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Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2019, 10:19 »
The rule doesn't say that this only applies to riders already on a pro deal.

as it says "between two UCI WorldTeams or between a UCI WorldTeam and a UCI professional continental team", I'd think it does
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #61 on: June 12, 2019, 13:24 »
    as it says "between two UCI WorldTeams or between a UCI WorldTeam and a UCI professional continental team", I'd think it does
    Whichever it is (and I'm beyond caring at this point), I think we can all agree that the rule is written to be the exact opposite of clear-cut and easily understood. :angel
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #62 on: June 12, 2019, 15:45 »
    Whichever it is (and I'm beyond caring at this point), I think we can all agree that the rule is written to be the exact opposite of clear-cut and easily understood. :angel
    :lol
    Well, that depends on who's reading the rule! Ask a lawyer! ;)
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #63 on: June 15, 2019, 17:53 »
    https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/john-degenkolb-op-weg-naar-lotto-soudal/

    Der John -----------> #lotto ?

    I put in a ? , but they say it's virtually done. Interesting move anyway.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #65 on: June 18, 2019, 08:31 »
    According to today's Het Nieuwsblad, Viviani will make a decision where to ride next year this week. Lefevere is flying to Switzerland today to talk to him and both would like to keep working together, but not at all costs - and apparently it's a "monster bid" from Cofidis (who also want to sign Sabatini btw).

    Quickstep on the other hand has spent basically all money on Alaphilippe, and Lefevere says he is fine with Hodeg, Jacobsen and potentially the "new Viviani", #seg Alberto Dainese (I guess that's more or less a confirmation that he will join #deceuninck) taking over the sprint duties
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #66 on: June 18, 2019, 10:23 »
    apparently it's a "monster bid" from Cofidis (who also want to sign Sabatini btw).
    They're just repurposing the money that's now spent on Bouhanni, I guess. :P
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    « Reply #67 on: June 18, 2019, 10:31 »
    They're just repurposing the money that's now spent on Bouhanni, I guess. :P
    partly at least, but I don't think 1.5 million a year (which Bouhanni currently gets at Cofidis) would be considered "massive". A couple of weeks ago Gazzetta reported that Bora had offered him 2 million
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #71 on: June 20, 2019, 22:07 »
    Rutsch ----------> #ef
    Decent signing, not too expensive. The typical JV neo-pro. :P

    By the way, @DieZiege3's Twitter account is so new that it's obvious what happened: His new team told him he has to have one, so he made one and connected it to his Instagram account (where he is fairly active).
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #72 on: June 20, 2019, 23:32 »
    #katusha Direk Demol says many of their riders don't have a contract for 2020, so there'll be plenty of changes, and the first priority will be to build up a strong classics team around Nils Politt.

    Apparently Zakarin is likely to stay as well though, and they are also looking for a sprinter to replace Kittel

    https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_115657.htm
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #73 on: June 21, 2019, 06:38 »
    #katusha the first priority will be to build up a strong classics team around Nils Politt.
    Obviously. They'd be idiotic if they didn't. ;)
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #74 on: June 21, 2019, 07:34 »
    yeah, but I can't see that many options on the market, to be honest.

    Azevedo could bring #movistar Nelson Oliveira on board maybe, and Demol may still have some links to Trek, so guys like Felline or Mullen could be an option... or would Degenkolb work for Politt?! With the semi-German focus, he would the perfect choice of course
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #75 on: June 21, 2019, 12:14 »
    Nils Politt
    Laurens de Vreese
    Marco Haller
    Jens Debusschere
    Jasha Sütterlin
    Nelson Oliveira
    Mads Würtz Schmidt

    It would not be a bad team for a Paris Roubaix.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #77 on: June 21, 2019, 19:08 »
    https://www.hln.be/sport/wielrennen/hoger-bod-van-ineos-haalt-het-niet-benoot-bijna-van-sunweb~a57024cd/

    Benoot ------------> #sunweb ?

    Could be a bit of a culture shock for him. Going from summer camp to borstal.

