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Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
« Reply #390 on: December 14, 2018, 08:58 »
Let's get out the ol' crystal ball.

The money they have currently will run out after the first half of the season. They're gambling on these better riders getting a big win or two early in the season to flush out a sponsor or two who'll provide the rest of the money needed to complete the season.

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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #391 on: December 15, 2018, 09:07 »
    Let's get out the ol' crystal ball.

    The money they have currently will run out after the first half of the season. They're gambling on these better riders getting a big win or two early in the season to flush out a sponsor or two who'll provide the rest of the money needed to complete the season.
    If that's the case, it's not unlikely that they'll have to fold in May ... :S
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #392 on: December 19, 2018, 21:17 »
    Well, finally Ivan Sosa confirmed by #sky for next season.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #393 on: December 19, 2018, 21:30 »
    Well, finally Ivan Sosa confirmed by #sky for next season.

    Trek have sent him out to the feeder team for a year.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #394 on: December 20, 2018, 08:23 »
    Trek have sent him out to the feeder team for a year.
    Haha! :lol
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #395 on: December 20, 2018, 08:26 »
    another good signing there

    #bora Aleksejs Saramotins --> #interpro Interpro Stradalli Cycling

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BrmBxFEF8Mv/

    he is a real hardman though, best suited to the tough classics, so hard to say how Interpro's racing calendar will fit him - but in such a young team, it can never hurt to have an experienced guy like him, I guess.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #396 on: December 22, 2018, 08:17 »
    #torku Torku Sekerspor has survived all kind of rumblings over the years, but now the story comes to an end. Raileanu has found a new home in Malaysia.

    #torku Cristian Raileanu --> #sapura Team Sapura Cycling

    https://twitter.com/ErmanOner/status/1075739324954673154
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #397 on: December 23, 2018, 09:30 »
    Gaviria leaving should make room for another rider at Quickstep by the way. Maybe a chance for Thwaites, van Asbroeck, or some other classics guy without a deal.

    looks like that spot went to Capecchi now

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BrsfmQfAwjE/

    edit: yep, official confirmation: http://www.quickstepfloorscycling.com/en/news/detail/eros-capecchi-happy-to-continue-with-the-wolfpack/3882
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #399 on: December 24, 2018, 12:26 »
    And they've already announced a replacement:
    Zoidl #felbermayr --> #ccc

    https://twitter.com/CCCProTeam/status/1077141896651141121
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #400 on: December 24, 2018, 17:54 »
    looks like that spot went to Capecchi now

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BrsfmQfAwjE/

    edit: yep, official confirmation: http://www.quickstepfloorscycling.com/en/news/detail/eros-capecchi-happy-to-continue-with-the-wolfpack/3882


    I spoke to Thwaites a couple of days ago. He has just had his place on the 8 man GB Olympic Podium road squad confirmed for another year, and returned from a training camp with prospective  GB riders for the 2019 Road Worlds. Bizarrely, he has no offers from any of the 43 teams in the top 2 divisions. That’s around 950 contracts, half of which will have been concluded in the last 6 months.
    He seemed to recognise and accept that the very high levels of nationalism in the pro peloton meant that British domestiques, even those with strong performances at the sharp end of the Classics were somewhere between back of the queue and not in the queue.
    There have been very substantial investments in UK sport over the last 15 years, of which cycling has been a major beneficiary. This has allowed the development of programs from talent identification through to elite performance and in turn, significant improvements in performance across all professional levels are evident. However, in no way is this reflected in the number of British pros in the top 2 divisions, where  riders only hold 4% of World Tour and 0.4% of Pro Conti contracts. In the current environment, until such time as genuinely British sponsors are found to fund British WT or PC teams, who exhibit similar nationalistic tendencies to the vast majority of the 43 WT and PC teams, then British pros, particularly domestiques, will suffer from what it says on their passport and continue to miss out on the opportunity to ride at the higher levels, even though their performances may merit it.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #401 on: December 27, 2018, 10:40 »
    http://rusvelo.pro/archive-en/gazprom-rusvelo-unveil-team-roster-for-2019/

    With Stash, Kurbatov and Vorobyev three former recruits get back on board at #gazprom Gazprom Rusvelo, while with Firsanov, Foliforov, Lagutin, Maikin and Trusov some fairly big names are shown the door.

    Menchov and Petrov join the team as DS for 2019.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #402 on: December 27, 2018, 11:15 »
    Menchov and Petrov join the team as DS for 2019.
    This may become a problem - Menchov is suspended for life, and that very much includes a DS role.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #403 on: December 27, 2018, 11:23 »
    Menchov?! No, he "only" got a post-career two year ban I think, and lost some results.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #404 on: December 27, 2018, 11:30 »
    Menchov?! No, he "only" got a post-career two year ban I think, and lost some results.
    My bad ...

    Still, I'm anything but sure that he's going to be the best role model. ;)
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    « Reply #405 on: December 28, 2018, 19:21 »
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #406 on: December 29, 2018, 12:55 »
    https://twitter.com/Illuminatebike/status/1078743222971785217

    #androni Rodolfo Torres --> #illuminate Team Illuminate

    he had a contract with Androni for 2019 but apparently Savio paid him off.

