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Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2017, 23:36 »
Stage 17

Green points

One breakaway survivor, one rider not chosen.

DENIFL Stefan   70   0   team
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   40   2   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   25   31   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   15   34   teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   19   teams
MAJKA Rafal   7   4   teams
WOODS Michael   5   1   team
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel   3   6   teams
KELDERMAN Wilco   2   9   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   1   5   teams

1   Trudgin   65 (Contador & Lopez)
2=   GodChild, Squire   53
4=   ArchieBoy, Leadbelly, Vladimir   52
7=   Crevaison, Emma, Fauniera, GPBlanco, Joelsim, Minessa, Shalgo, ThePirate81   50
15   LosBrolin   49
16   McLongan   47
17=   GeraintTooFast, Laarsland   45
19=   BikeRacer33, Hakkie2   43
21=   BluesInTheBottle, Del1962   42
23=   Lopez & Zakarin combo   40
32=   BicycleBoy, Yellow_Knight   33
34   LightBing   30
35=   DJW, Josedin   28
37   Carlo_Algatrensig   26
38=   AmisVelo, JustSomeGuy   15
40   Hayabusa   10
41   RattaKuningas   4
42   Scrool07   0
   Collective_Wisdom   50

1   GeraintTooFast   843
2   BicycleBoy   710
3   ArchieBoy   644
4   ThePirate81   634
5   LosBrolin   631
6   Vladimir   622
7   BikeRacer33   614
8   Leadbelly   596
9   Del1962   591
10   Crevaison   588


Red points

WOODS Michael   60   1   team
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   44   2   teams
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   30   31   teams
NIBALI Vincenzo   30   34   teams
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   24   5   teams
FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven   16   15   teams
MAJKA Rafal   13   4   teams
...
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor   -14   5   teams
KÄMNA Lennard   -15   1   team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -41   3   teams


Only one team with Woods, so Laarsland reaps the benefit of him being top scorer today.

1   Laarsland   136
2   GodChild   88
3   Trudgin   87
4   LosBrolin   86
5   ArchieBoy   85
5   Crevaison   85
7   GPBlanco   83
7   Hakkie2   83
9   Leadbelly   82
9   Vladimir   82
11   BikeRacer33   81
12   McLongan   79
13   Hugo87   78
14   Kazistuta   76
14   Yellow_Knight   76
16   Fauniera   75
17   Del1962   73
18   Comodoro   72
19   Joelsim   71
19   Minessa   71
19   Shalgo   71
22   Emma   69
23   Armchair_Cyclist   66
24   Carlo_Algatrensig   65
25   BicycleBoy   64
26   Rote_Laterne   62
27   EvansistheBest   58
27   Kabete   58
27   Squire   58
30   ThePirate81   55
31   BluesInTheBottle   54
31   Josedin   54
33   Contadoome   46
34   GeraintTooFast   43
35   LightBing   39
36   DJW   35
37   JustSomeGuy   28
38   Search   23
39   RattaKuningas   15
40   Hayabusa   -20
41   AmisVelo   -23
42   Scrool07   -44
   Collective_Wisdom   85


Standings

Interesting racing not really reflected in action in the table: GodChild slipping into the top ten is the highest place any difference is found, and on a day when noone else moves up by more than 2 places, Laarslands moves up 7.

1   GeraintTooFast   2244
2   Leadbelly   2194
3   ArchieBoy   2097
4   Vladimir   2070
5   LosBrolin   2018
6   BicycleBoy   1930
7   Del1962   1916
8   BikeRacer33   1879
9   Minessa   1771
10   GodChild   1728
11   Crevaison   1726
12   GPBlanco   1715
13   Laarsland   1704
14   Shalgo   1696
15   ThePirate81   1681
16   Hakkie2   1656
17   Squire   1650
18   Fauniera   1646
19   LightBing   1642
20   Kabete   1634
21   Kazistuta   1598
22   Joelsim   1590
23   Emma   1550
24   Armchair_Cyclist   1429
25   Search   1427
26   Hugo87   1425
27   Yellow_Knight   1391
28   Comodoro   1389
29   McLongan   1371
30   Josedin   1367
31   Rote_Laterne   1344
31   Trudgin   1344
33   EvansistheBest   1319
34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1276
35   BluesInTheBottle   1191
36   AmisVelo   1051
37   JustSomeGuy   983
38   Hayabusa   901
39   DJW   800
40   Contadoome   746
41   RattaKuningas   579
42   Scrool07   498
   Collective_Wisdom   1717

