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2019 Giro CQ game
« on: May 02, 2019, 23:30 »
Some of you already know all this, and just need the nod to get started, but it is great to have new players.

Your team
You need to name 8 riders who will be on the startline for the Giro, and who have a total CQ value for the 12 months to 5th May (the Sunday before the start) of 3500 or less.  Those prices are as reported in the CQ download published on 6th May.
If you pick a rider who is not on the final startlist, or your team is overbudget, I will use the next cheapest replacement from the same team, or the cheapest rider in the game if that isn't possible.1
There is a spreadsheet available on Dropbox that will help you get your 8 men within budget, and arrange it for submission.

Entering the game
Send your team to me by PM on either Velorooms or Cycling News forums.  If you do not have sufficient posts to your name at CN, then you will find no such restriction at Velorooms. (I sent my team to Koronin on Monday evening, but had to change it when Osorio was removed from the line-up)
Please send your riders' names only (not the price, not their team, preferably not even a following space) in CQ format (Surname then forename, both family names for Spanish and Portuguese riders).  If you use the spreadsheet, that will be easy.
Entries must be sent in before the race starts, which is 16:45 local time on 11th May.  If you don't wait until the last moment, I will have a better chance of warning you if there is a problem with the team.

The game
Your riders will get points for stage positions (70 for the winner, down to 1 for 10th), for starting a stage in the pink jersey (18 points) and for their standings in the points and mountains categories (but not the U25s) with points given on the same scale, and GC standing (ranging from 500 for the leader to 16 for 50th, and 15 for everyone else).  Those standings points can obviously increase or decrease, and gradually become a closer indication of what the final scores will be as the race goes on. 
I will update daily, allowing you to become very optimistic until your top performers eventually drop away and/or withdraw from the race.

There is a secondary competition, which I will do differently from previous years, and for which I will probably try to find some name other than the cyclamen ranking.  Every one of our teams will have a score each day which is the sum of stage points, perhaps pink jersey points, and fluctuations in the three standings competitions: the top ten teams will gain points, in the same scale as stage points, which will comprise the subsidiary competition.  This is similar to the Green points sub-ranking I ran in the recent Spring Classics game.

Enjoy the game, and good luck to your team.


[1]: If 2 riders are joint cheapest, I'll use the first one alphabetically.  With the teams now confirmed, you risk ending up with Sho Hatsuyama of Nippo Vini Fantini.

Entries (to Saturday morning, still 6 and a bit hours from the timestamp of this for last minute entries)
AmisVelo
ArchieBoy
Armchair_Cyclist
BicycleBoy
BikeRacer33
BluesInTheBottle
Bminchow
Carlo_Algatrensig
ChrisDK
Comodoro
Del1962
DJSprtsch
Fauniera
Flo
GodChild
Josedin
JustSomeGuy
Karaev
Kazistuta
Koronin
Laarsland
Leadbelly
LosBrolin
Mellow_Velo
Minessa
Nathanptz
Otoxiep87
Rote_Laterne
SafeBet
Salvarani
Scrool07
Search
Shalgo
Squire
Tobydawq
Torcia86
TotalPackage
Triley36
Vladimir
Will10
Yellow_Knight

If you go 24 hours after sending me your team without seeing it here, it might be worth sending me a follow-up PM or mentioning it on the thread.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 18:40 »
    The price list has been released, 14 teams are confirmed: let the entries flood in...
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 20:31 »
    here is also the startlist including cq values (:cool means confirmed). I may not be able to keep this updated though

