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2018 Spring Classics CQ game
« on: February 04, 2018, 18:27 »
So there are warm up races, but soon the focus moves further north, and that is when we really get started

Team
12 men Fewer riders than most games, so more reason to make every pick count.

Budget
3000 pts  These are (by tradition for this game, dating from the first edition set up by CQ Manager) from the end of year lists, so 2017 points.

Scoring
CQ points from the Springtime one day races classified 1.HC or higher from Omloop Het Nieuwsblad to Liège-Bastogne-Liège.  Unless disqualifications are announced by time of the release of results from LBL, I will ignore them for the purposes of this game.

We have previously had some 1.1 races, but they have usually contributed little to the game, have had few WT teams in them, and none of them last year met the threshhold that I have held in terms of at least 6 WT teams competing.  So unless I am very strongly petitioned over the next week, the points are to be gained in these races:
1      24/02/2018      Omloop Het Nieuwsblad      1.WT3
2      25/02/2018      Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne      1.HC
3      03/03/2018      Strade Bianche      1.WT3
4      04/03/2018      GP Industria & Artigianato - Larciano      1.HC
5      11/03/2018      Ronde van Drenthe      1.HC
6      14/03/2018      Nokere Koerse      1.HC
7      16/03/2018      Handzame Classic      1.HC
8      17/03/2018      Milano - Sanremo      1.WT1
9      18/03/2018      GP de Denain - Porte du Hainaut      1.HC
10      21/03/2018      Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde      1.HC
11      23/03/2018      E3 Harelbeke      1.WT2
12      25/03/2018      Gent - Wevelgem      1.WT2
13      28/03/2018      Dwars door Vlaanderen      1.WT3
14      01/04/2018      Ronde van Vlaanderen      1.WT1
15      04/04/2018      Scheldeprijs      1.HC
16      08/04/2018      Paris - Roubaix      1.WT1
17      11/04/2018      Brabantse Pijl      1.HC
18      15/04/2018      Amstel Gold Race      1.WT2
19      18/04/2018      Flèche Wallonne      1.WT2
20      22/04/2018      Liège - Bastogne - Liège      1.WT1

Submitting your team
As ever, in CQ format (eg QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander) to my PM box at Velorooms or Cycling News before the red flag is dropped in the Omloop (24th Feb, time will depend on your location).  My bunch of underachievers has been sent to Joelsim, because he was the first to send his to me.

A dropbox spreadsheet here might help you to budget the team and to check the name formats.

Entries 10 1/2 hours to go, I'm going to bed.
AmisVelo
Armchair
Blues_in_the_Bottle
Chiron
Comodoro
DJSprtsch
DJW
Fauniera
GPBlanco
Hakkie
Joelsim
Josedin
Kazistuta
Leadbelly
LosBrolin
Madrazo
MellowVelo
NairoQ
Nathanptz
NorthAmericanScum
RoteLaterne
Russell23
Salvarani
Scrool07
Search
Shalgo
Squire
TheArt
ThePirate81
Vladimir
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  • « Last Edit: February 24, 2018, 01:33 by Armchair Cyclist »

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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 19:31 »
    No mention of last year's surprise winner  :o

    Right need to orgainse and see if I can not come last
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #2 on: February 04, 2018, 22:33 »
    You can of course have a mention, as can other top ranked teams in the duration of the game.
    You can also have a little trophy to sit alongside your medals below your avatar, with apologies for it being late.

    2017
    1   JustSomeGuy   2112
    2   Kazistuta   1955
    3   MellowVelo   1921
    4   EvansIsTheBest   1904
    5   AG   1783

    2016
    1   Vladimir   2378
    2   Murrjt   2052
    3   Kazistuta   2043
    4   RoteLaterne   2007
    5   Josedin   1926

    2015
    1 GeraintTooFast 1899
    2 Search 1800
    3 Asdfgh101 1732
    4 DJW 1673
    5 Karaev 1657

    2014
    1 Josedin 2197
    2 Madrazo 2103
    3  DJSprtsch 2075
    4  JustSomeGuy 2060
    5  asdfgh101 2030

    2013
    1   rmeloa   2186
    2   mc_mountain   2099
    3   Ruudz0r   1802
    4   Fool on the Hill   1725
    5   Hugo Koblet   1709

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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #3 on: February 04, 2018, 23:35 »

    so

    Gilbert & Sagan and i owe you points.....


    need to rethink this
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 23:49 »
    so

    Gilbert & Sagan and i owe you points.....


    need to rethink this

    Whereas last year, Sagan needed help from no-one else to put a team over budget (and, for the sake of my team in the main game, I hope the same is true next  year).
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #5 on: February 05, 2018, 10:03 »
    Team entered.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 09:59 »
    Team entered.

    Not in the bag though  :cool
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 10:05 »
    Not in the bag though  :cool

    Nah, I'm not good at Classics.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #8 on: February 16, 2018, 01:11 »
    Nine entries so far, with about 8 1/2 days to go. 

    There are 52 riders selected so far, of whom 28 are unique picks (every team has at least one).
    There are 2 riders on six of the 9 teams, 3 on five of them, and 5 on four teams.

