
    FOLIFOROV Alexander   24
    LUDVIGSSON Tobias   15

    4th: Squire @ 142 pts
    NIBALI Vincenzo   419
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   343
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   323
    ROLLAND Pierre   193
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   144
    FORMOLO Davide   128
    KOZONTCHUK Dmitriy   15
    AGNOLI Valerio   15
    (SAVITSKY Ivan   0)

    5th: Crevaison @ 169
    NIBALI Vincenzo   419
    PINOT Thibaut   388
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   343
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   323
    FOLIFOROV Alexander   24
    (KANGERT Tanel   21)
    VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen   15
    PONZI Simone   15
    AGNOLI Valerio   15


    Landa is ubiquitous, and therefore irrelevant to the battle, and Gaviria will surely not add to his haul..  Fauniera is really only vulnerable if Nibali moves up and Pinot does not, but a repeat today of stage 19 for Dumoulin, or Time Trial overhauling of Quintana, means that that is far from impossible. 

    If Nibali and Pinot both get improvements in standing ( as in the above two scenarios, but more extreme) then Crevaison will come into play, especially if one of those expensive, one team riders who are currently first and second fall far enough to Zakarin to overtake them and make the podium.

    If Nibali moves up, but Pinot stays off the podium, then we are probably looking at Zakarin trying to get 28 seconds from Pinot (on the last 14km today or the time trial) as the battle between Squire and those on the virtual podium as it stands.

    But this is cycling: anything can happen.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #75 on: May 27, 2017, 12:34 »
    I  wrote all that without having read of Kruijswijk's DNS today. 

    That really removes GodChild and Squire from the reckoning: so Pinot is key for Fauniera and Crevaison, Nibali for GPBlanco and Crevaison, and Zakarin for Crevaison.  If there is success for Nibali, then stage points still hold the balance.

    What was that last sentence in my previous post?
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #76 on: May 27, 2017, 13:13 »
    So Kruijswijk loses the 135 projected points for 10th place, to the detriment of 25 teams, and riders below him each move up a bit granting some compensation, mainly to the benefit of Formolo teams.

    New top ten, sans Kruijswijk:
    1   Fauniera   1740   (holds position)
    2   GPBlanco   1642   (holds position)
    3   Crevaison   1570   ( up from 5th)
    4=   Hakkie2   1510   (up from 7th)
    4=   Jakob747   1510   (up from 8)
    6   AG   1484   (was 9th)
    7   GodChild   1478   (was 3rd)
    8   SafeBet   1472   (was 11th)
    9   Squire   1468   (was 4th)
    10   Del1962   1436   (was 14th)
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #77 on: May 27, 2017, 20:19 »
    Stage 20 Last throw of the dice for climbers

    Purple points

    PINOT Thibaut   70   13   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   40   19   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   28   1   team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   25   26   teams
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   15   7   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   7   3   teams
    YATES Adam   5   9   teams
    REICHENBACH Sébastien   3   0   team
    MOLLEMA Bauke   2   0   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   1   1   team


    1   Crevaison   135
    2   Jakob747   115
    3   Flo, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin   110
    7   AmisVelo, Del1962, Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Trudgin   95
    12   Fauniera   85
    13   AG   80
    14   Kabete, SafeBet   70
    16   Armchair_Cyclist, Scrool07, Squire   65
    19   Russell23, Tych23   55
    21   BicycleBoy, DJW, SilverGrenade   45
    24   GodChild, Joelsim, Josedin, Minessa, Spokenspin   40
    29   Kazistuta, SemirS   32
    31   GeraintTooFast, Rote_Laterne   30
    33   Shalgo   28
    34   Carlo_Algatrensig, ChrisDK, Comodoro, GPBlanco, Hakkie2, Search, ThePirate81, Torcia86, Vladimir   25
    43   LightBing   15
    44   Mellow_Velo   12
    45   BluesInTheBottle   5
    46   Yellow_Knight   1
       Collective_Wisdom   65

    1   Fauniera   976
    2   GPBlanco   873
    3   Josedin   776
    4   Hakkie2   769
    5   Joelsim   764
    6   BluesInTheBottle   709
    7   Search   706
    8   Trudgin   676
    9   Leadbelly   667
    10   SemirS   666
    11   Crevaison   660
    12   ThePirate81   645
    13   Del1962   640
    14   Jakob747   623
    15   LightBing   621
    16   Kazistuta   618
    17   Flo   613
    17   Laarsland   613

