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The very unoffical 2018 winter olympics thread
« on: February 08, 2018, 20:48 »
Since we have a doping in XC skiing thread I think it is allowed to talk skiing in here?

The winter olympics are about to start and as you all might have noticed I am even more of a skiing fanatic, and this year *no will dominate in all disciplines ( :angel).  To sneak in a little known cycling related factoid here:

While other teams are typically sponsored by large equipment makers that supply their gear, the Norwegian alpine skiing, speed skating and ski jumping teams get their suits from a small manufacturer that doesn't even put their brand name on the clothes. Statements by other team's athletes indicate that these are seen as the best there is (*at downhill skier Hannes Reichelt stated that if he could get a Norwegian speed suit he would take it.)

This business is run by the family of former #joker cyclist and speed skating *no champion Reidar Borgersen, who retired from competition as recently as 2 years ago,  but still has a role with #joker AFAIK. Borgersen himself is the technology development manager, but it is obviously his dad's company he is working for. The company has also previously supplied cycling clothes, including stuff used by Thor Hushovd in the olympics. Officially, they care much more about athletes winning gold medals than making money, but they're still in business - so it may not be so bad.  :)

Anyway, let's see what this cyclist-run family business can do against the likes of Adidas, Nike and their skiing-related daughter brands.

The athletes using their clothing includes alpine skiers Aksel Lund Svindal, Kjetil Jansrud, Henrik Kristoffersen, ski jumper Daniel-André Tande, speed skater Håvard Holmefjord Lorentzen. Let's see what they can do:)

This news is of course leaked to stir a debate and steal some focus, just like team sky's time trial equipment last year. I think that was developed in Norway too.  :shh
 
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    Flo will be around sometime to tell us how good the Dutchies are at speed skating  :)
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    And here's a supporter - he is a long way beind Rogla when it comes to the technique, but he's doin it basically right:

    https://twitter.com/AndreGreipel/status/962092661451771904
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    Flo will be around sometime to tell us how good the Dutchies are at speed skating  :)

    first chance tomorrow ;)

    Looking forward to the coming two weeks :)
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    Major races coming up ... in the middle of the night, men's downhill skiing (if not too much wind...). In the early morning hours, men's 30 km X-C skiathlon (15 km classic+15 km skating).

    I am quite passionate about the downhill, but I am not getting up at 3:00 AM CET to watch. The course is supposedly not much like the classic alpine DH races in Kitzbuhel, Wengen or the Kandahar of Garmixh Partenchirchen. There are a few jumps. but it is nothing too extreme, and then the course lacks high-speed (as in more than 150 km/h) straightlining sections. It is mostly turns, turns, turns and this may favor the technically smoother skiers over the daredevils and "downhill bullets".
    *** Vincent Kriechmayr *at
    ** Peter Fill *it, Kjetil Jansrud *no
    *  Aksel Lund Svindal *no , Beat Feuz *ch , Hannes Reichelt *at

    For the men's 30 km (early in the morning, starts 7:00 CET) , it is going to be a race to get rid of *no Johannes Høstflot Klæbo. Think of it as the classics specialists trying to get rid of Kittel on a grand tour stage, except this sprinter climbs a lot better and won the 30 km race at Lillehammer earlier this year. However, the parcours at PyeongChang is rather hilly, and *se Charlott Kalla showed how to do it today, with an uphill punch no-one could follow. I expect a repeat performance tomorrow, and it may come from Klæbo himself (he must realize he will not be allowed to hang around at the back of the bunch on the final lap), but I more likely from *ch Dario Cologna or *no Martin Johnsrud Sundby.
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    Downhill cancelled (for the day I believe).

    https://twitter.com/Kjansrud/status/962466007498420224
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    The winter olympics are about to start and as you all might have noticed I am even more of a skiing fanatic, and this year *no will dominate in all disciplines ( :angel).
    You should be waking up to a rather nice surprise then.  :cool


    Actually, I'm totally confused by all the time-zone differences. Maybe you've already watched it. Either way, it was quite a performance in the skiathlon!
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    Watching the women's half-pipe right now. Maybe I'm just getting too old, or maybe it's the lighting and the camera angles, but the athletes all look to me as if they're only 12 to 15-years-old. 
    :wut

    I also don't understand why I haven't seen any national colors being worn by any of the snowboarders across various events. What's the deal with that? I suppose the same could be said for figure skating too, but I don't understand it in the context of what the Olympics are supposed to be. It gets even more confusing when you have American athletes who are of Asian descent. I've no idea which country is being represented by sight alone.