    The closer we get to the Omloop, the closer we are to the deadline: don't forget.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #9 on: February 18, 2018, 22:55 »
    Nice to see I got a top 5 in this game.

    Team submitted, let the classics begin.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 11:22 »
    About 3 days left to get your team in.

    17 teams are in so far, with 71 riders selected, 29 of them just the once.  There are 6 riders on more than half the teams.

    At 3000 points for 12 riders, the average spend is 250/rider.  One rider has been selected (only once) who takes up four times that average budget; two men costing more than thrice that have been picked, both multiple times; while of the four riders costing between 500 and 750 that have been chosen, two are on more than half the teams, and one is a unique pick.
    Four teams so far have managed to fit in three of these budget-busters, and eight have two of them. Only one team at the moment that is egalitarian enough to have no-one above 500 points.
    To make up for these riders, cheaper picks are necessary: 21 riders costing less than 100 points have been nominated, and three of them are on more than half the teams.

    Applying last year's results in these races to this year's teams, the scores range from 1585 to 537; popularity ranking scores vary from 35% to 86% of the current Collective Wisdom team's score.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #11 on: February 23, 2018, 10:23 »
     24 hours and 22 minutes  to go (from the datestamp on this post)
    Don't forget to enter.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #12 on: February 24, 2018, 13:32 »
    38 teams in (there is a 39th, which I'll explain below), which is a bit of a drop from previous years, with some regulars missing, but great to have some new entrants.

    Teams
    Alphabetical order, price order within teams, asterisks show unique picks.

    Amis Velo
       Vanmarcke Sep   
       Stybar Zdenek   
       Terpstra Niki   
       Van Baarle Dylan   
       Langeveld Sebastian   
       Roelandts Jürgen   
       Offredo Yoann   
       Vliegen Loïc   
       De Vreese Laurens   
       De Bie Sean   
       Allegaert Piet   
       Vandenbergh Stijn   

    Armchair Cyclist
       BENOOT Tiesj   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN LERBERGHE Bert   
       DEVENYNS Dries   
       GAUDIN Damien   *
       STANNARD Ian   
       BRESCHEL Matti   
       GASPAROTTO Enrico   
       DE BIE Sean   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       CAPIOT Amaury   

    B'bass
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   *
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       ROWE Luke   
       GOUGEARD Alexis   *
       EDMONDSON Alexander   
       GASPAROTTO Enrico   
       CARBEL SVENDGAARD Michael   *
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   

    Blues_in_the_Bottle
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   
       VAN LERBERGHE Bert   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       ROWE Luke   
       HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
       VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       PHINNEY Taylor   
       MOSER Moreno   

    Chiron
       vanmarcke sep   
       van aert wout   
       mccarthy jay   *
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   *
       conti valerio   *
       oss daniel   
       van poppel boy   *
       edmondson alexander   
       de tier floris   *
       phinney taylor   
       MOSER Moreno   

    Comodoro
       FELLINE Fabio   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       OSS Daniel   
       GERTS Floris   
       VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem   *
       NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas   *
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   

    Del1962
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN POPPEL Danny   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       ROSA Diego   
       BRAMBILLA Gianluca   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       GUARDINI Andrea   *
       ALBANESE Vincenzo   *
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    DFA123
       Vanmarcke Sep   
       Stybar Zdenek   
       Van Aert Wout   
       Van Baarle Dylan   
       Debusschere Jens   
       Roelandts Jürgen   
       Vermote Julien   
       Gasparotto Enrico   
       Nizzolo Giacomo   
       Vandenbergh Stijn   
       Moser Moreno   
       Seigle Romain   *

    DJSprtsch
       DE BUYST Jasper   *
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   *
       DEVENYNS Dries   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       CLAEYS Dimitri   *
       BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto   *
       VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter   
       DOUBEY Fabien   *
       KÖNIG Leopold   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    DJW
       MOSCON Gianni   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       LANGEVELD Sebastian   
       VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   
       MOLARD Rudy   
       HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
       STANNARD Ian   
       BRESCHEL Matti   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       BASSO Leonardo   *

    Fauniera
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       VAN AERT Wout   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   
       BETTIOL Alberto   
       VAN POPPEL Danny   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       GOGL Michael   *
       VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan   
       GANNA Filippo   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       MOSER Moreno   

    Froschi
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       HAAS Nathan   *
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   *
       BETTIOL Alberto   
       LANGEVELD Sebastian   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       STANNARD Ian   

    GPBlanco
       MOSCON Gianni   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       GESINK Robert   *
       OSS Daniel   
       WALLAYS Jelle   *
       DE BIE Sean   
       WAEYTENS Zico   *
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    Hakkie
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       THWAITES Scott   
       HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
       STANNARD Ian   
       GASPAROTTO Enrico   
       BASKA Erik   
       CAPIOT Amaury   

    Joelsim
       FELLINE Fabio   
       THEUNS Edward   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       IMPEY Daryl   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       OWEN Logan   
       VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       WARLOP Jordi   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    Josedin
       BARBIER Rudy   *
       VAN AERT Wout   
       VERMELTFOORT Coen   *
       VAN DER HOORN Taco   *
       DEVENYNS Dries   
       KEISSE Iljo   *
       DEVRIENDT Tom   *
       VENDRAME Andrea   *
       HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
       JAKOBSEN Fabio   *
       MCNULTY Brandon   *
       HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose   *

