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Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2018, 16:30 »
Race 6: Danilith Nokere Koerse

JAKOBSEN Fabio   1st, 140pts for Josedin
CAPIOT Amaury   2nd, 84pts for 20 teams
DE BIE Sean   8th, 36 for 20 teams
BASSO Leonardo   11th, 22 for DJW
VLIEGEN Loïc   18pts for Amis Velo and Salvarani   
COQUARD Bryan   15pts   13 teams
NAESEN Lawrence   11   2
GERTS Floris   9   3
DE BACKER Bert   6   1
BIERMANS Jenthe   5   4
ROWE Luke   5   2
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   5   4

15 teams combine Capiot and De Bie for 120 pts, so not a great surprise that some of those overhaul Josedin's unique, but unsupported, pick of the winner.

1   Kazistuta   146 (Capiot, De Bie, Coquard and Naesen)
2   Comodoro   144  (Capiot, De Bie, Coquard and Gerts)
3   Josedin   140 (Jakobsen)
4=   MellowVelo, Russell23, Shalgo, ThePirate81   135  (Capiot, De Bie, Coquard)
8   Laarsland   130
9   Nathanptz   129
10   Search   126
11   Bbass   125
12   Armchair, GPBlanco, Squire, The_Asian, TheArt   120
17   DJW   111
18=   Hakkie, Joelsim   99
20=   RoteLaterne, Zaka_fan   84
22=   AmisVelo, Salvarani   54
24   Leadbelly   51
25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   41
26   LosBrolin   36
27=   Del1962, DJSprtsch. Fauniera, Scrool07   15
31   NorthAmericanScum   11
32   NairoQ, SemirS   10
34   Madrazo   9
35   Vladimir   5
36=   Chiron, DFA123, Froschi, So2017   0
   CollectiveWisdom   135
   Trudgin*   18

Standings
Previous leader, Blues in the Bottle, lacks Capiot, which has caused him to drop to 3rd, and Mellow Velo is the only new entrant to the top ten (and only just).  Farther down, the table is more volatile: Josedin gets a 10 place rise from his unique winning pick, but that is only the 5th best climb of the day, Kazistuta's 17 places being the best.

1   Nathanptz   603
2   Armchair   547
3   Blues_in_the_Bottle   527
4   Russell23   471
5   Laarsland   470
6   TheArt   455
7   ThePirate81   454
8   Comodoro   433
9   Squire   431
10   MellowVelo   412
11   GPBlanco   384
12   Kazistuta   356
12   Joelsim   356
14   Shalgo   345
15   Search   338
16   Hakkie   331
17   DFA123   328
18   AmisVelo   320
19   RoteLaterne   317
20   The_Asian   308
21   LosBrolin   304
22   Salvarani   302
23   NorthAmericanScum   293
24   Chiron   279
25   Josedin   269
26   Leadbelly   262
27   NairoQ   251
28   Bbass   248
29   DJW   244
30   Madrazo   240
31   Zaka_fan   238
32   So2017   237
33   Fauniera   234
34   Scrool07   232
35   Vladimir   223
36   SemirS   164
37   DJSprtsch   140
38   Froschi   102
39   Del1962   30
   CollectiveWisdom   422
   Trudgin   197
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #31 on: March 16, 2018, 22:25 »
    Race 7: Handzame Classic

    The main action this weekend, including in this game, will be focussed on San Remo, but the second string of riders, largely those who have already been at Drenthe and Nokere, were at Handzame today and Denain on Sunday. 

    Not many scorers, but these points are just as good as those in a monument.

    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose   1st, 140pts for Josedin
    HALVORSEN Kristoffer   2nd, 84 pts for 6 teams
    BLYTHE Adam   5th, 54 for Madrazo and Salvarani
    DEHAES Kenny   6th, 48 for    The Asian
    JAKOBSEN Fabio   13th, 15   1
    ALLEGAERT Piet     19th, 7   2

    Second race in a row that Josedin has a unique pick as a winner.  What odds Iljo Keisse for Milan-San Remo?

    1   Josedin   239 (Hodeg, Halvorsen, Jakobsen)
    2   Madrazo   138 (Halvorsen, Blythe)
    3=   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Squire, Hakkie, DJW   84
    7   Salvarani   54
    8   The_Asian   48
    9=   AmisVelo, So2017   7
    11   Everyone else   0

    Standings

    BitB is back on top, Halvorsen today providing the points that Capiot didn't on Wednesday.  Josedin has a 20 point jump (30 places since Wednesday morning) and well into the top 10.  Squire also has a rise (5 places) within the top ten.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   611
    2   Nathanptz   603
    3   Armchair   547
    4   Squire   515
    5   Josedin   508
    6   Russell23   471
    7   Laarsland   470
    8   TheArt   455
    9   ThePirate81   454
    10   Comodoro   433
    11   Hakkie   415
    12   MellowVelo   412
    13   GPBlanco   384
    14   Madrazo   378
    15   Joelsim   356
    15   Kazistuta   356
    15   Salvarani   356
    15   The_Asian   356
    19   Shalgo   345
    20   Search   338
    21   DFA123   328
    21   DJW   328
    23   AmisVelo   327
    24   RoteLaterne   317
    25   LosBrolin   304
    26   NorthAmericanScum   293
    27   Chiron   279
    28   Leadbelly   262
    29   NairoQ   251
    30   Bbass   248
    31   So2017   244
    32   Zaka_fan   238
    33   Fauniera   234
    34   Scrool07   232
    35   Vladimir   223
    36   SemirS   164
    37   DJSprtsch   140
    38   Froschi   102
    39   Del1962   30
       CollectiveWisdom   422
       Trudgin   197

    All could look very different tomorrow evening.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #32 on: March 17, 2018, 21:23 »
    Race 8: Milan San Remo

    Well, no-one was going to spend 60% of their game budget on Nibali, who only got 10 points in this set of races last year.  And the same budget considerations, perhaps slightly less exaggeratedly, put most of the high scoring riders today outside of the game.  But not all of them:

    ROELANDTS Jürgen   5th. 112 pts for 20 teams
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus   8th, 80pts for Fauniera, Rote Laterne, Salvarani, Squire and ThePirate81
    COLBRELLI Sonny   9th, 70 for Laarsland
    BRESCHEL Matti   12th, 46 for Armchair Cyclist, DJW, Madrazo, Scrool07 and SemirS
    LAPORTE Christophe   13th, 42 for The Art and Vladimir
    HAAS Nathan   18th, 28 for Froschi
    IMPEY Daryl   22   for Joelsim and Pirate81
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   20   2
    MOSCON Gianni   7 for 9 teams
    and 28 finishers for 5 points, including popular picks Stannard, Van Baarle and Vandenbergh.

    1   ThePirate81   219 (Roelandts, Cort, Impey and 1 5 pointer)
    2   Fauniera   212  (Roelandts, Cort and 4 fivers)
    3   Salvarani   207 (Roelandts, Cort and 3 fivers)
    4   Squire   199  (Roelandts, Cort and Moscon)
    5   Laarsland   197 (Roelandts, Colbrelli and 3 fivers)
    6   Madrazo   173
    7   TheArt   166
    8   Froschi   155
    9   DFA123   147
    10=   NorthAmericanScum, Russell23, So2017   132
    13   LosBrolin   129
    14=   AmisVelo, Comodoro, Hakkie   127
    17   Leadbelly   124
    18=   Del1962, DJSprtsch   122
    20   Shalgo   117
    21   RoteLaterne   92
    22   Vladimir   67
    23   DJW   63
    24   Armchair, SemirS   61
    26   Scrool07   56
    27=   Joelsim, Zaka_fan   32
    29   Search   27
    30=   Blues_in_the_Bottle   25
    31=   Bbass, Chiron, Kazistuta, MellowVelo, NairoQ, Nathanptz   20
    37   GPBlanco   17
    38   The_Asian   15
    39   Josedin   5
       CollectiveWisdom   127
       Trudgin*   95

    All teams with Roelandts outscored all teams without him.


    Standings
    As predicted, considerable shake-up today.  This mornig's top three are now 4th, 5th and 7th respectively.  Squire was already 4th, and 4th on the day moves him to the pinnacle, while today's top scorer, The Pirate81, moves up from 9th to second, and Laarsland was 7th as the riders left Milan, but now on the podium.  Although 38 of the 39 teams changed position (Sorry Del1962, no change from last but you have improved your score 5-fold), and Fauniera managed a 16 place jump, the top ten only gets one new entry, Salvarani is the only new entrant to the top ten.

