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2018 Tour de France CQ game
« on: June 28, 2018, 00:23 »
July is getting near, so it must be time to think about this again.  Last year it all came down to being decided by 7th place in the sprint on the Champs Elysees: what can you do to make it even closer this time around?

Pick eight riders, and watch them get points, or not, for stage finishes, GC ranking, Yellow Jersey wearing, KoM and Sprint category placement, or simply for reaching Paris.

Scores will be posted after each stage (real life permitting).

Team of exactly eight riders (a change from last year, reflecting the UCI rule change)   If you pick someone who is not riding, I'll replace him with the next cheapest of his team, or the next cheapest in the race if there is not one in his team. (but if you get your entry in in good time, I'll do my best to alert you to it rather than do that)

Budget    Budget will be 4000 points, the same as before, so more points per rider than previously.  If you are over budget, I'll take out the cheapest rider who can be replaced with a cheaper member of his team that will bring you into budget, or the next cheapest in the race if there is not one in his team (first in alphabetical order if two or more meet that definition) (but see note above about my willingness to help if you don't leave it too late).

Price of riders
CQ score for 12 months to 24th June, for which the update file that CQ released the following day will be considered definitive. 
There is a dropbox spreadsheet of riders likely to participate and their prices for the game, and a facility for checking the team total.

Submitting your team
By personal message to me.

Please send the team with names formatted as per CQ. (Surname[space]Forename and nothing else: Spanish/Portuguese names need particular care, as do accents or other diacritics) Please do not include riders' teams and prices in your PM.  It makes an enormous difference to the efficiency of adding teams.  If you use the dropbox spreadsheet it will be a simple copy and paste job for me.


I have lodged my team with the first person to submit a team.


Deadline
When they start pedalling in Noirmoutier, at 11:00 local time on 7 July.

Scoring
Points issued according to the points tables of CQ (column GT1).  Note there are no points issued for the young rider category. As CQ seems rather unstable at present, it is also on the Team selector spreadsheet.

Entries (to be updated once a day unless real life interferes.  If your name is absent 24 hours after you send in your team, get on my case)
As of 23:30 (BST) Friday 6th:About 11 hours to go
AmisVelo
Armchair_Cyclist
BicycleBoy
BikeRacer33
BluesInTheBottle
Bminchow
Carlo_Algatrensig
Comodoro
Del1962
Evans_is_the_Best
Fauniera
Googolplex
Gotland
GPBlanco
Hakkie2
JustSomeGuy
Kazistuta
Koronin
Leadbelly
LosBrolin
Mellow_Velo
Minessa
Nathanptz
NorthAmericanScum
Rote_Laterne
Ruvu75
SafeBet
Salvarani
Scrool07
Search
Shalgo
SportingNonsense
Squire
ThePirate81
Tigerion
TotalPackage
Vladimir
Yellow_Knight

Good luck to all.
(Edited for change of price data)
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 07:51 »
    Good news: all teams bar one are now confirmed, and the final one (Sky) seems fixed according to speculation.

    Bad news: CQ didn't download the update yesterday (it normally goes up late afternoon on a Monday) to establish the prices, and late last night and this morning I was getting a "SQL Server does not exist or access denied" message.  If the download is not in place by 8pm (UK time) this evening, I'll use the prices as of 24th June instead (they are the prices currently on the team selection spreadsheet).
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 23:01 »
    CQ recovered this morning, but still hadn't uploaded the weekly spreadsheet that we see normally see on a Monday by about 8:30 pm (BST) when it went offline again, so the game will run on the basis of the 24th June data.  Good news if you want to select someone who did well in their National Championship last weekend, but probably not much price change for most riders.  But please use the team selection spreadsheet to be sure you are spending within budget.

    A few teams in already: I'll cobble one together to send to Comodoro (the first to submit a team) shortly.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 23:56 »
    Putting my team in for the future TdF, Giro, Vuelta and WC (should throw in a couple of Il Lombardia, but im not tempting fate

    TdF 2018 - C Froome*
    Vuelta 2018 = C Froome*
    WC 2018 - C Froome*
    Giro2019 - V Froome*
    TdF 2019 - C Froome*
    Vuelta 2019 - C Froome*
    WC 2019 - C Froome*
    Giro 2020 - C Froome*
    TdF 2020 - C Froome*
    Vuelta 2020 - C Froome*
    WC 2020 - C Froome*
    Giro 2021 - C Froome*
    TdF 2021 - C Froome*
    Vuelta 2021 - C Froome*
    WC 2021 - C Froome*
    Giro 2022 - C Froome*
    TdF 2022 - C Froome*
    Vuelta 2022 - C Froome*
    WC 2022 - C Froome*
    Giro 2023 - C Froome*
    TdF 2023 - C Froome*
    Vuelta 2023 - C Froome*

    Then in 2024, at 39/40 he will do all 5 monuments in 1 year and retire. 
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #4 on: July 04, 2018, 07:43 »
    startlist with values

    I hope there wer eno late changes I may have missed

             
    #ag2r AG2R LA MONDIALE :cool #quickstep QUICK STEP FLOORS :cool
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    DILLIER Silvan 619   DECLERCQ Tim 64
    DOMONT Axel 58   GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando 860
    FRANK Mathias 339   GILBERT Philippe 892
    GALLOPIN Tony 750   JUNGELS Bob 740
    LATOUR Pierre 658   LAMPAERT Yves 735
    NAESEN Oliver 764   RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel 322
    VUILLERMOZ Alexis 961   TERPSTRA Niki 947
      5604     5955
    #astana ASTANA PRO TEAM :cool #dimension TEAM DIMENSION DATA :cool
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus 686   BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 1179
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar 293   CAVENDISH Mark 152
    FUGLSANG Jakob 895   JANSE VAN RENSBURG Reinardt 73
    GRUZDEV Dmitriy 75   PAUWELS Serge 307
    HANSEN Jesper 334   RENSHAW Mark 44
    KANGERT Tanel 108   SLAGTER Tom-Jelte 577
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 1002   THOMSON Jay Robert 63
    VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael 935   VERMOTE Julien 182
      4328     2577
    #bahrain BAHRAIN - MERIDA :cool #ef TEAM EF EDUCATION FIRST :cool
    COLBRELLI Sonny 1116   CLARKE Simon 160
    HAUSSLER Heinrich 127   CRADDOCK Lawson 118
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka 811   MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe 563
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 582   PHINNEY Taylor 147
    KOREN Kristjan 80   ROLLAND Pierre 160
    NIBALI Vincenzo 1587   SCULLY Tom 40
    PELLIZOTTI Franco 102   URAN URAN Rigoberto 1282
    POZZOVIVO Domenico 936   VANMARCKE Sep 878
      5341     3348
    #bmc BMC RACING TEAM :cool #fortuneo TEAM FORTUNEO - SAMSIC :cool
    BEVIN Patrick 170   BARGUIL Warren 676
    CARUSO Damiano 643   BOUET Maxime 132
    GERRANS Simon 149   GESBERT Elie 171
    KÜNG Stefan 626   HARDY Romain 236
    PORTE Richie 852   LEDANOIS Kevin 101
    SCHÄR Michael 101   MOINARD Amaël 96
    VAN AVERMAET Greg 1499   PICHON Laurent 167
    VAN GARDEREN Tejay 591   VACHON Florian 104
      4631     1683
    #bora BORA-HANSGROHE :cool #katusha TEAM KATUSHA-ALPECIN :cool
    BODNAR Maciej 304   BOSWELL Ian 46
    BURGHARDT Marcus 287   KISERLOVSKI Robert 148
    MAJKA Rafal 708   KITTEL Marcel 676
    MÜHLBERGER Gregor 247   KOCHETKOV Pavel 51
    OSS Daniel 204   MARTIN Tony 356
    POLJANSKI Pawel 193   POLITT Nils 380
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas 156   ZABEL Rick 209
    SAGAN Peter 2537   ZAKARIN Ilnur 748
      4636     2614
    #cofidis COFIDIS SOLUTIONS CRÉDITS :cool #jumbo TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO :cool
    CLAEYS Dimitri 391   GESINK Robert 319
    EDET Nicolas 296   GROENEWEGEN Dylan 1140
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus 568   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl 397
    LAPORTE Christophe 729   KRUIJSWIJK Steven 531
    NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel 382   MARTENS Paul 97
    PEREZ Anthony 207   ROGLIC Primoz 1441
    SIMON Julien 329   ROOSEN Timo 394
    TURGIS Anthony 192   TOLHOEK Antwan 282
      3094     4601
    #direct DIRECT ENERGIE :cool #sky TEAM SKY :cool
    BOUDAT Thomas 276   BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 1332
    CALMEJANE Lilian 657   CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 485
    CHAVANEL Sylvain 394   FROOME Chris 3342
    COUSIN Jérôme 45   KWIATKOWSKI Michal 1283
    GAUDIN Damien 294   MOSCON Gianni 909
    GRELLIER Fabien 127   POELS Wout 966
    SICARD Romain 186   ROWE Luke 59
    TAARAMÄE Rein 283   THOMAS Geraint 1040
      2262     9416
    #fdj GROUPAMA - FDJ :cool #sunweb TEAM SUNWEB :cool
    DEMARE Arnaud 1179   ANDERSEN Søren Kragh 545
    GAUDU David 229   ARNDT Nikias 223
    GUARNIERI Jacopo 25   DUMOULIN Tom 1434
    LE GAC Olivier 194   GESCHKE Simon 138
    LUDVIGSSON Tobias 80   HAGA Chad 78
    MOLARD Rudy 367   MATTHEWS Michael 1520
    SINKELDAM Ramon 252   TEN DAM Laurens 79
    VICHOT Arthur 331   THEUNS Edward 490
      2657     4507
    #lotto LOTTO - SOUDAL :cool #trek TREK-SEGAFREDO :cool
    BENOOT Tiesj 1054   BERNARD Julien 100
    DE BUYST Jasper 484   DE KORT Koen 144
    DE GENDT Thomas 513   DEGENKOLB John 467
    GREIPEL André 1121   GOGL Michael 184
    KEUKELEIRE Jens 437   GRMAY Tsgabu Gebremaryam 136
    MARCZYNSKI Tomasz 226   MOLLEMA Bauke 1059
    SIEBERG Marcel 89   SKUJINS Toms 225
    VANENDERT Jelle 550   STUYVEN Jasper 1071
      4474     3386
    #mitchelton MITCHELTON - SCOTT :cool #uae UAE - TEAMEMIRATES :cool
    BAUER Jack 172   ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 241
    DURBRIDGE Luke 143   DURASEK Kristijan 144
    HAYMAN Mathew 130   FERRARI Roberto 80
    HEPBURN Michael 133   KRISTOFF Alexander 1854
    HOWSON Damien 205   MARCATO Marco 139
    IMPEY Daryl 1017   MARTIN Daniel 828
    NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 499   SUTHERLAND Rory 20
    YATES Adam 978   TROIA Oliviero 59
      3277     3365
    #movistar MOVISTAR TEAM :cool #wanty WANTY – GROUPE GOBERT :cool
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 256   DEGAND Thomas 156
    BENNATI Daniele 122   DUPONT Timothy 729
    ERVITI OLLO Imanol 133   MARTIN Guillaume 746
    LANDA MEANA Mikel 1285   MINNAARD Marco 132
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 931   OFFREDO Yoann 128
    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin 290   PASQUALON Andrea 960
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc 755   SMITH Dion 297
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 1653   VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume 134
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #5 on: July 04, 2018, 16:32 »
    I even got a team in  :o
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #6 on: July 05, 2018, 02:05 »
    I will even do my own team this year  :D 
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #7 on: July 05, 2018, 22:33 »
    With just over a day and a half for entries remaining, 22 teams have been submitted.