    Kazistuta
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       FELLINE Fabio   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       NAESEN Lawrence   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       HAUSSLER Heinrich   
       DE BIE Sean   
       GANNA Filippo   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   
       BOECKMANS Kris   

    Laarsland
       COLBRELLI Sonny   *
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       OSS Daniel   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       BIERMANS Jenthe   
       GANNA Filippo   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       CAPIOT Amaury   

    Leadbelly
       MOSCON Gianni   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       EDMONDSON Alexander   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       MOSER Moreno   
       MARCOTTE Eric   *
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    Los Brolin
       MOSCON Gianni   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       KENNAUGH Peter   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       HAUSSLER Heinrich   
       DE BIE Sean   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       MOSER Moreno   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    Madrazo
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       BLYTHE Adam   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
       STANNARD Ian   
       GERTS Floris   
       BRESCHEL Matti   
       GASPAROTTO Enrico   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   

    Mellow Velo
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       STANNARD Ian   
       DE BIE Sean   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   
       BOECKMANS Kris   
       INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat   *

    NairoQ
       THEUNS Edward   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       VAKOC Petr   *
       DEVENYNS Dries   
       VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   
       STANNARD Ian   
       HAUSSLER Heinrich   
       BIERMANS Jenthe   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       MOSER Moreno   
       KÖNIG Leopold   

    Nathanptz
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       ROOSEN Timo   
       EIKING Odd Christian   *
       OSS Daniel   
       THWAITES Scott   
       KENNAUGH Peter   
       GERTS Floris   
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   

    NorthAmericanScum
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       VAN AERT Wout   
       BOOM Lars   *
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       VERMOTE Julien   
       OSS Daniel   
       NAESEN Lawrence   
       OWEN Logan   
       VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       HAUSSLER Heinrich   

    Rote Laterne
       MOSCON Gianni   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   *
       ENGER Sondre Holst   
       GAREL Adrien   *
       TANNER David   *

    Russell23
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       OSS Daniel   
       THWAITES Scott   
       STANNARD Ian   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   

    Salvarani
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   
       BETTIOL Alberto   
       ROOSEN Timo   
       LIGTHART Pim   *
       BLYTHE Adam   
       SINKELDAM Ramon   *
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       VERMOTE Julien   
       TEUNISSEN Mike   *
       THWAITES Scott   
       VLIEGEN Loïc   
       DE BIE Sean   

    Scrool07
       BENOOT Tiesj   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VANENDERT Jelle   *
       LANGEVELD Sebastian   
       DEVENYNS Dries   
       MOLARD Rudy   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       OFFREDO Yoann   
       DE VREESE Laurens   
       BRESCHEL Matti   
       VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   

    Search
       MOSCON Gianni   
       FELLINE Fabio   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       VAN POPPEL Danny   
       GATTO Oscar   *
       GASPAROTTO Enrico   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       HAUSSLER Heinrich   
       DE BIE Sean   
       DE BACKER Bert   *
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   

    SemirS
       NAESEN Oliver   *
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume   
       HAYMAN Mathew   *
       STANNARD Ian   
       DE VREESE Laurens   
       PLANCKAERT Edward   *
       BRESCHEL Matti   
       BASKA Erik   
       BIERMANS Jenthe   
       LEEMANS Rob   *

    Shalgo
       DEGENKOLB John   *
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       ROSA Diego   
       STANNARD Ian   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    So 2017
       GILBERT Philippe   *
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       LANGEVELD Sebastian   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       VALLEE Boris   *
       SISR Frantisek   *
       ALLEGAERT Piet   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       FARAZIJN Maxime   *
       MORICE Julien   *
       VAN ROOY Kenneth   *

    Squire
       MOSCON Gianni   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       VAN AERT Wout   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       HALVORSEN Kristoffer   
       VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   
       WARLOP Jordi   

    The Art
       MOSCON Gianni   
       BENOOT Tiesj   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       ROOSEN Timo   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       BRAMBILLA Gianluca   
       GASPAROTTO Enrico   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    The Asian
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       DEHAES Kenny   *
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       EDMONDSON Alexander   
       STANNARD Ian   
       GASPAROTTO Enrico   
       VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan   
       HAUSSLER Heinrich   
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    ThePirate81
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       IMPEY Daryl   
       ROELANDTS Jürgen   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       BRAMBILLA Gianluca   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE BIE Sean   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       MOSER Moreno   

    Vladimir
       FELLINE Fabio   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       DEBUSSCHERE Jens   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       FORMOLO Davide   *
       KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       BIERMANS Jenthe   
       MOSER Moreno   
       WARLOP Jordi   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    Zaka_fan
       MOSCON Gianni   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VAN BAARLE Dylan   
       LANGEVELD Sebastian   
       OFFREDO Yoann   
       KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   
       STANNARD Ian   
       VANDENBERGH Stijn   
       PHINNEY Taylor   
       CAPIOT Amaury   
       ENGER Sondre Holst   