If Froome's apparent vulnerability tpday leads to him falling out of the lead, then Geraint will inevitably fall some distance, but even if he does not, and gets 54 more leader points, Nibali and Zakarin (and to a lesser extent Kruijswijk) are maybe looking capable of outscoring him on stage finishes, and while Froome can only lose points for the "sprints" ranking, Leadbelly has riders who could improve there, and improve more easily in the KoM ranking.

Key riders:  Geraint: Froome  vs LB: Nibali, Zakarin and Kruijswijk
Irrelevant because on both teams: Lopez, Kelderman, Poels (and the no longer riding Betancur)
Also no longer riding: Geraint: Turgis
Could gain a few GC points (or lose 1): Geraint: Olivier
Can't really do anything other than retain their 15 finisher points: Geraint: Osorio and A Nibali; LB: Dombrowski and Saez.

Unless someone key has an absolute collapse, I can't really see anyone other than these two challenging for the title, as the next two teams (Archie and Vladimir) have 5 of Leadbelly's 6 big scorers, but both lack Poels or anyone likely to win a breakaway stage; the next team, Los Brolin, is essentially Leadbelly's team with Majka instead of Zakarin, and even his breakaway capacity is not going to give him the two stage wins that would be needed to really put Los Brolin into the equation.
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #31 on: September 07, 2017, 22:22 »
    Stage 18


    Green points

    The more of the break that survives, the less our game has to report.

    ARMEE Sander   70   0   team
    LUTSENKO Alexey   40   0   team
    VISCONTI Giovanni   25   1   team
    FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
    GOUGEARD Alexis   15   0   team
    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   10   3   teams
    DE MARCHI Alessandro   7   3   teams
    TRENTIN Matteo   5   0   team
    PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   3   0   team
    TOLHOEK Antwan   2   1   team
    ROUX Anthony   1   0   team

    1   Emma   25
    2   BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
    4   Contadoome, Hayabusa, Scrool07   10
    7   AmisVelo, BikeRacer33, Hakkie2   7
    10   Trudgin   2

    1   GeraintTooFast   861
    2   BicycleBoy   728
    3   ArchieBoy   644
    4   ThePirate81   634
    5   LosBrolin   631
    6   Vladimir   622
    7   BikeRacer33   621
    8   Leadbelly   596
    9   Del1962   591
    10   Crevaison   588


    Red points

    Very quiet today

    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   37   3   teams
    VISCONTI Giovanni   29   1   team
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   15   15   teams
    TOLHOEK Antwan   14   1   team
    ...
    MAJKA Rafal   -10   4   teams
    YATES Adam   -12   11   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -15   34   teams
    DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -15   5   teams
    POELS Wout   -15   10   teams


    1   Scrool07   34
    2   Contadoome   29
    3   Hayabusa   19
    4   Emma   15
    5   BicycleBoy   8
    6   ArchieBoy   5
    7   GPBlanco   2
    8   Comodoro   1
    9   Crevaison   0
    9   GodChild   0
    9   Laarsland   0
    9   Vladimir   0
    13   Trudgin   -1
    14   Shalgo   -6
    15   GeraintTooFast   -8
    16   Josedin   -9
    17   Hakkie2   -11
    18   DJW   -12
    18   Hugo87   -12
    20   Del1962   -15
    20   EvansistheBest   -15
    20   JustSomeGuy   -15
    20   Kazistuta   -15
    20   Leadbelly   -15
    20   LightBing   -15
    26   Search   -18
    27   BluesInTheBottle   -21
    27   ThePirate81   -21
    29   LosBrolin   -25
    30   Fauniera   -26
    30   Rote_Laterne   -26
    32   AmisVelo   -27
    32   Joelsim   -27
    34   RattaKuningas   -28
    35   BikeRacer33   -29
    36   Kabete   -31
    37   Minessa   -33
    38   Squire   -34
    39   McLongan   -40
    39   Yellow_Knight   -40
    41   Carlo_Algatrensig   -42
    42   Armchair_Cyclist   -44
       Collective_Wisdom   0


    Nibali loses a place on points classification: Geraint's position seems slightly more secure than last night.
    You have to look all the way down to 17th to find the first change in positions: LightBing in that position is one of three teams with a 2 place improvement, Hugo87 and Josedin being the others.