    44 riders have been nominated, 21 of them are unique picks, while 3 are on >80% of teams, and 2 others on more than 50%.

    One team has a popularity ranking that is 94% of the Collective Wisdom, another just 38%

    Five riders costing over 1000 points have been chosen, while 12 different <100 point riders have been selected.

    Don't forget to get your team in before the race starts on Saturday morning.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #8 on: July 06, 2018, 22:58 »
    12 hours to go: don't forget to enter!
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #9 on: July 07, 2018, 12:59 »
    So off we go:
    45 teams, 61 riders, here they are

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       THOMAS Geraint   
       PORTE Richie   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       MARTIN Tony   *
       GESINK Robert   
       SICARD Romain   *
       ROWE Luke   

    Amis Velo
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KISERLOVSKI Robert   *
       KANGERT Tanel   

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       THOMAS Geraint   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   
       BEVIN Patrick   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   

    Axl
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       GESINK Robert   
       FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       COUSIN Jérôme   

    Bicycle Boy
       YATES Adam   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   *
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       LUDVIGSSON Tobias   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Bikeracer33
       GROENEWEGEN Dylan   
       THOMAS Geraint   
       PORTE Richie   
       FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
       TOLHOEK Antwan   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       BOSWELL Ian   

    Blues in the Bottle
       YATES Adam   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       GAUDU David   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       LUDVIGSSON Tobias   
       BOSWELL Ian   

    Bminchow
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       GAUDU David   
       ARNDT Nikias   *
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   

    Carlo Algatrensig
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   

    Comodoro
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       BEVIN Patrick   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       RENSHAW Mark   

    Del1962
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   

    Evans is the Best
       BARDET Romain   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       GESINK Robert   
       GAUDU David   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Fauniera
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       PELLIZOTTI Franco   
       MOINARD Amaël   

    Googolplex
       GROENEWEGEN Dylan   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   

    Gotland
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       GAUDU David   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       LUDVIGSSON Tobias   
       COUSIN Jérôme   

    GP Blanco

       BARDET Romain   
       GROENEWEGEN Dylan   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       PAUWELS Serge   
       GAUDU David   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Hakkie2
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   

    Josedin
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       LAPORTE Christophe   *
       MAJKA Rafal   
       TOLHOEK Antwan   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       BOUET Maxime   *

    Just Some Guy

       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       FUGLSANG Jakob   
       PORTE Richie   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   

    Kazistuta
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   

    Koronin
       VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   *
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       PHINNEY Taylor   *
       CRADDOCK Lawson   *
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Laarsland
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       PAUWELS Serge   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       BOSWELL Ian   

    Leadbelly
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       HAGA Chad   

    Los Brolin

       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       HAGA Chad   
       BOSWELL Ian   

    Mellow Velo
       YATES Adam   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       BOSWELL Ian   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Minessa
       YATES Adam   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Nathanptz
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       FUGLSANG Jakob   
       PORTE Richie   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       FERRARI Roberto   *

    North American Scum
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   

    Postmanhat
       YATES Adam   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       FUGLSANG Jakob   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       VICHOT Arthur   *
       CLARKE Simon   *
       PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   
       ROWE Luke   

    RattaKuningas
       GROENEWEGEN Dylan   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       ROWE Luke   

    Rote Laterne

       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       FUGLSANG Jakob   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       KOCHETKOV Pavel   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Ruvu75
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   *
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   

    Safe Bet
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       ROWE Luke   

    Salvarani
       ROGLIC Primoz   *
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       GAUDU David   
       BEVIN Patrick   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   

    Scrool07
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       BOUDAT Thomas   *
       ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   *
       GAUDU David   
       CAVENDISH Mark   

    Search
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       SCULLY Tom   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    SemirS
       THOMAS Geraint   
       FUGLSANG Jakob   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       DURBRIDGE Luke   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Shalgo
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       ROWE Luke   

    Sporting Nonsense
       YATES Adam   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       GAUDU David   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       DOMONT Axel   *
       SCULLY Tom   

    Squire
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       KOCHETKOV Pavel   

    The Pirate81
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       PELLIZOTTI Franco   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Tigerion
       YATES Adam   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       DURBRIDGE Luke   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    Total Package
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       PORTE Richie   
       KITTEL Marcel   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       KANGERT Tanel   

    Vladimir
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       PORTE Richie   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       GAUDU David   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       MOINARD Amaël   

    Yellow Knight
       BARDET Romain   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       DE GENDT Thomas   *
       CAVENDISH Mark   
       RENSHAW Mark   
       GUARNIERI Jacopo   
       SUTHERLAND Rory   

    The asterisks are unique picks.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2018, 13:14 »
    The riders and their frequency of selection

    36:  PORTE Richie
    34:  CAVENDISH Mark, QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander
    27:  ROLLAND Pierre
    21:  GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
    20:  GAUDU David
    17:  KANGERT Tanel
    12:  SUTHERLAND Rory
    11:  KRUIJSWIJK Steven, MARTIN Daniel
    I could have made the Collective Wisdom slightly more popular than it is, but giving the last spot to Sutherland instead of Kruijswijk, but opted for the Dutchman instead in order to make a more realistic spending of the budget, while nominating Dan Martin would have been overbudget. 

