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Giro 2017 - doping thread
« on: May 04, 2017, 20:19 »
Sad news: Two riders from  #bardiani Bardiani caught on out-of-competition tests, if my italian is good enough.
It's Ruffoni and BattaglinPirazzi. Will the whole team be thrown out then?

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia//04-05-2017/giro-100-italia-doping-positivi-due-italiani-bardiani-20066282442.shtml?cmpid=shortener_28b299b2zI

 EDITED: somehow I got the name wrong  :slow
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #1 on: May 04, 2017, 21:05 »
    Sad news: Two riders from  #bardiani Bardiani caught on out-of-competition tests, if my italian is good enough.
    It's Ruffoni and Battaglin. Will the whole team be thrown out then?

    http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia//04-05-2017/giro-100-italia-doping-positivi-due-italiani-bardiani-20066282442.shtml?cmpid=shortener_28b299b2zI
    Pirazzi, not Battaglin. ;)

    Confirmed by the UCI now: UCI statement on Nicola Ruffoni, Stefano Pirazzi and UCI Professional Continental Team Bardiani CSF

    Don't necessarily think the whole team will be thrown out - they'll start with 7 riders, and that's it.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #2 on: May 04, 2017, 21:15 »
    That's it, 10 push-ups for me and a beer for Battaglin when he comes around to Bergen. Wrongful accusation, how shameful  :S

    I guess they'll have to admit to using or B-sample comes up positive it before the team suspension comes into play.?
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #3 on: May 04, 2017, 21:21 »
    Italian cycling keeps on trucking
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #4 on: May 04, 2017, 21:59 »
    Bardiani must have gotten desperate ahead of Giro 100 in light of the poor season they have had so far.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #5 on: May 04, 2017, 22:44 »
    mmh, not sure. At the beginning of April Bardiani sent out a press release about their 10 days pre Giro camp saying that Ruffoni was unable to attend the camp because he was sick - looks like he found a different way to get back in shape...
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #7 on: May 06, 2017, 11:43 »
    I wonder what Savio is thinking about with this news.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #9 on: May 09, 2017, 23:02 »
    I posted this on another thread - the prostrate can upset a lot of blood test values when it goes whacko. So I'll be watching for more news on this case. Maybe this is the old standby excuse - point to something else - maybe it is a real variance.

    We shall see.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #10 on: May 10, 2017, 10:57 »
    I posted this on another thread - the prostrate can upset a lot of blood test values when it goes whacko. So I'll be watching for more news on this case. Maybe this is the old standby excuse - point to something else - maybe it is a real variance.
    The problem I have with this 'explanation' is: What about Pirazzi?
    Two riders testing positive for the same substance on two consecutive days ... it would be an awful lot of 'coincidence' if both of them had an inflamed prostate at the same time!
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #11 on: May 10, 2017, 22:37 »
    The problem I have with this 'explanation' is: What about Pirazzi?
    Two riders testing positive for the same substance on two consecutive days ... it would be an awful lot of 'coincidence' if both of them had an inflamed prostate at the same time!

    True.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #14 on: May 18, 2017, 12:38 »
    yes, and he is doing a good job. He also worked with Purito for years.

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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #15 on: May 18, 2017, 13:25 »
    Love Piepoli. Good to see him happy because he sounded so incredibly sad in an interview some years ago. I destroyed my career and my life with doping. I will never be at peace with what I have done, he says in the article linked. It also says it was Joaquim Rodriguez that initially helped him back. Piepoli was super strong but never competitive in GTs before Saunier. He has won nearly all spanish one week races. I remember an old interview where he said he would never get massages except in races, he was so dedicated.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #16 on: May 19, 2017, 09:13 »
    Sure, it doesn't look great.

    But, call me naïve, is having an ex-doper as coach a guarantee that the rider he coaches will also dope?
    On the contrary, even - I'll liken it to 'reformed criminals' teaching the youth about the dangers of *whatever criminal activity they did*.

    It requires a true change of heart on behalf of the ex-doper, of course.
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    « Reply #17 on: May 19, 2017, 09:34 »
    sure it's not great to have dozens (hundreds?) of dopers still working in pro-cycling, but those are really non-news to be honest. And personally I feel better about Piepoli than Riis, Zabel, Aldag and so on
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #18 on: May 19, 2017, 15:37 »
    The problem I have with this 'explanation' is: What about Pirazzi?
    Two riders testing positive for the same substance on two consecutive days ... it would be an awful lot of 'coincidence' if both of them had an inflamed prostate at the same time!

    B-sample came back positive. Pirazzi and Ruffoni sacked by team.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #21 on: October 20, 2017, 08:37 »
    not really Giro related, but as he was signed in June to fill up one of the newly free spots in the team...

    #bardiani Michael Bresciani tested positive in his first race.

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    « Reply #22 on: October 20, 2017, 14:04 »
    not really Giro related, but as he was signed in June to fill up one of the newly free spots in the team...

    #bardiani Michael Bresciani tested positive in his first race.


    “I know I haven’t done anything wrong. The problem is that my mother takes Lasix (a brand name for furosemide) at meal times. While she was dividing the tablets it must have got into my plate,” La Gazzetta dello Sport report Bresciani as saying.

    “The UCI is studying my case and has yet to issue a verdict. But I don’t think I can be punished for anything more than negligence.”


     :-x

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bardiani-csf-rider-blames-positive-doping-test-on-his-mothers-medicine/
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #23 on: October 20, 2017, 18:04 »
    “I know I haven’t done anything wrong. The problem is that my mother takes Lasix (a brand name for furosemide) at meal times. While she was dividing the tablets it must have got into my plate,” La Gazzetta dello Sport report Bresciani as saying.

    “The UCI is studying my case and has yet to issue a verdict. But I don’t think I can be punished for anything more than negligence.”


     :-x

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bardiani-csf-rider-blames-positive-doping-test-on-his-mothers-medicine/

    That just sounds soooo, uhm, how should I say it, likely? Why am I so not surprised.  :S
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #24 on: October 20, 2017, 18:21 »
    That just sounds soooo, uhm, how should I say it, likely? Why am I so not surprised.  :S

    It's the same defence that the Tennis player Sara Errani used and I think she got her ban reduced so it looks like it might be the go to excuse for dopers in the future.
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    Re: Giro 2017 - doping thread
    « Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 17:58 »
    It's the same defence that the Tennis player Sara Errani used and I think she got her ban reduced so it looks like it might be the go to excuse for dopers in the future.
    "Mamma put her pills on the counter next to the chopped-up lardo, confused them & ended up putting the pills into the carbonara!"

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