    1   Squire   714
    2   ThePirate81   673
    3   Laarsland   667
    4   Blues_in_the_Bottle   636
    5   Nathanptz   623
    6   TheArt   621
    7   Armchair   608
    8   Russell23   603
    9   Salvarani   563
    10   Comodoro   560
    11   Madrazo   551
    12   Hakkie   542
    13   Josedin   513
    14   DFA123   475
    15   Shalgo   462
    16   AmisVelo   454
    17   Fauniera   446
    18   LosBrolin   433
    19   MellowVelo   432
    20   NorthAmericanScum   425
    21   RoteLaterne   409
    22   GPBlanco   401
    23   DJW   391
    24   Joelsim   388
    25   Leadbelly   386
    26   So2017   376
    26   Kazistuta   376
    28   The_Asian   371
    29   Search   365
    30   Chiron   299
    31   Vladimir   290
    32   Scrool07   288
    33   NairoQ   271
    34   Zaka_fan   270
    35   Bbass   268
    36   DJSprtsch   262
    37   Froschi   257
    38   SemirS   225
    39   Del1962   152
       CollectiveWisdom   549
       Trudgin   292

    French cobbles tomorrow, GP de Denain, but HC points and HC line-ups, so probably only minor effect here.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #33 on: March 18, 2018, 18:11 »
    Race 9: GP de Denain

    Fewer cobbles than expected, and possibly fewer points than would have been hoped for.  The Asian does a Josedin, by having a unique pick winner, preventing Josedin from doing a Josedin by having the day's highest selected finisher as a UP.

    DEHAES Kenny   1st, 140pts for The Asian
    VERMELTFOORT Coen   6th, 48 for Josedin
    VAN AERT Wout   12th, 18pts for Chiron, DFA123, Fauniera, Josedin, NorthAmericanScum, Squire
    MORICE Julien   13th, 15 for So 2017
    OFFREDO Yoann    15th, 11 for Amis Velo, Scrool07, Zaka_fan
    GAUDIN Damien   27th, 5 for Armchair Cyclist

    1   The_Asian   140
    2   Josedin   66
    3=   Chiron, DFA123, Fauniera, NorthAmericanScum, Squire   18
    8   So2017   15
    9=   AmisVelo, Scrool07, Zaka_fan   11
    12   Armchair   5
    13=   Everyone else   0

    Standings

    The Squire slightly increases his lead, and Armchair Cyclist is the only other team in the morning's top ten to score, although Josedin re-enters that group.  A 14 point rise is The Asian's reward for picking the winner.

    1   Squire   732
    2   ThePirate81   673
    3   Laarsland   667
    4   Blues_in_the_Bottle   636
    5   Nathanptz   623
    6   TheArt   621
    7   Armchair   613
    8   Russell23   603
    9   Josedin   579
    10   Salvarani   563
    11   Comodoro   560
    12   Madrazo   551
    13   Hakkie   542
    14   The_Asian   511
    15   DFA123   493
    16   AmisVelo   465
    17   Fauniera   464
    18   Shalgo   462
    19   NorthAmericanScum   443
    20   LosBrolin   433
    21   MellowVelo   432
    22   RoteLaterne   409
    23   GPBlanco   401
    24   So2017   391
    24   DJW   391
    26   Joelsim   388
    27   Leadbelly   386
    28   Kazistuta   376
    29   Search   365
    30   Chiron   317
    31   Scrool07   299
    32   Vladimir   290
    33   Zaka_fan   281
    34   NairoQ   271
    35   Bbass   268
    36   DJSprtsch   262
    37   Froschi   257
    38   SemirS   225
    39   Del1962   152
       CollectiveWisdom   549
       Trudgin   292

    On Wednesday, the Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde has been reduced to an Eindaagse (?), so gets included in this game for the first time, and brings us to the halfway mark.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #34 on: March 21, 2018, 19:03 »
    Race 10: De Panne

    Eindaagse/monodaagse/unidaagse:  the linguistic lengths that race organisers will go to in order to get included in this game know no end.

    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   5th, 54pts for DFA123 and Vladimir
    CAPIOT Amaury   6th, 48pts for 20 teams
    BLYTHE Adam   9th, 30 for Madrazo and Salvarani
    VERMELTFOORT Coen   12th, 18 for Josedin
    WAEYTENS Zico   15th, 11 for GPBlanco
    COQUARD Bryan    8   13 teams
    DEHAES Kenny   5   1
    BIERMANS Jenthe   5   4
    KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   5   2
    VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   5   4
    VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter   5   2


    1   Vladimir   64 (Debusschere and 2 five pointers)
    2   GPBlanco   59 (Capiot and Waeytens)
    3   Laarsland   58 (Capiot and 2 five pointers)
    4=   Comodoro, Hakkie, Joelsim, Kazistuta, MellowVelo, Russell23, Shalgo, ThePirate81   56 (Capiot and Coquard)
    12   DFA123   54
    13=   DJW, The_Asian, Zaka_fan   53
    16=   Armchair, Bbass, Nathanptz, RoteLaterne, Search, Squire, TheArt   48
    23=   Madrazo, Salvarani   30
    25   Josedin   18
    26=   DJSprtsch, Scrool07   13
    28=   NairoQ, SemirS   10
    30=   Del1962, Fauniera, Leadbelly   8
    33=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Chiron, Froschi, LosBrolin, NorthAmericanScum, So2017   0
       CollectiveWisdom   56
       Trudgin*   5

    Standings
    Not for the first time, Blues in the Bottle suffers a drop through having not taken Capiot.  With the rest of the top ten having all scored in the rather norrow 48-58 range, his is the main change in the upper reaches, although Comodoro and Hakkie have nudged their way into the top 10.  Mellow Velo and Joelsim share the jump of the day honours, but of only 4 places, so not changing the game much.

    1   Squire   780
    2   ThePirate81   729
    3   Laarsland   725
    4   Nathanptz   671
    5   TheArt   669
    6   Armchair   661
    7   Russell23   659
    8   Blues_in_the_Bottle   636
    9   Comodoro   616
    10   Hakkie   598
    11   Josedin   597
    12   Salvarani   593
    13   Madrazo   581
    14   The_Asian   564
    15   DFA123   547
    16   Shalgo   518
    17   MellowVelo   488
    18   Fauniera   472
    19   AmisVelo   465
    20   GPBlanco   460
    21   RoteLaterne   457
    22   DJW   444
    22   Joelsim   444
    24   NorthAmericanScum   443
    25   LosBrolin   433
    26   Kazistuta   432
    27   Search   413
    28   Leadbelly   394
    29   So2017   391
    30   Vladimir   354
    31   Zaka_fan   334
    32   Chiron   317
    33   Bbass   316
    34   Scrool07   312
    35   NairoQ   281
    36   DJSprtsch   275
    37   Froschi   257
    38   SemirS   235
    39   Del1962   160
       CollectiveWisdom   605
       Trudgin   297


    With 10 of 20 races completed, it is the halfway stage of the game.  But most races still to come are bigger than most of these have been, although the last few events of the series tend to feature a category of rider under-represented in our teams.