    You'll notice that Froschi's team only has 8 men; the team only came in during the small hours of this morning, and although I pointed it out to him when I eventually got up, he hasn't got back to me.  His remaining budget is 66 points, so whoever he might have filled those spaces with probably won't make the difference between being a contender and an also-ran. 
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #13 on: February 24, 2018, 13:55 »

    BUGGER!!!! missed this, i bet theres a velogames as well
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #14 on: February 24, 2018, 14:02 »
    Rider Popularity

    126 riders chosen, and exactly half of them are unique picks

    24: VANMARCKE Sep (out of 39 teams, a fairly low take up for a most popular pick)
    20: CAPIOT Amaury, DE BIE Sean, ROELANDTS Jürgen, STYBAR Zdenek, TERPSTRA Niki
    19: NIZZOLO Giacomo
    17: MOSER Moreno, VAN BAARLE Dylan
    13: COQUARD Bryan, VANDENBERGH Stijn
    12: ENGER Sondre Holst, STANNARD Ian
    The eleven most popular picks, plus Stannard but not Enger, make up the Collective Wisdom team.  Even with choosing the more expensive of those two joint 12th in the popularity charts, there is still a spare 328 points in that budget.

    9: MOSCON Gianni
    8: GASPAROTTO Enrico
    7: OSS Daniel
    6: HALVORSEN Kristoffer, HAUSSLER Heinrich, LANGEVELD Sebastian, VAN AERT Wout, VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
    5: ALAPHILIPPE Julian, BRESCHEL Matti, CORT NIELSEN Magnus, DEVENYNS Dries, FELLINE Fabio
    4: BIERMANS Jenthe, EDMONDSON Alexander, THWAITES Scott, VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
    3: BENOOT Tiesj, BETTIOL Alberto, BRAMBILLA Gianluca, CAVENDISH Mark, DE VREESE Laurens, GANNA Filippo, GERTS Floris, OFFREDO Yoann, PHINNEY Taylor, ROOSEN Timo, VAN POPPEL Danny, VERMOTE Julien, WARLOP Jordi
    2: ALLEGAERT Piet, BASKA Erik, BLYTHE Adam, BOECKMANS Kris, DEBUSSCHERE Jens, IMPEY Daryl, KENNAUGH Peter, KÖNIG Leopold, KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav, LAPORTE Christophe, MOLARD Rudy, NAESEN Lawrence, OWEN Logan, ROSA Diego, ROWE Luke, THEUNS Edward, VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael, VAN LERBERGHE Bert, VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter, VLIEGEN Loïc

    Unique picks shown with asterisks above.

    Popularity rankings
    Number in brackets is unique picks on the team.
    1   Russell23   196      (   0   )
    2   LosBrolin   182      (   0   )
    3   Shalgo   180      (   1   )
    3   ThePirate81   180      (   0   )
    5   Leadbelly   176      (   1   )
    6   Hakkie   166      (   0   )
    7   MellowVelo   163      (   0   )
    8   Laarsland   151      (   1   )
    8   Squire   151      (   0   )
    10   AmisVelo   150      (   0   )
    10   DFA123   150      (   1   )
    10   Madrazo   150      (   0   )
    13   GPBlanco   149      (   3   )
    13   RoteLaterne   149      (   3   )
    15   Blues_in_the_Bottle   138      (   0   )
    16   Zaka_fan   137      (   0   )
    17   Kazistuta   136      (   0   )
    18   Comodoro   134      (   2   )
    18   The_Asian   134      (   1   )
    20   TheArt   132      (   0   )
    21   Armchair   129      (   1   )
    21   Search   129      (   2   )
    23   DJW   124      (   1   )
    24   Nathanptz   119      (   1   )
    25   Bbass   118      (   3   )
    26   Fauniera   114      (   1   )
    27   NorthAmericanScum   113      (   1   )
    28   Joelsim   111      (   0   )
    28   Vladimir   111      (   1   )
    30   NairoQ   110      (   1   )
    31   Del1962   102      (   2   )
    32   Froschi   87      (   2   )
    33   So2017   84      (   6   )
    34   Chiron   83      (   5   )
    34   DJSprtsch   83      (   5   )
    36   Scrool07   76      (   1   )
    37   SemirS   75      (   4   )
    38   Salvarani   65      (   3   )
    39   Josedin   26      (   9   )
       CollectiveWisdom   215            

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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #15 on: February 24, 2018, 14:24 »
    Big spends

    The defining choices for each team.  3000 points for 12 riders averages out at 250 points, so these are the riders costing more than twice that.

    Gilbert: So 2017               
                            
    Colbrelli and Stybar: Laarsland               
                            
    Naesen and Vanmarcke: SemirS               
                            
    Alaphilippe, Felline and Vanmarcke: Kazistuta               
    Alaphilippe, Vanmarcke and Stybar: Mellow Velo               
    Alaphilippe and Lutsenko: B'bass               
    Alaphilippe and Stybar: The Asian               
    Alaphilippe alone: Del1962               
                            
    Degenkolb and Vanmarcke: Shalgo               
                            
    Moscon and Benoot: The Art               
    Moscon, Felline and Stybar:   Search               
    Moscon, Vanmarcke and Stybar:   Los Brolin, Rote Laterne            
    Moscon and Vanmarcke: GPBlanco, Leadbelly            
    Moscon and Stybar: DJW, Squire, Zaka fan         
                            
