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Long Lives
« on: August 08, 2017, 16:58 »
A tribute to all those greats of our sport who withstood at least 90 years.

In bold are those still alive on 8 August 2017

*fr Robert Marchand (26/11/1911) - Hour record holder for 100+ year old (24.1km in 2012; 26.927km in 2014) and 100km record holder for 100+ year old (4h 17'27"), Hour record holder for 105+ year old (22.547km in 2017) winner of a junior race in 1925 but considered to small to turn pro.
 *be Émile Brichard (20/12/1899-08/07/2004) - Participant at the 1926 Tour of France, was the last surviving Belgian WWI soldier
*au  *usa Alfred Timothy Goullet (05/04/1891-11/03/1995) - 15 Six-Days winner
*it Attilio Pavesi (01/10/1910-02/08/2011) - Olympic Champion 1932 in-race and 100km TTT
 *fr Fred Oliveri (??/??/1905-??/??/??) - Former technical director of the French national team. Was 100 years old but the year of his death unknown to me
*fr Pierre Cogan (10/01/1914-05/01/2013) - Winner of the GP des Nations 1937 - dual stage winner at the 1936 Paris-Nice
*fr (*it ?) Guerrino Camellini (31/10/1918) - 2nd at the 1948 Nice-Puget-Théniers-Nice, Fermo's brother. I can see no report that he passed away.
 *ch Ferdi Kübler (24/07/1919-30/12/2016) -  #rainbow World Champion 1951, Tour of France winner 1950, Liège-Bastogne-Liège winner 1951 & 1952, Walloon Arrow winner 1951 & 1952, Bordeaux-Paris winner 1953
 *ch Gottfried Weilenmann (29/03/1920) - Winner of the Tour of Switzerland 1949, 2nd at the 1952 Worlds
 *fr Émile Idée (19/07/1920) - Winner of the Grand Prix des Nations (occupied zone version) 1942, Paris-Reims 1942, 2nd at the 1948 Paris-Roubaix
 *it Giovanni Corrieri (07/02/1920-22/01/2017) - Winner of Sassari-Cagliari 1952, 7 stages at the Tour of Italy and 3 of them at the Tour of France
*fr Albert Bourlon (23/11/1916-16/10/2013) - Stage winner at the 1947 Tour of France after 253km solo breakaway, prisoner of War in Germany, escaping three times, the third one successfully, landed in Romania where he won the Romanian classic Bucarest-Ploesti-Bucarest and several cyclocrosses there in 1944 (source Jean Bobet in "Le vélo à l'heure allemande)
 *fr Sylvain Marcaillou (11/02/1911-28/09/2007) - Winner of Trouville-Paris 1936, 2nd at the 1937 Paris-Nice, 5th at the Tour of France 1937 & 1939
 *it Cesare Del Cancia (06/05/1915-25/04/2011) - Winner of the 1937 Milan-Sanremo
*it Fermo Camellini (07/12/1914-27/08/2010) - Winner of the 1948 Walloon Arrow and the 1946 Paris-Nice
 *it Vito Ortelli (05/07/1921-24/02/2017) - winner of Milan-Turin 1945 & 1946, 2nd of the 1949 Milan-Sanremo
 *be Émile Masson jr (01/09/1915-02/01/2011) - Winner of the 1939 Paris-Roubaix and winner of the 1946 Bordeaux-Paris after 5 years of captivity in a Nazi camp
*it Ambrogio Morelli (04/12/1905-10/10/2000) - Winner of the Tour of Piedmont in 1930, 2 stages at the 1935 Tour of France which he finished 2nd, 4th at the 1930 Tour of Italy
 *be Lomme Driessens (04/05/1912-15/06/2006) - 3rd at a kermess in Vilvoorde 1932, advisor and famous team director of Faema, Flandria, etc.