    The combination of main riders, WT-scale points and cobbles should increase the rate of point scoring from Friday's E3 Harelbeke: see you then.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #35 on: March 21, 2018, 19:45 »
    At the halfway stage, the leading scorers
    Rider/points/price/teams (if any)
    NIBALI Vincenzo   280   1822   
    DEMARE Arnaud   269   1472   

    DEHAES Kenny   203   442   The Asian
    HOFSTETTER Hugo   197   142   

    COLBRELLI Sonny   188   1120 Laarsland
    BENOOT Tiesj   185   813   Armchair Cyclist, Scrool07, The Art
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   185   483   Blues in the Bottle, Nathanptz
    MOHORIC Matej   184   448   
    EWAN Caleb   170   722   
    VIVIANI Elia   166   1384   

    CAPIOT Amaury   163   32   20 teams
    Ackermann Pascal   161   134   

    JAKOBSEN Fabio   155   118   Josedin
    SAGAN Peter   146   2296   
    WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   144   105   

    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose   140   26   Josedin
    SISR Frantisek   140   56   So 2017
    STUYVEN Jasper   140   1064   
    Groenewegen Dylan   140   1139   
    Jans Roy   126   376   
    KRISTOFF Alexander   125   1969   
    VISCONTI Giovanni   118   634   
    CANOLA Marco   118   905   
    Dempster Zakkari   116   80   

    VAN AERT Wout   115   492   Chiron, DFA123, Fauniera, Josedin, NorthAmericanScum, Squire
    PLANCKAERT Baptiste   115   320   

    ROELANDTS Jürgen   112   228   20 teams
    BARDET Romain   108   1162   
    DE BIE Sean   103   57   20


    And the best returns on investment:
    Name/points/price/percentage return/teams
    Turgis Jimmy   47   5   940   
    Fenn Andrew   75   8   938   

    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose   140   26   538   1
    OLIVEIRA Rui Filipe Alves   47   9   522   

    CAPIOT Amaury   163   32   509   20 teams
    BASSO Leonardo   22   6   367   DJW
    SISR Frantisek   140   56   250   So 2017
    DE BONDT Dries   84   46   183   
    DE BIE Sean   103   57   181   20
    OTTEMA Rick   48   29   166   
    TURGIS Tanguy   36   24   150   
    Dempster Zakkari   116   80   145   
    HOFSTETTER Hugo   197   142   139   
    WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   144   105   137   
    DUVAL Julien   72   53   136   
    VAN RHEE Joey   36   27   133   

    JAKOBSEN Fabio   155   118   131 Josedin
    ARCHBOLD Shane   42   34   124   
    Ackermann Pascal   161   134   120   
    Goolaerts Michael   12   10   120   
    MORICE Julien   15   15   100   
    KAMSTRA Brian   5   5   100   


    and those who could have been free picks, had any of us picked them, with their points scored.
    BOVENHUIS Jasper   26
    KLEIMAN Wim   5
    HAVIK Piotr   5
    MÄRKL Niklas   5
    BRAND Samuel   5
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #36 on: March 23, 2018, 23:42 »
    Race 11: E3 Harelbeke
    A fruitless chase on the road, but the pursuit of our gameleaders has been merciless.  Some consolation for those who felt robbed of points in Le Samyn.

    TERPSTRA Niki   1st, 220pts for 20 teams
    GILBERT Philippe    2nd, 132pts for So 2017
    NAESEN Oliver   4th, 96 pts for Semir S
    BENOOT Tiesj   5th, 86 for Armchair Cyclist, Scrool07, The Art
    VANMARCKE Sep   7th, 66 for 24 teams
    MOSCON Gianni   8th, 58 for 9
    STYBAR Zdenek   9th, 52 for 20
    ROELANDTS Jürgen   35pts for 20
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   27pts for 2
    HAUSSLER Heinrich   17 for 6
    DEGENKOLB John   15 for 1
    KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   14 for 2
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   11 for 1
    VANDENBERGH Stijn   6 for 13
    and 14 riders getting 5 points for finishing, of whom only Van Baarle is on more than 6 teams.


    Although there were more points available in Milan-San Remo last weekend, this was far more productive in terms of points, because these were the riders we were focussed on.  6 teams took more points today than in the previous 10 races combined.

    1   LosBrolin   454 (Terpstra, Vanmarcke, Moscon, Stybar, Roelandts, Haussler and Vandenburgh)
    2   So2017   408  (Terpstra, Gilbert, Roelandts, Vandenburgh and 3 fivers)
    3   RoteLaterne   401 (Terpstra, Vanmarcke, Moscon, Stybar and 1 fiver)
    4   AmisVelo   394
    5=   Leadbelly, Madrazo   384
    7=   Hakkie, Russell23   378
    9   Armchair   369
    10   Zaka_fan   360
    11   GPBlanco   349
    12   DJW   340
    13   Shalgo   336
    14   Froschi   326
    15   Laarsland   323
    16   Scrool07   317
    17   Nathanptz   309
    18   The_Asian   289
    19   Del1962   255
    20   Bbass   225
    21   TheArt   190
    22   SemirS   177
    23   DFA123   169
    24   ThePirate81   163
    25=   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Squire   150
    27   NairoQ   146
    28   Vladimir   132
    29   MellowVelo   129
    30   NorthAmericanScum   128
    31   Search   127
    32=   DJSprtsch, Fauniera   112
    34   Comodoro   106
    35   Kazistuta   83
    36   Chiron   76
    37   Joelsim   66
    38   Salvarani   60
    39   Josedin   0
       CollectiveWisdom   384
       Trudgin*   45

    Standings

    Big shake up. Neither of the top two this morning had Terpstra, or any of the top 5, so it is left to Laarsland to ascend to the top, although Russell23 (previously 7th) and Armchair Cyclist (previously 6th) join him on a closely packed podium.  Picking 5 of the top 12 today gets Los Brolin the highest score of the day, the biggest jump (16 places), and a place in the top ten, which also has Madrazo and Amis Velo as new entries.

    1   Laarsland   1048
    2   Russell23   1037
    3   Armchair   1030
    4   Nathanptz   980
    5   Hakkie   976
    6   Madrazo   965
    7   Squire   930
    8   ThePirate81   892
    9   LosBrolin   887
    10   AmisVelo   859
    10   TheArt   859
    12   RoteLaterne   858
    13   Shalgo   854
    14   The_Asian   853
    15   GPBlanco   809
    16   So2017   799
    17   Blues_in_the_Bottle   786
    18   DJW   784
    19   Leadbelly   778
    20   Comodoro   722
    21   DFA123   716
    22   Zaka_fan   694
    23   Salvarani   653
    24   Scrool07   629
    25   MellowVelo   617
    26   Josedin   597
    27   Fauniera   584
    28   Froschi   583
    29   NorthAmericanScum   571
    30   Bbass   541
    31   Search   540
    32   Kazistuta   515
    33   Joelsim   510
    34   Vladimir   486
    35   NairoQ   427
    36   Del1962   415
    37   SemirS   412
    38   Chiron   393
    39   DJSprtsch   387
       CollectiveWisdom   989
       Trudgin*   342

    Similar sorts of points available on Sunday in Gent-Wevelgem, but how will they be distributed?
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #37 on: March 25, 2018, 20:01 »
    Race 12: Gent-Wevelgem

    The top three would have been very expensive picks, but those close behind them fitted into many of our team budgets:
    LAPORTE Christophe   4th. 96 pts for The Art and Vladimir
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   5th, 86 pts for DFA123 and Vladimir
    NAESEN Oliver   6th, 76 pts for SemirS
    STYBAR Zdenek   8th, 58 pts for 20 teams
    VAN AERT Wout   10th, 46pts   6 teams
    VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem   35   1
    VERMOTE Julien   24   3
    KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   21   2
    GILBERT Philippe   19   1
    VANMARCKE Sep   15   24
    VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   14   4
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus   12   5
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   10   2
     and no less than 46 more selected five pointers, including 6 of the Collective Wisdom team

    1   Vladimir   281 (Laporte, Debusschere, Stybar, Kuznetsov, Vanmarcke and one fiver)
    2   DFA123   244 (Debusschere, Stybar, Van Aert, Vermote, Vanmarcke and 3 fivers)
    3   SemirS   135 (Naesen, Vanmarcke, Van Meirsbulck and 6 fivers)
    4   Squire   131 (Zdenek, Van Aert, Cort and 3 fivers)
    5   TheArt   116
    6   Zaka_fan   114
    7   NairoQ   112
    8   Madrazo   108
    9   Laarsland   107
    10   NorthAmericanScum   105
    11=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Fauniera, Hakkie, Russell23   103
    16=   RoteLaterne, ThePirate81   100
    18=   LosBrolin, MellowVelo   98
    20   DJW   97
    21   Nathanptz   93
    22   Chiron   91
    23=   Search, The_Asian   83
    25   Armchair   78
    26   Comodoro   75
    27=   Josedin, Salvarani   66
    29   So2017   54
    30=   GPBlanco, Leadbelly   45
    32=   Froschi, Shalgo   40
    34=   DJSprtsch, Kazistuta   35
    36   Scrool07   30
    37   Joelsim   25
    38   Del1962   20
    39   Bbass   15
       CollectiveWisdom   103
       Trudgin*   51

    Standings
    The points were much lower than the E3 (only about 40% of the yield from that race) and apart from the top two, the range of scores was fairly narrow, so moves were mainly undramatic.  The only movements in the top ten were one place movements for Hakkie and Madrazo, with Nathanptz sliding down to accommodate that.  Good days for Vladimir and DFA123 earn jumps of 11 and 9 places respectively.

