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Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
« on: January 28, 2019, 20:32 »
#unox Tobias Foss on his second training camp with #jumbo
so that's the first 2019 --> 2020 rumour then?  :angel
It's got to start somewhere :D
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 13:54 »
    It's got to start somewhere :D
    Consider it started! ;)
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #2 on: May 01, 2019, 12:55 »
    #biesse Simone Ravanelli --> #androni Androni Giocattoli Sidermec

    Looked very promising over the past weeks, should be a good signing

    https://androniteam.it/va-avanti-la-linea-giovani-dellandroni-giocattoli-sidermec-nel-2020-arrivera-simone-ravanelli/
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #3 on: May 01, 2019, 19:05 »
    I thought he had missed the bus tbh. He was on my radar (CQ and all that) after his performances at Valle d'Aosta back in '14 and '15 and I wondered if maybe a Italian PCT team might pick him up after those results, but he's just been puttering about at CT level for what will be four years.

    It's quite similar to Carboni at Bardiani. Good performances a few years ago, but no step up. Giovanni even had to drop back down to club level with Colpack for a year.

    Strange really as it's not as if there aren't the Italian PCT teams in need of homegrown talent. I don't know if either of them has been doing a university course. That could be a plausible explanation for not making the jump till they're that bit older.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #4 on: May 01, 2019, 20:32 »
    Maybe also no sponsor to pay for his PC spot.  :-x
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #6 on: May 05, 2019, 11:40 »
    More #unox rumours:

    #unox Andreas Leknessund ----> #sunweb

    According to agent Manuel Qionziato there are several WT teams interested (#jumbo, #uae mentioned) but Sunweb has clearly been the most keen team to get him on board and maybe prepared to outbid other teams. If he doesn't stay with #unox for one more year, that is.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #7 on: May 05, 2019, 16:05 »
     Only Oomen and S. Kragh Andersen developed nicely at #sunweb. Kämna was close to retiring and disappoints like Storer and Hindley. Don't know whats up with Kanter.
    So I would prefer another team for him or staying one more year with  #unox.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #8 on: May 05, 2019, 19:39 »
    ...but Oomen was already quite developed out of the Rabobank U23 system, seem to remember him riding well, along with Mathieu van der Poel, at a Norwegian event already long ago!

    EDIT: however, lately I have read good things about Sunweb and their development system (mostly related to the women's side though). They may not be as good as #jumbo but they are close competitors.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #9 on: May 05, 2019, 20:16 »
    if he signs for Sunweb, that would probably be the devolopment team first anyway, wouldn't it?! I don't think Sunweb (the WT team) has picked up any youngsters elsewhere since that one exists
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #10 on: May 06, 2019, 12:42 »
    More #unox rumours:

    #unox Andreas Leknessund ----> #sunweb
    Only Oomen and S. Kragh Andersen developed nicely at #sunweb. Kämna was close to retiring and disappoints like Storer and Hindley. Don't know whats up with Kanter.
    So I would prefer another team for him or staying one more year with  #unox.
    ...but Oomen was already quite developed out of the Rabobank U23 system, seem to remember him riding well, along with Mathieu van der Poel, at a Norwegian event already long ago!

    EDIT: however, lately I have read good things about Sunweb and their development system (mostly related to the women's side though). They may not be as good as #jumbo but they are close competitors.
    Sunweb is a very rigid system. For some, that is good as it gives them clear benchmarks and structures, and helps them bring out their best - for others, it stifles them.
    We've just recently seen Janneke Ensing, the women's team's star signing four months ago, leave the team by mutual agreement because it didn't fit her.
    Ellen van Dijk didn't have great things to say about it either after leaving for Trek.

    My impression is that the older you are and the longer you have been in cycling, the less likely it is that you can adapt to the 'Sunweb system'. Younger riders often slot into it well - but as rote_laterne points out, it's not a given even there.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #11 on: May 13, 2019, 10:10 »
    https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/deze-zes-toptalenten-staan-in-het-vizier-van-jumbo-visma/

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    The six riders are:

    Bjerg
    Donovan
    Arensman
    Foss
    Leknessund
    Maciejuk

    The bottom four are no surprise. Attracting Bjerg (vs Deceuninck and whoever) would be a great validation of their focus on development.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #12 on: May 13, 2019, 16:59 »
    https://twitter.com/sports_ouest/status/1127954772584218625

    Alaphilippe ----------> #arkea ?

    I wouldn't be holding my breath Mr. Hubert.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #13 on: May 16, 2019, 15:02 »
    I forgot this from yesterday.

