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Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
« Reply #120 on: July 22, 2019, 09:21 »
https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1153170651571793922

Ardila -----------> #astana ?

He won't be at l'Avenir due to a knee injury.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #121 on: July 22, 2019, 16:46 »
    (tbc)

    #riwal Alexander Kamp
    #riwal Andreas Stokbro
    --> #trek Trek Segafredo

    https://www.procycling.no/ekstra-bladet-trek-segafredo-snuser-pa-dansk-duo/
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #122 on: July 23, 2019, 08:15 »
    https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1153515192845832193

    Dainese -----------> #sunweb ?

    The earlier rumour was him going to Deceuninck. They'll still need another sprinter, so the chances of Bennett heading there are increasing.

    https://twitter.com/cirogazzetta/status/1153546330377244672

    Quarterman -------> #trek ?
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #124 on: July 29, 2019, 11:39 »
    https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2019/07/29/1564388737/total-bonifazio-damiano-cima

    Damiano Cima --------> #total ?

    Bonifazio was the sole ray of light for the team at the Tour, so it's only right that he gets some specific helpers.

    Other areas need strengthening as well. Calmejane and especially Taaramachine were garbage the past three weeks. Money is available if we believe the Alaphilippe and Kristoff rumours from earlier in the season, but I haven't seen any big (or otherwise) climbing names linked with the team.

    https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2019/07/29/1564388416/cofidis.-con-viviani-e-sabatini-consonni?

    Consonni ----------> #cofidis

    I thought he'd done okay on occasion as Gaviria's last man. Richeze will do that next year.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #125 on: July 30, 2019, 16:10 »
    Wow. Ok, then...

    https://twitter.com/nealrogers/status/1156211929943166981

    Had this even been part of the rumor mill? :slow

    Does this explain Quintana's decision?

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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #126 on: July 30, 2019, 20:15 »
    Had this even been part of the rumor mill? :slow

    Katusha merging with someone has definitely been on the table, but I don't think I've seen Arkea linked with it until today.

    https://twitter.com/ollieman56/status/1156272686651387904

    Hubert says it's not true.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #128 on: July 31, 2019, 09:51 »
    #katusha #arkea would be one of the strangest mergers in cycling ever.
    There is next to nothing in terms of common identity between the two - one is a multinational hodgepodge grown out of a Russian-German team, the other a very French team with a few selected foreigners.

    I'll believe it when I see it.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #129 on: July 31, 2019, 12:07 »
    I'll believe it when I see it.

    It sounds to me like you just don't want to make another kit smiley.  :P

    You'd also think that it wouldn't be so difficult for someone like Neal Rogers to confirm such a story before actually reporting on it.  :S
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #130 on: July 31, 2019, 15:26 »
    A merger is necessary as the sale of a WorldTour licence to a third party isn't easily possible.
    I expect the Katusha riders to be released if required and a Politt moves to  #deceuninck
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #132 on: August 01, 2019, 20:33 »

    "According to @lequipe, Irishman Daniel Martin would like to leave   :lol @TeamUAEAbuDhabi to join the ranks of the French team @TDE_ProCycling".

    Martin ----------> #total ?




    Was it the energy drinks fiasco or just the sheer shame of the white shorts kit...

    Although in the fashion stakes not sure Dan's black overshoes at the TDF, giving him something of a DM boot wearer look was necessarily the best sartorial choice...



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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #133 on: August 01, 2019, 23:04 »
    Martin ----------> #total ?
    He started his career at #pomme VC La Pomme Marseille, so he should be reasonably proficient in French.

    This isn't as outrageous a rumour as it might look at first sight.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #135 on: August 02, 2019, 21:08 »
    https://twitter.com/WestemeyerSusan/status/1156795778649788416

    Jumbo could get a bad rep if they make this contract breaking a habit.

    I don't know the ins and outs of Dutch law, but this particular "genie" could come back to bite them. What's to stop riders on their own team getting their heads turned by a large wage increase after a good performance or a disgruntled rider seeing a quick exit to greener pastures?
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #136 on: August 03, 2019, 01:32 »
    yeah it isnt a good precedent to be setting.    Not for a team, and not for a rider either.  If you cannot be trusted to abide by the terms of a contract that you signed, who is going to sign you again?  What are contracts going to be worth?
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #137 on: August 03, 2019, 02:17 »
    If you cannot be trusted to abide by the terms of a contract that you signed, who is going to sign you again?  What are contracts going to be worth?