    1   Laarsland   1155
    2   Russell23   1140
    3   Armchair   1108
    4   Hakkie   1079
    5   Madrazo   1073
    5   Nathanptz   1073
    7   Squire   1061
    8   ThePirate81   992
    9   LosBrolin   985
    10   TheArt   975
    11   AmisVelo   962
    12   DFA123   960
    13   RoteLaterne   958
    14   The_Asian   936
    15   Shalgo   894
    16   Blues_in_the_Bottle   889
    17   DJW   881
    18   GPBlanco   854
    19   So2017   853
    20   Leadbelly   823
    21   Zaka_fan   808
    22   Comodoro   797
    23   Vladimir   767
    24   Salvarani   719
    25   MellowVelo   715
    26   Fauniera   687
    27   NorthAmericanScum   676
    28   Josedin   663
    29   Scrool07   659
    30   Froschi   623
    30   Search   623
    32   Bbass   556
    33   Kazistuta   550
    34   SemirS   547
    35   NairoQ   539
    36   Joelsim   535
    37   Chiron   484
    38   Del1962   435
    39   DJSprtsch   422
       CollectiveWisdom   1092
       Trudgin   393

    We continue on Wednesday with the Dwars door Vlaanderen, and on Wednesday and Sunday each week until we finish four weeks from today in Liege.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #38 on: March 28, 2018, 21:39 »
    Race 13: Dwars door Vlaanderen

    The winning break included the most popular pick in the game, one unique pick, and three who were unchosen: the final podium was Unpicked-Unique pick-Popular

    TEUNISSEN Mike   2nd, 108pts for Salvarani
    VANMARCKE Sep   3rd, 92 for 24 teams
    STYBAR Zdenek    6th, 62 for 20 teams
    BENOOT Tiesj   7th, 54 for Armchair Cyclist, Scrool07, The Art
    TERPSTRA Niki   9th, 40 for 20 teams
    MOSCON Gianni   12th, 27 for 9
    ROOSEN Timo   13th, 24 for Nathanptz, Salvarani, The Art
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus   14th, 22 for Fauniera, Rote Laterne, Salvarani, Squire, ThePirate81
    DEGENKOLB John   15th, 20 for Shalgo
    LAPORTE Christophe   18 for 2
    VAN POPPEL Danny   16 for 3
    DE BUYST Jasper   14 for 1
    ROWE Luke   9 for 2
    HAUSSLER Heinrich   8 for 6
    THEUNS Edward   7 for 2
     and 21 five pointers


    Looking at the above, you might expect Salvarani to be the big scorer of the day, but his team popularity ranking was 3rd lowest, as he had eschewed all those high scoring popular riders, and there he is mid-table.

    1   RoteLaterne   243 (Vanmarcke, Stybar, Terpstra, Moscon, Cort)
    2   LosBrolin   239 (Vanmarcke, Stybar, Terpstra, Moscon, Haussler and 2 fivers)
    3   AmisVelo   219  (Vanmarcke, Stybar, Terpstra and 5 fivers)
    4   Madrazo   214
    5   Hakkie   209
    6   Russell23   204
    7   NairoQ   184
    8   ThePirate81   181
    9   Vladimir   177
    10   DFA123   174
    11   Blues_in_the_Bottle   173
    12   Armchair   171
    13   GPBlanco   169
    13   Leadbelly   169
    15   MellowVelo, Salvarani   164
    17   Shalgo   162
    18   Zaka_fan   149
    19   Fauniera   145
    20   DJW   144
    21   Froschi   142
    22   TheArt   133
    23   Nathanptz, Squire   126
    25   NorthAmericanScum, The_Asian   120
    27   Laarsland   117
    28   DJSprtsch   116
    29   Search   113
    30   SemirS   112
    31   Scrool07   109
    32   Kazistuta   105
    33   Chiron   102
    34   Joelsim   99
    35   Comodoro   97
    36   Del1962   61
    37   So2017   60
    38   Bbass   54
    39   Josedin   20
       CollectiveWisdom   209
       Trudgin*   5

    Standings

    This was the second highest scoring race so far in the game, after E3 Harelbeke, and although it didn't shake things up quite as much as that race did, it has had an impact.
    Most notably, it had an impact at the top.  Russell jumps from 3rd to take the lead, with more of a margin than we have seen before.  The Collective Wisdom team has done very well since action has returned to Belgium, and would be in second place if it were ranked (Russell is top of the popularity rankings, so the CW team is closest to his in composition as well as in competition). Hakkie and Madrazo both jump onto the podium, Rote Laterne is jumper of the day and into the top ten, and Amis Velo sneaks back into that group too.

    1   Russell23   1344
    2   Hakkie   1288
    3   Madrazo   1287
    4   Armchair   1279
    5   Laarsland   1272
    6   LosBrolin   1224
    7   RoteLaterne   1201
    8   Nathanptz   1199
    9   Squire   1187
    10   AmisVelo   1181
    11   ThePirate81   1173
    12   DFA123   1134
    13   TheArt   1108
    14   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1062
    15   Shalgo   1056
    15   The_Asian   1056
    17   DJW   1025
    18   GPBlanco   1023
    19   Leadbelly   992
    20   Zaka_fan   957
    21   Vladimir   944
    22   So2017   913
    23   Comodoro   894
    24   Salvarani   883
    25   MellowVelo   879
    26   Fauniera   832
    27   NorthAmericanScum   796
    28   Scrool07   768
    29   Froschi   765
    30   Search   736
    31   NairoQ   723
    32   Josedin   683
    33   SemirS   659
    34   Kazistuta   655
    35   Joelsim   634
    36   Bbass   610
    37   Chiron   586
    38   DJSprtsch   538
    39   Del1962   496
       CollectiveWisdom   1301
       Trudgin*   398

    Sunday is one of the big ones: see you then.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #39 on: March 31, 2018, 22:42 »
    Another nice surprise for me, top of the day and entering the top ten.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #40 on: April 01, 2018, 20:15 »
    Race 14: Ronde van Vlaanderen

    Big scores today, with maximum point scale in place, and 4 of the most popular picks among the top 13, including the winner.

    TERPSTRA Niki   1st, 280pts   20 teams
    GILBERT Philippe   3rd, 145pts for    So 2017
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   4th, 125 for Blues in the Bottle and Nathanptz
    BENOOT Tiesj   8th, 80 for Armchair Cyclist, Scrool07, The Art
    VAN AERT Wout   9th, 70 for Chiron, DFA123, Fauniera, Josedin, NorthAmericanScum, Squire
    STYBAR Zdenek   10th, 62 for 20 teams
    NAESEN Oliver   11th, 54 for 1
    VAN BAARLE Dylan   12th, 46 for 17 teams
    VANMARCKE Sep   13th, 42 for 24 teams
    ROOSEN Timo   14th, 38   3
    TEUNISSEN Mike   18th, 28   1
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus   20th, 24   5
    MOSCON Gianni   22   9
    LANGEVELD Sebastian   20   6
    COLBRELLI Sonny   18   1
    HAUSSLER Heinrich   14   6
    OSS Daniel   12   7
    ROELANDTS Jürgen   10   20
    DEVRIENDT Tom   6   1


