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Gravel classics list!
« on: September 03, 2018, 22:49 »
While many here know the cobbled classics by name and order of appearance on the calendar, gravel races are a bit more obscure.  With this thread I just wanted to compile a list of gravel races (2018), length, how much gravel and the current winners. Obviously this is inspired by watching the new UCI race Gylne Gutuer this Sunday, but please help me complete the list:

Updated and expanded because the Belgians (who else) threw in some cobbles too:

Race RankRace nameTotal length (km)Gravel length (km)G-factorcobbles lengthC-factorC/B factorWinner 2018
1.2Gylne Gutuer163500,3100,000,31#axeon Jasper Philipsen
1.UWTStrade Bianche184630,3400,000,34#lotto Tiesj Benoot
1.1Tro-Bro-Leon203330,1600,000,16#cofidis Cristophe Laporte
1.1 Antweerp Port Epic207300,14320,150,30#wanty Guillaume Keirsbulck
PostNord CupGP Herning189280,1500,000,15#riwal Troels Vinther
1.2Gravel and Tar132400,3000,000,30#mobius Ethan Berends
1.1Slag om Norg191300,1600,000,16#roompot Jan Willem Van Schip
1.1Dwars door het Hageland 198180,0900,000,09#academy Krists Neilandts
1.1Rutland-Melton Cicle Classic 188150,0800,000,08#wiggins Gabriel Cullaigh

this is of course just the raw data.....wait a few days more for all my fancy graphics :)

PS: I see no reason not to include the ladies' races here except we have sex-segregated forums, so maybe next year the provisionally named "Laps of Lukas" will feature on the list.

Does everyone agree we shouldn't count in stage race stages here? (they're for wimps, right  :shh )
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  • « Last Edit: September 04, 2018, 20:03 by t-72, Reason: updated with all info in posts until 04/09 20:00 + some speculation! »

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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #1 on: September 04, 2018, 05:13 »
    can someone please help me complete the list?
    *dk Schaal Sels now-renamed-to Antwerp Port Epic:
    207 km, of which 30 km gravel and 32 km cobbles. 1.1 category, held two days ago (2 September), won by #wanty Guillaume van Keirsbulck. Solo. 1:37 minutes ahead of the runner-up.

    *dk GP Herning is 'only' a PostNord Cup race these years, but was 1.1 and 1.2 as recently as 2013, and hopes to get back to UCI level.
    189 km, of which 27.61 km gravel. Held in late April, won this year by #riwal Troels Vinther.
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #2 on: September 04, 2018, 07:52 »
    Race RankRace nameTotal length (km)Gravel length (km)G-factorWinner 2018
    1.2Gravel and Tar131.5400.3#mobius Ethan Berends

    There will also be a women's version (1.2) in 2019 with a G-factor of 0.4
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #3 on: September 04, 2018, 12:13 »
    Slag om Norg (1.1) [No, it's not the Battle of Norway, fight for heavy water, etc  :P], raced on August 11, 190.5km, ~30km on gravel (website is not really precise about it). Won by Jan-Willem Van Schip of Roompot (who was also prominent in the Antwerp Port Epic).

    Dwars door het Hageland is also a hybrid gravel/cobbles. I don't remember who won, one of those Israeli if I remember correctly.  :P
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #4 on: September 04, 2018, 12:17 »
    At 188km, the UK's Rutland-Melton Cicle Classic is currently 14 editions old and a UCI 1.1 race.

    I've done a rough calculation based on the 2018 route map and it consists of 11 sectors of farm tracks adding up to about 14.5km of rough stuff. Two such sectors are also uphill along with six other regular asphalt climbs along the Surrey route.

    This year's winner was Gabriel Cullaigh of #wiggins.

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    Dwars door het Hageland has been running on and off since 2001 and features 14 sectors of dirt and gravel roads totalling 18.2km along with five cobbled climbs.

    This year's winner was Krists Neilands of #israel and the race is currently UCI 1.1.


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    Elsewhere there was some talk that Spain's GP Canal de Castilla could soon field a pro race but it has yet to happen.
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #5 on: September 04, 2018, 12:36 »
    At 188km, the UK's Rutland-Melton Cicle Classic is currently 14 editions old and a UCI 1.1 race.

    I've done a rough calculation based on the 2018 route map and it consists of 11 sectors of farm tracks adding up to about 14.5km of rough stuff. Two such sectors are also uphill along with six other regular asphalt climbs along the Surrey route.

    Not in Surrey; it's in the East Midlands, in, erm, Rutland and Leicestershire.
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #6 on: September 04, 2018, 12:38 »
    Not in Surrey; it's in the East Midlands, in, erm, Rutland and Leicestershire.

    Oops, of course it is, sorry. Must have mixed up Oakham with Ockham in my head. :D
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #7 on: September 04, 2018, 20:12 »
    Stats nerd post of the day warning!

    Hello all...please see the top post for updated list with all the info provided. Thanks for helping, and if there are more races please post below here, I will keep adding.

    So far, the Strade Bianche actually leads in % of rough terrain (the G-factor is, for those who didn't see it immediately, gravel length divided by total length, in other words the proportion of gravel along the percorso. Also if we look at total gravel length,  the Strade Biance leads by some margin.

    Because the Antwerp Port Epic also includes cobbles, I had to make a G/C factor=((gravel+cobbles)/total), and considering that, the renamed Sals Scheels is the runner-up, finishing in a group with Gylne Gutuer and Gravel and Tar for second most "rough roads" - they almost rate similarly on the G/C factor but total length of rough terrain is longest in the APE.

    (apologies: actual graphics to follow a day with some more time on my hands :) )


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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #8 on: September 05, 2018, 13:17 »
    Paris Tours has heard of the new enthusiasm for such routes here, and has 12.5 out of 211km on vineyard paths.
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #9 on: September 05, 2018, 21:49 »
    Paris Tours has heard of the new enthusiasm for such routes here, and has 12.5 out of 211km on vineyard paths.



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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #10 on: September 05, 2018, 22:05 »
    . . . farm tracks . . . cobbled climbs. . . .
    . . .vineyard paths.

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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #11 on: September 11, 2018, 22:26 »
    A stolen note from another forum, about equipment for gravel races, following the Gylne Gutuer:

    #joker Joker-Icopal: Continental Competition tubulars: 12 punctures
    #unox Uno-X: Schwalbe Pro One tubeless tires: 1 puncture

    Time to roll out the tubeless setup in "rough surface" races?
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #12 on: September 11, 2018, 22:50 »
    I read on the boards somewhere that GP Plouay/Ouest France had a considerable proportion of something untarmacked, but have no further info.
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    Re: Gravel classics list!
    « Reply #13 on: November 08, 2018, 10:06 »
    I've done Rutland Melton... its really hard !

    Not just the tracks, its the steepness of some of the climbs as well that fatigues you.
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