    #movistar      MOVISTAR TEAM      :cool      #bora      BORA - HANSGROHE      :cool   
          LANDA MEANA Mikel      557            MAJKA Rafal      789   
          AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey      92            ACKERMANN Pascal      1526   
          CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      842            BENEDETTI Cesare      134   
          CARRETERO MILLAN Hector      76            FORMOLO Davide      735   
          MAS BONET Lluis Guillermo      118            MCCARTHY Jay      180   
          PEDRERO LOPEZ Antonio      93            POLJANSKI Pawel      65   
          ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin      227            SCHWARZMANN Michael      62   
          SÜTTERLIN Jasha      272            SELIG Rüdiger      219   
                2277                  3710   
    #ag2r      AG2R LA MONDIALE      :cool      #ccc      CCC TEAM      :cool   
          GALLOPIN Tony      358            ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo      179   
          BIDARD François      122            CERNY Josef      362   
          DENZ Nico      253            DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor      127   
          DUPONT Hubert      194            GRADEK Kamil      150   
          GASTAUER Ben      77            MARECZKO Jakub      266   
          PETERS Nans      212            OWSIAN Lukasz      225   
          VUILLERMOZ Alexis      340            TEN DAM Laurens      78   
          WARBASSE Larry      140            VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose      45   
                1696                  1432   
    #androni      ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI - SIDERMEC      :cool      #deceuninck      DECEUNINCK - QUICK-STEP      :cool   
          GAVAZZI Francesco      396            VIVIANI Elia      1860   
          BELLETTI Manuel      534            CAPECCHI Eros      80   
          CATTANEO Mattia      571            JUNGELS Bob      943   
          FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo      63            HONORE Mikkel Frølich      71   
          FRAPPORTI Marco      69            KNOX James      262   
          MASNADA Fausto      575            SABATINI Fabio      74   
          MONTAGUTI Matteo      127            SENECHAL Florian      519   
          VENDRAME Andrea      373            SERRY Pieter      339   
                2708                  4148   
    #astana      ASTANA PRO TEAM      :cool      #ef      EF EDUCATION FIRST      :cool   
          LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      1635            MODOLO Sacha      252   
          BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      671            BROWN Nathan      66   
          BOARO Manuele      117            CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever      114   
          CATALDO Dario      278            CARTHY Hugh      448   
          HIRT Jan      195            DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd      212   
          IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion      1291            BRESCHEL Matti      108   
          VILLELLA Davide      344            KANGERT Tanel      283   
          ZEITS Andrey      160            BENNETT Sean      91   
                4691                  1574   
    #bahrain      BAHRAIN - MERIDA      :cool      #groupama      GROUPAMA - FDJ      :cool      
          NIBALI Vincenzo      614            DEMARE Arnaud      942   
          AGNOLI Valerio      28            GUARNIERI Jacopo      68   
          CARUSO Damiano      461            KONOVALOVAS Ignatas      78   
          GAROSIO Andrea      21            LE GAC Olivier      210   
          KOREN Kristjan      92            LUDVIGSSON Tobias      188   
          NIBALI Antonio      81            MADOUAS Valentin      683   
          BOLE Grega      226            SCOTSON Miles      84   
          POZZOVIVO Domenico      975            SINKELDAM Ramon      212   
                2498                  2465   
    #bardiani      BARDIANI CSF      :cool      #academy      ISRAEL CYCLING ACADEMY      :cool   
          BARBIN Enrico      100            CIMOLAI Davide      357   
          CARBONI Giovanni      125            ANDEMESKEL Awet Gebremedhin      45   
          COVILI Luca      12            BOIVIN Guillaume      375   
          MAESTRI Mirco      113            DUNNE Conor      89   