    9:  ZAKARIN Ilnur
    8:  KITTEL Marcel
    7:  YATES Adam
    6:  GUARNIERI Jacopo
    5:  BOSWELL Ian, DEGENKOLB John, FUGLSANG Jakob, IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion, MAJKA Rafal, NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel, ROWE Luke
    4:  GROENEWEGEN Dylan, THOMAS Geraint
    3:  BARDET Romain, BEVIN Patrick, FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar, GESINK Robert, JUNGELS Bob, LUDVIGSSON Tobias, PÖSTLBERGER Lukas
    2:  COUSIN Jérôme, DURBRIDGE Luke, HAGA Chad, KOCHETKOV Pavel, LATOUR Pierre, MOINARD Amaël, NIBALI Vincenzo, PAUWELS Serge, PELLIZOTTI Franco, RENSHAW Mark, SCULLY Tom, TOLHOEK Antwan

    So f Quintana and Porte fulfil the bookies' expectations, it will be pretty congested at the top of the table.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #11 on: July 07, 2018, 13:27 »
    Teams by popularity

    1   TotalPackage   197
    2   Carlo_Algatrensig   185
    3   Hakkie2   182
    3   Leadbelly   182
    5   Minessa   178
    6   Mellow_Velo   176
    7   Kazistuta   175
    8   Vladimir   173
    9   JustSomeGuy   171
    9   Shalgo   171
    11   Ruvu75   169
    12   Comodoro   168
    13   Del1962   166
    14   Gotland   161
    15   Armchair_Cyclist   160
    15   Tigerion   160
    17   Salvarani   159
    18   Rote_Laterne   157
    19   Nathanptz   153
    20   Bminchow   149
    21   Scrool07   145
    22   Axl   144
    22   BluesInTheBottle   144
    24   AmisVelo   143
    25   Laarsland   141
    26   LosBrolin   138
    27   SafeBet   136
    28   Squire   134
    29   Evans_is_the_Best   133
    30   RattaKuningas   132
    31   NorthAmericanScum   128
    31   SportingNonsense   128
    33   ThePirate81   126
    34   BicycleBoy   125
    34   Search   125
    36   Googolplex   123
    37   SemirS   120
    38   BikeRacer33   115
    38   Fauniera   115
    40   Josedin   113
    40   Yellow_Knight   113
    42   GPBlanco   103
    43   Koronin   80
    44   AG   63
    45   Postmanhat   61
       Collective_Wisdom   200

    Total Package, although a newcomer to these games (Welcome!), very nearly get the max possible popularity, just having Kittel rather than Sutherland/Kruijswijk to miss perfection in that regard.

    Koronin was bottom of this listing last night, but two of the morning entries beat him for eccentricity; he still has most unique picks, with 3.  2 UPs each for AG, Josedin, Postmanhat and Scrool07.



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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #12 on: July 07, 2018, 13:38 »
    I wouldn't have thought that Gaudu is so popular. In fact, that's the rider in my team I have least expectations but I'll rather cheer for a stage top ten and GC top 20 for him than two stage top fives for Cavendish.
    Now hoping for a Fuglsang podium and a surprising performance by Kochetkov.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #13 on: July 07, 2018, 14:15 »
    The main spends

    The riders costing 800 points or more, and who has gone for them.

    Valverde with Gaviria:   Koronin                  
                         
    Nibali with Quintana and Gaviria:   Fauniera                  
    Nibali with Quintana:   Amis Velo                  
                         
    Bardet with Quintana and Gaviria:   Evans is the Best, Yellow Knight               
    Bardet with Groenewegen:   GP Blanco                  
                         
                         
    Roglic with Gaviria and Porte:    Salvarani                  
                         
    Groenewegen with Thomas and Porte:   Bikeracer33               
    Groenewegen with Porte and Martin:   Googolplex               
    Groenewegen with Quintana:   RattaKuningas                  
                         
    Thomas with Fuglsang, Gaviria and Porte:   SemirS                  
    Thomas with Quintana and Porte:   Armchair Cyclist                  
    Thomas with Porte:   AG                  
                         
    Yates with Quintana and Porte:   Blues in the Bottle, Minessa, Tigerion            
    Yates with Quintana and Gaviria:    Sporting Nonsense                  
                         
    Yates with Quintana, Gaviria and Porte:   Mellow Velo                  
    Yates with Gaviria, Porte and Martin:   Bicycle Boy                  
    Yates with Quintana and Fuglsang:   Postmanhat                  
                         
    Quintana with Fuglsang, Gaviria, and Porte:   Rote Laterne                  
    Quintana with Gaviria, Porte and Martin:   Comodoro, Gotland, Leadbelly, Search, Shalgo      
    Quintana with Fuglsang and Porte:    Just Some Guy,  Nathanptz, TotalPackage            
    Quintana with Gaviria and Porte:   Axl, Carlo Algatrensig               
    Quintana with Porte and Martin:      Laarsland   , Los Brolin, The Pirate81, Vladimir   
    Quintana with Porte:   Del1962, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, Ruvu75, SafeBet, Scrool07, Squire
                         
    Gaviria with Porte and Martin:   Bminchow                  
    Gaviria with Porte:
      Josedin, North American Scum      

    Maybe it is worth noting those who do not have Quintana and Porte:
    no Quintana:   AG, Bminchow, Bicycle Boy, Bikeracer33, Googolplex, GP Blanco, Koronin, North American Scum, Salvarani, Josedin, SemirS
                                     
    no Porte: Amis Velo, Evans is the Best, Fauniera, GP Blanco, Koronin, Postmanhat, RattaKuningas, Sporting Nonsense, Yellow Knight      

          
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #14 on: July 07, 2018, 14:43 »
    I wouldn't have thought that Gaudu is so popular. In fact, that's the rider in my team I have least expectations but I'll rather cheer for a stage top ten and GC top 20 for him than two stage top fives for Cavendish.
    Now hoping for a Fuglsang podium and a surprising performance by Kochetkov.

    More a case of nobody else in the 150-250 point bracket likely to get many points.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #15 on: July 07, 2018, 16:56 »
    Stage 1 First blood to Gaviria, GC mayhem

    Green points

    These are the points for top ten placements on stages, and for wearing the Yellow Jersey.  They cannot be lost even if the riders fails to finish the tour. 

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   100pts (incl 20 for getting Yellow Jersey)   21 teams
    SAGAN Peter   50   0 team
    KITTEL Marcel   35   8 teams
    KRISTOFF Alexander   25   0 team
    LAPORTE Christophe   15   1 team
    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   10   4 teams
    MATTHEWS Michael   5   0 team
    DEGENKOLB John   3   5 teams
    FUGLSANG Jakob   2   5 teams
    MAJKA Rafal   1   5 teams


    1   TotalPackage   135 (Gaviria and Kittel)
    2   Josedin   116 (Gaviria, Laporte and Majka)
    3   Koronin, NorthAmericanScum   103 (Gaviria and Degenkolb)
    5   Rote_Laterne,    SemirS   102 (Gaviria and Fuglsang)
    7   Other Gaviria teams   100
    22   RattaKuningas   45

    Yellow points
    This is the main classification.  It includes the green points, but also points for GC position, and the mountain and points classifications (which get points as per a stage), and 20 points for every finishing.  It is best read a the standings if the race were to finish here and know: it becomes steadily more relevant as the race goes on, and can see dramatic changes after important stages.

    Riders' GC positions, and so most of these points, are virtually the same as the stage, so I won't bother posting them.

    1   TotalPackage   1365
    2   Josedin   1301
    3   SemirS   1157
    4   Koronin   1111
    5   NorthAmericanScum   1092
    6   Rote_Laterne   1062
    7   Fauniera   1045
    8   Search   1003
    9   Axl   959
    10   Evans_is_the_Best   954
    10   Yellow_Knight   954
    12   Gotland   950
    13   Carlo_Algatrensig   944
    14   Bminchow   943
    14   SportingNonsense   943
    16   BicycleBoy   935
    16   Comodoro   935
    16   Leadbelly   935
    16   Mellow_Velo   935
    16   Salvarani   935
    16   Shalgo   935
    22   RattaKuningas   901
    23   AG   833
    24   Kazistuta   777
    25   AmisVelo   715
    26   Scrool07   704
    27   Minessa   605
    27   Tigerion   605
    29   BikeRacer33   477
    30   Postmanhat   465
    31   GPBlanco   425
    32   Googolplex   382
    33   Nathanptz   326
    34   JustSomeGuy   325
    35   Hakkie2   304
    36   BluesInTheBottle   296
    36   Del1962   296
    38   Squire   290
    39   Armchair_Cyclist   255
    40   SafeBet   242
    41   Ruvu75   192
    42   LosBrolin   184
    43   Vladimir   183
    44   Laarsland   168
    44   ThePirate81   168
       Collective_Wisdom   944


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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #16 on: July 08, 2018, 21:04 »
    Stage 2 Chaos in the last 2km


    That fall, and the hold-ups behind it, deprived almost all our teams of the involvement of their sprinters.

    Green points

    SAGAN Peter   100pts   0 team
    COLBRELLI Sonny   50   0 team
    DEMARE Arnaud   35   0 team
    GREIPEL André   25   0 team
    KRISTOFF Alexander   15   0 team
    DUPONT Timothy   10   0 team
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   5   1 team
    PASQUALON Andrea   3   0 team
    DEGENKOLB John   2   5 teams
    GILBERT Philippe   1   0 team

    So very few green points today:
    1   Koronin   7
    2   AG, Kazistuta, NorthAmericanScum, Postmanhat   2

    Koronin has both Valverde and Degenkolb, the other 4 have Degenkolb alone.

    Standings
    1   TotalPackage   135
    2   Josedin   116
    3   Koronin   110
    4   NorthAmericanScum   105
    5=   Rote_Laterne, SemirS   102
    7=   15 other teams with Gaviria 100
    Koronin and NAS were already joint third in this category yesterday.