    Richeze ----------> #uae

    The rumour according to Hatch is that a 2-year deal is already signed and sealed.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #14 on: May 17, 2019, 00:29 »
    I forgot this from yesterday.

    Richeze ----------> #uae

    The rumour according to Hatch is that a 2-year deal is already signed and sealed.
    Getting Gaviria his Latin American leadout man makes perfect sense. For once, a good signing by ex-Lampre. :P
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #15 on: May 17, 2019, 10:53 »
    I forgot this from yesterday.

    Richeze ----------> #uae

    The rumour according to Hatch is that a 2-year deal is already signed and sealed.

    He'll need a new lead-out man once Kristoff leaves.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #17 on: May 17, 2019, 17:33 »
    Van Gestel ----------> #ag2r or  #astana or #cofidis or #total ?
    Dries who? :P

    Sorry, he's just never crossed my radar.
    I see he a.o. finished 13th in the Ronde this year, which isn't at all bad.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #18 on: May 20, 2019, 13:13 »
    https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2019/05/20/1558284358/androni-sidermec-talenti-in-partenza-masnada-cattaneo-vendrame-savio

    Masnada -----------> #ccc ? (Trek has also been mentioned)
    Cattaneo ----------> #astana ?
    Vendrame ----------> #cofidis ?

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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #20 on: May 28, 2019, 20:44 »
    https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1133264875520712704

    Ballerini ----------> #deceuninck ?
    Vlasov --------------> #astana ?

    Ballerini moving on surprisingly quickly. I thought with Deceuninck needing to find money to keep Alaphilippe, they'd be shopping in the CT/youngsters market instead of going after established riders. Pat got some extra moolah off Specialized?
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #21 on: May 28, 2019, 20:59 »
    https://twitter.com/UnoXteam/status/1133244009416155136

    #coloquick ------------> #unox

    This is the danish deal they have been preparing. Lukas, do you still find this unfeasible as a pro conti team?

    (A former cannondale pro hints at the organization being better run than his former team).
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #23 on: May 29, 2019, 02:03 »
    . . .
    Carapaz ----------> ???
    Well, he's certainly showing the talent to be signed on for good money. But "deep pockets" sounds like Sky/Ineos, and he wouldn't be a leader there, would he. Maybe in another few years.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #24 on: May 29, 2019, 20:53 »
    More #unox rumours:

    #unox Andreas Leknessund ----> #sunweb

    According to agent Manuel Qionziato there are several WT teams interested (#jumbo, #uae mentioned) but Sunweb has clearly been the most keen team to get him on board and maybe prepared to outbid other teams. If he doesn't stay with #unox for one more year, that is.

    It's official Andreas Leknessund going Team Sunweb in 2021.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #25 on: May 29, 2019, 21:14 »
    https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/deze-zes-toptalenten-staan-in-het-vizier-van-jumbo-visma/

    The six riders are:

    Bjerg
    Donovan
    Arensman
    Foss
    Leknessund
    Maciejuk

    The bottom four are no surprise. Attracting Bjerg (vs Deceuninck and whoever) would be a great validation of their focus on development.

    If Jumbo Visma signs Bjerg, Donovan, Arensman, Foss and Maciejuk are good contractions.
    Foss, Arensman and Donovan are mountain mens.
    Bjerg and Maciejuk are men for ITT
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #26 on: May 29, 2019, 21:25 »
    Dries who? :P

    Sorry, he's just never crossed my radar.
    I see he a.o. finished 13th in the Ronde this year, which isn't at all bad.

    Good man for the classics.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #27 on: May 29, 2019, 21:32 »
    https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2019/05/20/1558284358/androni-sidermec-talenti-in-partenza-masnada-cattaneo-vendrame-savio

    Masnada -----------> #ccc ? (Trek has also been mentioned)
    Cattaneo ----------> #astana ?
    Vendrame ----------> #cofidis ?

    Masnada to #trek is a done deal, will go to support Nibali.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #28 on: June 01, 2019, 19:21 »
    https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1134834252531589121

    Alaphilippe -----------> nowhere

    As long he has got renumeration somewhere close to what he's worth, he'd have been crazy to go anywhere else.

    https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1134821305876979714

    Zakarin -------------> #ccc ?

    No Majka then?
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #29 on: June 02, 2019, 20:14 »
    Since search was asking about him the other day,

    https://www.directvelo.com/actualite/74595/quinten-hermans-attend-une-offre-du-worldtour

    Hermans -------------> WT?

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