    1   GeraintTooFast   2236
    2   Leadbelly   2179
    3   ArchieBoy   2102
    4   Vladimir   2070
    5   LosBrolin   1993
    6   BicycleBoy   1938
    7   Del1962   1901
    8   BikeRacer33   1850
    9   Minessa   1738
    10   GodChild   1728
    11   Crevaison   1726
    12   GPBlanco   1717
    13   Laarsland   1704
    14   Shalgo   1690
    15   ThePirate81   1660
    16   Hakkie2   1645
    17   LightBing   1627
    18   Fauniera   1620
    19   Squire   1616
    20   Kabete   1603
    21   Kazistuta   1583
    22   Emma   1565
    23   Joelsim   1563
    24   Hugo87   1413
    25   Search   1409
    26   Comodoro   1390
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   1385
    28   Josedin   1358
    29   Yellow_Knight   1351
    30   Trudgin   1343
    31   McLongan   1331
    32   Rote_Laterne   1318
    33   EvansistheBest   1304
    34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1234
    35   BluesInTheBottle   1170
    36   AmisVelo   1024
    37   JustSomeGuy   968
    38   Hayabusa   920
    39   DJW   788
    40   Contadoome   775
    41   RattaKuningas   551
    42   Scrool07   532
       Collective_Wisdom   1717
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #32 on: September 09, 2017, 01:05 »
    Stage 19

    Sort of what I said yesterday...

    Green points

    DE GENDT Thomas   70   0   team
    PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   40   4   teams
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   25   0   team
    FROOME Chris   18   2   teams
    COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   15   1   team
    DE TIER Floris   10   0   team
    JUNGELS Bob   7   2   teams
    BARDET Romain   5   2   teams
    ROCHE Nicolas   3   3   teams
    NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   2   5   teams
    BOUWMAN Koen   1   0   team

    1=   Armchair_Cyclist, Contadoome, Minessa, Search   40
    5   =BicycleBoy, GeraintTooFast   18
    7   Scrool07   17
    8   Comodoro   9
    9   Hayabusa   7
    10=   EvansistheBest, JustSomeGuy   5
    12=   AmisVelo, Kabete, Laarsland   3
    15=   Hugo87, Joelsim, McLongan   2

    1   GeraintTooFast   879
    2   BicycleBoy   746
    3   ArchieBoy   644
    4   ThePirate81   634
    5   LosBrolin   631
    6   Vladimir   622
    7   BikeRacer33   621
    8   Minessa   608
    9   Leadbelly   596
    10   Del1962   591


    Red points

    PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson   48   4   teams
    COSTA Rui Alberto Faria   22   1   team
    ROCHE Nicolas   15   3   teams
    FROOME Chris   13   2   teams
    JUNGELS Bob   12   2   teams
    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   8   3   teams
    ...
    MAJKA Rafal   -7   4   teams
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   -8   1   team
    YATES Adam   -10   11   teams

    1   Contadoome   50
    2   Search   48
    3   Minessa   47
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   38
    5   Scrool07   31
    6   Hayabusa   17
    7   Laarsland   15
    8   Comodoro   14
    9   BicycleBoy   13
    9   GeraintTooFast   13
    11   Kabete   11
    12   EvansistheBest   7
    13   JustSomeGuy   6
    14   Trudgin   5
    15   AmisVelo   3
    16   Del1962   0
    16   Kazistuta   0
    18   Crevaison   -1
    18   Emma   -1
    18   Leadbelly   -1
    18   Vladimir   -1
    22   GPBlanco   -2
    23   Hakkie2   -3
    23   Shalgo   -3
    23   ThePirate81   -3
    26   ArchieBoy   -4
    26   Josedin   -4
    28   GodChild   -5
    28   LightBing   -5
    30   BikeRacer33   -6
    31   LosBrolin   -7
    32   Hugo87   -8
    32   Yellow_Knight   -8
    34   Fauniera   -9
    34   Joelsim   -9
    36   Carlo_Algatrensig   -11
    36   Rote_Laterne   -11
    38   DJW   -14
    38   McLongan   -14
    40   Squire   -17
    41   BluesInTheBottle   -19
    41   RattaKuningas   -19
       Collective_Wisdom   -1

