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the first three stages of the 2020 Vuelta were presented today, taking place in the Netherlands:

Stage 1 (ITT):


Stage 2:


Stage 3:


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    this one is looking better:

    GRAND DÉPART OF THE TOUR DE FRANCE 2020: SOUTHBOUND

    After Fleurance (1977, 1979), Nice (1981), San Sebastian (1992), Monaco (2009) and Porto-Vecchio (2013), the Tour de France will start from the south for the 7th time as it returns to Nice.

    The first two stages of the 107th edition will consist in two opposite challenges with a course designed for the sprinters as an opener and a climbing festival the next day which should suit the best climbers of the peloton.
     
    The starts from the South of France are among the options offering unusual prospects and scenarios. By hosting the Grand Depart of the 2020 Tour de France, Nice is writing a new chapter of its long history with cycling, which started in 1906 with a first visit by the Tour. For the 100th edition, the town was also asked to provide a superb gateway onto the continent when the peloton reached the mainland from Corsica. Almost 40 years ago, the 1981 edition also started from Nice, where Bernard Hinault made another show of strength and class. The prefecture of the Alpes Maritimes department is also an annual fixture of the cycling calendar with the Race to the Sun, often providing nail-biting finales.
     
    The first stages of the 107th edition should prove just as exciting. While the riders will be forced to raise on their pedals straightaway for the ascent of cote d'Aspremont, the three laps of the circuit designed for the opening stage should normally lead to a bunch sprint on Promenade des Anglais. But the man sporting the Yellow Jersey the next morning will certainly struggle to retain it given the profile of another Nice-Nice stage this time highlighting the hilly profile of the city's hinterland. On the 190 km of the course, the riders will have to tackle col de la Colmiane, col de Turini and Col d'Eze! A fierce battle of climbers on only the second day of the race...
     
    Opening stages of the 2020 Tour de France:

    27/06/2020, stage 1: Nice moyen pays > Nice, 170 km



    28/06/2020, stage 2: Nice haut pays > Nice, 190 km
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    quite an early start there by the way, at the end of June - especially with the one of the Giro rumored to be moved to mid-May
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    quite an early start there by the way, at the end of June - especially with the one of the Giro rumored to be moved to mid-May

    I'm assuming it's olympic games related the race being a week earlier than normal. Will the whole cycling calendar be moved a week earlier to accomodate or will it just be pre tour races like the Dauphine and Suisse held a week earlier than normal.
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    I'm assuming it's olympic games related the race being a week earlier than normal. Will the whole cycling calendar be moved a week earlier to accomodate or will it just be pre tour races like the Dauphine and Suisse held a week earlier than normal.
    If I remember correctly from previous Olympic years, it's 'just' the Tour that moves - causing a ripple effect that results in the national champs and the June races also moving.

    I don't remember the Giro etc. moving, though - so that sets a 'hard limit' to how far the calendar can be pushed.
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    quite an early start there by the way, at the end of June - especially with the one of the Giro rumored to be moved to mid-May

    If I remember correctly from previous Olympic years, it's 'just' the Tour that moves - causing a ripple effect that results in the national champs and the June races also moving.

    I don't remember the Giro etc. moving, though - so that sets a 'hard limit' to how far the calendar can be pushed.

    I've just looked it up and the only time the tour actually moved for the olympics since that was opened up to Pro riders was back in 1996. That was also when the Giro was a week later than it currently is so I'm guessing that the situation will be the same as it was then with of course the other changes to the calendar that have happened in the intervening years.
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    the alleged movement of the Giro was discussed to avoid an overlap with California. Maybe the UCI has realized meanwhile that no one really cares for ATOC anyway though, whatever date it's on.
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    Budapest ist now also officially confirmed to host the start of the 2020 Giro.