    1   Nathanptz   573 (Terpstra, Valgren, Stybar, Van Baarle, Roosen, Oss and 2 fivers)
    2   So2017   511 (Terpstra, Gilbert, Van Baarle, Langeveld, Roelandts and 2 fivers)
    3   AmisVelo   480  (Terpstra, Stybar, Van Baarle, Vanmarcke, Langeveld, Roelandts and 4 fivers)
    4   Russell23   462  (Terpstra, Stybar, Van Baarle, Vanmarcke, Oss, Roelandts and 2 fivers)
    5=   Madrazo, Zaka_fan   450
    7   Armchair   447
    8   Hakkie   445
    9   LosBrolin   440
    10   RoteLaterne   435
    11   GPBlanco   417
    12   Leadbelly   410
    13   Laarsland   397
    14   Scrool07   395
    15   DJW   394
    16   The_Asian   371
    17   Froschi   352
    18   Shalgo   347
    19   Bbass   295
    20=   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Del1962   290
    22   DFA123   245
    23   NorthAmericanScum   199
    24   Squire   198
    25   ThePirate81   194
    26   Chiron   180
    27=   MellowVelo, TheArt   165
    29   SemirS   157
    30   Fauniera   151
    31   Comodoro   125
    32   NairoQ   123
    33   Salvarani   120
    34   Vladimir   114
    35   Search   113
    36   Josedin   81
    37   Kazistuta   66
    38   DJSprtsch   62
    39   Joelsim   47
       CollectiveWisdom   455
       Trudgin*   55

    Standings
    Very high points, but of today's top ten, eight were already in the top ten overall, so this was more a case of re-enforcing the advantages that had already accrued.  But that is not to say that the 23% of total scores to date that were won today did nothing.  Russell hangs on to the lead, but the lead is considerably cut back, not by those on this morning's podium, but by Nathanptz' rise from 8th to 2nd as the day's top scorer.  Madrazo hangs on to his 3rd place, and Amis Velo moves up a couple of spots.  New in the top ten is GPBlanco, on the back of a 10 place rise, but the biggest riser of the day is the S0 2017 team, with a 10 place jump courtesy of the unique pick of Gilbert.

    And the absolute need to have picked Terpstra is shown in the highest team without him being in 17th place. 

    1   Russell23   1806
    2   Nathanptz   1772
    3   Madrazo   1737
    4   Hakkie   1733
    5   Armchair   1726
    6   Laarsland   1669
    7   LosBrolin   1664
    8   AmisVelo   1661
    9   RoteLaterne   1636
    10   GPBlanco   1440
    11   The_Asian   1427
    12   So2017   1424
    13   DJW   1419
    14   Zaka_fan   1407
    15   Shalgo   1403
    16   Leadbelly   1402
    17   Squire   1385
    18   DFA123   1379
    19   ThePirate81   1367
    20   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1352
    21   TheArt   1273
    22   Scrool07   1163
    23   Froschi   1117
    24   Vladimir   1058
    25   MellowVelo   1044
    26   Comodoro   1019
    27   Salvarani   1003
    28   NorthAmericanScum   995
    29   Fauniera   983
    30   Bbass   905
    31   Search   849
    32   NairoQ   846
    33   SemirS   816
    34   Del1962   786
    35   Chiron   766
    36   Josedin   764
    37   Kazistuta   721
    38   Joelsim   681
    39   DJSprtsch   600
       CollectiveWisdom   1756
       Trudgin   453

    I'm not expecting a big points haul on Wednesday in the Scheldeprijs, as the type of sprinter who is likely to be among the big points will have had a big price, and not specialise greatly in the rest of this series.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #41 on: April 04, 2018, 21:01 »
    Race 15: Scheldeprijs

    Few point scorers, as predicted, but they got more points than might otherwise have been expected, due to a combination of gates and punctures. 
    Yet another unique pick victory for Josedin, and he had the 3rd best picked rider as well.

    JAKOBSEN Fabio   1st, 140pts for Josedin
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   4th, 62pts for DFA123 and Vladimir
    VERMELTFOORT Coen   11th, 22pts for Josedin
    VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem    17th, 9pts for Comodoro
    PHINNEY Taylor   19th, 7 for Blues in the Bottle, Chiron and Zaka Fan
    BASSO Leonardo   20th, 6 for DJW
    SINKELDAM Ramon   22nd, 5 for Salvarani
    TEUNISSEN Mike   23rd, 5 for Salvarani (again)
    DE BIE Sean   26th, 5 for 20 teams

    1   Josedin   162
    2=   DFA123, Vladimir   62
    4   Salvarani   15
    5   Comodoro   14
    6   Blues_in_the_Bottle   12
    7=   Chiron, Zaka_fan   7
    9   DJW   6
    10=   17 other teams with De Bie   5

    Standings

    No positional change at all in the top ten, just the odd 5 point relative loss or gain here and there.  Just failing to get into the ten is DFA123, with a 7 point leap, just outdoing Josedin's 6 position rise. Only one other team (Vladimir) moved up at all, and that only by one place.

    1   Russell23   1811
    2   Nathanptz   1777
    3   Madrazo   1737
    4   Hakkie   1733
    5   Armchair   1731
    6   Laarsland   1674
    7   LosBrolin   1669
    8   AmisVelo   1666
    9   RoteLaterne   1636
    10   GPBlanco   1445
    11   DFA123   1441
    12   The_Asian   1432
    13   DJW   1425
    14   So2017   1424
    15   Zaka_fan   1414
    16   Shalgo   1408
    17   Leadbelly   1407
    18   Squire   1390
    19   ThePirate81   1372
    20   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1364
    21   TheArt   1278
    22   Scrool07   1163
    23   Vladimir   1120
    24   Froschi   1117
    25   MellowVelo   1049
    26   Comodoro   1033
    27   Salvarani   1018
    28   NorthAmericanScum   995
    29   Fauniera   983
    30   Josedin   926
    31   Bbass   910
    32   Search   854
    33   NairoQ   846
    34   SemirS   816
    35   Del1962   786
    36   Chiron   773
    37   Kazistuta   726
    38   Joelsim   681
    39   DJSprtsch   600
       CollectiveWisdom   1761
       Trudgin   453

    Paris-Roubaix on Sunday, probably the last race that many of our selected riders have any interest in.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #42 on: April 08, 2018, 18:57 »
    Race 16:Paris Roubaix

    Riders go unpicked if they either are too expensive, or if they were not expected to do well.  That accounts for the first two finishers today, but the game kicked in after they had finished, with 3 of the most popular picks featuring strongly.  This was the third biggest contributing event in terms of points, after the Ronde and E3.

    TERPSTRA Niki   3rd, 145pts for 20 teams
    VANMARCKE Sep   6th, 100pts for 24
    PHINNEY Taylor   8th, 80pts for Blues in the Bottle, Chiron and Zaka Fan
    STYBAR Zdenek   9th, 70pts for 20
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   10th, 62pts for DFA123 and Vladimir
    TEUNISSEN Mike   11th, 54pts   1 team
    NAESEN Oliver   12th, 46pts   1 team
    VAN AERT Wout   13th, 42   6
    WALLAYS Jelle   14th, 38   1
    GILBERT Philippe    15th, 34   1
    DEGENKOLB John   30   1
    VAN BAARLE Dylan   26   17
    HAUSSLER Heinrich   24   6
    DE BACKER Bert   22   1
    HAYMAN Mathew   20   1
    THEUNS Edward   16   2
    and thirteen 5 pointers

    1   Madrazo   351 (Terpstra, Stybar, Vanmarcke, Van Baarle, 2 fivers)
    2   LosBrolin   349 (Terpstra, Stybar, Vanmarcke, Haussler, 2 fivers)
    3   AmisVelo, Russell23   346 (Terpstra, Stybar, Vanmarcke, Van Baarle, 1 fiver)
    5   Hakkie   341 (Terpstra, Stybar, Vanmarcke, Van Baarle, no fivers)
    6   Zaka_fan   331 (Terpstra, Stybar, Phinney, Van Baarle, 2 fivers)
    7   RoteLaterne   325  (Terpstra, Stybar, Vanmarcke, 2 fivers)
    8   GPBlanco   319
    9   DFA123   305
    10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   281
    11   Leadbelly   276
    12   Shalgo   275
    13   Chiron   258
    14   Nathanptz   246
    15   Froschi   245
    16   The_Asian   244
    17   Vladimir   242
    18   Armchair, Laarsland   230
    20   DJW   225
    21   NairoQ   220
    22   So2017   215
    23   SemirS   202
    24   MellowVelo   201
    25   NorthAmericanScum   197
    26   ThePirate81   196
    27   Scrool07   155
    28   Fauniera   147
    29   Bbass, Del1962   145
    31   Comodoro   131
    32   Kazistuta   124
    33   Search   121
    34   Squire   117
    35   Joelsim   116
    36   DJSprtsch   100
    37   Salvarani   59
    38   Josedin   47
    39   TheArt   15
       CollectiveWisdom   346
       Trudgin*   5

    Standings

    Combining Terpstra and Stybar pretty much defined the high scorers even before this event, so not a huge difference around the top, except that those lacking Vanmarcke slide a bit. So Madrazo and Hakkie overtake Nathanptz to take the lower places on the podium, and Los Brolin, Amis Velo and Rote Laterne overtake (or at least draw level with) Armchair Cyclist and Laarsland.  Although he didn't even make the top ten scorers of the day, Leadbelly is the climber of the day (4 places).