    Not that it really matters all that much, I just find it curious.


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    Don't underestimate the weight of snowboard has tons of generation-X individualism heritage.
    They don't care about nations and stuff, dude, their sport is rad so they do things they way they[1] like.

    However, I used to think a single 360 was great, while now, these guys to back to back 1160s. Yikes! I would get dizzy :S
    They're amazing, I am awestruck - I keep thinking getting this good must have cost a few really bad falls.
     1. including their extended self, known as "big snowboard and sportswear industry sponsors"
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    And now, this guy ... rejuvenated XC skiing's classic skiing technique (tons of controversy to follow, rejuvenating classic sounds = pure paganism to some). Youngest XC skiing olympic gold winner ever. There will be more to come.

    Johannes Høsflot Klæbo *no



    PS: why isn't there a sprint event in cyclocross? (all the action is right after the start anyway  :)
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    Klæbos special technique is dubbed Klæbo-klyvet in Norwegian (the Klæbo climb). Here's how it all started? Turns out, Forrest Gump might have been involved?

    Løp Klæbo, Løp! (Run Klæbo, Run!)

    https://twitter.com/tomsoot/status/963843988280283137

    EDIT: There is a video link in the tweet. Try reload if it does not work.
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    I guess you need to be Norwegian to be a Klaebo fan... so let's move the topic to something different ;)

    #sky Team Sky's much discussed 2017 Tour de France ITT suit found a place in skeleton...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/winter-olympics/2018/02/14/team-gb-defend-winter-olympics-skeleton-suits-amid-questions/

    ...and may even bring Team GB some medals. The men's competition (where Parsons - who never won anything so far - was fastest on each of the first two training days) starts tonight
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    HArd to find time to watch cycling: 3-2-1 today for *no,  thabest day in Olympics ever.
    3 gold medals:    men's downhill skiing (Svindal), womens 10 km X-C skiing (Haga), men's 20 km biathlon (Thingnæs Bø)
    2 silver medals:   men's downhill skiing (Jansrud), women's giant slalom (Mowinckel) 
    1 bronze:  (Bjørgen)

    This includes Norway's first ever downhill win in the olympics, and the best result for a woman in alpine skiing in  ... 82 years!

    And then, to come back to cycling related perspective: former #joker cyclist Reidar Borgersen's family business that produce tailor-made speed suits have been used for winning at least 3 medals today (all *no alpine skiers) + 1 for Sverre Lunde Pedersen in speed skating.

    That puts team Sky's suits into perspective :) 

     
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    That puts team Sky's suits into perspective :)

    well, to be fair though, Svindal and Jansrud at least were quite good before wearing those suits already ;)

    But yeah, good day for Norway, a stellar performance from Haga that was. For Boe to win two or three things had to come together, but well, who cares.

    I guess Florry needs to come up with some information what the heck happened there with Sven Kramer again though...
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    not bad, Miss Ledecká, not bad...  :cool

    Afraid of Stina today, T-72, or are you confident that Haga will be able decide the race in the 3rd leg?
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    Didn't know she was a Yank,  luckily her dad was a Brit :cool
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    not bad, Miss Ledecká, not bad...  :cool

    Afraid of Stina today, T-72, or are you confident that Haga will be able decide the race in the 3rd leg?

    Sorry for being late, but I was more afraid of Charlotte Kalla. The 2nd leg was obviously the most unbalanced one today. Astrid Uhrenholdt Jacobsen is actually a personal favorite of mine, but she just recently recovered from illness and did not have a good day, trying to follow the Russian girl but suddenly collapsing on the second lap.
    No offense to Stina, she is also a very good skier with a lethal sprint but Marit Bjørgen is also a formidable athlete, so the final stage could always (up to 50m from the line) go either way, it was very well balanced.