 *fr Victor Cosson (11/10/1915-18/06/2009) - 3rd at the 1938 Tour of France
 *it Alfredo Martini (18/02/1921-25/08/2014) - In 1950 Tour of Piedmont winner and 3rd at the Tour of Italy. Team director of several teams until 1974 and then national coach for Italy until 1997
*fr Antonin Rolland (03/09/1924) - 2 stages at the Tour of France (1952 & 1955) and one at the Tour of Italy (1957)
 *fr Bernard Gauthier (22/09/1924) - 4-time winner of Bordeaux-Paris (1951, 1954, 1956, 1957), 4th at the 1955 Tour of Flanders
*fr Jean-Marie Goasmat (28/03/1913-21/01/2006) - GP Nations (Free Zone) in 1942 and stage winner at the 1936 the Tour of France
*au Reginald Arnold (09/10/1924-23/07/2017) - 16 Six-Days wins, European Champion Madison 1957
 *es Fermin Trueba (26/08/1914-01/05/2007) - National champion in-line race 1938, Winner of the Mountain classification of the Tour of Spain 1941
 *it  *be Pino Cerami (28/03/1922-20/09/2014) - Winner of Paris-Roubaix and the Walloon Arrow 1960, Paris-Brussels 1961
 *fr Raphaël Geminiani (12/06/1925) - Winner of the Mountain classification at the Tour of France 1951 and at the Tour of Italy 1952 & 1957, famous Directeur sportif for Ford, Bic, Fiat, among others
*be Jean Bogaerts (09/02/1925-18/02/2017) - Winner of the first ever Omloop (now called Het Nieuwsblad) 1945 & 1951
 *it Fiorenzo Magni (07/12/1920-19/10/2012) - Winner of the Tour of Flanders (1949 to 1951) and of the Tour of Italy (1948, 1951, 1955)
 *it Giordano Cottur (24/05/1914-08/03/2006) - 3rd at the Tour of Italy (1940, 1948 & 1949) winning three stages overall
 *au Sir Hubert Opperman (29/05/1904-18/04/1996) - Winner of Paris-Brest-Paris 1931 and the Bol d'Or 1928
 *it Antonio Negrini (28/01/1903-25/09/1994) - Winner of the Tour of Lombardy 1932
 *ch Emilio Croci Torti (06/04/1922-02/07/2013) - Stage winner at the Tour of Switzerland 1952, winner of the Tour of Lake Geneva 1947, loyal teammate to Ferdi Kübler, became a painter after cycling career
 *nl Theofiel "Theo" Middelkamp (23/02/1914-02/05/2005) -  #rainbow World Champion 1947
 *fr André Dufraisse (30/06/1926)#rainbow Five-time Cyclocross World Champion (1954 to 1958)
*it Eberardo Pavesi (02/11/1883-11/11/1974) - Winner of the Tour of Emily 1909, 2nd at the Tour of Italy 1910 & 1913 winning 2 stages in each of these editions, famous DS at Legnano from 1921 to 1966
*fr André Mahé (18/11/1919-19/10/2010 - Winner of Paris-Roubaix 1949 and Paris-Tours 1950
 *it Mario Ricci (13/08/1914-22/02/2005) - Winner of the Tour of Lombardy 1941 & 1945
 *be Frans Bonduel (26/09/1907-23/02/1998) - Winner of the Tour of Flanders 1930, Paris-Brussels 1934 & 1939, Paris-Tours 1939
 *be Philémon De Meersman (15/11/1914-02/04/2005) - Winner of the first ever Walloon Arrow in 1936
*be Roger Decock (20/04/1927) - Winner of the Tour of Flanders 1952 and Paris-Nice 1951
 *be Cyriel Van Hauwaert (16/12/1883-15/02/1974) - Winner of Paris-Roubaix & Milan-Sanremo 1908 and of Bordeaux-Paris (1907 & 1909)
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    "Paris-Roubaix is the biggest cycling race in the world, bigger than the Tour de France, bigger than any other bike race" (Sir Bradley Wiggins)