    Standings

    Only 9 teams moved up at all: of them, the highest sees Crevaison  reverse the swap with GodChild of a couple of days ago, and he reenters the top ten, and only Kabete and Armchair move up by more than the one place.

    1   GeraintTooFast   2249
    2   Leadbelly   2178
    3   ArchieBoy   2098
    4   Vladimir   2069
    5   LosBrolin   1986
    6   BicycleBoy   1951
    7   Del1962   1901
    8   BikeRacer33   1844
    9   Minessa   1785
    10   Crevaison   1725
    11   GodChild   1723
    12   Laarsland   1719
    13   GPBlanco   1715
    14   Shalgo   1687
    15   ThePirate81   1657
    16   Hakkie2   1642
    17   LightBing   1622
    18   Kabete   1614
    19   Fauniera   1611
    20   Squire   1599
    21   Kazistuta   1583
    22   Emma   1564
    23   Joelsim   1554
    24   Search   1457
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   1423
    26   Hugo87   1405
    27   Comodoro   1404
    28   Josedin   1354
    29   Trudgin   1348
    30   Yellow_Knight   1343
    31   McLongan   1317
    32   EvansistheBest   1311
    33   Rote_Laterne   1307
    34   Carlo_Algatrensig   1223
    35   BluesInTheBottle   1151
    36   AmisVelo   1027
    37   JustSomeGuy   974
    38   Hayabusa   937
    39   Contadoome   825
    40   DJW   774
    41   Scrool07   563
    42   RattaKuningas   532
       Collective_Wisdom   1716

    Another small increase in Geraint's lead.  Tomorrow is the Angliru: will it really shake everything up?  Will Froome get enough green jersey points to be certain that Trentin will not deprive him of 25 points in this game by taking that classification on Sunday? Will Nibali/Zakarin/Kruijswijk take enough stage points for LeadBelly tomorrow for that to be an issue?

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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #33 on: September 09, 2017, 08:26 »
    At the very least I need Zakarin to overtake Kelderman in the GC. It won't give me any points, but Geraint will lose 60.

    Fingers crossed.
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #34 on: September 09, 2017, 17:47 »
    Will Trentin and Villella be OTL-ed? This is what the competition could come down to! Even if Trentin isn't out they might still take points away from him!
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #35 on: September 09, 2017, 20:42 »
    Stage 20 Angliru

    A last bullet in the pistol, and Froome not weak after all.

    Green points

    CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   70   2   teams
    FROOME Chris   43   2   teams
    POELS Wout   40   10   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   15   19   teams
    PELLIZOTTI Franco   10   0   team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   7   34   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   5   15   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   3   9   teams
    BARDET Romain   2   2   teams
    WOODS Michael   1   1   team

    1   Trudgin   92
    2   GeraintTooFast   86
    3=   Contadoome, Leadbelly   70
    5=   Minessa   62
    6=   BicycleBoy, Del1962, Hayabusa, LosBrolin   55
    10=   Hakkie2, Kazistuta   52
    12=   Armchair_Cyclist, Kabete   47
    14=   ArchieBoy, Vladimir   30
    16=   Crevaison, GodChild, GPBlanco, Shalgo   27
    20   LightBing   25
    21=   Carlo_Algatrensig, Emma, Fauniera, Joelsim, Squire, ThePirate81, Yellow_Knight   22
    28   BluesInTheBottle   15
    29   Laarsland   13
    30=   Comodoro, Hugo87   12
    32   BikeRacer33   10
    33=   EvansistheBes, JustSomeGuy   9
    35=   AmisVelo, McLongan, Rote_Laterne, Search   7
    39   Josedin   3
    40=   DJW, RattaKuningas, Scrool07   0
       Collective_Wisdom   27