    The article also talks about Matthews possibly leaving Sunweb.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #78 on: June 22, 2019, 08:46 »
    would Degenkolb work for Politt?! With the semi-German focus, he would the perfect choice of course
    LOL, no.
    Degenkolb demands top billing.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #80 on: June 24, 2019, 09:20 »
    https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1143013627340972032

    Martin --------------> #groupama or #cofidis ?

    He has got a contract with Wanty for next year, but there is a get out clause if a WT team comes in with an offer and Wanty can not match it.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #81 on: June 25, 2019, 07:05 »
    https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1143013627340972032

    Martin --------------> #groupama or #cofidis ?

    He has got a contract with Wanty for next year, but there is a get out clause if a WT team comes in with an offer and Wanty can not match it.

    Also, his contract might have a clause that if the Wanty management becomes senile he should be allowed to leave. In the Dauphiné, they demanded that sick riders should finish the race in order to be in contention for the Tou de France selection. 3 mountain stages with a fever and you can be pretty sure they won´t be able to perform at the level required in the TdF.

    (See also: «Dimension Data», «Algarve», «Virus», «Spring Classics», and «Total failure in main season objectives»).

    After the “complete the Dauphiné or no TDF”  the sick riders continued for one more stage before 3 of the sick riders DNFˋed anyway. The management seems to have backed off. Some of the sick riders are selected for TdF now, but this attitude from team management in 2019 from a 95 year old team manager should make any rider with serious ambitions look for the door immediately, as nothing good is going to come from it.  :angry
    Consider how #mitchelton withdrew Yates from a very likely podium, on the last day, and #jumbo Kruijswijk leaving the race: any ser teams don’t compromise TDF goals for a day in the Dauphiné.
    Get out Guillaume!  :cool
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #82 on: June 25, 2019, 07:40 »
    well, Eiking is someone who seems to be sick every second week, so they probably just wanted to test his limits to "suffer through" before having him abandon the Tour after 5 days. Kruijswijk and Yates on the other hand are there to win the race, so that's difficult to compare.

    It's a very oldschool approach for sure, but I don't think it's a too unusual one.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #83 on: June 25, 2019, 09:29 »
    After the “complete the Dauphiné or no TDF”  the sick riders continued for one more stage before 3 of the sick riders DNFˋed anyway. The management seems to have backed off. Some of the sick riders are selected for TdF now, but this attitude from team management in 2019 from a 95 year old team manager should make any rider with serious ambitions look for the door immediately, as nothing good is going to come from it.  :angry
    We all know that Van der Schueren is Hilaire-ious. ;)
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #84 on: June 27, 2019, 08:43 »
    https://twitter.com/MitcheltonSCOTT/status/1144140406873088007

    Peak ----------> #mitchelton

    He'll also ride as a stagiaire with the team from August.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #85 on: June 27, 2019, 10:37 »
    so with Gilbert being left home for the Tour - with a start in Brussels that he would have been a chance at yellow for ...   and with his main goal next season being MSR where Quickstep will be backing Alaphilippe ...

    where is Gilbert going to go?

    Lotto ????
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #86 on: June 27, 2019, 11:25 »
    so with Gilbert being left home for the Tour - with a start in Brussels that he would have been a chance at yellow for ...   and with his main goal next season being MSR where Quickstep will be backing Alaphilippe ...

    where is Gilbert going to go?

    Lotto ????

    https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1144097915096449024

    Lots of options. JSG got his guess in about Arkea in the "Connect the Dots" thread just in time.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #87 on: June 27, 2019, 11:26 »
    Het Nieuwsblad reports that going back to Lotto or Groupama are options for him, yeah. Also Arkea, Cofidis and Dimension Data are interested.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #88 on: June 27, 2019, 12:19 »
    well he is very good friends with both Lotto and FDJ managers so I would have put those up there first ...

    FDJ was his first pro team and he left on exceptionally good terms, he had just outgrown their budget at the time.
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