    Yellow points
    So this always needs a bit of explaining for those who are new to the game on stage 2.  Geraint Thomas didn't actually gain any real points today, but at the end of yesterday he was 15th in GC, so he, and the teams that selected him, were credited with 100 provisional points for GC position; now he sits in 7th, and if he is still there in Paris it will be worth 230 points.  So his projected points have increased by 130. 
    Equally Laporte was 6th on GC (260pts) and 7th in the points classification (5 pts) yesterday, along with his 15 points (that can't be lost) for coming 5th yesterday: Josedin had 280 points from him yesterday. But now he is out of the top ten in the points classification (so zero points there), and has dropped to 57th in GC (getting the minimum 20 points that all finishers get); add in the 15 place points (green points) from yesterday and he is now only worth 35 points to poor Josedin, so he has a daily loss of 245 points.

    THOMAS Geraint   130   4 teams
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   39   1 team
    JUNGELS Bob   36   3 teams
    BARDET Romain   24   3 teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   23   9 teams
    CAVENDISH Mark   22   34 teams
    ...
    DEGENKOLB John   -18   5
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -65   2
    FUGLSANG Jakob   -72   5
    BOUDAT Thomas   -78   1
    MAJKA Rafal   -79   5
    KITTEL Marcel   -90   8
    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   -150   4
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   -180   21
    LAPORTE Christophe   -245   1

    Far more riders than this gained or lost points: I only include those who were selected by at least one team for our game, and not those with a small amount of change.  The threshold for that will vary each day.

    There will be days like today when there are huge changes: there will be other days when most teams' scores don't change at all. And of course if the riders can have negative day scores, so can teams.  And daily winners can be undeserved flukes.

    1   Armchair_Cyclist   152
    2   SafeBet   59
    3   Vladimir   55
    4   Ruvu75   49
    5   LosBrolin   36
    6   Laarsland   33
    6   ThePirate81   33
    8   AG   22
    9   BikeRacer33   2
    10   JustSomeGuy   -27
    11   Hakkie2   -34
    12   Nathanptz   -46
    13   BluesInTheBottle   -57
    13   Del1962   -57
    15   Minessa   -68
    15   Tigerion   -68
    17   Squire   -75
    18   Kazistuta   -82
    19   Postmanhat   -90
    20   GPBlanco   -100
    20   SemirS   -100
    22   Bminchow   -125
    23   AmisVelo   -133
    24   Evans_is_the_Best   -134
    24   Yellow_Knight   -134
    26   SportingNonsense   -135
    27   Koronin   -137
    28   Googolplex   -140
    28   Search   -140
    30   Scrool07   -142
    31   Salvarani   -147
    32   BicycleBoy   -148
    32   Comodoro   -148
    32   Leadbelly   -148
    32   Shalgo   -148
    36   Carlo_Algatrensig   -154
    37   Mellow_Velo   -158
    38   Gotland   -161
    39   Axl   -167
    40   RattaKuningas   -182
    41   NorthAmericanScum   -194
    42   Fauniera   -223
    43   TotalPackage   -248
    44   Rote_Laterne   -252
    45   Josedin   -504
       Collective_Wisdom   -154


    Standings
    Although Gaviria and Kittel lost a fair few points today, they are still among the top scoring riders in the game at the moment, and are the highest that anyone has selected, so Total Package's unique pairing of them remains at the top. Bminchow is new in the top ten as, rather more dramatically with the day's biggest jump, 17 places.

    1   TotalPackage   1117
    2   SemirS   1057
    3   Koronin   974
    4   NorthAmericanScum   898
    5   Search   863
    6   AG   855
    7   Fauniera   822
    8   Evans_is_the_Best   820
    8   Yellow_Knight   820
    10   Bminchow   818
    11   Rote_Laterne   810
    12   SportingNonsense   808
    13   Josedin   797
    14   Axl   792
    15   Carlo_Algatrensig   790
    16   Gotland   789
    17   Salvarani   788
    18   BicycleBoy   787
    18   Comodoro   787
    18   Leadbelly   787
    18   Shalgo   787
    22   Mellow_Velo   777
    23   RattaKuningas   719
    24   Kazistuta   695
    25   AmisVelo   582
    26   Scrool07   562
    27   Minessa   537
    27   Tigerion   537
    29   BikeRacer33   479
    30   Armchair_Cyclist   407
    31   Postmanhat   375
    32   GPBlanco   325
    33   SafeBet   301
    34   JustSomeGuy   298
    35   Nathanptz   280
    36   Hakkie2   270
    37   Googolplex   242
    38   Ruvu75   241
    39   BluesInTheBottle   239
    39   Del1962   239
    41   Vladimir   238
    42   LosBrolin   220
    43   Squire   215
    44   Laarsland   201
    44   ThePirate81   201
       Collective_Wisdom   790

    Tomorrow should see some even more dramatic changes, and at least some of the key riders for the game emerging.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 08:31 »
    ASO did change the stage 2 standings late last evening, notably docking Kittel 4:40 as he was not with the peloton at the 3km marker, knocking him from 4th in GC to 138th or so.  He would therefore lose 300 points, and the current standings would be very different. 

    But I will not be incorporating these changes in the stage 2 results because:
    a: PCS, which I copy and paste into the spreadsheet, still hasn't updated;
    b: I need to get to work;
    c:  the table will be very different at the end of stage 3, so it doesn't matter too much what it will have changed from.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 23:41 »
    Stage 3  Team Time Trial

    Green points
    Different distribution of points for a TTT:

    VAN AVERMAET Greg   40(incl Yellow Jersey points)   0 team
    PORTE Richie   20   36 teams
    BEVIN Patrick   20   3 teams
    and CARUSO Damiano and VAN GARDEREN Tejay   20   0 team
    THOMAS Geraint   12   4  teams
    also BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley, FROOME Chris, KWIATKOWSKI Michal and MOSCON Gianni   12   0  team
    JUNGELS Bob   8   3  teams
    also ALAPHILIPPE Julian, GILBERT Philippe and LAMPAERT Yves   8   0  team
    YATES Adam   6   7  teams
    Also BAUER Jack, HEPBURN Michael   6 and IMPEY Daryl   6   0  team
    HAGA Chad   3   2 teams
    also ANDERSEN Søren Kragh, DUMOULIN Tom, GESCHKE Simon and MATTHEWS Michael   3   0 team
    ROLLAND Pierre   2   27 teams
    SCULLY Tom   2   2 teams
    also MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe, URAN URAN Rigoberto and VANMARCKE Sep   2   0  team
    MAJKA Rafal  1    5 teams
    also MÜHLBERGER Gregor, OSS Daniel and BODNAR Maciej   1  0 team

    Wow: I was at the top of a list yesterday too.

    1   Armchair_Cyclist   54 (Porte, Bevin, Thomas and Rolland)
    2=   Comodoro, Salvarani   42 (Porte, Bevin and Rolland)
    4   BikeRacer33   34 (Porte,Thomas and Rolland)
    5=   AG, SemirS   32
    7=   SafeBet, Search   30
    9=   Mellow_Velo, Minessa, Tigerion   28
    12   BluesInTheBottle   27
    13   BicycleBoy   26
    14   Leadbelly   25
    15=   LosBrolin, Del1962, Hakkie2, Josedin, LosBrolin, Squire   23
    20=   10 teams with Porte and Rolland   22
    32=   The rest of the Porte teams   20
    37   RattaKuningas   10
    38   SportingNonsense   8
    39   Postmanhat   6
    40   AmisVelo   2
    41=   29 riders got green points today, but five of us missed them all!   0
       Collective_Wisdom   22

    I'll normally only put up the top ten in this minor ranking, but to celebrate us all being off the mark, here are everyone's green points thus far:
    1   TotalPackage   157
    2   Comodoro   142
    2   Salvarani   142
    4   Josedin   139
    5   SemirS   134
    6   Search   130
    7   Mellow_Velo   128
    8   NorthAmericanScum   127
    9   BicycleBoy   126
    10   Leadbelly   125
    11   Rote_Laterne   124
    12   Carlo_Algatrensig   122
    12   Shalgo   122
    14   Axl   120
    14   Bminchow   120
    14   Gotland   120
    17   Koronin   110
    18   SportingNonsense   108
    19   Evans_is_the_Best   100
    19   Fauniera   100
    19   Yellow_Knight   100
    22   AG   72
    23   Minessa   63
    23   Tigerion   63
    25   Kazistuta   62
    26   RattaKuningas   55
    26   Scrool07   55
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   54
    29   BikeRacer33   44
    30   AmisVelo   37
    31   Googolplex   32
    32   SafeBet   30
    33   BluesInTheBottle   28
    34   Del1962   24
    34   Hakkie2   24
    34   JustSomeGuy   24
    34   Nathanptz   24
    34   Squire   24
    39   LosBrolin   23
    40   Laarsland   22
    40   Ruvu75   22
    40   Vladimir   22
    43   ThePirate81   20
    44   Postmanhat   13
    45   GPBlanco   10
       Collective_Wisdom   122



    Yellow points
    These are changes since the original set of results published yesterday, not the later, corrected positions.