    GIRO D’ITALIA 2020 WILL START FROM HUNGARY

    the exact dates and routes are still to be determined though.
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    The pre-TDU "People's Choice Classic" could be replaced by a new Australian WT race on gravel roads on from next year

    https://twitter.com/ridemediaHQ/status/1123172187727249408
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    https://www.uci.org/inside-uci/press-releases/uci-reveals-the-calendars-for-the-2020-uci-worldtour-and-uci-women%E2%80%99s-worldtour

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    The Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkey will not be registered on the 2020 UCI WorldTour calendar. This decision was taken due to the number of UCI WorldTeams taking part in the last two years being less than the minimum of 10 required by the UCI Regulations (2.15.192). Given the quality of the organisation and the importance of the Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkey for the development of cycling, the UCI is nevertheless open to the registration of the event in another class, such as the UCI ProSeries which will be launched in 2020.
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    Good riddance, really. Turkey was never on the level of even the other 'new' WT races.

    Also, the RideLondon Classic will be held on the same day as the Hamburg Cyclassics due to the Olympic Games occupying its usual spot - and the women's RideLondon Classique drops out of the WWT (for 2020, at least) as it would clash with the Ladies Tour of Norway. Instead, the CEGORRW gets the WWT label and becomes the new WWT season opener for the women.
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    I understand the need to move the Tour de France a week earlier but why have they shifted the Vuelta a week earlier?
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    I understand the need to move the Tour de France a week earlier but why have they shifted the Vuelta a week earlier?
    The Giro wouldn't move a week earlier, so they made the Vuelta do it instead? :dizzy
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    Good riddance, really. Turkey was never on the level of even the other 'new' WT races.

    I don't agree, there are few other races that can finish in the smack dab centre of one of the worlds largest cities, and in a country with a population that's growing fast compared with most others around it.  Some of that could also apply to the UAE tour but I think it is more probable that sponsors can make a fortune by selling bikes to Turks than to the Arabs, as the climate in general is more hospitable to cycling. There's also nothing wrong with the terrain on offer, just bring the racers and maintain public safety and it should be a sure sell. An opportunity to push the sport into the spotlight that was sadly missed, partly due to terrorism and war in the neighboring countries.



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    An opportunity to push the sport into the spotlight
    Yes, a cycling tour in Turkey has a lot of potential. But the race hasn't fulfilled that potential.

    It was on a good way, until and including 2015: A route that was sprinter-friendly but also with a mountaintop finish, placed in a similar place before the Giro as the Dauphiné or Tour de Suisse is before the Tour, and with an organisation that was praised all around and attracted a number of WT teams. Then some mugwump decided to commission a new race organisation from the 2016 edition onwards, and things went downhill from there.

    For many years, there had been between 6 and 9 WT teams on the startlist of 20+ teams, with the rest being ProConti teams plus the one Turkish Conti team. In 2016 (still at the late April calendar slot), there were 13 teams, of which only two were WT. 8 were ProConti, the remaining 6 were Conti.

    For 2017 and its first edition on the WorldTour, the race was moved to an unattractive October slot at short notice in the aftermath of the Turkey coup attempt. WT participation increased again to 4 of 13 teams (plus ProContis and a Turkish national team). Someone must have realised that this just wouldn't be enough to keep WT status, so in 2018, there were 9 WT teams out of 20 (the rest ProContis + Turkish national team). The 2019 edition was back in the optimal late April slot, but this also meant overlap with many more races than in October - resulting in 6 WT teams out of a total of 17 (the rest being ProContis + Turkish national team).

    I've collated the startlists all the way back to 2011:
    Year WT PCT CT *tr
    2011 (HC) 6 14 2
    2012 (HC) 9 14 2
    2013 (HC) 9 15 1
    2014 (HC) 9 10 1
    2015 (HC) 6 14 1
    2016 (HC) 2 8 5 1
    2017 (WT) 4 8 1
    2018 (WT) 9 10 1
    2019 (WT) 6 10 1

    The startlist is objectively not as high-profile as it was five years ago - and that's even after a couple of years of recovery from 2016. And yet, the race is now one category higher than it was pre-2017. That simply does not make sense.

    I don't know the exact reasons why this is so - the race not offering the same good (financial and infrastructural) conditions to teams anymore? Teams/riders not wanting to come to Turkey? Calendar clashes? Most likely it's a combination of all those.

    Demoting it to HC status[1] is the logical conclusion, even notwithstanding that a 'new' WT race has to have at least 10 participating WT teams to keep its status.
     1. which we probably should call PS status, in the same way we should say Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
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