    Remember when Wiggins was signed to Garmin-Slipstream at the time of Sky's formation?

    JV was not a happy camper at Bradley's request to leave, especially since he had just had his TdF breakout year with Garmin in 2009 when he was 4th at Le Tour.

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    L'Equipe, the French sports newspaper, claimed on Saturday that the new British team's lengthy pursuit of Wiggins has finally paid off, with a deal done ahead of the first Sky training camp, which begins in Manchester today.

    However Jonathan Vaughters, the Garmin general manager, said the report is untrue. "Brad has a contract [with Garmin] for 2010," he told Cycling Weekly. "That is my statement. If [L'Equipe] has such a great source, they should reveal him or her."
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    However, as those regulations are potentially subservient to national employment laws, it means that the rules are not as clear-cut as they seem.





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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #139 on: August 03, 2019, 23:53 »
    exactly the type of rider they need! :cool

    :fp
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #140 on: August 04, 2019, 09:49 »
    If SHE, Minali and Barbier are out the door at the end of the year then it shouldn't be too much of a problem, but that is not guaranteed - we don't know what contracts the latter two signed.

    On the other hand I'd be happy to keep Raim and Avila. Edwin for the exotic races and while Mihkel has had a poor season, he's got enough brownie points in previous years to earn another deal.

    exactly the type of rider they need! :cool

    :fp

    They need a lot of different types.

    A GC rider who can TT
    A puncheur
    A dedicated final guy for Cimolai/Hofstetter
    Deeper strength in the classics team
    More climbers in general are good
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #141 on: August 05, 2019, 08:39 »
    confirmed now:

    #roompot Stijn Steels
    #cofidis Bert van Lerberghe
    --> #deceuninck Deceuninck Quickstep

    https://www.deceuninck-quickstep.com/en/news/4060/deceuninck-quick-step-sign-steels-and-van-lerberghe

    van Lerberghe said he will take a role in the leadout train for Jakobsen and Hodeg. I think we can also regard that as confirmation that Viviani is definitely leaving the team.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #143 on: August 05, 2019, 14:41 »
    https://twitter.com/Bahrain_Merida/status/1158321415071948801

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    Odd choice of a promo photo. Different country, different activity... :slow  :D
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #144 on: August 05, 2019, 15:47 »
    probably the only one they had without a Movistar shirt :D

    The first of the Nippo riders found a new home as well:

    #nippo Giovanni Lonardi --> #bardiani Bardiani CSF

    https://www.bardianicsf.com/wp/en/lonardi-monaco/

    well deserved, after all the good results earlier in the year.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #145 on: August 05, 2019, 16:05 »
    You’d have thought Cofidis would have learned not to put all their eggs in one basket with a sprinter, wouldn’t you?
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #146 on: August 06, 2019, 09:29 »
    https://twitter.com/TeamUAEAbuDhabi/status/1158367116527046656

    Double U23 TT WC and only twenty.

    Am I allowed to feel a bit disappointed though in what he's done the past couple of years at Hagens Berman? For such an engine I would have been expecting him to be a bit more active on non-TT days as well.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #147 on: August 06, 2019, 10:49 »
    You’d have thought Cofidis would have learned not to put all their eggs in one basket with a sprinter, wouldn’t you?

    Albeit on this occasion, it’s appears they aren’t putting all their eggs in one basket case.
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    Re: Mens' transfers and Rumors 2019-20
    « Reply #149 on: August 06, 2019, 23:31 »
    You’d have thought Cofidis would have learned not to put all their eggs in one basket with a sprinter, wouldn’t you?

    Or, they had one of the best sprint trains (certainly at pro conti level but also better than most WT teams) lacking a sprinter. Ignoring Bouhanni´s personality and his ´team within the team´ setup,  involving high salaries for his family members etc, let´s not forget that he has been less than half the man he used to be after the Yorkshire crash. If he had behaved a little differently, maybe his tragedy and suffering would have been more visible, but Bouhanni surely chose to live by the sword.

    The team is just replacing the broken piece in an excellent machine, the way I see it.  :slow
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