    JUNGELS Bob   168   3 teams
    THOMAS Geraint   162   4 teams
    PORTE Richie   110   36 teams
    MAJKA Rafal   80   5 teams
    YATES Adam   58   7 teams
    PHINNEY Taylor   57   1 team
    ...
    CAVENDISH Mark   -37   34 teams
    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   -62   4 teams
    DEGENKOLB John   -107   5 teams
    KITTEL Marcel   -300   8 teams
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   -430   21 teams

    1   SafeBet   363
    2   Armchair_Cyclist   291
    3   Squire   250
    4   Hakkie2   238
    5   BluesInTheBottle   211
    6   Ruvu75   205
    7   BikeRacer33   200
    8   Laarsland   197
    9   JustSomeGuy   181
    10   Del1962   180
    11   ThePirate81   170
    12   Nathanptz   156
    13   Vladimir   151
    14   LosBrolin   113
    15   Googolplex   86
    16   Postmanhat   -17
    17   GPBlanco   -70
    18   Search   -126
    19   AG   -135
    20   Minessa   -142
    20   Tigerion   -142
    22   SemirS   -163
    23   RattaKuningas   -195
    24   Josedin   -213
    25   Scrool07   -214
    26   Rote_Laterne   -261
    27   Mellow_Velo   -272
    28   Salvarani   -277
    29   Kazistuta   -283
    30   Bminchow   -294
    31   BicycleBoy   -297
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   -297
    33   AmisVelo   -301
    34   Leadbelly   -305
    35   Comodoro   -308
    36   Shalgo   -328
    37   Axl   -333
    38   Gotland   -355
    39   SportingNonsense   -358
    40   NorthAmericanScum   -376
    41   Fauniera   -458
    42   Evans_is_the_Best   -471
    42   Yellow_Knight   -471
    44   Koronin   -490
    45   TotalPackage   -621
       Collective_Wisdom   -297

    Don't panic, sprinters' teams, you will get points back another day.

    Standings
    Scores turned around almost entirely: there are 8 teams who moved either up or down by 20 or more places, Safe Bet going 27 places in the right direction.  The top 3 were respectively 2nd, 5th and 6th yesterday, but otherwise on ly one of yesterday's top ten remains(Bminchow).  The 4 Geraint Thomas teams (who probably were expecting to reap the first of several yellow jersey bonuses today: I did at least) are all in the top 5, but Search, with most of his points coming from Porte, Gaviria and Jungels, is ahead of most of us.

    1   SemirS   894
    2   Search   737
    3   AG   720
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   698
    5   BikeRacer33   679
    6   SafeBet   664
    7   Josedin   584
    8   Rote_Laterne   549
    9   Bminchow   524
    9   RattaKuningas   524
    11   NorthAmericanScum   522
    12   Salvarani   511
    13   Hakkie2   508
    14   Mellow_Velo   505
    15   TotalPackage   496
    16   Carlo_Algatrensig   493
    17   BicycleBoy   490
    18   Koronin   484
    19   Leadbelly   482
    20   Comodoro   479
    20   JustSomeGuy   479
    22   Squire   465
    23   Axl   459
    23   Shalgo   459
    25   BluesInTheBottle   450
    25   SportingNonsense   450
    27   Ruvu75   446
    28   Nathanptz   436
    29   Gotland   434
    30   Del1962   419
    31   Kazistuta   412
    32   Laarsland   398
    33   Minessa   395
    33   Tigerion   395
    35   Vladimir   389
    36   ThePirate81   371
    37   Fauniera   364
    38   Postmanhat   358
    39   Evans_is_the_Best   349
    39   Yellow_Knight   349
    41   Scrool07   348
    42   LosBrolin   333
    43   Googolplex   328
    44   AmisVelo   281
    45   GPBlanco   255
       Collective_Wisdom   493

    Tomorrow should be a day when most of the yellow table point changes are a reflection of the green table, but who knows what might happen?
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #19 on: July 10, 2018, 21:32 »
    Stage 4 A fairly standard sprint stage to Sarzeau

    Green points
    Not many different sprinters were chosen, but so far only one was really a good pick.

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   80   21 teams
    SAGAN Peter   50   0 team
    GREIPEL André   35   0 team
    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   25   4 teams
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   20   0 team
    KITTEL Marcel   15   8 teams
    PASQUALON Andrea   10   0 team
    KRISTOFF Alexander   5   0 team
    DEGENKOLB John   3   5 teams
    SMITH Dion   2   0 team
    DUPONT Timothy   1   0 team

    That unique pairing of Gaviria and Kittel is likely to dominate this table most of the rest of this week.

    1   TotalPackage   95
    2   Koronin   83
    2   NorthAmericanScum   83
    4   All the other Gaviristas   80
    22   Best of the rest (RattaKuningas)   40

    Standings
    1   TotalPackage   252
    2   Comodoro   222
    2   Salvarani   222
    4   Josedin   219
    5   SemirS   214
    6   NorthAmericanScum   210
    6   Search   210
    8   Mellow_Velo   208
    9   BicycleBoy   206
    10   Leadbelly   205

    Yellow points

    Jungels loses 30 points purely on accumulated finishing positions, but otherwise the main negative change was Zakarin's misfortune.  We see the first of our selected riders DNFing in g Domont, with the loss of 20 points.  Of course, when riders move down the GC, others move up to replace them and take their projected points, so riders gain points today while not obviously havins improved their race position or placing highly today.

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   80   21 teams
    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   26   4 teams
    KITTEL Marcel   20   8 teams
    DEGENKOLB John   18   5 teams
    BARDET Romain   13   3 teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   12   2 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   12   1 team
    MARTIN Daniel   11   11 teams
    YATES Adam   10   7 teams
    ROLLAND Pierre   10   27 teams
    NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   10   1 team
    HAGA Chad   10   2 teams
    ...
    DOMONT Axel   -20   1 team
    JUNGELS Bob   -30   3 teams
    PHINNEY Taylor   -57   1 team
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   -71   9 teams


    1   NorthAmericanScum   122 (Gaviria, Degenkolb and Rolland)
    2   Leadbelly   113 (Gaviria, Martin, Rolland, Haga)
    3   Comodoro   112  (Gaviria, Martin, Rolland)
    3   Shalgo   112  (Gaviria, Martin, Rolland)
    3   TotalPackage   112 (Gaviria, Kittel, Rolland)
    6   Mellow_Velo   111
    7   BicycleBoy   109
    8   Evans_is_the_Best   104
    8   Yellow_Knight   104
    10   Gotland   103
    11   Salvarani   101
    12   Axl   100
    12   Carlo_Algatrensig   100
    14   Fauniera   94
    14   Josedin   94
    16   Rote_Laterne   93
    17   SemirS   88
    18   Kazistuta   67
    19   Koronin   61
    19   Search   61
    21   Minessa   51
    21   Tigerion   51
    23   BikeRacer33   48
    23   Scrool07   48
    25   GPBlanco   46
    25   LosBrolin   46
    27   AmisVelo   44
    28   AG   38
    28   Googolplex   38
    30   Postmanhat   31
    31   Nathanptz   29
    32   RattaKuningas   28
    33   Del1962   27
    34   BluesInTheBottle   21
    35   Armchair_Cyclist   18
    36   Bminchow   16
    37   Squire   12
    38   SportingNonsense   10
    39   Vladimir   -39
    40   Ruvu75   -41
    41   JustSomeGuy   -50
    42   Laarsland   -56
    43   Hakkie2   -59
    44   ThePirate81   -66
    45   SafeBet   -97
       Collective_Wisdom   100

    Standings

    Semir maintains that impressive lead (courtesy of Thomas, Gaviria, Porte and Fuglsang), and the top 5 remain intact, with 4th and 5th swapping.  Zakarin and Jungels based teams fall out of the top ten, leaving space for North American Scum, Mellow Velo and Salvarani, and the rise of the day is shared by the as yet unseparable teams of Evans is the Best and Yellow Knight.

     1   SemirS   982
    2   Search   798
    3   AG   758
    4   BikeRacer33   727
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   716
    6   Josedin   678
    7   NorthAmericanScum   644
    8   Rote_Laterne   642
    9   Mellow_Velo   616
    10   Salvarani   612
    11   TotalPackage   608
    12   BicycleBoy   599
    13   Leadbelly   595
    14   Carlo_Algatrensig   593
    15   Comodoro   591
    16   Shalgo   571
    17   SafeBet   567
    18   Axl   559
    19   RattaKuningas   552
    20   Koronin   545
    21   Bminchow   540
    22   Gotland   537
    23   Kazistuta   479
    24   Squire   477
    25   BluesInTheBottle   471
    26   Nathanptz   465
    27   SportingNonsense   460
    28   Fauniera   458
    29   Evans_is_the_Best   453
    29   Yellow_Knight   453
    31   Hakkie2   449
    32   Del1962   446
    32   Minessa   446
    32   Tigerion   446
    35   JustSomeGuy   429
    36   Ruvu75   405
    37   Scrool07   396
    38   Postmanhat   389
    39   LosBrolin   379
    40   Googolplex   366
    41   Vladimir   350
    42   Laarsland   342
    43   AmisVelo   325
    44   ThePirate81   305
    45   GPBlanco   301
       Collective_Wisdom   593

    Yesterday might bring slightly more change to the tables, but I suspect that the riders most likely to have a dramatic day are not selected in the game.