    Benoot and Stybar: Armchair Cyclist               
    Benoot alone: Scrool07               
                            
    Felline, Theuns and Vanmarcke: Joelsim               
    Felline, Vanmarcke and Stybar: Vladimir               
    Felline and Vanmarcke: Comodoro               
                            
    De Buyst and Vanmarcke: DJSprtsch               
                            
    Theuns, Vanmarcke and Stybar: NairoQ               
                            
    Vanmarcke and Stybar: Amis Velo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Hakkie, Madrazo, Russell23, ThePirate81
    Vanmarcke alone: Chiron, DFA123, Fauniera, Froschi, NorthAmericanScum   
                            
    Barbier: Josedin               
                            
    Stybar: Nathanptz   
                         
    Salvarani is the only manager not to have broken the 500 point barrier, but his most expensive pick, Cort Nielsen, comes close at 480pts.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #16 on: February 24, 2018, 15:20 »
    In last year's races

    If we post last year's results for the 20 races that will make up this game, the results will be:

    1   So2017   2057
    2   AmisVelo   1575
    3   Madrazo   1559
    4   Zaka_fan   1445
    5   Hakkie   1404
    6   DJW   1361
    7   Russell23   1346
    8   Laarsland   1327
    9   Scrool07   1305
    10   Armchair   1267
    11   Blues_in_the_Bottle   1250
    12   Nathanptz   1219
    13   SemirS   1139
    14   Froschi   1092
    15   LosBrolin   1075
    16   Leadbelly   1051
    17   ThePirate81   1024
    18   DFA123   1020
    19   RoteLaterne   1001
    20   Shalgo   989
    21   NairoQ   983
    22   MellowVelo   974
    23   GPBlanco   968
    24   Comodoro   939
    25   Search   897
    25   The_Asian   897
    27   Salvarani   896
    28   Vladimir   849
    29   Squire   841
    30   Bbass   791
    31   TheArt   757
    32   Chiron   642
    33   NorthAmericanScum   641
    34   Del1962   639
    35   Joelsim   594
    36   Fauniera   586
    37   DJSprtsch   567
    38   Kazistuta   542
    39   Josedin   417
       CollectiveWisdom   1180

    And that table is why the So 2017 team needs explaining.
    It came into existence partly because I soon became dis-enamoured of my team (very rapidly collated because Joelsim sent in his squad very early, and largely made by looking at popular picks in the season game and trying to identify those who perform in the classics); partly because I was a bit disappointed that unlike last year no-one had built a team around one of the big names of these events, and such teams are always interesting to track; partly because I had some cancelled work yesterday so I had time to do it; partly because having started compiling the "In last year's races" data, I was intrigued to see how far I could take that; and partly because as game compiler I had the opportunity to cheat and put in a second selection.

    So the intention was to calculate the team with the highest possible total score from these races last year.  I suspect that there might be a way of getting Excel to work that out for me (PM me if you could explain), but I only looked at those who generated at least 60% of their 2017 points in these 20 races (having checked that it was not possible to make an improvement by including Kwiatkowski or Van Avermaet) omitting those who had retired, joined teams that will give them few of these rides, or are carrying injuries.  Within those stipulations, I think this is the highest 2017 score team possible (Hakkie: you are usually good at working out best poss permutations), so I submit it as a mathematical selection rather than my second bite at the cherry.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #17 on: February 24, 2018, 18:47 »
    Race 1: Omloop

    Maybe not the start to the Classics season that many hoped for, and not a result that many in our game hoped for or expected, but two teams have reason to be very happy with their pick.  Popular cheap pick Capiot has already paid back half his cost, and had anyone gone for Wisniowski they would have a rider in profit already, which is a valuable asset in this game.

    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael    1st, 180pts for   Blues_in_the_Bottle and Nathanptz
    VANMARCKE Sep   3rd, 92pts for 24 teams
    GILBERT Philippe    5th, 70pts for So2017   
    THEUNS Edward    6th, 62pts for   Joelsim and NairoQ
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert   7th, 54 for   Armchair Cyclist and Blues_in_the_Bottle
    COLBRELLI Sonny   8th, 46 for Laarsland
    THWAITES Scott    24pts for 4 teams
    ROOSEN Timo   18 for 3
    CAPIOT Amaury   16 for 20
    STYBAR Zdenek   11 for 20
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus   8 for 5
    and 28 other finishers gaining 5 points each

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   352 (Valgren, Vanmarcke, Van Lerberghe, Stybar and 3 fivers)
    2   Nathanptz   274 (Valgren, Thwaites, Roosen, Capiot, Stybar and 5 fivers: 10 scorers in one race)
    3   Joelsim   185 (Vanmarcke, Theuns, Capiot and 3 fivers)
    4   NairoQ   177
    5   Russell23   168
    6   Hakkie   158
    7   ThePirate81   142
    8   MellowVelo   141
    9   Comodoro   138
    10   AmisVelo   135
    11   GPBlanco   133
    12   RoteLaterne   132
    13   Madrazo   130
    14   DFA123   125
    15   Kazistuta   123
    15   Shalgo   123
    17   Fauniera   122
    17   SemirS   122
    19   LosBrolin   120
    20   Vladimir   118
    21   Chiron   117
    21   Leadbelly   117
    21   NorthAmericanScum   117
    24   DJSprtsch   112
    25   Armchair   108
    26   Laarsland   100
    27   Froschi   97
    28   So2017   87
    29   Salvarani   65
    30   Zaka_fan   54
    31   TheArt   51
    32   Squire   50
    33   Search   47
    33   The_Asian   47
    35   DJW   37
    35   Scrool07   37
    37   Bbass   36
    38   Del1962   10
    39   Josedin   5
       CollectiveWisdom   146
       Trudgin*   66