    With a resurgent Kalla and Johaug out of the equation, women’s x-c races are much more interesting to watch. Norwegians love this kind of finish. Maybe that’s why all our best cyclists are sprinters :)

    Anyway it was one of the best races in a long time!
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    Flo will be around sometime to tell us how good the Dutchies are at speed skating  :)

    I miss her and I think she must come here tell us soon  :shh


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     :hi  :cool  :shh  :angel

    (First gold medal for Bergen in the winter olympics AFAIK, not counting Bergen-op-zoom  :D)
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    she'll be back for the men's team pursuit on Wednesday when *nl faces *no again in the semis, no worries... :D
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    Only just noticed this thread :cool

    Of course, the best Dutch medal was Esmee Visser's gold on the 5000m, out of nowhere, from the same year as me :cool she did not even know that gold earned her 25,000 euros ;)
    I also liked Nuis' win on the men's 1500m, he is a very nice dude :)
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    she'll be back for the men's team pursuit on Wednesday when *nl faces *no again in the semis, no worries... :D

    or not :D. Very surprising gold medal for Norway, especially in that manner
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    Even in Norway people are starting to shake their head now. We have never had such a successful olympics squad before. Some athletes have succeeded in breaking barriers just in time when those that we banked upon actually are failing. This kind of barriers of course can be physical, it is about being in peak form at the right time, but maybe just as often or more often - "it's between the ears" as we say here.
    The alpine skiers: Ragnhild Mowinckel, Aksel Lund Svindal didn't look like sure picks before the games. The speed skaters - sure they'll be up there, but winning? No one thought about it, except Flo when she was having nigtmares.  :D Cross country skiers - Ragnhild Haga and Simen Hegstad Krüger, sure - they were good before, a medal possible, but 4 gold medals and a silver? Don't think anyone saw that coming.
    Aksel Lund Svindal said things were now going so good that everyone's affected by it, the squad is surfing on a good vibe and some things previously not thought possible may well be in this climate. I am looking forward to:
    Speed skating 1000 m men
    Men's slalom (Kristoffersen), Women's alpine combination (Mowinckel again?)
    Men's 50 km xc skiing (although *kz Poltoranin is sky high favorite), Women's 30km

    --- a few more medals for Norway here and Peking in 4 years is going to be a guaranteed turn for the worse! :)
     
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    Both wins came in overtime, and next up (played tomorrow) is none other than ...
    *ca Canada. Good luck with that - the bronze medal game is the most likely outcome. But even that is a sensation.

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    This is how dumb Americans are. :wut

    From Seattle, Washington.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/both-have-crosses-so-norwegian-flag-mistaken-for-confederate-flag/

    ‘Suddenly there is a Confederate flag flying’ in Seattle’s Greenwood area – well, not quite

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    In our political climate, a Norwegian flag, with its blue-and-white cross, was mistaken for a Confederate flag. Questions ensued in the Greenwood neighborhood.

    A story about the times we live in, and assumptions we can make in our current political climate.

    The news tip a few days ago said:

    “Hi. Suddenly there is a Confederate flag flying in front of a house in my Greenwood neighborhood. It is at the north-east corner of 92nd and Palatine, just a block west of 92nd and Greenwood Ave N. I would love to know what this ‘means’ … but of course don’t want to knock on their door. Maybe others in the area are flying the flag? Maybe it’s a story? Thank you.”

    It was from Rebecca Morris, who is an author of The New York Times best-seller true-crime books.
     :S
    So, of course, we drove to that corner.

    There was no wind, and on a flagpole there was what obviously was the U.S. flag at the top, and below, a red flag with blue stripes.

    Simply hanging down, not spread out, you could make some assumptions that it was the star-filled “Southern cross” of the Confederacy.

    Darold Norman Stangeland lives at the corner house.

    “That’s a Norwegian flag,” he says. “It’s been up there since the start of the Olympics.” 
    :D
     
    The Norwegian flag has a red background, with an off-center white-and-blue cross.

    Norway, so far, has won 13 gold, 11 silver and nine bronze medals at the Pyeongchang 2018 Olympic Winter Games, totally dominating the event.

    “I’m a proud Norwegian-American. My parents emigrated here in the mid-1950s. He skippered tugboats,” Stangeland says.



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    Ledecka is a superstar, who said dreams dont come true :cool :cool

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    More of a snowboarder. Check
    Never been on a podium. Check
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    I won?  No not me? It must be a mistake?
    Brilliant

    Now a double gold winner.
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