    I haven't posted the spreadsheet yet: here it is.  I probably won't post that link everyday, but that is where it will be staying.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #20 on: July 12, 2018, 00:26 »
    Stage 5 A hilly sprint


    Green points
    SAGAN Peter   80   0 team
    COLBRELLI Sonny   50   0 team
    GILBERT Philippe   35   0 team
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   25   0 team
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   25   1 team
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   15   0 team
    MARTIN Daniel   10   11 teams
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   3   0 team
    PASQUALON Andrea   2   0 team
    NIBALI Vincenzo   1   2 teams

    Yeah, we weren't really aiming for the expensive puncheurs in our selections, were we?

    1   Koronin   25
    2   BicycleBoy, Bminchow, Comodoro, Googolplex, Gotland, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Shalgo, ThePirate81, Vladimir   10
    13   AmisVelo, Fauniera   1

    1   TotalPackage   252
    2   Comodoro   232
    3   Salvarani   222
    4   Josedin   219
    5   Koronin   218
    6   BicycleBoy   216
    7   Leadbelly   215
    8   SemirS   214
    9   Shalgo   212
    10   Bminchow   210
    10   Gotland   210
    10   NorthAmericanScum   210
    10   Search   210

    Yellow points
    Gilbert overtakes Thomas, lots of non-climbers slide down the table allowing those we ppicked to move up
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   45   1 team
    MARTIN Daniel   28   11 teams
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   22   9 teams
    MAJKA Rafal   20   5 teams
    PORTE Richie   20   36 teams
    FUGLSANG Jakob   20 5   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   20   34 teams
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   15   5 teams
    TOLHOEK Antwan   15   2 teams
    ...
    KISERLOVSKI Robert   -20   1   team
    HAGA Chad   -21   2   teams
    DEGENKOLB John   -47   5   teams
    THOMAS Geraint   -60   4   teams

    Today's top three all have Martin, Zakarin, Porte and Quintana: those last two are very popular picks, so help most people to have a good day.
    1   Laarsland   97
    2   ThePirate81   90
    3   Vladimir   86
    4   Hakkie2   78
    4   JustSomeGuy   78
    6   Del1962   71
    6   Squire   71
    8   Josedin   68
    9   Ruvu75   67
    10   SafeBet   66
    11   BluesInTheBottle   64
    11   Comodoro   64
    11   Rote_Laterne   64
    11   Shalgo   64
    15   Nathanptz   63
    16   Bminchow   62
    17   LosBrolin   61
    18   Gotland   57
    19   BicycleBoy   52
    20   Googolplex   51
    21   Mellow_Velo   48
    22   Search   47
    23   SportingNonsense   46
    24   Carlo_Algatrensig   43
    24   Leadbelly   43
    24   Minessa   43
    24   Tigerion   43
    28   Axl   36
    29   TotalPackage   31
    30   Scrool07   28
    31   Salvarani   26
    32   Fauniera   24
    33   Evans_is_the_Best   22
    33   Yellow_Knight   22
    35   Postmanhat   15
    36   GPBlanco   11
    37   RattaKuningas   10
    38   Koronin   5
    39   AmisVelo   3
    40   NorthAmericanScum   -1
    41   Armchair_Cyclist   -9
    41   Kazistuta   -9
    43   SemirS   -28
    44   BikeRacer33   -30
    45   AG   -92
       Collective_Wisdom   43

    Standings

    Search closes the gap to the leader pretty dramatically, while Josedin overtakes most of the Geraint Thomas teams.  Rote Laterne, and, rather less dramatically, Mellow Velo also move the right way among the top ten, which is joined by Comodoro and Bicycle Boy.  Comodoro's 6 place jump is impressive, but beaten by Just Some Guy.

    1   SemirS   954
    2   Search   845
    3   Josedin   746
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   707
    5   Rote_Laterne   706
    6   BikeRacer33   697
    7   AG   666
    8   Mellow_Velo   664
    9   Comodoro   655
    10   BicycleBoy   651
    11   NorthAmericanScum   643
    12   TotalPackage   639
    13   Leadbelly   638
    13   Salvarani   638
    15   Carlo_Algatrensig   636
    16   Shalgo   635
    17   SafeBet   633
    18   Bminchow   602
    19   Axl   595
    20   Gotland   594
    21   RattaKuningas   562
    22   Koronin   550
    23   Squire   548
    24   BluesInTheBottle   535
    25   Nathanptz   528
    26   Hakkie2   527
    27   Del1962   517
    28   JustSomeGuy   507
    29   SportingNonsense   506
    30   Minessa   489
    30   Tigerion   489
    32   Fauniera   482
    33   Evans_is_the_Best   475
    33   Yellow_Knight   475
    35   Ruvu75   472
    36   Kazistuta   470
    37   LosBrolin   440
    38   Laarsland   439
    39   Vladimir   436
    40   Scrool07   424
    41   Googolplex   417
    42   Postmanhat   404
    43   ThePirate81   395
    44   AmisVelo   328
    45   GPBlanco   312
       Collective_Wisdom   636

    Isuspect that the riders who might have slipped tomorrow on GC might have already have slipped today, but the time gaps should be more than today, and so the possibilities for the more expensive picks to move about relative to each other are greater.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #21 on: July 13, 2018, 00:55 »
    Stage 6 GC men either stretch their legs or puncture their tyres on the Mur de Bretagne

    Green points

    MARTIN Daniel   80 pts   11 teams
    LATOUR Pierre   50   2 teams
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   35   1 team
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   25   0 team
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   20   0 team
    MAJKA Rafal   15   5 teams
    YATES Adam   10   7 teams
    MOLLEMA Bauke   5   0 team
    SAGAN Peter   3   0 team
    THOMAS Geraint   2   4 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   1   1 team

    1   Googolplex   130 (Martin & Latour)
    2   BicycleBoy   90 (Martin & Yates)
    3   Bminchow, Comodoro, Gotland, Laarsland, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Shalgo, ThePirate81, Vladimir   80
    12   Squire   65 (Latour & Majka)
    13   Koronin   35 (Valverde)
    14   BluesInTheBottle   25
    15   Del1962, Hakkie2, Josedin   15
    18   Mellow_Velo, Minessa, Postmanhat, SportingNonsense, Tigerion   10
    23   AG, Armchair_Cyclist, BikeRacer33, SemirS   2
    27   Salvarani   1
    28   The rest   0

    After a couple of puncheur stages, Gaviria and Martin is a better combination in this section than Gaviria and Kittel.  That might swing back over the next couple of days.

    1   Comodoro   312
    2   BicycleBoy   306
    3   Leadbelly   295
    4   Shalgo   292
    5   Bminchow   290
    5   Gotland   290
    7   Koronin   253
    8   TotalPackage   252
    9   Josedin   234
    10   Salvarani   223


    Yellow points
    Thomas's 2nd place at the bonus point  is more telling that Dan Martin's 1st at the stage finish, and although none of us suffer from Dumoulin and Kragh Andersen losing so many places, there are lots of points gained by those they slipped past.

    THOMAS Geraint   132   4 teams
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   120   1 team
    MARTIN Daniel   103   11 teams
    LATOUR Pierre   76   2 teams
    YATES Adam   36   7 teams
    MAJKA Rafal   35   5 teams
    FUGLSANG Jakob   20   5 teams
    ...

    TOLHOEK Antwan   -19   2 teams
    BARDET Romain   -19   3 teams


    1   Googolplex   184
    2   Armchair_Cyclist   159
    3   Laarsland   142
    3   SemirS   142
    5   AG   139
    6   LosBrolin   135
    7   ThePirate81   134
    8   BicycleBoy   129
    9   Squire   128
    10   Vladimir   127
    11   BikeRacer33   119
    12   Koronin   114
    13   Gotland   105
    14   Bminchow   102
    15   Leadbelly   100
    16   Comodoro   99
    16   Shalgo   99
    18   BluesInTheBottle   93
    19   Postmanhat   82
    20   Del1962   61
    21   Hakkie2   60
    22   Minessa   50
    22   Tigerion   50
    24   JustSomeGuy   44
    25   Nathanptz   36
    25   SportingNonsense   36
    27   Mellow_Velo   32
    28   SafeBet   25
    29   Ruvu75   19
    30   Rote_Laterne   16
    30   Scrool07   16
    32   Kazistuta   13
    33   Josedin   12
    34   AmisVelo   5
    34   RattaKuningas   5
    36   Axl   4
    37   Search   2
    38   Carlo_Algatrensig   -3
    39   GPBlanco   -4
    40   NorthAmericanScum   -5
    40   TotalPackage   -5
    42   Fauniera   -7
    43   Salvarani   -9
    44   Evans_is_the_Best   -27
    44   Yellow_Knight   -27
       Collective_Wisdom   -3

    Standings

    Over 200 points as a lead is impressive at this stage, but a lot of riders will have a lot of positional changes in GC yet.  The three Thomas teams who could move upwards (Armchair, Bikeracer and AG) all move up 2 places, and are all back in the top 5.  Bicycle Boy also improves his position in the top ten, as Leadbelly and Shalgo join the top ten. Googolplex is not only daily top scorer by both methods: he also has a huge 18 place jump.