    You'll notice Trudgin sneaking in with a late, asterisked entry, which has 5 unique picks, comes bottom of the popularity table, and can't be said to have sought unfair use of the Omloop result.

    All the numbers, and even if I don't publish this link after each race, the spreadsheet file should remain here throughout.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #18 on: February 24, 2018, 19:15 »
    I particularly like the teams of Amis Velo, Leadbelly and Russell23.
    I'm interested to see if Benoot or Moscon is the better pick for this game. Benoot seems to be the safer pick as he always scores the same amout of points. Moscon's limit is the sky but it's also possible he can't get off the ground.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #19 on: February 24, 2018, 21:04 »
    Race 1: Omloop

       CollectiveWisdom   146
       Trudgin*   66

    You'll notice Trudgin sneaking in with a late, asterisked entry, which has 5 unique picks, comes bottom of the popularity table, and can't be said to have sought unfair use of the Omloop result.

    All the numbers, and even if I don't publish this link after each race, the spreadsheet file should remain here throughout.

    Thanks AC, its ok folks i promise not to win  :lol :lol :lol :lol
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #20 on: February 25, 2018, 20:59 »
    Race 2: Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne


    The best sprinters are usually too expensive for the number of options they get in these races, so there will usually be fewer points on a race that ends up as a large group gallop.  Some sprinters are thought durable or adaptable enough to be worth a big spend, so they will get in the frame from time to time.  Like an expensive unique pick in 3rd today, the highest placed selected rider.

    Today's points
    COLBRELLI Sonny   3rd, 72pts for Laarsland and Trudgin*
    LIGTHART Pim   4th, 62pts for Salvarani
    VERMOTE Julien   9th, 30pts for DFA123, NAS and Salvarani
    NAESEN Oliver   22pts for   SemirS
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   11pts for 2 teams
    KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav   9 for 2
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert   8 for 2
    BIERMANS Jenthe   5 for 4
    DEHAES Kenny   5 for 1
    KEISSE Iljo   5 for 1
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   5 for 19

    1   Salvarani   97 (Ligtard, Vermote and Vliegen)
       Trudgin*   86 (Colbrelli, Kuznetsov and Vliegen)
    2   Laarsland   82 (Colbrelli, Nizzolo and Biermans)
    3   DFA123   46
    4   NorthAmericanScum   35
    5   Vladimir   30
    6   SemirS   27
    7   Blues_in_the_Bottle   13
    8   Zaka_fan   9
    9   Armchair   8
    10=   Lots of teams with (mainly) Nizzolo   5
    28=   Teams without Nizzolo   5

    Standings

    Today's top 6 all move up, the top three today enter the top ten, and Laarsland and Salvarani  jump more than 20 places to do so.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   365
    2   Nathanptz   274
    3   Joelsim   190
    4   Laarsland   182
    4   NairoQ   182
    6   Russell23   173
    7   DFA123   171
    8   Salvarani   162
    9   Hakkie   158
    10   NorthAmericanScum   152
    11   SemirS   149
    12   Vladimir   148
    13   ThePirate81   147
    14   MellowVelo   141
    15   AmisVelo   140
    16   Comodoro   138
    17   RoteLaterne   137
    18   GPBlanco   133
    19   Madrazo   130
    20   Kazistuta   128
    20   Shalgo   128
    22   LosBrolin   125
    23   Leadbelly   122
    23   Fauniera   122
    25   Chiron   117
    26   Armchair   116
    27   DJSprtsch   112
    28   Froschi   97
    29   So2017   87
    30   Zaka_fan   63
    31   TheArt   56
    32   Squire   55
    33   Search   52
    33   The_Asian   52
    35   DJW   42
    36   Bbass   41
    37   Scrool07   37
    38   Del1962   15
    39   Josedin   10
       CollectiveWisdom   151
       Trudgin*   152

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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #21 on: February 25, 2018, 23:01 »

    I'm not even here legally... but it could be my best performance ever. :o
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #22 on: February 27, 2018, 19:44 »
    Only just realised Le Samyn isn't in this, missed out on 99 points  :(
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #23 on: February 27, 2018, 20:24 »
    Only just realised Le Samyn isn't in this, missed out on 99 points  :(

    I'm the one who decided that it's not included, and through my unique pick, Gaudin, paired with the popular Terpstra,  I'm the one who missed out most.