    1   Russell23   2157
    2   Madrazo   2088
    3   Hakkie   2074
    4   Nathanptz   2023
    5   LosBrolin   2018
    6   AmisVelo   2012
    7   RoteLaterne   1961
    7   Armchair   1961
    9   Laarsland   1904
    10   GPBlanco   1764
    11   DFA123   1746
    12   Zaka_fan   1745
    13   Leadbelly   1683
    13   Shalgo   1683
    15   The_Asian   1676
    16   DJW   1650
    17   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1645
    18   So2017   1639
    19   ThePirate81   1568
    20   Squire   1507
    21   Froschi   1362
    21   Vladimir   1362
    23   Scrool07   1318
    24   TheArt   1293
    25   MellowVelo   1250
    26   NorthAmericanScum   1192
    27   Comodoro   1164
    28   Fauniera   1130
    29   Salvarani   1077
    30   NairoQ   1066
    31   Bbass   1055
    32   Chiron   1031
    33   SemirS   1018
    34   Search   975
    35   Josedin   973
    36   Del1962   931
    37   Kazistuta   850
    38   Joelsim   797
    39   DJSprtsch   700
       CollectiveWisdom   2107
       Trudgin   458


    So now the key question becomes "who held back places in their team for hilly classics riders?"

    We'll begin to find out in the Brabant on Wednesday.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #43 on: April 11, 2018, 18:32 »
    Race 17: Brabantse Pijl

    A partial answer to the game's big tactical question: who do you find a place for who will have a chance of competing with the expensive non-Spring specialists who tend to take most points in these last 4 races?  Some teams were not totally cobble-focussed.

    COLBRELLI Sonny   2nd, 84 pts for Laarsland and Trudgin*
    BENOOT Tiesj   3rd, 72 for Armchair Cyclist, Scrool07, The Art
    IMPEY Daryl   10th, 26 for Joelsim and Pirate81
    MARTENS Paul     11th, 22 for Trudgin*
    COQUARD Bryan    19th, 7 for 13 teams


       Trudgin*   106
    1   Laarsland   84
    2   Scrool07   79
    3=   Armchair, TheArt    72
    5   ThePirate81, Joelsim   33
    7   Ten teams with Coquard only   7

    Standings

    No change on the podium ( 7 point relative loss to the other two for Madrazo), but immediately behind that Armchair Cyclist has a 3 place rise.  2 place jumps each for Scrool07 and The Art, and (back in the top ten) a one place improvement for Laarsland.

    1   Russell23   2164
    2   Madrazo   2088
    3   Hakkie   2081
    4   Armchair   2033
    5   Nathanptz   2023
    6   LosBrolin   2018
    7   AmisVelo   2012
    8   Laarsland   1988
    9   RoteLaterne   1961
    10   GPBlanco   1764
    11   DFA123   1746
    12   Zaka_fan   1745
    13   Leadbelly   1690
    13   Shalgo   1690
    15   The_Asian   1676
    16   DJW   1650
    17   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1645
    18   So2017   1639
    19   ThePirate81   1601
    20   Squire   1507
    21   Scrool07   1397
    22   TheArt   1365
    23   Froschi   1362
    23   Vladimir   1362
    25   MellowVelo   1257
    26   NorthAmericanScum   1192
    27   Comodoro   1171
    28   Fauniera   1137
    29   Salvarani   1077
    30   NairoQ   1066
    31   Bbass   1055
    32   Chiron   1031
    33   SemirS   1018
    34   Search   975
    35   Josedin   973
    36   Del1962   938
    37   Kazistuta   857
    38   Joelsim   830
    39   DJSprtsch   707
       CollectiveWisdom   2114
       Trudgin   564
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #44 on: April 11, 2018, 20:58 »
    Good chance that Benoot could be the winning pick in the end Armchair!
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #45 on: April 11, 2018, 21:03 »
    Good chance that Benoot could be the winning pick in the end Armchair!

    At the very least, he will have done enough to make me feel hard done by about Devenyns' injury and Gaudin's non-counting performance in Le Samyn.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #46 on: April 15, 2018, 16:29 »
    This morning's top 5:
    Russell23    none of the top ten
    Madrazo    Gasparotto
    Hakkie      Gasparotto
    Armchair    Gasparotto
    Nathanptz     Valgren

    With only the top ten riders on the spreadsheet so far, less than 100 points from virtual yellow jersey Nathanptz to currently 5th, Armchair Cyclist.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #47 on: April 15, 2018, 21:46 »
    Race 18 Amstel Gold

    There were suggestions of what riders had been selected who  could still make a difference, and no-one suspected that the winner of the first race in our game still had this up his sleeve.

    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   1st, 220 pts for Blues in the Bottle and Nathanptz
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   3rd, 112pts for Armchair Cyclist, B'bass, DFA123, Hakkie, Madrazo, Search, The Art, The Asian and Trudgin*
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   7th, 66pts for B'bass, Del1962, Kazistuta, Mellow Velo, The Asian
    VANENDERT Jelle   10th, 46pts for Scrool07
    IMPEY Daryl   11th, 40 for Joelsim and Pirate81
    GILBERT Philippe    13th, 30 for So 2017
    MOLARD Rudy   15th, 24 for DJW and Scrool07
    DE TIER Floris   16th, 21 for Chiron
    GESINK Robert   28th, 8 for GPBlanco
    and 7 five-pointers, 6 of whom are only on one or two teams each, and the other is the most popular pick, Vanmarcke

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   225
    2   Nathanptz   220
    3   Bbass, The_Asian   178
    5   DFA123, Hakkie, Madrazo   117
    8   Armchair, Search, TheArt   112
    11   Kazistuta, MellowVelo   71
    13   Scrool07   70
    14   Del1962   66
    15   Joelsim, ThePirate81   45
    17   So2017   30
    18   Chiron   26
    19   DJW   24
    20   GPBlanco   13
    21   DJSprtsch, SemirS, Vladimir   10
    24   15 teams with a single five-pointer   5
    39   Squire   0
       CollectiveWisdom   5
       Trudgin*   127

    Standings
    The eight teams with Gasparotto include those who were 2nd, 3rd and 4th this morning, While Nathanptz, who was 5th, was one of the two who has Valgren. Nathanptz rises to the top, while Madrazo and Hakkie maintain their podium places.  Russell, who has only Vanmarcke among today's finishers, slips to 4th.  Blues in the Bottle is the (7 place) riser of the day, and is into the top ten.

    1   Nathanptz   2243
    2   Madrazo   2205
    3   Hakkie   2198
    4   Russell23   2169
    5   Armchair   2145
    6   LosBrolin   2023
    7   AmisVelo   2017
    8   Laarsland   1993
    9   RoteLaterne   1966
    10   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1870
    11   DFA123   1863
    12   The_Asian   1854
    13   GPBlanco   1777
    14   Zaka_fan   1750
    15   Leadbelly   1695
    15   Shalgo   1695
    17   DJW   1674
    18   So2017   1669
    19   ThePirate81   1646
    20   Squire   1507
    21   TheArt   1477
    22   Scrool07   1467
    23   Vladimir   1372
    24   Froschi   1367
    25   MellowVelo   1328
    26   Bbass   1233
    27   NorthAmericanScum   1197
    28   Comodoro   1176
    29   Fauniera   1142
    30   Search   1087
    31   Salvarani   1082
    32   NairoQ   1071
    33   Chiron   1057
    34   SemirS   1028
    35   Del1962   1004
    36   Josedin   978
    37   Kazistuta   928
    38   Joelsim   875
    39   DJSprtsch   717
       CollectiveWisdom   2119
       Trudgin   691

    I suspect that 4 teams are still in with a decent shout, and 2 others will at least be close to the podium.