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    Re: Long Lives
    « Reply #1 on: July 19, 2019, 00:04 »
    Sorry to bump this old thread about old men but today is Émile Idée's 99th birthday (19 July), which should be celebrated. Hopefully he'll hold on for one more year.  :cool

    In the OP I mentioned that Émile won the GP des Nations during WWII in the occupied zone (Northern France) in 1942. That must be his greatest victory. He won Paris-Reims in that same year, which was back then a placeholder for Paris-Roubaix, which could not take place because of the "circumstances.

    His 2nd place to Rik Van Steenbergen at the 1948 Paris-Roubaix is the achievement that made me discover him. He broke away from a 6-man group on the outskirts of Roubaix but Rik 1 countered. It still is the 5th fastest Paris-Roubaix ever. Some say he could've won but was not incisive enough in his attacks to drop Van Steenbergen.

    Émile probably also should have won Paris-Tours in 1947. At a time when finish photos did not exist he was declared 2nd to Brik Schotte while claiming he crossed the line first. It's hard to tell on this picture (Émile Idée on the right and Brik Schotte on the left of the photograph).

    He was twice French champion in 1942 and 1947. The second title has a funny story. Actually the winner was Paul Neri, who was an Italian migrant and who had not yet obtained French citizenship. So the race had to be raced again. Émile Idée was probably the best French rider in the 1940's but of course, the war shortened in his career. Pierre Chany compared him to Octave Lapize or Henri Pélissier. He was an amazing puncher, nicknamed "Le Roi de Chevreuse" (as he shone on the hills of the Vallée de Chevreuse between Paris and Versailles).

    Then he also got demoralised when he saw good friend Camille Danguillaume fatally crashing.

    Émile Idée in 2012 (aged almost 92):

    I realise that I forgot about several riders in the OP like Sergio Maggini, former Baracchi Trophy winner who is also aged 99 since Valentine's Day. Several other riders have joined the club as well like Federico Bahamontes, André Darrigade or one I really like a lot Jacques Dupont.  :cool
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    Re: Long Lives
    « Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 09:57 »
    Now that's it. On this Valentine's Day, Sergio Maggini hits the three digit. He's 100. I can see now report that he's passed away, so would like to wish a happy birthday to this "young" man.  :cool

    Herbie Sykes tweeted this picture four years ago on which he's congratulated by Fiorenzo Magni (191 years between themselves) !!

    "Magni with Sergio Maggini. Three top-ten finishes at Milan-Sanremo, alive and well aged 96."

    Sergio Maggini also won the Baracchi Trophy in 1947 when it was still an ITT but with an all Italian field, Milan-Turin in 1948, the Tour of Piedmont in 1946 and a stage at the Tour of Italy in 1949.

    His younger brother Luciano who passed away in 2012 had a broader palmares winning 5 stages at the Tour of Italy, Milan-Turin, Tour of Emily, etc and finishing at a best place of 5th at Tour of Italy GC.

    Hopefully next July, Émile Idée will join Sergio Maggini at the three digit club.  :)
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    Re: Long Lives
    « Reply #3 on: July 19, 2020, 12:41 »
    Now that's it ! Émile Idée is 100 !!!

    Émile Idée is 100 This Sunday. In 1942 He Raced in the Vienne Département

    Raphaël Geminiani considered himself the last surviving rider from the 1948 Tour of France. That was inaccurate. They are four survivor : Raphaël Geminiani, Émile Idée, Jacques Marinelli (born on 15 December 1925) and Willy Kemp *lu (born on 28 December 1925).

    Earlier this year, journalist Léandre Martin of La Nouvelle République was investigating about the 1942 "Circuit of France" (28 sept to 4 oct.), a kind of small scale Tour of France, in war years, which crossed the demarcation line. Jean Bobet wrote about it in "Le vélo à l'heure allemande". This year's Tour of France comes to Poitiers and starts the next day from Chauvigny. During the 1942 Circuit of France, you had a stage Le Mans - Poitiers (won by the great Frans Bonduel) and next Chauvigny - Limoges. Émile came 2nd in that stage which crossed the demarcation line, won by a certain Georges Guillier. In the general classification, Émile finished 9th. The race was won by François Neuville, Walloon rider (my grandfather remembers him very well !!). 