          ORSINI Umberto      10            NEILANDS Krists      282   
          ROTA Lorenzo      81            PLAZA MOLINA Ruben      110   
          SENNI Manuel      38            NIV Guy      94   
          SIMION Paolo      111            SBARAGLI Kristian      316   
                590                  1668   
    #lotto      LOTTO SOUDAL      :cool      #jumbo      TEAM JUMBO - VISMA      :cool   
          EWAN Caleb      589            ROGLIC Primoz      1984   
          CAMPENAERTS Victor      481            BOUWMAN Koen      141   
          DE BUYST Jasper      204            DE PLUS Laurens      352   
          DE GENDT Thomas      368            KUSS Sepp      319   
          HANSEN Adam      92            LEEZER Tom      87   
          KLUGE Roger      140            MARTENS Paul      78   
          VANENDERT Jelle      264            TOLHOEK Antwan      347   
          VAN DER SANDE Tosh      81            VAN EMDEN Jos      266   
                2219                  3574   
    #mitchelton      MITCHELTON - SCOTT      :cool      #katusha      TEAM KATUSHA ALPECIN      :cool      
          YATES Simon      1955            ZAKARIN Ilnur      570   
          BAUER Jack      142            BATTAGLIN Enrico      311   
          BOOKWALTER Brent      233            BIERMANS Jenthe      109   
          CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban      136            HOLLENSTEIN Reto      105   
          DURBRIDGE Luke      219            KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav      183   
          HAMILTON Lucas      361            NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel      272   
          JUUL JENSEN Christopher      208            HALLER Marco      210   
          NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel      461            STRAKHOV Dmitry      171   
                3715                  1938   
    #nippo      NIPPO - VINI FANTINI - FAIZANE'      :cool         #sunweb      TEAM SUNWEB      :cool   
          CANOLA Marco      504            DUMOULIN Tom      2032   
          BAGIOLI Nicola      215            BAKELANTS Jan      136   
          CIMA Damiano      158            HAGA Chad      157   
          LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose      271            HAMILTON Chris      244   
          NISHIMURA Hiroki      35            HINDLEY Jai      152   
          LONARDI Giovanni      119            OOMEN Sam      642   
          HATSUYAMA Sho      10            POWER Robert      287   
          SANTAROMITA Ivan      195            VERVAEKE Louis      58   
                1507                  3708   
    #dimension      TEAM DIMENSION DATA      :cool      #trek      TREK - SEGAFREDO      :cool   
          NIZZOLO Giacomo      461            MOLLEMA Bauke      967   
          DAVIES Scott      64            BRAMBILLA Gianluca      477   
          GASPAROTTO Enrico      275            CICCONE Giulio      419   
          GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul      140            CLARKE William      51   
          GIBBONS Ryan      338            CONCI Nicola      94   
          O'CONNOR Ben      98            GOGL Michael      262   
          RENSHAW Mark      15            IRIZAR ARANBURU Markel      55   
          WYSS Danilo      143            MOSCHETTI Matteo      198   
                1534                  2523   
    #ineos      TEAM INEOS      :cool      #uae      UAE TEAM EMIRATES      :cool   
          DUNBAR Eddie      354            GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      811   
          GEOGHEGAN HART Tao      510            BOHLI Tom      106   
          HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian      114            CONSONNI Simone      324   
          KNEES Christian      60            CONTI Valerio      430   
          SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      647            MARCATO Marco      95   
          NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel      189            MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian      376   
          PUCCIO Salvatore      88            POLANC Jan      497   
          SIVAKOV Pavel      401            ULISSI Diego      728   
                2363                  3367   [/b]
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #3 on: May 09, 2019, 00:32 »
    The start list is now confirmed, barring last minute replacements due to injury or other unforeseen situation.