    The Asian, with both Alaphilippe (a unique pick) and Gasparotto, could yet make a late surge, but I reckon he would need him to win one of the two remaining races, and be top 5 in the other, to have a real chance.  Nathanptz will be pleased that Valgren is down to ride in both Ardennes races, but hasn't got great history in either (although 14th in L-B-L 2 years ago will give him some hope).  The 4 riders in Hakkie's team that he does not share with Madrazo will not give him much hope for catching him, but I doubt their opposite numbers will extend Madrazo's advantage either: the fate of these two teams lies in Gasparotto, and the dream of him repeating his 2016 campaign (although a much more modest set of results would suffice to catch Nathanptz: a top ten in either race could suffice if Valgren does not feature again.  Armchair Cyclist retains 2 irons in the fire, and if Benoot can achieve the aims I have described for Gasparotto, I will be in the same, Gasparotto dependent, boat as Madrazo and Hakkie, and if he gets top 10 in his debut in both races, I will be up with Nathan (if Valgren lets him down).

    In short: Nathanptz will hope Valgren can consolidate his lead, a real star performance from Alaphilippe could win it for the Asian, and while Madrazo's hopes lie with Gasparotto,  Armchair Cyclist will look to him and also to Benoot.  Podium chances remain for Hakkie, who will want to see Madrazo do as well as possible, and Russell23, who will be cheering for any and all of the remaining 171 riders in each race.

    And the final order could still be decided by those finishing much further down the field and how many five point finishers each team can muster.

    We'll gather again on Wednesday to see how much mud has cleared after the Arrow has been fired.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #48 on: April 18, 2018, 22:48 »
    Sorry it's quite late: I had to wait until well into the evening to watch it.

    Race 19: Fleche Wallonne

    Today was about two riders and one team as far as the upper reaches of the game is concerned, and very mediocre for everyone else.

    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   1st, 220pts for B'bass, Del1962, Kazistuta, Mellow Velo, The Asian
    VANENDERT Jelle   3rd, 112 for Scrool07
    MOLARD Rudy   13th, 30 for Scrool07 (again) and DJW
    GESINK Robert   20th, 16 for GPBlanco
    MCCARTHY Jay   21st, 15 for Chiron
    GILBERT Philippe    24th, 12 for So2017
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   27th, 9 for 8 teams

    and 7 selected 5 pointers, none of whom were on more than 3 teams.

    1=   Bbass, The_Asian   229
    3=   Del1962, Kazistuta, MellowVelo   220
    6   Scrool07   147
    7   DJW   30
    8   Chiron   20
    9   GPBlanco   16
    10   Armchair, DFA123, TheArt   14
    13   So2017   12
    14   Fauniera   10
    15   Hakkie, Madrazo, Search   9
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle, DJSprtsch, Froschi, Nathanptz, Salvarani   5
    23   the rest   0
       CollectiveWisdom   0
       Trudgin*   14

    Standings
    No change, and very few points gained, among the top 5, but closing on them rapidly, and still with considerable for the last lap, is The Asian.  That is the only team in the top 15 this morning to have moved in the right direction, but further down the table, that 6 place rise was matched by Kazistuta and beaten (8 spots) by Del1962.

    1   Nathanptz   2248
    2   Madrazo   2214
    3   Hakkie   2207
    4   Russell23   2169
    5   Armchair   2159
    6   The_Asian   2083
    7   LosBrolin   2023
    8   AmisVelo   2017
    9   Laarsland   1993
    10   RoteLaterne   1966
    11   DFA123   1877
    12   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1875
    13   GPBlanco   1793
    14   Zaka_fan   1750
    15   DJW   1704
    16   Leadbelly   1695
    16   Shalgo   1695
    18   So2017   1681
    19   ThePirate81   1646
    20   Scrool07   1614
    21   MellowVelo   1548
    22   Squire   1507
    23   TheArt   1491
    24   Bbass   1462
    25   Froschi   1372
    25   Vladimir   1372
    27   Del1962   1224
    28   NorthAmericanScum   1197
    29   Comodoro   1176
    30   Fauniera   1152
    31   Kazistuta   1148
    32   Search   1096
    33   Salvarani   1087
    34   Chiron   1077
    35   NairoQ   1071
    36   SemirS   1028
    37   Josedin   978
    38   Joelsim   875
    39   DJSprtsch   722
       CollectiveWisdom   2119
       Trudgin*   705

    So, the overall is still in the hands of the same 4 riders. 
    So let's imagine that, as today, Valgren merely finishes.  If Gasparotto comes 14th, Benoot 11th and Alaphilippe 3rd, then we will have 5 teams within about 10 points of each other at the top.

    If Gasparotto were to be reduced to an also ran, then 7th for Benoot (to my advantage) or a second place for Alaphilippe (for The Asian) would still put Nathanptz' hold on the (non-existent) trophy in doubt.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #49 on: April 22, 2018, 16:27 »
    Less than ten points between winner and third as the figures stand, but CQ are only showing 60 finishers so far, and PCS tells me there are another 72 5 pointers, who might hold the key.

    EDIT: They made no substantial difference: give me a while and the results will be up.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #50 on: April 22, 2018, 19:25 »
    Race 20, and the end of the game: Liege-Bastogne-Liege

    Perhaps not surprisingly, it is largely the same riders who scored on Wednesday, but in a very different distribution of points.

    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   4th, 125pts for B'bass, Del1962, Kazistuta, Mellow Velo, The Asian   
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   6th, 100 pts for 8 teams
    FORMOLO Davide   7th, 90pts for Vladimir
    VANENDERT Jelle   11th, 54 for Scrool07
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   19th, 26 for Blues in the Bottle and Nathanptz
    BENOOT Tiesj   18pts for Armchair Cyclist, Scrool07, The Art
    GESINK Robert   16 for GPBlanco
    MOLARD Rudy   12 for Scrool07 and DJW

    and 8 five pointers, 7 of whom are unique picks and one was on 2 teams.

    1=   Bbass, The_Asian   225 (Alaphilippe and Gasparotto)
    3=   Del1962, Kazistuta, MellowVelo   125 (Alaphilippe)
    6=   Armchair, TheArt   118 (Gasparotto and Benoot)
    8   DFA123   105 (Gasparotto and a fiver)
    9=   Hakkie, Madrazo, Search   100 (Gasparotto)
    12   Vladimir   90 (Formolo)
    13   Scrool07   84 (Vanendert, Benoot, Molard)
    14=   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Nathanptz   26 (Valgren)
    16   GPBlanco   16
    17   DJW   12
    18=   Chiron, DJSprtsch   10
    20=   Fauniera, Joelsim, So2017, ThePirate81   5
    24=   Everyone else   0
       CollectiveWisdom   0
       Trudgin*   105 (Gasparotto and a fiver)

    Final Standings

    Gasparotto did do well enough, though, for Valgren's position to be insufficient to save Nathanptz' lead.  Alaphilippe was gaining fast on Bardet and an extra 20 points that would have completed The Asian's late charge up the table, but but didn't make it, and Benoot's rather anonymous ride in the second group meant that Armchair couldn't disturb those who shared Gasparotto with him.  And so, in a very close finish, Madrazo moves up from second place to take the laurels, and that very small small gap between him and Hakkie is infiltrated by The Asian, and those three make up our podium.

    1   Madrazo   2314
    2   The_Asian   2308
    3   Hakkie   2307
    4   Armchair   2277
    5   Nathanptz   2274
    6   Russell23   2169
    7   LosBrolin   2023
    8   AmisVelo   2017
    9   Laarsland   1993
    10   DFA123   1982
    11   RoteLaterne   1966
    12   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1901
    13   GPBlanco   1809
    14   Zaka_fan   1750
    15   DJW   1716
    16   Scrool07   1698
    17   Leadbelly   1695
    17   Shalgo   1695
    19   Bbass   1687
    20   MellowVelo   1673
    21   So2017   1671
    22   ThePirate81   1651
    23   TheArt   1609
    24   Squire   1507
    25   Vladimir   1462
    26   Froschi   1372
    27   Del1962   1349
    28   Kazistuta   1273
    29   Search   1211
    30   NorthAmericanScum   1197
    31   Comodoro   1176
    32   Fauniera   1157
    33   Chiron   1087
    33   Salvarani   1087
    35   NairoQ   1071
    36   SemirS   1028
    37   Josedin   978
    38   Joelsim   880
    39   DJSprtsch   732
       CollectiveWisdom   2119
       Trudgin*   810

    So, 7 points from 1st to 3rd, 40 from 1st to 5th, and with 150m of the 20th race left, I didn't know who would win.

