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Stage: 1 - 1 July : Düsseldorf ITT, 14.00 km
« on: June 27, 2017, 15:20 »

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The route

Running from Saturday July 1st to Sunday July 23rd 2017, the 104th Tour de France will be made up of 21 stages and will cover a total distance of 3,540 kilometres.
- 9 flat stages
- 5 hilly stages
- 5 mountain stages including altitude finishes (La Planche des Belles Filles, Peyragudes, Izoard)
- 2 individual time-trials stages
- 2 rest days
The 2017 Tour de France will include a total of 23 mountains climbs or hills and altitude finishes ranked in second, first or HC class.

A nd so begins the 104th La Grande Boucle, the race because of design every second will count, looking through the race the stages to win or lose time are few and fare between, to make back time there on papaer are even fewer opportunities, unless it rains and the winds pick up then it could be an amazing race  :D

Stage 1 will be about seconds gained and lost, the 14 km flat course will be a power ITT for the first #yellow

Stage: 1 - 1 July : Düsseldorf ITT, 14.00 km, #tt


Of the 13 kilometres of the inaugural time-trial course, close to 10 will be set on the banks of the Rhine river or the bridges above it… and bends can be counted on the fingers of both hands! There will be no or almost no mystery: the “rouleurs” will have their word to say. In this speciality where a new generation is showing up, a multiple world-champion boosted by the support of his fans could well be the fastest man





JSGs riders to watch



Might just be long enough for the panzerwagon to take the win


Küng will be let loose with all afterburners fired to get the #bmc car as high up in the caravan as possible, plus a stage win and leaders jeresy will be a nice bonus

Could be one of the riders to watch the whole tour, has a real chance of a sneaky top 5 GC and a podium on stage 1

Similar to Küng in that a high place really helps the team, will be there or there abouts

The big question is can Little Richard win the whole show, he will be looking to be on the front foot here and Stage 3



 


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  • Of course, if this turns out someday to be the industry standard integrated handlebar-computer-braking solution then I'll eat my kevlar-reinforced aerodynamic hat.

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    I'd add Van Emden to that list.

    Stage: 1 - 1 July : Düsseldorf ITT, 14.00 km, #tt

    Of the 13(?) kilometres of the inaugural time-trial course, close to 10 will be set on the banks of the Rhine river or the bridges above it… and bends can be counted on the fingers of both hands!

    Prudhomme must be losing the plot. :P

    It's 14km not 13km, and does he suffer from polydactylism as I see twelve bends.
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    I'd add Van Emden to that list.

    Prudhomme must be losing the plot. :P

    It's 14km not 13km, and does he suffer from polydactylism as I see twelve bends.

    He was next on my list but as the prediction game has 5 decided to stop there
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    I put Roglic as one of the breakthroughs for this Tour, and I think he'll show his strength right on first stage.
    Might even take the win.

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    Don't see Porte being that high up Stage 1. Conventional wisdom is to treat #yellow like the plague until week 2 these days and he certainly doesn't need any extra pressure to crack.

    It's an odd length, Martin, Castro and Roglic will definitely be up there.


    My wildcard guess would be a sprinter - Matthews, GVA or Sagan
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    I think its too long for a sprinter.

    Porte has been flying in TT's this year ... but I still think Martin will take it.
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    I'd add Van Emden to that list.

    Prudhomme must be losing the plot. :P

    It's 14km not 13km, and does he suffer from polydactylism as I see twelve bends.
    Meh, two of those you count are so gradual you almost can't count them. This is going to go to a TT man. Which one? I haven't the faintest. I've still got that Donald Duck icon somebody gave me once - I'll bet that icon that this goes to a known TT specialist.[1] Could be Martin, could be Phinney (but I don't think Phinney is going to take it). Who else is a TT spec?
     1. Make sure you let me know beforehand if you are going to take me up on this! I'm not gonna argue about it after the fact!  :)
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    It was this one, right?


     
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    I think I will be cheering for the flying Slovenian! 
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    typical  :D
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    Weather forecast is for heavy rain showers IIRC. Should make it a complete lottery, and hopefully decent television (and it'll doubtless mess up loads of fantasy predictions)
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    Weather forecast is for heavy rain showers IIRC. Should make it a complete lottery, and hopefully decent television (and it'll doubtless mess up loads of fantasy predictions)

    Oh, yeah! Wet roads / dry roads / drying roads could completely turn results upside down!

    Even wet wet wetter could change results.
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    It was this one, right?


     
    :D
    Yup - that's the one!  I won't concede, but this rain forecast certainly changes my confidence level!
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    Looks like the weather report is clearing up after 13.00 cet
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    Looks like the weather report is clearing up after 13.00 cet
    That's not what googling 'weather dusseldorf july 1' tells me - but the probability of rain drops below 50% somewhere in the afternoon hours.

    I would rather it rained the whole time, than rained and dryed. The one good thing is that if it rains hard in the morning, the road grease should be cleared off.
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    That's not what googling 'weather dusseldorf july 1' tells me - but the probability of rain drops below 50% somewhere in the afternoon hours.

    I would rather it rained the whole time, than rained and dryed. The one good thing is that if it rains hard in the morning, the road grease should be cleared off.