    Pink points

    A lot of these points are likely to be temporary, but Kruijswijk's losses are not.  (Read this as though you had not seen my lunchtime post about the effect of Kruijswijk's withdrawal, because those calculations are included again here)

    PINOT Thibaut   121   13   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   85   26   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   46   19   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   33   1   team
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   17   7   teams
    HIRT Jan   16   4   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   15   6   teams
    HANSEN Jesper   12   3   teams
    KONRAD Patrick   10   4   teams
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   10   1   team
    ...
    DUMOULIN Tom   -110   1   team
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   -135   25   teams


    I am pretty certain that the team with biggest losses today has biggest gains tomorrow.

    1   Crevaison   250
    2   Hugo87   214
    3   Del1962   210
    3   Trudgin   210
    5   Leadbelly   183
    6   Jakob747   176
    7   AG   144
    8   Armchair_Cyclist   143
    9   SafeBet   138
    10   Scrool07   135
    11   Fauniera   131
    12   ChrisDK   108
    12   Hakkie2   108
    14   Kazistuta   104
    15   GPBlanco   90
    16   Search   84
    17   JustSomeGuy   77
    18   Russell23   76
    19   AmisVelo   71
    20   SilverGrenade   63
    21   DJW   51
    22   Laarsland   42
    23   Shalgo   37
    24   LosBrolin   34
    25   Flo   28
    26   BluesInTheBottle   16
    27   Kabete   14
    28   Squire   4
    29   Carlo_Algatrensig   -9
    30   Comodoro   -31
    31   GodChild   -32
    32   GeraintTooFast   -33
    33   Minessa   -37
    34   SemirS   -39
    34   Torcia86   -39
    36   Vladimir   -40
    37   Rote_Laterne   -49
    38   ThePirate81   -50
    39   Spokenspin   -71
    40   Tych23   -74
    41   Joelsim   -87
    42   BicycleBoy   -89
    43   Josedin   -91
    44   LightBing   -120
    45   Mellow_Velo   -128
    46   Yellow_Knight   -248
       Collective_Wisdom   -6


    Standings with one stage, and one big shake-up, to come

    Crevaison leaps from 5th to second, and is the only real challenger, I would suggest, to Fauniera, though I reckon Pinot's win today will have been enough to keep Fauniera safe.  Del 1962, Hugo87, Safebet and Leadbelly are new entries to the top ten as the Kruijswijk teams tumble.  Scrool07 has the biggest (16 place) rise, and Yellow Knight will gain that honour tomorrow.

    1   Fauniera   1863
    2   Crevaison   1813
    3   GPBlanco   1718
    4   Jakob747   1671
    5   Del1962   1637
    6   AG   1622
    7   Hugo87   1611
    8   Hakkie2   1604
    9   SafeBet   1602
    10   Leadbelly   1595
    11   Squire   1584
    12   GodChild   1566
    13   Trudgin   1559
    14   AmisVelo   1542
    15   SemirS   1497
    16   Armchair_Cyclist   1491
    17   Search   1471
    18   Laarsland   1430
    19   Kazistuta   1429
    20   Scrool07   1411
    21   LosBrolin   1407
    22   Flo   1405
    23   Russell23   1387
    24   ThePirate81   1383
    25   SilverGrenade   1372
    26   JustSomeGuy   1356
    27   Josedin   1353
    28   Shalgo   1344
    29   Joelsim   1336
    30   Kabete   1320
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   1296
    32   GeraintTooFast   1294
    33   Vladimir   1260
    34   BluesInTheBottle   1244
    35   Minessa   1240
    36   Tych23   1234
    37   Rote_Laterne   1218
    38   ChrisDK   1197
    39   BicycleBoy   1191
    40   Comodoro   1173
    41   Mellow_Velo   1140
    42   LightBing   1138
    43   DJW   1086
    44   Torcia86   1057
    45   Yellow_Knight   930
    46   Spokenspin   863
       Collective_Wisdom   1411

    The top two will both lose points tomorrow (as Dumoulin overtakes them), and Crevaison has 2 riders vulnerable to being overtaken by Dumoulin. Also in Fauniera's favour is that Pinot overhauling Nibali is neutral to Crevaison (who has both), but advantageous to Fauniera.
    But there is a way in for Crevaison, if we were to end up with a Dumoulin-Nibali-Zakarin podium.  I'm also assuming that Pozzovivo can hang on to his minute and a half over Mollema, but if that does not happen, that would be a 25 point swing to Crevaison which might bring it into stage points range to decide.
     