    11 teams have been entered for the game so far, nominating 36 riders, 5 of whom are on more than half the teams.  One team has the maximum possible popularity ranking at present.

    There have been more riders costing over 700 points selected than costing under 100.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #4 on: May 10, 2019, 01:06 »
    21 teams in so far.  Three riders are way ahead of the rest in terms of popularity, and one of them is an almost universal pick.

    I am out on Saturday and Sunday, so if you want to be warned of any problem with your team and have a chance to change it, I will need to have it by mid-morning on Saturday. 

    It also means that I will probably not do the full listing of teams and analysis until late on Sunday, maybe Monday, and Saturday results might be brief, or delayed.

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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2019, 11:27 »
    This morning's inbox brings the game up to 41 teams so far, with time left for those who like leaving things until the last minute.

    I will only have odd bits of time to get in front of my computer for the next few days, and my poor typing and hit and miss Excel skills mean that I don't produce data very efficiently.

    So team lists, rider popularity tables, similarity of major picks, and even the results of the first couple of stages will on an uncertain schedule, unless...

    If anyone thinks they can make sense of a rather raw version of the spreadsheet, and post some useful data here and on CN, then contact me within the next 20 minutes or so, and I'll give you the dropbox link.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #6 on: May 11, 2019, 18:52 »
    45 teams in the end, 72 different riders

    Riders sorted by price, unique picks have an asterisk


    Amis Velo

       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       VILLELLA Davide   *
       BATTAGLIN Enrico   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Archie Boy
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       MASNADA Fausto   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       CIMOLAI Davide   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       SENNI Manuel   

    Armchair Cyclist

       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       MOSCHETTI Matteo   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       SENNI Manuel   

    Bicycle Boy
       YATES Simon   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       GALLOPIN Tony   
       DUPONT Hubert   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AGNOLI Valerio   

    BikeRacer33
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       GASTAUER Ben   *
       POLJANSKI Pawel   *
       GAROSIO Andrea   
       COVILI Luca   

    Blues in the Bottle
       YATES Simon   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       GAROSIO Andrea   
       RENSHAW Mark   
       ORSINI Umberto   

    Bminchow
       JUNGELS Bob   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       MOSCHETTI Matteo   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   

    Carlo_Algatrensig
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       MASNADA Fausto   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       MODOLO Sacha   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    ChrisDK
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       VUILLERMOZ Alexis   
       PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Comodoro
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       BATTAGLIN Enrico   
       MODOLO Sacha   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Del1962
       MAJKA Rafal   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   

    DJ Sprtsch
       FORMOLO Davide   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       DE PLUS Laurens   *
       CONSONNI Simone   *
       LUDVIGSSON Tobias   *
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   

    Fauniera
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo   

    Flo
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       CIMOLAI Davide   
       HIRT Jan   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    God Child
       DUMOULIN Tom   *
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       MODOLO Sacha   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       SENNI Manuel   
       RENSHAW Mark   
       HATSUYAMA Sho   

    Googolplex
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       SCHWARZMANN Michael   *

    Josedin
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       BATTAGLIN Enrico   
       FRAPPORTI Marco   

    Just Some Guy
       YATES Simon   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       GIBBONS Ryan   
       ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       BARBIN Enrico   *
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       SENNI Manuel   

    Karaev
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       MOSCHETTI Matteo   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       SENNI Manuel   
       AGNOLI Valerio   

    Kazistuta
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       MODOLO Sacha   
       MOSCHETTI Matteo   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   

    Koronin
       BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   *
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CAMPENAERTS Victor   *
       KUSS Sepp   *
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   *
       LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose   *
       DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   *

    Laarsland
       FORMOLO Davide   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       MOSCHETTI Matteo   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Leadbelly
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo   
       PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   
       AGNOLI Valerio   
       COVILI Luca   
       ORSINI Umberto   

    LightBing
       JUNGELS Bob   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       GIBBONS Ryan   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   
       FRAPPORTI Marco   
       SENNI Manuel   

    Los Brolin

       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       MONTAGUTI Matteo   *
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   
       RENSHAW Mark   
       COVILI Luca   

    Mellow Velo
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       CLARKE William   
       COVILI Luca   
       ORSINI Umberto   

    Minessa
       FORMOLO Davide   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       KNOX James   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   

    Nathanptz
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       HALLER Marco   *
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   
       DAVIES Scott   *
       COVILI Luca   

    Otoxiep87
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARUSO Damiano   *
       MARECZKO Jakub   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Premier Andrew
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       HIRT Jan   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Rote Laterne
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   
       AGNOLI Valerio   
       COVILI Luca   

    SafeBet
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo   
       SENNI Manuel   
       HATSUYAMA Sho   

    Salvarani
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CIMOLAI Davide   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       HIRT Jan   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Scrool07
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CIMOLAI Davide   
       MODOLO Sacha   
       NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel   *
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Search
       JUNGELS Bob   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       BATTAGLIN Enrico   
       MODOLO Sacha   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Shalgo
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARBONI Giovanni   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   
       COVILI Luca   
       ORSINI Umberto   

    Squire
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   
       HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       GAROSIO Andrea   
       COVILI Luca   

    Tigerion
       YATES Simon   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       SCOTSON Miles   *
       TEN DAM Laurens   
       CLARKE William   
       HATSUYAMA Sho   

    Tobydawq
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       FORMOLO Davide   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       KNOX James   
       DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   
       TEN DAM Laurens   

    Torcia86
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       FORMOLO Davide   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   *
       SENNI Manuel   

    Total Package
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA Meana Mikel   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   

    Triley36
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       MASNADA Fausto   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       VUILLERMOZ Alexis   
       MARECZKO Jakub   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Vladimir
       FORMOLO Davide   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       GALLOPIN Tony   
       CARBONI Giovanni   
       AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   