    1   GeraintTooFast   965
    2   BicycleBoy   801
    3   LosBrolin   686
    4   ArchieBoy   674
    5   Minessa   670
    6   Leadbelly   666
    7   ThePirate81   656
    8   Vladimir   652
    9   Del1962   646
    10   BikeRacer33   631

    Red points

    CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   105   2   teams
    POELS Wout   105   10   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   65   19   teams
    FROOME Chris   58   2   teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   22   34   teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   20   15   teams
    ...
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -60   31   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   -72   9   teams
    DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   -120   5   teams

    1   Trudgin   194
    2   Hayabusa   162
    3   Minessa   130
    4   Contadoome   101
    5   BicycleBoy   100
    6   Hakkie2   92
    7   Kazistuta   87
    8   Leadbelly   80
    9   Kabete   77
    10   Armchair_Cyclist   69
    11   GodChild   51
    12   GPBlanco   49
    13   Crevaison   47
    14   Shalgo   45
    15   AmisVelo   37
    16   Fauniera   35
    17   Squire   33
    18   GeraintTooFast   31
    18   Joelsim   31
    20   Emma   29
    21   JustSomeGuy   27
    22   ThePirate81   25
    23   LightBing   19
    24   LosBrolin   17
    25   Del1962   15
    26   BluesInTheBottle   13
    27   Scrool07   -5
    28   Laarsland   -9
    29   Hugo87   -14
    30   Comodoro   -22
    31   Vladimir   -25
    32   ArchieBoy   -26
    33   Carlo_Algatrensig   -29
    34   McLongan   -31
    34   Yellow_Knight   -31
    36   Rote_Laterne   -32
    37   Search   -33
    38   EvansistheBest   -34
    39   DJW   -52
    40   RattaKuningas   -108
    41   BikeRacer33   -224
    42   Josedin   -251
       Collective_Wisdom   47

    Standings

    A downward movement was more more dramatic than any upward ones in this evening's table: BikeRacer has the triple whammy of Lopez, Kelderman and De La Cruz, and falls not only out of the top ten, but also the top twenty.

    Foremost among the risers was Bicycle Boy, the other Froome team (Nibali and Kruijswijk have been a less successful supporting cast than Lopez, Kelderman and Poels), and the biggest step forward was Trudgin. 

    1   GeraintTooFast   2280
    2   Leadbelly   2258
    3   ArchieBoy   2072
    4   BicycleBoy   2051
    5   Vladimir   2044
    6   LosBrolin   2003
    7   Del1962   1916
    8   Minessa   1915
    9   GodChild   1774
    10   Crevaison   1772
    11   GPBlanco   1764
    12   Hakkie2   1734
    13   Shalgo   1732
    14   Laarsland   1710
    15   Kabete   1691
    16   ThePirate81   1682
    17   Kazistuta   1670
    18   Fauniera   1646
    19   LightBing   1641
    20   Squire   1632
    21   BikeRacer33   1620
    22   Emma   1593
    23   Joelsim   1585
    24   Trudgin   1542
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   1492
    26   Search   1424
    27   Hugo87   1391
    28   Comodoro   1382
    29   Yellow_Knight   1312
    30   McLongan   1286
    31   EvansistheBest   1277
    32   Rote_Laterne   1275
    33   Carlo_Algatrensig   1194
    34   BluesInTheBottle   1164
    35   Josedin   1103
    36   Hayabusa   1099
    37   AmisVelo   1064
    38   JustSomeGuy   1001
    39   Contadoome   926
    40   DJW   722
    41   Scrool07   558
    42   RattaKuningas   424
       Collective_Wisdom   1763

    The gap is closed, but tomorrow doesn't seem to have enough to offer Leadbelly to finally close the gap.  Neither of our top teams has anyone likely to gain stage points, so Trentin's possible recovery of the Green jersey is the element most likely to change the game.  That would see Froome (an therefore Geraint) lose 30 points.  But Trentin would also be overhauling Nibali in that category (Nibali having moved into second today), so Leadbelly would lose the game by just seven points (the same as the margin in the Tour game if I remember correctly).