    1   SemirS   1096
    2   Armchair_Cyclist   866
    3   Search   847
    4   BikeRacer33   816
    5   AG   805
    6   BicycleBoy   780
    7   Josedin   758
    8   Comodoro   754
    9   Leadbelly   738
    10   Shalgo   734
    11   Rote_Laterne   722
    12   Bminchow   704
    13   Gotland   699
    14   Mellow_Velo   696
    15   Squire   676
    16   Koronin   664
    17   SafeBet   658
    18   NorthAmericanScum   638
    19   TotalPackage   634
    20   Carlo_Algatrensig   633
    21   Salvarani   629
    22   BluesInTheBottle   628
    23   Googolplex   601
    24   Axl   599
    25   Hakkie2   587
    26   Laarsland   581
    27   Del1962   578
    28   LosBrolin   575
    29   RattaKuningas   567
    30   Nathanptz   564
    31   Vladimir   563
    32   JustSomeGuy   551
    33   SportingNonsense   542
    34   Minessa   539
    34   Tigerion   539
    36   ThePirate81   529
    37   Ruvu75   491
    38   Postmanhat   486
    39   Kazistuta   483
    40   Fauniera   475
    41   Evans_is_the_Best   448
    41   Yellow_Knight   448
    43   Scrool07   440
    44   AmisVelo   333
    45   GPBlanco   308
       Collective_Wisdom   633


    For the next 2 stages it will be mainly about Green points gained: think of it as the limbo before going into Hell.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #22 on: July 14, 2018, 12:51 »
    Stage 7 Sprint after a gentle ride

    I picked a good stage to miss.

    Green points

    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   80   4 teams
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   50   21 teams
    SAGAN Peter   35   0 team
    DEMARE Arnaud   25   0 team
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   20   0 team
    LAPORTE Christophe   15   1 team
    DEGENKOLB John   10   5 teams
    IMPEY Daryl   5   0 team
    GREIPEL André   3   0 team
    PASQUALON Andrea   2   0 team
    CAVENDISH Mark   1   34 teams


    1=   BikeRacer33, GPBlanco, RattaKuningas   81 (Groenewegen and Cavendish)
    4   Googolplex   80 (Groenewegen)
    5   Josedin   65 (Gaviria and Laporte)
    6   Koronin   61 (Gaviria, Degenkolb, Cavendish)
    7   NorthAmericanScum   60(Gaviria, Degenkolb)
    8   16 teams with Gav'n'Cav   51

    1   Comodoro   363
    2   BicycleBoy   357
    3   Leadbelly   346
    4   Shalgo   343
    5   Bminchow   341
    5   Gotland   341
    7   Koronin   314
    8   TotalPackage   303
    9   Josedin   299
    10   Googolplex   277


    Yellow points

    Highest GC change is at 47th place, and there are only minor changes in the minor categories, so very little to report not accounted for above.

    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   95   4 teams
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   50   21 teams
    LAPORTE Christophe   15   1 team
    DEGENKOLB John   10   5 teams
    KANGERT Tanel   2   17 teams
    CAVENDISH Mark   1   34 teams
    ...
    LATOUR Pierre   -1   2 teams
    MARTIN Daniel   -2   11 teams
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   -2   3 teams
    KITTEL Marcel   -2   8 teams
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -3   1 team

    So this is basically the green points of the day with slight tweaks:
    1   GPBlanco   98
    2   RattaKuningas   96
    3   BikeRacer33, Googolplex   94
    5   Josedin   65
    6   Koronin, NorthAmericanScum   58
    8   Carlo_Algatrensig, Fauniera, Salvarani   53
    11   Bminchow, Evans_is_the_Best, Leadbelly, Mellow_Velo, SemirS, SportingNonsense, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight   51
    19   Rote_Laterne, Search   50
    21   Axl,    BicycleBoy, Comodoro, Gotland, Shalgo   49
    26   Postmanhat   10
    27   Kazistuta   9
    28   AG   8
    29   Armchair_Cyclist, Hakkie2, Ruvu75   3
    32   SafeBet   2
    33   AmisVelo, BluesInTheBottle, Del1962, JustSomeGuy, Nathanptz, Squire   1
    39   Laarsland, ThePirate81   0
    41   LosBrolin, Minessa, Scrool07, Tigerion, Vladimir   -1
       Collective_Wisdom   53


    Standings
    I think the GC standings I used for the stage 6 update must have been published before Dumoulin's 20 second penalty was applied, so teams with Roglic and Nibali have a 6 point bonus in these standings not accounted for in the daily points above.


    I drop a couple of places off the podium, and AG drops 5 in the top ten: Total Package and Ratta Kuningas get 6 place rises.

    1   SemirS   1167
    2   Search   917
    3   BikeRacer33   910
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   869
    5   BicycleBoy   849
    6   Josedin   843
    7   Comodoro   823
    8   AG   813
    9   Leadbelly   809
    10   Shalgo   803
    11   Rote_Laterne   792
    12   Bminchow   775
    13   Gotland   768
    14   Mellow_Velo   767
    15   Koronin   737
    16   NorthAmericanScum   716
    17   Salvarani   708
    18   Carlo_Algatrensig   706
    19   TotalPackage   705
    20   Googolplex   695
    21   Squire   677
    22   Axl   668
    23   RattaKuningas   663
    24   SafeBet   660
    25   BluesInTheBottle   629
    26   SportingNonsense   613
    27   Hakkie2   590
    28   Laarsland   581
    29   Del1962   579
    30   LosBrolin   574
    31   Nathanptz   565
    32   Vladimir   562
    33   Fauniera   554
    34   JustSomeGuy   552
    35   Minessa   538
    35   Tigerion   538
    37   ThePirate81   529
    38   Evans_is_the_Best   519
    38   Yellow_Knight   519
    40   Postmanhat   496
    41   Ruvu75   494
    42   Kazistuta   492
    43   Scrool07   439
    44   GPBlanco   406
    45   AmisVelo   340
       Collective_Wisdom   706

    And today is unlikely to be any more interesting.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #23 on: July 14, 2018, 18:55 »
    Stage 8 Another stately approach, except for Dan Martin, to a head-bump and a sprint.


    Green points

    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   80pts   4 teams
    SAGAN Peter   50   0
    DEGENKOLB John   35   5
    KRISTOFF Alexander   25   0
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   20   0
    DEMARE Arnaud   15   0
    BOUDAT Thomas   10   1
    ARNDT Nikias   5   1
    CAVENDISH Mark   3   34
    LAMPAERT Yves   2   0
    PASQUALON Andrea   1   0

    Degenkolb has been quietly collecting minor points on several stages, and giving some value to the teams that picked him.  Groenewegen might yet prove a better investment than the rather cheaper Gaviria as an expensive sprint option, especially if the latter continues to get relegated.



    1   BikeRacer33, GPBlanco, RattaKuningas   83
    4   Googolplex   80
    5   Kazistuta, Koronin   38
    7   AG, NorthAmericanScum, Postmanhat   35
    10   Scrool07   13
    11   Bminchow   8
    12   27 Cavendish teams   3

    Standings
    1   Comodoro   366
    2   BicycleBoy   360
    3   Googolplex   357
    4   Koronin   352
    5   Bminchow   349
    5   Leadbelly   349
    7   Shalgo   346
    8   Gotland   344
    9   TotalPackage   306
    10   NorthAmericanScum   305

    Googolplex infiltrates the Gaviristas


    Yellow points

    The drop of Alaphilippe hurts no team, but gives a sizeable GC point boost to many.  Dan Martin's fall is also, more modestly, good for others, but there are some teams that pay for that.  Again, there are minor changes in the other classifications that contribute to today's gains and losses.