    When Léandre Martin realised that Émile Idée was possibly still alive he was looking up the directory for his phone number and much to his surprise, he found him ! There was an Émile Idée in Marolles-en-Brie, in the Val-de-Marne, Paris. That was the Émile Idée who raced that Circuit of France, 78 years before !

    Émile Idée did not wish to race that Circuit of France but he was forced to. Actually he was French champion in Lyon earlier that year and his participation was indispensable. So he participated but ... wearing his Alcyon team jersey. He had just spent one month in jail for crossing the demarcation line (one week at the Prison of Fresnes, three of them at the Prison de la Santé).

    It was not a nice memory. It was cold and I was not in great shape. I have a book in which you can see my teammate Jules Rossi and I. We were frozen.

    Émile Idée made a great career with a victory in the 13th stage of the 1949 Tour of France. He denied being a great climber but he could do well on the hills of the Chevreuse Valley, hence his nickname "King of the Chevreuse" after he won five times the "Critérium national" (it wasn't until 1981 that it became "international" and was raced in some other places).

    Émile Idée was a great rival to Fausto Coppi, twice a runner-up to him at the Grand Prix des Nations in 1946 & 1947.

    He was the greatest but I beat him behind derny at the Longchamp criterium. I didn't fear many riders on the track.

    Émile Idée is still informed with cycling news on ... the Internet !!

    A couple of years ago I still cycled a bit. I have a home trainer but I'm not very courageous.

    What he misses most is not seeing the old friends anymore such as Jacques Marinelli.

    Picture from the 1942 Tour of France. Émile Idée is on the left along with Louis Thiétard. What do these two have in common? They were second to Rik Vansteenbergen in major classics (Thiétard at the 1946 Tour of Flanders and Idée at the 1948 Paris-Roubaix).

    And according to this article from L'Équipe, Émile Idée did not like the Tour of France.  :D


    On another note, Jean Brankart *be is now aged 90. He was born on 12 July 1930. He has his birthday on the same day as me. He was 2nd to Louison Bobet at the 1955 Tour of France, winning two stages (one in the Pyrenees and the last time trial) and 2nd to Ercole Baldini at the 1958 Tour of Italy, winning the mountain classification. Unfortunately, he had to stop his career at age 30 with heart problems. Probably, that was a good decision though, if you think he's still alive 60 years later !!!

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    Re: Long Lives
    « Reply #4 on: October 07, 2020, 21:41 »
    Happy birthday to Jean Forestier. Aged 90 today. Since Roger Decock passed away, he's the oldest Tour of Flanders winner (1956) still alive and he's the old Paris-Roubaix winner still alive.

    His Paris-Roubaix win :

    He capitalised on the rivalry between Louison Bobet and Fausto Coppi to escape.

    Here at the Tour of Flanders

    Last year he met up with Raphaël Geminiani (then 94) and Antonin Rolland (then 95)

    Gem would say :

    Jean has a palmares. Paris-Roubaix, the Tour of Flanders. In those days, Belgians were untouchables. Beating them was a thundering achievement.

    No time to translate all of that article but basically he says that Paris-Roubaix was his greatest victory. Initially he was in the 4th echelon but then the peloton was packed together and he took the opportunity to get clear of the rest. That he got a job as a mechanic in 1965 and so he immediately stopped his career. He loved racing but at that time, his job was the most important thing and that's why he did everything to be forgotten. Being an "old legend" is not something that he thought woudl suit him.

    Forestier is from Lyon, just like his friend Henry Anglade. His Paris-Roubaix victory was announced on the Gerland football stadium in Lyon during a match against Reims.

    He had weakness in the mountains, especially above 2000m.

    At the Tour of Flanders, he said he could've dropped 100 times and was the only one of his team ahead. Fortunately, he didn't puncture.

    At the time of the interview, 2013, he was still following modern cycling but didn't recognise himself in it anymore. Doping affairs tired him as much as the stereotypical race development. Especially what bores him is the way attackers are always turning back after an attack :

    You can snif it when they are behind you

    Hopefully, seven years after that article, he can enjoy racing a bit better.

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