    I agree, better to rain all through the stage or just rain hard to clean the roads and clear up before the start.
    If the weather dries out during the stage, we could see vastly different times between the first riders and the last ones.

    Luckily it's a prologue and the favorites are going to be the last ones on the road.
    So the weather won't have a major impact on the GC.
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    Question: as weather is expected to influence the outcome, is there a rain-radar-tracker website for this region? (World Championship tip: we have a good one in Bergen  :D )
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    from Dan Martin's blog in the Irish Times today. He said he worked a lot on his time trialing lately:

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    "Unfortunately we had a bit of a mechanical issue in the [Dauphiné] time trial, something which it cost me a lot of time. I can’t go into details about what happened, because of the sponsors [of the equipment in question], but I lost a lot of time that I wouldn’t otherwise have. One plus for the Tour is that it means that people will still underestimate me in the time trial. But I am very happy with the progress I have made. The legs were good there and afterwards, I seem to have got even better. I have never felt better going into the Tour de France.”

    let's see how it goes :cool
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    Oops I got my Martins confused. Who's going to underestimate Tony Martin in a time trial? I wondered. Then I wondered what difference it woud make if anyone did. is Froome going to soft pedal because he thinks the panzerwagen is off colour? Then I realised it was Dan talking but I'm not sure it changes anything.
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    Hi everyone.

    I'm new here so a big HELLO to you all. :)


    I'm watching the first stage ITT and was surprised to see an individual time trial as the first stage. I saw that Valverde crashed and then heard that a few other big names decided not to start the stage.


    I'm wondering how this affects the overall GC. With those not starting stage 1 or crashing out of the stage does that mean that their Tour is over or is there some sort of safeguard which means that they will be able to continue and if so what will the time differences be?

    Thanks in advance. :)
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    First of all, welcome to VR! :welcome

    I'm watching the first stage ITT and was surprised to see an individual time trial as the first stage. I saw that Valverde crashed and then heard that a few other big names decided not to start the stage.

    I'm wondering how this affects the overall GC. With those not starting stage 1 or crashing out of the stage does that mean that their Tour is over or is there some sort of safeguard which means that they will be able to continue and if so what will the time differences be?
    Since this was a regular ITT and not a prologue (<8 km), those who didn't finish the stage (Valverde & Izagirre) are out of the Tour. Not that they'd be able to ride on with their injuries.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "a few other big names decided not to start the stage". Of course there are some star riders who chose not to ride the Tour (or weren't selected by their teams) - and they logically didn't start the stage.
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    Well, there we go. Done and dusted. Weather awful or awfuller. Too many chutes. Quintana is going to miss Valverde - he has done a lot more good for Nairo in GTs than most ppl credit him.

    For Sky, I don't think there could be a better result. Sky doesn't have to work to protect yellow until stage 5, and they can choose NOT to defend then. GT will most likely remain in yellow until then, although there is a minor chance he will lose it at Longwy (stage 3). And Sky won't care then, either. So Froome and Sky mates are well placed, and ALL the challengers are on the back foot on day 1. Not a good start for those who want to beat Froome. Sagan has a better start for yellow than all the GC challengers chasing Froome. I won't be surprised if Sagan takes Longwy, and gets yellow for a couple of days.

    If anybody had taken me up on the icon bet, I would be switching to Donald sniffing glue. But, nobody took it up! I think I'll see if I can get a better photo of one of my regular beasts to use anyway.
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    As much as I'm pleased for Thomas today has made me realise that I don't like Grand Tours opening with this sort of length TT. Either have a road stage or a prologue of about 6km. Time gaps would be smaller and so chances of the jersey swapping because of time bonuses is more likely. I think for the jersey to swap before stage 5 either Matthews or Sagan will have to win all 3 stage between now and then and I can't see that happening.
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    Has anybody seen what Izagirre's status is? I can't find anything. His team seems to have terrible communications too.

    I hate slippery TTs:(
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    Has anybody seen what Izagirre's status is? I can't find anything. His team seems to have terrible communications too.

    I hate slippery TTs:(
    UAE and Bahrain got no coverage at all. I wonder if it has to do with politics?
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    Hi LukasCPH and thanks for your reply :)

    I'm sorry I was just listening to the commentators on Eurosport and heard that a few big names hadn't even started the stage. It came after Valverde had crashed out and I thought that they were meaning that due to the dangerous conditions some riders had not started the stage. I now realise that they meant that some big names were not competing in the tour altogether. LOL... that will teach me to not to start watching the stage so late in the day.

    I was very confused about my post. When I got the email notifying me someone had replied to my post I clicked on the link in the email to view the reply which was: http://velorooms.com/index.php?topic=8599.new;topicseen#new    I got Error 404 Sorry, but the requested page does not exist.

    I then went to my profile page and clicked on 'My Posts' and discovered that the title had changed from 'Stage 1 and GC' to 'Re: Stage: 1 - 1 July : Düsseldorf ITT, 14.00 km'

    It appears as though someone has moved my post, disregarded my post title and moved the text elsewhere.

    I would have been ok with that except no one told me they were moving it and did not provide a link for me. Hummmmm ???   :D
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     TT tyres being blamed for a lot of the crashes.
    The Jumbo trio were using them as was Nicholas Roche.
    You would think that Jumbo would have cottoned on, if not after the first, but the second.
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