    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   100   4 teams
    DEGENKOLB John   38   5 teams
    JUNGELS Bob   30   3 teams
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   28   1 team
    MAJKA Rafal   20   5 teams
    FUGLSANG Jakob   20   5 teams
    PORTE Richie   20   36 teams
    BOUDAT Thomas   11   1 team
    ...
    PAUWELS Serge   -7   2 teams
    BOUET Maxime   -12   1 team
    MARTIN Daniel   -20   11 teams


    A rare day on which no-one, not even the Dan Martin teams, have a nett loss.
    1   RattaKuningas   138
    2   BikeRacer33   125
    3   Googolplex   101
    4   GPBlanco   99
    5   Koronin   71
    6   Kazistuta   65
    7   NorthAmericanScum   62
    8   Postmanhat   60
    9   AG   58
    10   SafeBet   57
    11   Search   52
    12   Hakkie2   50
    13   Del1962   49
    13   JustSomeGuy   49
    15   Nathanptz   47
    16   BluesInTheBottle   45
    17   Rote_Laterne   44
    18   SemirS   43
    18   Squire   43
    20   Scrool07   36
    21   Ruvu75   32
    21   Salvarani   32
    23   Armchair_Cyclist   30
    23   Josedin   30
    25   Carlo_Algatrensig   28
    25   TotalPackage   28
    27   Mellow_Velo   27
    27   Minessa   27
    27   Tigerion   27
    30   Axl   25
    31   AmisVelo   14
    32   Fauniera   12
    33   Bminchow   11
    34   Vladimir   9
    35   Leadbelly   8
    36   Comodoro   7
    36   Evans_is_the_Best   7
    36   LosBrolin   7
    36   Shalgo   7
    36   SportingNonsense   7
    36   Yellow_Knight   7
    42   Gotland   5
    42   ThePirate81   5
    44   BicycleBoy   3
    45   Laarsland   0
       Collective_Wisdom   28

    Standings

    A couple of wins for Groenewegen list BikeRacer to be the closest challenger to Semir's dominance, and in the top 10 Josedin and AG head in the right direction, while Rote Laterne joins the party.  Ratta Kuningas is the fastest riser (10 places) on his own today, having shared the honour yesterday.

    1   SemirS   1210
    2   BikeRacer33   1035
    3   Search   969
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   899
    5   Josedin   873
    6   AG   871
    7   BicycleBoy   852
    8   Rote_Laterne   836
    9   Comodoro   830
    10   Leadbelly   817
    11   Shalgo   810
    12   Koronin   808
    13   RattaKuningas   801
    14   Googolplex   796
    15   Mellow_Velo   794
    16   Bminchow   786
    17   NorthAmericanScum   778
    18   Gotland   773
    19   Salvarani   740
    20   Carlo_Algatrensig   734
    21   TotalPackage   733
    22   Squire   720
    23   SafeBet   717
    24   Axl   693
    25   BluesInTheBottle   674
    26   Hakkie2   640
    27   Del1962   628
    28   SportingNonsense   620
    29   Nathanptz   612
    30   JustSomeGuy   601
    31   Laarsland   581
    31   LosBrolin   581
    33   Vladimir   571
    34   Fauniera   566
    35   Minessa   565
    35   Tigerion   565
    37   Kazistuta   557
    38   Postmanhat   556
    39   ThePirate81   534
    40   Evans_is_the_Best   526
    40   Ruvu75   526
    40   Yellow_Knight   526
    43   GPBlanco   505
    44   Scrool07   475
    45   AmisVelo   354
       Collective_Wisdom   734

    After 2 days of racing limbo, they visit at least the gates of hell tomorrow.  Something big will happen, but who knows what.
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    Re: 2018 Tour de France CQ game
    « Reply #24 on: July 15, 2018, 22:19 »
    Stage 9 Cobbles to Roubaix

    With one notable exception, that was remarkably underwhelming in its effect on the game and the 3 week race, gripping to watch as it was.

    Green points 

    DEGENKOLB John   80   5 team
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   70   0 team
    LAMPAERT Yves   35   0 team
    GILBERT Philippe   25   0 team
    SAGAN Peter   15   0 team
    STUYVEN Jasper   10   0 team
    JUNGELS Bob   5   3 teams
    GREIPEL André   3   0 team
    BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   2   0 team
    DUPONT Timothy   1   0 team

    The best cobbles specialists are expensive, and don't get many points in Grand Tours, so the shortage of point earners shouldn't be a surprise

    1   AG, Kazistuta, Koronin, NorthAmericanScum, Postmanhat   80
    6   RattaKuningas, SafeBe, Search   5

    Standings
    Koronin and NAS have been picking up a few points from Degenkolb over the week, and got the big points today to add to those they already had from Gaviria.  The highest positioned other scorer today is Search in 15th.
    1   Koronin   432
    2   NorthAmericanScum   385
    3   Comodoro   366
    4   BicycleBoy   360
    5   Googolplex   357
    6   Bminchow   349
    6   Leadbelly   349
    8   Shalgo   346
    9   Gotland   344
    10   TotalPackage   306


    Yellow points

    All but 9 teams (Amis Velo, Evans is the Best, Fauniera, GP Blanco, Koronin, Postmanhat, RattaKuningas, Sporting Nonsense, Yellow Knight) have effectively seen 21% of their budget sitting in tears on a kerb 10km from Arras.

    Against most expectations, it was the riders who didn't really have much concern about their GC position that lost places today, so most of the important picks in the game (other than Porte, obviously) actually gained prospective points.  Van Garderen and Uran dropping down the classification gifts points galore, but none of our teams were penalised by that.

    DEGENKOLB John   82   5 teams
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   60   1 team
    MAJKA Rafal   60   5 teams
    YATES Adam   60   7 teams
    FUGLSANG Jakob   50   5 teams
    JUNGELS Bob   35   3 teams
    NIBALI Vincenzo   30   2 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   26   1 team
    BARDET Romain   23   3 teams
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   22   11 teams
    KANGERT Tanel   21   17 teams
    PAUWELS Serge   21   2 teams
    BOUDAT Thomas   16   1 team
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   16   9 teams
    MARTIN Daniel   14   11 teams
    MOINARD Amaël   13   2 teams
    BOUET Maxime   12   1 team
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   10   34
    ...
    LATOUR Pierre   -11   2 teams
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   -14   5 teams
    MARTIN Tony   -20   1 team
    VICHOT Arthur   -25   1 team
    PORTE Richie   -160   36 teams


    The loss of Porte was more than the gains for all 36 teams who had picked the most popular rider in the game.
    1   Postmanhat   177 (Degenkolb, Yates, Fuglsang, but Vichot)
    2   Koronin   128 (Degenkolb, Valverde, but Izaguirre)
    3   GPBlanco   87
    4   SportingNonsense   86
    5   Fauniera   74
    6   RattaKuningas   69
    7   AmisVelo   64
    8   Evans_is_the_Best   33
    8   Yellow_Knight   33
    10   BluesInTheBottle   -30
    11   Kazistuta   -43
    12   Hakkie2   -49
    13   Squire   -54
    14   NorthAmericanScum   -66
    15   Laarsland   -74
    15   Nathanptz   -74
    15   SafeBet   -74
    18   JustSomeGuy   -80
    19   Ruvu75   -81
    20   Josedin   -84
    21   BicycleBoy   -86
    21   Mellow_Velo   -86
    23   Minessa   -87
    23   Tigerion   -87
    25   Search   -93
    26   Rote_Laterne   -96
    27   AG   -99
    27   ThePirate81   -99
    29   Del1962   -100
    30   Carlo_Algatrensig   -103
    30   Vladimir   -103
    32   Bminchow   -109
    32   Salvarani   -109
    34   SemirS   -110
    35   Leadbelly   -111
    36   Scrool07   -113
    37   TotalPackage   -126
    38   Axl   -128
    38   LosBrolin   -128
    40   Comodoro   -132
    40   Googolplex   -132
    40   Shalgo   -132
    43   Gotland   -136
    44   Armchair_Cyclist   -139
    45   BikeRacer33   -156
       Collective_Wisdom   -103


    Standings

    Koronin and Ratta Kuningas enter the top ten on jumps of 10 and 8 places respectively, and other than the imperious Semir everyone in this mornings top ten drops places.  Koronin's jump is exceeded by Fauniera (11 places), SportingNonsense (14), GPBlanco   (15) and by Postmanhat, with an amazing 27 place vault.

    1   SemirS   1100
    2   Koronin   936
    3   BikeRacer33   879
    4   Search   876
    5   RattaKuningas   870
    6   Josedin   789
    7   AG   772
    8   BicycleBoy   766
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   760
    10   Rote_Laterne   740
    11   Postmanhat   733
    12   NorthAmericanScum   712
    13   Mellow_Velo   708
    14   Leadbelly   706
    14   SportingNonsense   706
    16   Comodoro   698
    17   Shalgo   678
    18   Bminchow   677
    19   Squire   666
    20   Googolplex   664
    21   BluesInTheBottle   644
    22   SafeBet   643
    23   Fauniera   640
    24   Gotland   637
    25   Carlo_Algatrensig   631
    25   Salvarani   631
    27   TotalPackage   607
    28   GPBlanco   592
    29   Hakkie2   591
    30   Axl   565
    31   Evans_is_the_Best   559
    31   Yellow_Knight   559
    33   Nathanptz   538
    34   Del1962   528
    35   JustSomeGuy   521
    36   Kazistuta   514
    37   Laarsland   507
    38   Minessa   478
    38   Tigerion   478
    40   Vladimir   468
    41   LosBrolin   453
    42   Ruvu75   445
    43   ThePirate81   435
    44   AmisVelo   418
    45   Scrool07   362
       Collective_Wisdom   631

    I might find time for some stats tomorrow, but current tables are of course before they have even seen anything more than a small hill, so everything still to play for, even for the 80% of us who have lost one of our key riders.
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