    If you want to examine other permutations, here's the spreadsheet.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #78 on: May 28, 2017, 17:14 »
    Stage 21 TT to finish

    The Purple classification first.

    If I said that the final TT was inconsequential, you might not agree, but in this minor classification it was:
    VAN EMDEN Jos   70   0   team
    DUMOULIN Tom   40   1   team
    QUINZIATO Manuel   25   0   team
    KIRYIENKA Vasil   15   1   team
    ROSSKOPF Joey   10   0   team
    BARTA Jan   7   0   team
    PREIDLER Georg   5   0   team
    JUNGELS Bob   3   3   teams
    TRATNIK Jan   2   0   team
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   1   4   teams

    1   Yellow_Knight   40
    2   AG   15
    3   Kazistuta, Mellow_Velo, SemirS   3
    6   DJW   , GPBlanco, Hugo87, Kabete      1
    10   Everyone else  0

    Final standings in the minor classification:
    1   Fauniera   976
    2   GPBlanco   874
    3   Josedin   776
    4   Hakkie2   769
    5   Joelsim   764
    6   BluesInTheBottle   709
    7   Search   706
    8   Trudgin   676
    9   SemirS   669
    10   Leadbelly   667
    11   Crevaison   660
    12   ThePirate81   645
    13   Del1962   640
    14   Jakob747   623
    15   Kazistuta   621
    15   LightBing   621
    17   Flo   613
    17   Laarsland   613
    19   AG   592
    20   LosBrolin   589
    21   GodChild   583
    21   Squire   583
    23   AmisVelo   579
    24   Yellow_Knight   571
    25   Hugo87   570
    26   SafeBet   564
    27   Russell23   563
    28   Mellow_Velo   558
    29   Armchair_Cyclist   553
    30   SilverGrenade   545
    31   Scrool07   538
    32   Tych23   530
    33   JustSomeGuy   514
    34   BicycleBoy   509
    35   Vladimir   505
    36   Kabete   491
    37   Shalgo   478
    38   Rote_Laterne   449
    39   Minessa   444
    40   DJW   431
    40   GeraintTooFast   431
    42   Comodoro   412
    43   Carlo_Algatrensig   401
    44   ChrisDK   388
    45   Spokenspin   370
    46   Torcia86   343
       Collective_Wisdom   549
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #79 on: May 28, 2017, 17:57 »
    Stage 21  Pink points

    More losses than gains to finish off, but your rivals might have lost points too.

    DUMOULIN Tom   281   1   team
    JUNGELS Bob   18   3   teams
    KIRYIENKA Vasil   15   1   team
    ...
    YATES Adam   -15   9   teams
    PINOT Thibaut   -50   13   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -60   26   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -125   1   team


    As predicted (and eminently predictable), Yellow Knight crushes the daily competition.

    1   Yellow_Knight   281
    2   Mellow_Velo   7
    3   Joelsim   4
    3   LightBing   4
    3   Russell23   4
    3   Tych23   4
    7   Josedin   2
    8   Spokenspin   0
    9   DJW   -6
    10   SilverGrenade   -7
    11   BicycleBoy   -11
    11   BluesInTheBottle   -11
    13   Kazistuta   -38
    13   SemirS   -38
    15   AG   -42
    16   Kabete   -45
    17   Fauniera   -46
    17   Flo   -46
    17   LosBrolin   -46
    20   Laarsland   -50
    20   Leadbelly   -50
    22   GPBlanco   -55
    23   Armchair_Cyclist   -56
    23   ChrisDK   -56
    23   Comodoro   -56
    23   GodChild   -56
    23   Hakkie2   -56
    23   Minessa   -56
    23   Scrool07   -56
    23   Search   -56
    23   Squire   -56
    23   ThePirate81   -56
    23   Torcia86   -56
    34   Carlo_Algatrensig   -57
    35   Vladimir   -60
    36   Jakob747   -61
    37   Rote_Laterne   -71
    37   SafeBet   -71
    39   GeraintTooFast   -75
    40   Hugo87   -101
    41   AmisVelo   -106
    41   Crevaison   -106
    41   Del1962   -106
    44   JustSomeGuy   -110
    45   Trudgin   -111
    46   Shalgo   -121
       Collective_Wisdom   -56

    Final positions

    In the end, Fauniera only had one rider overtaken by Dumoulin and Crevaison had two, and so the winning margin more than doubled on the last day.  AG, Hakkie2 and Leadbelly have some promotion within the top ten, and Squire replaces Hugo87 to get into the final top 10.  Inevitably, Yellow Knight is the Dumoulin-powered top riser of the day, but for the only team with the race winner to end up 35th of 46 (and that with the advantage of 162 pink jersey wearer bonus points), and the only team with the rider 2nd in GC to be only 2 places better off, shows that this was an unusual edition of the game.