    Congratulations to Madrazo and to his podium companions, and thanks to all for your entries.  See you again in about a week in the Giro game thread.

    A bit of number crunching to follow, either this evening or tomorrow night.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #51 on: April 22, 2018, 19:42 »
    thanks for letting me hang on - but im glad its over  :lol
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #52 on: April 22, 2018, 20:22 »
    526 riders scored CQ points in this series of races: 32 of them got more than 200.

    SAGAN Peter   852pts   0 teams
    TERPSTRA Niki   695   20
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   598   2
    STUYVEN Jasper   506   0
    BENOOT Tiesj   500   3
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   489   0
    GILBERT Philippe   457   1
    DEMARE Arnaud   425   0
    VANMARCKE Sep   417   24
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   416   5
    STYBAR Zdenek   369   20
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   368   0
    WELLENS Tim   319   0
    NIBALI Vincenzo   311   0
    BARDET Romain   310   0
    NAESEN Oliver   309   1
    KREUZIGER Roman   308   0
    COLBRELLI Sonny   305   1
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   300   2
    VIVIANI Elia   298   0
    JAKOBSEN Fabio   295   1
    Jungels Bob   290   0
    VAN AERT Wout   278   6
    MATTHEWS Michael   253   0
    LAMPAERT Yves   253   0
    PEDERSEN Mads   250   0
    Ackermann Pascal   250   0
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   221   8
    DEHAES Kenny   213   1
    VANENDERT Jelle   212   1
    TEUNISSEN Mike   205   1
    HOFSTETTER Hugo   202   0

    And 39 took at least as many in these races as they did in the whole of last year:

    Name/points/price/%age return/number of teams
    BOVENHUIS Jasper   26   0   ******   0
    BRAND Samuel   5   0   ******   0
    HAVIK Piotr   5   0   ******   0
    KLEIMAN Wim   5   0   ******   0
    MÄRKL Niklas   5   0   ******   0
    TRARIEUX Julien   5   0   ******   0
    Turgis Jimmy   57   5   1140.0   0
    Fenn Andrew   83   8   1037.5   0
    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose   145   26   557.7   1
    CAPIOT Amaury   168   32   525.0   20
    OLIVEIRA Rui Filipe Alves   47   9   522.2   0
    BASSO Leonardo   28   6   466.7   1
    CRADDOCK Lawson   57   15   380.0   0
    PHINNEY Taylor   102   36   283.3   3
    JAKOBSEN Fabio   295   118   250.0   1
    SISR Frantisek   140   56   250.0   1
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   221   93   237.6   8
    TURGIS Tanguy   51   24   212.5   0
    DE BONDT Dries   94   46   204.3   0
    DE BIE Sean   113   57   198.2   20
    Ackermann Pascal   250   134   186.6   0
    Goolaerts Michael   17   10   170.0   0
    TERPSTRA Niki   695   417   166.7   20
    OTTEMA Rick   48   29   165.5   0
    DUVAL Julien   87   53   164.2   0
    WELTEN Bram   84   56   150.0   0
    GUARNIERI Jacopo   15   10   150.0   1
    WISNIOWSKI Lukasz   154   105   146.7   0
    Dempster Zakkari   116   80   145.0   0
    HOFSTETTER Hugo   202   142   142.3   0
    VAN RHEE Joey   36   27   133.3   0
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   598   483   123.8   2
    ARCHBOLD Shane   42   34   123.5   0
    HAUSSLER Heinrich   73   60   121.7   6
    KREUZIGER Roman   308   265   116.2   0
    SERRY Pieter   131   117   112.0   0
    DE BACKER Bert   60   55   109.1   1
    TEUNISSEN Mike   205   199   103.0   1
    KAMSTRA Brian   5   5   100.0   0


    Impeccable picks

    SAGAN Peter
    TERPSTRA Niki
    KREUZIGER Roman
    JAKOBSEN Fabio
    GASPAROTTO Enrico
    CAPIOT Amaury
    HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose
    Fenn Andrew
    Turgis Jimmy
    BOVENHUIS Jasper
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #53 on: April 22, 2018, 21:26 »
    Congratulations to Madrazo, what a tight competition. Gasparotto cost me a top ten result in the last race.
    Thanks for the game Armchair_cyclist. See you all in Israel.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #54 on: April 22, 2018, 22:15 »
    Madrazo's winning team:
    Rider/Price/Points
    TERPSTRA Niki   417   695
    VANMARCKE Sep   602   417
    STYBAR Zdenek   503   369
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   93   221
    ROELANDTS Jürgen   228   167
    HALVORSEN Kristoffer   151   94
    VAN BAARLE Dylan   347   92
    BLYTHE Adam   267   84
    GERTS Floris   115   61
    BRESCHEL Matti   101   61
    VANDENBERGH Stijn   40   38
    STANNARD Ian   135   15

    The Asian shared 4 of those, TERPSTRA, STYBAR, GASPAROTTO and STANNARD, and while ALAPHILIPPE, DEHAES, CAPIOT, DE BIE and HAUSSLER  did their bits to make it close, he will feel that EDMONDSON, VAN HOOYDONCK or ENGER could have done a little more, and it only needed a little more to win it.

    Hakkie and Madrazo had very similar teams, but Hakkie's choice of CAPIOT, COQUARD, THWAITES and BASKA (rather than BLYTHE, GERTS Floris, BRESCHEL and VANDENBERGH) were what let him down (although Capiot is unlikely to get much of the blame).

    Me: I'll rue the injury to Devenyns, and the 88 points that Gaudin got in the non-counting Samyn and Tro-Bro Leon races.

    Best possible team
    I post this with no great confidence (Hakkie usually manages to find a better permutation than I do), but the best I can find is:
    TERPSTRA Niki
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
    STYBAR Zdenek
    KREUZIGER Roman
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens
    JAKOBSEN Fabio
    GASPAROTTO Enrico
    Ackermann Pascal
    VANENDERT Jelle
    TEUNISSEN Mike
    HOFSTETTER Hugo
    CAPIOT Amaury
    which would have scored 3823 from a spend of 2995.  Noteworthy that this selection is 25% Ardennes riders (not even counting the Amstel winner), while many teams in the game scored almost nothing after Roubaix.  Gasparotto's Ardennes campaign, as in 2016, was a key factor in the win.

    Expensive flops
    These riders cost more than the average 250 point/rider spend, but scored 1/6 of less of that cost.
    Rider/points/price/ teams
    DEGENKOLB John   75   999   1
    FELLINE Fabio   10   736   5
    DE BUYST Jasper   34   710   1
    THEUNS Edward   95   645   2
    LUTSENKO Alexey   25   563   1
    HAAS Nathan   28   533   1
    BARBIER Rudy   5   506   1
    BOOM Lars   0   465   1
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   34   478   1
    VAKOC Petr   0   439   1
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   0   405   1
    MCCARTHY Jay   20   379   1
    BETTIOL Alberto   15   354   3
    VAN DER HOORN Taco   0   334   1
    GESINK Robert   40   318   1
    ROWE Luke   19   291   2
    VAN POPPEL Danny   26   287   3
    CAVENDISH Mark   0   257   3
    DEVENYNS Dries   0   255   5
    LANGEVELD Sebastian   35   260   6   
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #55 on: April 22, 2018, 22:47 »
    Importance of each race

    Race/points scored/%age of game's total points  (In date order)
    Omloop   4412   7.0
    KBK   437   0.7
    Strade   2758   4.4
    GP Industria   1312   2.1
    Drenthe   661   1.1
    Nokere   2898   4.6
    Handzame   829   1.3
    MSR   3739   6.0
    Denain   349   0.6
    De Panne   1326   2.1
    E3   9255   14.7
    Gent-Wev   3480   5.5
    Dwars   5586   8.9
    Ronde   11156   17.8
    Schelde   432   0.7
    PR   8418   13.4
    Brabantse   443   0.7
    Amstel   2054   3.3
    Fleche   1447   2.3
    LBL   1760   2.8
          
       62752   100.0


    Anything else you want to glean from the data?  Knock yourself out, and share any interesting insights/calculations.
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