    It would have given us:
    1   Armchair   135
    2   So2017   128
    3   Laarsland   104
    4   DJW   99
    5   Nathanptz   95
    5   Russell23   95
    5   GPBlanco   95
    5   Shalgo   95
    5   The_Asian   95
    5   Bbass   95
    11   Hakkie   90
    11   RoteLaterne   90
    11   Zaka_fan   90
    14   AmisVelo   85
    14   LosBrolin   85
    14   Leadbelly   85
    17   Madrazo   80
    17   Froschi   80
    17   Scrool07   80
    17   Del1962   80
    21   ThePirate81   15
    21   MellowVelo   15
    21   Comodoro   15
    21   Kazistuta   15
    21   TheArt   15
    21   Squire   15
    21   Search   15
    28   Joelsim   10
    29   NairoQ   9
    29   SemirS   9
    31   Josedin   8
    32   Blues_in_the_Bottle   5
    32   Salvarani   5
    34   DFA123   0
    34   NorthAmericanScum   0
    34   Vladimir   0
    34   Fauniera   0
    34   Chiron   0
    34   DJSprtsch   0
       CollectiveWisdom   95

    And I would have been up to 5th.  But it doesn't count.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #24 on: February 27, 2018, 22:11 »
    What about me AC :)
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #25 on: March 01, 2018, 10:09 »
    What about me AC :)

    Sorry: you would have got nothing, which is what everyone did get.
    You are one of the winners for that race, by not losing out.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #26 on: March 03, 2018, 15:44 »
    Having missed out on Le Samyn, I think my team is going to be top of the table for Strade Bianche.  I only have a top 11 confirmed, but of those only Benoot (3 teams), Van Aert (6 teams) and Stybar (20) are selected in the game, and I am the only one of the Bennot teams with a second high scorer (Stybar).  Scrool07 and The Art also have Benoot, Squire and DFA123 combine Van Aert and Stybar.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #27 on: March 03, 2018, 19:32 »
    Race 3: Strade Bianche

    There are races in this series, mainly when we get to the Ardennes, that suit riders who get a lot of CQ points in GTs and other stage races: that's at least part of the reason why only 3 of the top ten, and 7 of the first twenty finishers, were selected.  We might collectively need other reasons for no-one going for the likes of Power and Serry.

    BENOOT Tiesj   1st, 180pts for Armchair Cyclist, Scrool07 and The Art   
    VAN AERT Wout    3rd, 92pts for  6 teams
    STYBAR Zdenek  7th,   54 pts for 20 teams
    OSS Daniel    12th, 27 pts for 7 teams
    DE TIER Floris   24pts for Chiron
    MOSCON Gianni   22pts, 9 teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   14, 1
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   8, 1
    VERMOTE Julien   6, 3
    And for five pointers, we have 3 unique picks (GILBERT Philippe, KEISSE Iljo, LUTSENKO Alexey) and our most popular pick, on 24 teams, VANMARCKE Sep.

    1   Armchair   234 (Benoot and Stybar)
    2   TheArt   202 (Benoot and Moscon)
    3   Scrool07   180 (Benoot)
    4   Squire   168 (Van Aert, Stybar, Moscon)
    5   Chiron   162 (Van Aert, Oss, De Tier and Amador)
    6   DFA123   157  (Van Aert, Stybar, Vermote and Vanmarcke)
    7   NorthAmericanScum   130
    8   Fauniera, Josedin   97
    10   Russell23   86
    11   Laarsland, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, RoteLaterne   81
    15   DJW, Search, Zaka_fan   76
    18   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Hakkie, Madrazo, MellowVelo, NairoQ, ThePirate81, Vladimir   59
    26   GPBlanco, The_Asian   54
    28   Comodoro   32
    29   Leadbelly, Trudgin*   27
    30   DJSprtsch   13
    31   Salvarani   6
    32   Bbass, Froschi, Joelsim, Kazistuta, SemirS, Shalgo, So2017   5
    39   Del1962   0
       CollectiveWisdom   59

    Standings
    At this early stage perhaps it is not large moves (the top 5 on the day all move by 19 or more places) that are surprising, but that the top two hold onto their places.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   424
    2   Nathanptz   355
    3   Armchair   350
    4   DFA123   328
    5   NorthAmericanScum   282
    6   Chiron   279
    7   Laarsland   263
    8   Russell23   259
    9   TheArt   258
    10   NairoQ   241
    11   Squire   223
    12   Fauniera   219
    13   RoteLaterne   218
    14   Scrool07   217
    14   Hakkie   217
    16   Vladimir   207
    17   LosBrolin   206
    17   ThePirate81   206
    19   MellowVelo   200
    20   AmisVelo   199
    21   Joelsim   195
    22   Madrazo   189
    23   GPBlanco   187
    24   Comodoro   170
    25   Salvarani   168
    26   SemirS   154
    27   Leadbelly   149
    28   Zaka_fan   139
    29   Kazistuta   133
    29   Shalgo   133
    31   Search   128
    32   DJSprtsch   125
    33   DJW   118
    34   Josedin   107
    35   The_Asian   106
    36   Froschi   102
    37   So2017   92
    38   Bbass   46
    39   Del1962   15
       CollectiveWisdom   210
       Trudgin   179

    And now I rue even more the non-counting status of Le Samyn: I would have been top.  I'll stop going on about it now.