    1   Fauniera   1817
    2   Crevaison   1707
    3   GPBlanco   1663

    4   Jakob747   1610
    5   AG   1580
    6   Hakkie2   1548
    7   Leadbelly   1545
    8   Del1962   1531
    8   SafeBet   1531
    10   Squire   1528
    11   GodChild   1510
    11   Hugo87   1510
    13   SemirS   1459
    14   Trudgin   1448
    15   AmisVelo   1436
    16   Armchair_Cyclist   1435
    17   Search   1415
    18   Kazistuta   1391
    18   Russell23   1391
    20   Laarsland   1380
    21   SilverGrenade   1365
    22   LosBrolin   1361
    23   Flo   1359
    24   Josedin   1355
    24   Scrool07   1355
    26   Joelsim   1340
    27   ThePirate81   1327
    28   Kabete   1275
    29   JustSomeGuy   1246
    30   Carlo_Algatrensig   1239
    31   Tych23   1238
    32   BluesInTheBottle   1233
    33   Shalgo   1223
    34   GeraintTooFast   1219
    35   Yellow_Knight   1211
    36   Vladimir   1200
    37   Minessa   1184
    38   BicycleBoy   1180
    39   Mellow_Velo   1147
    39   Rote_Laterne   1147
    41   LightBing   1142
    42   ChrisDK   1141
    43   Comodoro   1117
    44   DJW   1080
    45   Torcia86   1001
    46   Spokenspin   863
       Collective_Wisdom   1355


    Congratulations to Fauniera and rest of the podium, and thanks to all for joining in.

    1 place off top 1/3 of the field: better than my usual.

    I'll do a bit of rider data crunching tonight or tomorrow.
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #80 on: May 28, 2017, 18:42 »
    Thanks AC for organizing the Game once again  :cool
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #81 on: May 29, 2017, 00:32 »
    wow - I cant believe after all that I got 5th !!!


    awesome work AC.


    and well done Fauniera     :cool
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    Re: 2017 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #82 on: May 29, 2017, 11:24 »
    Some number crunching:

    Best scoring riders:
    (at least a stage win worth of points)

    The overwhelming favourite to win was simply deemed too expensive by nearly everyone, and the one who did win was several hundred points dearer than riders who most pundits thought had a better chance.
    Pinot finished behind Nibali, but gets the podium of point earners through better stage placings.  Gaviria and Landa (on plan B) are the main riders whose place points are more important than GC.

    1   DUMOULIN Tom   890   1   team
    2   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   605   1   team
    3   PINOT Thibaut   459   13   teams
    4   NIBALI Vincenzo   444   26   teams
    5   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   438   8   teams
    6   ZAKARIN Ilnur   389   19   teams
    7   JUNGELS Bob   377   3   teams
    8   LANDA MEANA Mikel   323   42   teams
    9   POZZOVIVO Domenico   279   7   teams
    10   MOLLEMA Bauke   221   0   team
    11   YATES Adam   192   9   teams
    12   POLANC Jan   190   2   teams
    12   ROLLAND Pierre   190   9   teams
    14   COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   171   0   team
    15   STUYVEN Jasper   164   1   team
    16   BENNETT Sam   157   3   teams
    17   GREIPEL André   149   0   team
    18   FORMOLO Davide   143   6   teams
    18   IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka   143   0   team
    20   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   138   1   team
    21   VAN GARDEREN Tejay   136   13   teams
    22   HIRT Jan   122   4   teams
    23   EWAN Caleb   118   0   team
    24   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   113   21   teams
    25   CATALDO Dario   111   3   teams
    25   MONFORT Maxime   111   1   team
    27   SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   108   0   team
    28   REICHENBACH Sébastien   95   0   team
    29   KONRAD Patrick   91   4   teams
    30   VAN EMDEN Jos   88   0   team
    31   DILLIER Silvan   85   0   team
    32   MARECZKO Jakub   80   0   team
    33   AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   77   4   teams
    34   FERRARI Roberto   75   1   team
    35   DUPONT Hubert   70   0   team