    As to the third podium place, the four teams in contention have 1 sprinter each: Vladimir has Lobato, the other three have Schwartzmann.  So Brolin and Bicycle Boy seem effectively blocked from the podium by Archie, and Vladimir would need at least a repeat of his second place on stage 4 from Lobato to reach third.


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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #36 on: September 10, 2017, 06:49 »
    Another really close thing
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #37 on: September 10, 2017, 22:11 »
    Stage 21 The final analysis

    (Took a while, as having been thankfully consistent with the names they used for the riders for three weeks, lavuelta.com had new names for about 2 dozen of them today)

    Green points

    Not much doing today, it was never a game full of sprinter spends

    TRENTIN Matteo   70   0   team
    MANZIN Lorrenzo   40   2   teams
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   25   3   teams
    VAN ASBROECK Tom   15   0   team
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   10   0   team
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus   7   0   team
    VANBILSEN Kenneth   5   0   team
    MODOLO Sacha   3   0   team
    SCHWARZMANN Michael   2   8   teams
    HOELGAARD Daniel   1   0   team

    1   Fauniera, Shalgo   40
    3   GodChild, Kabete, Laarsland   25
    6   ArchieBoy, BicycleBoy, BikeRacer33, Comodoro, DJW, Joelsim, LosBrolin, Yellow_Knight   2

    Final Green points

    So in the end, the domination of the Green points by the two Froome teams was vindicated.  You can work out for yourselves how strong the effect of 18 red jersey wearer points (324 in total) are.

    1   GeraintTooFast   965
    2   BicycleBoy   803
    3   LosBrolin   688
    4   ArchieBoy   676
    5   Minessa   670
    6   Leadbelly   666
    7   ThePirate81   656
    8   Kabete   654
    9   Vladimir   652
    10   Del1962   646
    11   BikeRacer33   633
    12   Laarsland   627
    13   Kazistuta   620
    14   Crevaison   615
    15   Shalgo   611
    16   Hakkie2   599
    17   GodChild   598
    18   Search   580
    19   Emma   579
    20   Fauniera   566
    21   Josedin   560
    22   GPBlanco   553
    23   Rote_Laterne   552
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   548
    25   Joelsim   544
    26   EvansistheBest   528
    27   Comodoro   526
    28   McLongan   522
    29   Hugo87   520
    30   LightBing   505
    31   Squire   496
    32   BluesInTheBottle   487
    33   Yellow_Knight   470
    34   Trudgin   430
    35   JustSomeGuy   415
    36   Hayabusa   403
    37   Contadoome   369
    38   DJW   359
    39   Carlo_Algatrensig   346
    40   AmisVelo   317
    41   Scrool07   258
    42   RattaKuningas   197
       Collective_Wisdom   606

    Red points

    We expected points loss for Froome and Nibali from the green jersey: only Nibali suffered, and while we thought the main GC positions were fixed, Contador's waving to the crowds resulted in an unexpected bonus for the Kelderman teams.

    MANZIN Lorrenzo   40   2   teams
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   25   3   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   25   9   teams
    ...
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -15   34   teams
    CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   -25   2   teams

    As is traditional for final days, small differences here

    1   Josedin   26
    2   Fauniera   25
    2   GeraintTooFast   25
    2   Shalgo   25
    5   ArchieBoy   12
    5   BikeRacer33   12
    5   LosBrolin   12
    8   Del1962   10
    8   GodChild   10
    8   Kabete   10
    8   Laarsland   10
    8   Leadbelly   10
    8   LightBing   10
    8   Vladimir   10
    15   DJW   2
    16   BluesInTheBottle   1
    16   Hayabusa   1
    16   RattaKuningas   1
    19   Scrool07   0
    20   Comodoro   -12
    21   BicycleBoy   -13
    21   Joelsim   -13
    21   Yellow_Knight   -13
    24   Emma   -14
    24   GPBlanco   -14
    24   JustSomeGuy   -14
    24   Rote_Laterne   -14
    28   AmisVelo   -15
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   -15
    28   Carlo_Algatrensig   -15
    28   Crevaison   -15
    28   EvansistheBest   -15
    28   Hakkie2   -15
    28   Hugo87   -15
    28   Kazistuta   -15
    28   McLongan   -15
    28   Minessa   -15
    28   Search   -15
    28   Squire   -15
    28   ThePirate81   -15
    41   Contadoome   -25
    42   Trudgin   -40
       Collective_Wisdom   -15