    Not sure if any of that is left though after buying the funky christmas decoration :D
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #408 on: January 03, 2019, 11:44 »

    I spoke to Thwaites a couple of days ago. He has just had his place on the 8 man GB Olympic Podium road squad confirmed for another year, and returned from a training camp with prospective  GB riders for the 2019 Road Worlds. Bizarrely, he has no offers from any of the 43 teams in the top 2 divisions. That’s around 950 contracts, half of which will have been concluded in the last 6 months.
    He seemed to recognise and accept that the very high levels of nationalism in the pro peloton meant that British domestiques, even those with strong performances at the sharp end of the Classics were somewhere between back of the queue and not in the queue.
    There have been very substantial investments in UK sport over the last 15 years, of which cycling has been a major beneficiary. This has allowed the development of programs from talent identification through to elite performance and in turn, significant improvements in performance across all professional levels are evident. However, in no way is this reflected in the number of British pros in the top 2 divisions, where  riders only hold 4% of World Tour and 0.4% of Pro Conti contracts. In the current environment, until such time as genuinely British sponsors are found to fund British WT or PC teams, who exhibit similar nationalistic tendencies to the vast majority of the 43 WT and PC teams, then British pros, particularly domestiques, will suffer from what it says on their passport and continue to miss out on the opportunity to ride at the higher levels, even though their performances may merit it.

    I sympathize with Scott Thwaites the individual but I don't agree. British riders taken as a whole will always get noticed because of a higher profile in media than anyone, with the major races in the country now and the investments in juniors and under 23s with ten+ uk cyclists in major races like Valle d'Aosta etc. In addition the support structure with the WT teams that like english-speaking riders ie EF Education, SKY, Michelton, Dimension Data, Trek (and pct teams too) and this combined equals more chances and second chances to uk cyclists compared to cyclists from countries with no wt or pct teams.

    Aleksejs Saramotins is a similar kind of rider with similar results and could not find a team either. It's hard for everyone and it sucks but it's also more complicated than national interest. In the big picture see an unknown like Tanfield get a deal with Katusha with one minor result and mediocre guys like Blythe, Dowsett, Kennaugh continue to find contracts. And then at the opposite side the shock that Katusha actually signed a russian out of the significant number of talented russian guys or how very few polish cyclists were signed by the new CCC who instead have chosen guys like Ten Dam and Geschke.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #409 on: January 03, 2019, 15:05 »
    talking about CCC... #ccc Jonas Koch is the final rider to get the nod

    https://twitter.com/CCCProTeam/status/1080797204674052097

    that still leaves guys like #astana Grivko (who would have been a great asset for GvA on the cobbles) without a team
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #410 on: January 04, 2019, 00:55 »
    #bmc Nicolas Roche
    #mitchelton Rob Power
    --> #sunweb Team Sunweb

    http://teamsunweb.com/wt-men-signings/

    Wow, wow, wow, WOW! Nico Roche! Please, please, please, as support for Dumoulin in the GTs! Man, what a combo that could be - a rider with Nico's chops riding for a Dumoulin effort? GREATNESS!
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #411 on: January 04, 2019, 12:45 »
    talking about CCC... #ccc Jonas Koch is the final rider to get the nod

    Originally he had already signed an agreement with Team Heizomat for 2019 btw - so after Riccardo Zoidl (Team Felbermayr Simplon Wels), he is the second rider they took out of a running contract.

    I mean, I'm happy for them, both are probably more likely WT material than continental, but CCC should really try to get their stuff sorted on time next year... those smaller teams somehow need to have a chance to build up for a season as well.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #412 on: January 05, 2019, 19:20 »
    I'll better move this over here...

    Well, there are two people who picked Manuel Bongiorno even though he retired in 2017. Perhaps they're banking on a comeback.

    he was rumored to join the new Wilier.

    I just checked again, and #wilier Simone Velasco posted a photo of "The Squad" on Instagram


    https://www.instagram.com/p/BriEpAeBdPL/

    commented by Luca Scinto: "(gt) I'm happy. This is really the group I wanted"

    Apart from those listed on PCS as signed for Tharcor already (Raggio, Fortunato, Visconti, Pacioni, Zardini, Marchetti, Bevilacqua), on the picture are

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    « Reply #413 on: January 05, 2019, 19:22 »
    I'll better move this over here...

    I just checked again, and #wilier Simone Velasco posted a photo of "The Squad" on Instagram


    https://www.instagram.com/p/BriEpAeBdPL/

    commented by Luca Scinto: "(gt) I'm happy. This is really the group I wanted"

    Apart from those listed on PCS as signed for Tharcor already (Raggio, Fortunato, Visconti, Pacioni, Zardini, Marchetti, Bevilacqua), on the picture are

    Manuel Bongiorno
    Umberto Marengo
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    I am forwarding this to Heather
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #414 on: January 05, 2019, 19:23 »
    Originally he had already signed an agreement with Team Heizomat for 2019 btw - so after Riccardo Zoidl (Team Felbermayr Simplon Wels), he is the second rider they took out of a running contract.

    I mean, I'm happy for them, both are probably more likely WT material than continental, but CCC should really try to get their stuff sorted on time next year... those smaller teams somehow need to have a chance to build up for a season as well.

    CCC have an incredibly poor team, I'm worried for them.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2018-19
    « Reply #415 on: January 05, 2019, 19:39 »
    I am forwarding this to Heather

    Ok, now i saw this and thought it was just because Visco and Bongio ride together everyday...... but, he has kept up his doping checks, he paid for the ADAMs malarkey himself for years.  hes desperate to get back  :party

    I'm away to ask   :D :D :D :D
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    « Reply #416 on: January 06, 2019, 02:07 »
    Sunday is the big reveal.... 👍🤫
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