    If any team manager is building its pride on purple points, here are the highest scorers in that category:
    1   DUMOULIN Tom   380   1   team
    2   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   353   8   teams
    3   QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   215   1   team
    4   JUNGELS Bob   212   3   teams
    5   PINOT Thibaut   193   13   teams
    6   LANDA MEANA Mikel   175   42   teams
    7   GREIPEL André   149   0   team
    8   ZAKARIN Ilnur   142   19   teams
    9   NIBALI Vincenzo   129   26   teams
    10   COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   121   0   teams
    11   ROLLAND Pierre   120   9   teams
    12   EWAN Caleb   118   0   team
    13   BENNETT Sam   117   3   teams
    14   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   113   1   team
    15   STUYVEN Jasper   109   1   team

    Percentage returns
    1   KOZONTCHUK Dmitriy   166.7   5   teams
    2   AGNOLI Valerio   150.0   9   teams
    3   LANDA MEANA Mikel   109.9   42   teams
    4   POLANC Jan   103.3   2   teams
    5   KISERLOVSKI Robert   93.3   3   teams
    6   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   85.2   1   team
    7   DEIGNAN Philip   73.2   1   team
    8   FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   64.2   21   teams
    9   PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   63.8   1   team
    10   DUMOULIN Tom   61.4   1   team
    11   ALAFACI Eugenio   60.0   3   teams
    12   ROLLAND Pierre   59.0   9   teams
    13   ZAKARIN Ilnur   56.5   19   teams
    14   JUNGELS Bob   55.5   3   teams
    15   CATALDO Dario   55.5   3   teams
    16   JANSE VAN RENSBURG Jacques   51.6   1   team
    17   PETILLI Simone   51.4   2   teams
    18   ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew   50.5   0   team
    19   BERNARD Julien   50.0   1   team
    20   POZZOVIVO Domenico   49.6   7   teams
    21   HIRT Jan   49.0   4   teams
    22   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   48.8   8   teams
    23   NIBALI Vincenzo   45.9   26   teams
    24   PELLIZOTTI Franco   45.8   0   team
    25   PINOT Thibaut   45.8   13   teams
    26   MONFORT Maxime   41.6   1   team
    27   DE PLUS Laurens   41.3   0   team
    28   ANDREETTA Simone   41.1   1   team
    29   BIDARD François   40.9   0   team
    30   FERRARI Roberto   40.3   1   team
    31   HANSEN Jesper   40.0   3   teams


    Impeccable picks

    DUMOULIN Tom
    PINOT Thibaut
    NIBALI Vincenzo
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
    ZAKARIN Ilnur
    JUNGELS Bob
    LANDA MEANA Mikel
    POLANC Jan
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas
    PELLIZOTTI Franco
    PETILLI Simone
    PLAZA MOLINA Ruben
    KISERLOVSKI Robert
    DEIGNAN Philip
    AGNOLI Valerio


    Most popular picks
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   323   42   teams *
    NIBALI Vincenzo   444   26   teams *
    FOLIFOROV Alexander   26   25   teams *
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   9   25   teams *
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   113   21   teams *
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   389   19   teams *
    PINOT Thibaut   459   13   teams
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay   136   13   teams
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   15   10   teams *
    KANGERT Tanel   21   10   teams *
    THOMAS Geraint   69   10   teams
    TIRALONGO Paolo   15   10   teams *
    AGNOLI Valerio   15   9   teams
    PONZI Simone   15   9   teams
    ROLLAND Pierre   190   9   teams
    YATES Adam   192   9   teams

    (asterisked riders made up the Collective Wisdom team, which came exactly halfway through the field)

    Best Possible team
    My record for doing this accurately is not good, and if there is a way of getting Excel to work it out definitively I don't know it, so the best I can come up with is:

    DUMOULIN Tom
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
    LANDA MEANA Mikel
    POLANC Jan
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar
    DE PLUS Laurens
    PETILLI Simone
    PLAZA MOLINA Ruben

    for a total of 2248 (and a popularity score that would have been the second lowest)

    Not really related to this game, but for the last few GTs I have set up a ninja thread: highest placed rider with no daily top ten placing: it was Hubert Dupont in 19th place.

    Spreadsheet here for further post mortem analysis of your efforts
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