    And so we arrive at:
    Final standings

    1   GeraintTooFast   2305
    2   Leadbelly   2268
    3   ArchieBoy   2084
    4   Vladimir   2054
    5   BicycleBoy   2038
    6   LosBrolin   2015
    7   Del1962   1926
    8   Minessa   1900
    9   GodChild   1784
    10   Crevaison   1757
    10   Shalgo   1757
    12   GPBlanco   1750
    13   Laarsland   1720
    14   Hakkie2   1719
    15   Kabete   1701
    16   Fauniera   1671
    17   ThePirate81   1667
    18   Kazistuta   1655
    19   LightBing   1651
    20   BikeRacer33   1632
    21   Squire   1617
    22   Emma   1579
    23   Joelsim   1572
    24   Trudgin   1502
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   1477
    26   Search   1409
    27   Hugo87   1376
    28   Comodoro   1370
    29   Yellow_Knight   1299
    30   McLongan   1271
    31   EvansistheBest   1262
    32   Rote_Laterne   1261
    33   Carlo_Algatrensig   1179
    34   BluesInTheBottle   1165
    35   Josedin   1129
    36   Hayabusa   1100
    37   AmisVelo   1049
    38   JustSomeGuy   987
    39   Contadoome   901
    40   DJW   724
    41   Scrool07   558
    42   RattaKuningas   425
       Collective_Wisdom   1748

    Geraint did indeed hold onto his lead, by an increased margin.  Vladimir, by virtue of having Kelderman, mimics his exploit in moving upto fourth at the last, but Archie retains the third podium spot.  On a day of very few positional changes, Shalgo moves up three places, and if he does not quite make it into the top ten, he at least forces us to acknowledge a top eleven instead.

    Congratulations to Geraint, to Leadbelly and Archie for filling the podium, and thanks to all for your entries.
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #38 on: September 10, 2017, 22:23 »
    I will do some number analysis tomorrow, but for those who have taken part in all 4 of my games this year, thanks for your loyalty, and your loyalty reward is entry into the Four Seasons Championship

          Spring Classics   +   Giro   +   Tour   +   Vuelta   =   
    1   Squire   1246   +   1528   +   1923   +   1617   =   6314
    2   Laarsland   1484   +   1380   +   1692   +   1720   =   6276
    3   Kazistuta   1955   +   1391   +   1120   +   1655   =   6121
    4   Vladimir   1301   +   1200   +   1484   +   2054   =   6039
    5   GPBlanco   1275   +   1663   +   1308   +   1750   =   5996
    6   LosBrolin   1582   +   1361   +   990   +   2015   =   5948
    7   ThePirate81   1484   +   1327   +   1461   +   1667   =   5939
    8   Leadbelly   1079   +   1545   +   1014   +   2268   =   5906
    9   Del1962   1782   +   1531   +   605   +   1926   =   5844
    9   Shalgo   1776   +   1223   +   1088   +   1757   =   5844
    11   Armchair_Cyclist   1319   +   1435   +   1547   +   1477   =   5778
    12   Hakkie2   1483   +   1548   +   963   +   1719   =   5713
    13   AmisVelo   1242   +   1436   +   1949   +   1049   =   5676
    13   GeraintTooFast   1250   +   1219   +   902   +   2305   =   5676
    15   JustSomeGuy   2112   +   1246   +   1109   +   987   =   5454
    16   Search   1163   +   1415   +   1302   +   1409   =   5289
    17   Comodoro   1205   +   1117   +   976   +   1370   =   4668
    18   LightBing   1163   +   1142   +   608   +   1651   =   4564
    19   Rote_Laterne   1266   +   1147   +   726   +   1261   =   4400
    20   DJW   1364   +   1080   +   995   +   724   =   4163
    21   Trudgin   622   +   1448   +   379   +   1502   =   3951
    22   Scrool07   965   +   1355   +   889   +   558   =   3767
    23   Josedin   601   +   1355   +   328   +   1129   =   3413
    24   Carlo_Algatrensig   516   +   516   +   898   +   1179   =   3109
       Collective_Wisdom   1418   +   1355   +   1326   +   1748   =   5847
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #39 on: September 11, 2017, 18:16 »
    Many thanks to AC for organising these games throughout the year.
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    Re: 2017 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #40 on: September 12, 2017, 00:30 »
    So where did it all go wrong (or right) for your team