    Tomorrow is the GP Industria & Artigianato, which could potentially giv a fair few points to a small number of teams, but which I am fairly sure will earn any popular picks nothing.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #28 on: March 04, 2018, 18:15 »
    GP Industria & Artigianato  (GP Larciano if you prefer)

    More of an impact on the game than I expected, in that the highest placed rider who was selected is one of the more popular picks.
    Less of an impact than I expected in that only 2 of the top 30 (ie, only 2 riders who get CQ points) were selected.

    DE BIE Sean 4th, 62pts for 20 teams
    IMPEY Daryl 8th, 36pts for 2 teams

    1   ThePirate81   98 (De Bie and Impey)
    2=   Nineteen other teams with De Bie    62
    21   Joelsim   36 (Impey)
    22=   Nineteen teams with neither scorer   0
       CollectiveWisdom   62

    Standings

    Pretty straightforward: if you have De Bie or Impey, you moved up, if not, you move down.  Only Exceptions to this are the top 4, who all have De Bie, and the bottom team, who doesn't.  Pirate81's reward for having both selected riders is a nine place jump and a place in the top ten.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   486
    2   Nathanptz   417
    3   Armchair   412
    4   DFA123   328
    5   Laarsland   325
    6   Russell23   321
    7   TheArt   320
    8   ThePirate81   304
    9   Squire   285
    10   NorthAmericanScum   282
    11   Chiron   279
    12   LosBrolin   268
    13   MellowVelo   262
    14   AmisVelo   261
    15   GPBlanco   249
    16   NairoQ   241
    17   Comodoro   232
    18   Joelsim   231
    19   Salvarani   230
    20   Fauniera   219
    21   RoteLaterne   218
    22   Hakkie   217
    22   Scrool07   217
    24   Leadbelly   211
    25   Vladimir   207
    26   Kazistuta   195
    26   Shalgo   195
    28   Search   190
    29   Madrazo   189
    30   The_Asian   168
    31   SemirS   154
    32   Zaka_fan   139
    33   DJSprtsch   125
    34   DJW   118
    35   Bbass   108
    36   Josedin   107
    37   Froschi   102
    38   So2017   92
    39   Del1962   15
       CollectiveWisdom   272
       Trudgin   179

    Race 5 is Ronde van Drenthe next Sunday.
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    Re: 2018 Spring Classics CQ game
    « Reply #29 on: March 11, 2018, 18:26 »
    Race 5: Ronde van Drenthe

    Most riders were busy in stage races this week, so it was only some of the fringe selections who took points today.

    SISR Frantisek   1st, 140 points for So 2017
    GERTS Floris   7th, 42pts for Comodoro, Madrazo and Nathanptz
    VERMELTFOORT Coen   11th, 22pts for Josedin
    LIGTHART Pim   12th, 18pts for Salvarani
    CAPIOT Amaury   13th, 15pts for 20 teams
    WARLOP Jordi   11pts, 3 teams
    DE BACKER Bert   7   1
    ALLEGAERT Piet   5   2
    DEHAES Kenny   5   1


    Today suggests that maybe there is something to be learned from who scored a large proportion of their points in these races last year:

    1   So2017   145 (Sisr and Allegaert)
    2=   Nathanptz, Comodoro   57 (Gerts and Capiot)
    4   Madrazo   42 (Gerts)
    5=   Squire, Joelsim   26
    7=   Search, Josedin   22
    9   The_Asian   20
    10   Salvarani   18
    11=   Fourteen teams with Capiot   15
    25   Vladimir   11
    26   AmisVelo   5
    27   Fourteen other teams   0
       CollectiveWisdom   15

    Standings


    The top three hold their places, although the lead has been reduced from 69 points to just 12, but just behind them Laarsland, Russell23 and The Art each move up one at the expense of Capiot-less DFA123.  Comodoro manages a 7 place rise to appear in the top ten, and So 2017 overtakes half the field to sit mid-table.

    1   Blues_in_the_Bottle   486
    2   Nathanptz   474
    3   Armchair   427
    4   Laarsland   340
    5   Russell23   336
    6   TheArt   335
    7   DFA123   328
    8   ThePirate81   319
    9   Squire   311
    10   Comodoro   289
    11   NorthAmericanScum   282
    12   Chiron   279
    13   MellowVelo   277
    14   LosBrolin   268
    15   AmisVelo   266
    16   GPBlanco   264
    17   Joelsim   257
    18   Salvarani   248
    19   NairoQ   241
    20   So2017   237
    21   RoteLaterne   233
    22   Hakkie   232
    23   Madrazo   231
    24   Fauniera   219
    25   Vladimir   218
    26   Scrool07   217
    27   Search   212
    28   Leadbelly   211
    29   Kazistuta   210
    29   Shalgo   210
    31   The_Asian   188
    32   Zaka_fan   154
    32   SemirS   154
    34   DJW   133
    35   Josedin   129
    36   DJSprtsch   125
    37   Bbass   123
    38   Froschi   102
    39   Del1962   15
       CollectiveWisdom   287
       Trudgin*   179

    I'll be sat in front of the spreadsheet quite a lot over the next week: Nokere Koerse on Wednesday, Handzame on Friday, then the first of the really big scoring races, Milan-San Remo on Saturday and back to minor points for GP de Denain on Sunday.
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