    Top scoring riders
    1   FROOME Chris   1185   2   teams
    2   NIBALI Vincenzo   581   34   teams
    3   ZAKARIN Ilnur   427   19   teams
    4   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   415   31   teams
    5   CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto   398   2   teams
    6   KELDERMAN Wilco   391   9   teams
    7   TRENTIN Matteo   390   0   team
    8   POELS Wout   269   10   teams
    9   WOODS Michael   231   1   team
    10   CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   190   3   teams
    11   ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   178   3   teams
    12   MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163   0   team
    13   VAN GARDEREN Tejay   155   0   team
    13   KRUIJSWIJK Steven   155   15   teams
    15   ARMEE Sander   140   0   team
    16   MAJKA Rafal   135   4   teams
    17   MOHORIC Matej   129   0   team
    18   LUTSENKO Alexey   125   0   team
    19   ROCHE Nicolas   124   3   teams
    20   MEINTJES Louis   114   0   team
    20   ARU Fabio   114   0   team
    22   LAMPAERT Yves   113   0   team
    23   BARDET Romain   111   2   teams
    23   POLJANSKI Pawel   111   1   team
    25   DE GENDT Thomas   110   0   team
    26   ALAPHILIPPE Julian   100   18   teams
    27   MOSCON Gianni   93   0   team
    27   PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   93   0   team
    29   DENIFL Stefan   88   0   team
    30   NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   87   2   teams
    31   VILLELLA Davide   85   0   team
    32   POLANC Jan   81   1   team


    Best %age return
    1   POLJANSKI Pawel   182%   1   team
    2   MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163%   0   team
    3   LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   117%   31   teams
    4   OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   100%   3   teams
    5   ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   77%   3   teams
    6   NIBALI Vincenzo   77%   34   teams
    7   NIBALI Antonio   75%   3   teams
    7   MERTZ Rémy   75%   1   team
    9   KELDERMAN Wilco   74%   9   teams
    10   POELS Wout   65%   10   teams
    11   TOLHOEK Antwan   64%   1   team
    12   TRENTIN Matteo   61%   0   team
    13   FROOME Chris   60%   2   teams
    14   BOHORQUEZ SANCHEZ Hernando   60%   0   team
    14   AGNOLI Valerio   60%   2   teams
    16   DENIFL Stefan   55%   0   team
    17   OLIVIER Daan   54%   4   teams
    18   WOODS Michael   53%   1   team
    19   ZAKARIN Ilnur   53%   19   teams
    20   COURTEILLE Arnaud   51%   0   team
    21   MANZIN Lorrenzo   50%   2   teams

    Best possible team (with thanks to Hakkie for calculation)

    NIBALI Vincenzo   581   34   teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   427   19   teams
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   415   31   teams
    KELDERMAN Wilco   391   9   teams
    TRENTIN Matteo   390   0   teams
    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   178   3   teams
    MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   163   0   teams
    POLJANSKI Pawel   111   1   teams
    OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe   15   3   teams
    for a total of 2671

    Instead of Osorio, the ideal team could equally have had any of:
    BONNAFOND Guillaume
    NIBALI Antonio
    MERTZ Rémy
    BOHORQUEZ SANCHEZ Hernando
    AGNOLI Valerio
    OLIVIER Daan
    who were also available within budget and got 15 points, and between them were picked by 11 teams.

    Impeccable picks
    FROOME Chris
    NIBALI Vincenzo
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin
    MARCZYNSKI Tomasz
    POLJANSKI Pawel
    COURTEILLE Arnaud
    OSORIO ARBOLEDA Juan Felipe


    All the numbers here


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