    Will10
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       GIBBONS Ryan   
       KANGERT Tanel   
       KNOX James   

    Yellow Knight
       JUNGELS Bob   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ZAKARIN Ilnur   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       DUPONT Hubert   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       RENSHAW Mark   
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    « Reply #7 on: May 11, 2019, 19:26 »
    Eleven of us will be quite happy. :)
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    « Reply #8 on: May 11, 2019, 19:29 »
    2nd and 3rd on the stage so ok ish start
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #9 on: May 11, 2019, 20:11 »
    Probably should have made the game 2886 points to pick 7 riders.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #10 on: May 11, 2019, 21:32 »
    But there are 2 teams who, should Nibali fail somehow, get a 614pt bonus.

    Until about the 18th team came in, I thought I was going to have Roglic as a unique pick.  My thinking was that he would get enough pink jersey points from today until the next GC relevant stage that it won't matter if he doesn't win in the end. 

    Plan working so far.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #11 on: May 11, 2019, 22:43 »
    Until about the 18th team came in, I thought I was going to have Roglic as a unique pick.  My thinking was that he would get enough pink jersey points from today until the next GC relevant stage that it won't matter if he doesn't win in the end. 

    Plan working so far.

    My thoughts exactly, it worked last year with a cheaper pick. I'm curious to know whether picking Landa or Ewan was the better strategy.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #12 on: May 11, 2019, 22:49 »
    Plan actually working better than I had thought.  I'll put up more to explain how these numbers came about presently, but, after Stage 1:

    1   Armchair_Cyclist   1278
    2   Karaev   1236
    3   SafeBet   1220
    4   Nathanptz   1207
    5   Mellow_Velo   1203
    6   BikeRacer33   1190
    7   Rote_Laterne   1187
    8   LosBrolin   1183
    8   Shalgo   1183
    10   Leadbelly   1174
    11   BicycleBoy   1018
    12   BluesInTheBottle   985
    12   JustSomeGuy   985
    14   Tigerion   951
    15   Squire   930
    16   Tobydawq   847
    17   LightBing   788
    18   GodChild   785
    19   Del1962   766
    20   DJSprtsch   741
    21   Carlo_Algatrensig   701
    22   Koronin   697
    23   ChrisDK   689
    24   Flo   685
    25   Will10   676
    26   Googolplex   668
    27   Minessa   666
    28   Fauniera   665
    29   Josedin   654
    30   Vladimir   645
    31   Torcia86   640
    32   Search   626
    33   Bminchow   622
    34   ArchieBoy   614
    35   Yellow_Knight   613
    36   Laarsland   596
    37   Scrool07   581
    38   Salvarani   575
    39   TotalPackage   537
    40   AmisVelo   533
    40   Comodoro   533
    42   Kazistuta   524
    43   PremierAndrew   500
    43   Triley36   500
    45   Otoxiep87   309
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #13 on: May 12, 2019, 01:49 »
    Rider popularity

    43: NIBALI Vincenzo (Out of 45 teams: Otoxiep and Squire are the two who declined him)
    32: LANDA MEANA Mikel
    30: O'CONNOR Ben
    20: EWAN Caleb
    19: ZAKARIN Ilnur (all but one of the Zakarin teams also have Landa)
    18: CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
    11: ROGLIC Primoz
    10: AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey, SIVAKOV Pavel
    All of the above are on the Collective Wisdom, apart from Roglic, who would have put it way over budget.  Without him, it does come up rather underspent, at 3057

    8: COVILI Luca, SENNI Manuel
    7: KANGERT Tanel
    6: FORMOLO Davide, MODOLO Sacha, NIZZOLO Giacomo
    5: CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio, MOSCHETTI Matteo
    4: AGNOLI Valerio, BATTAGLIN Enrico, CIMOLAI Davide, DE GENDT Thomas, GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando, JUNGELS Bob, ORSINI Umberto, PLAZA MOLINA Ruben, RENSHAW Mark, YATES Simon
    3: CICCONE Giulio, GAROSIO Andrea, GEOGHEGAN HART Tao, GIBBONS Ryan, HATSUYAMA Sho, HIRT Jan, KNOX James, MASNADA Fausto
    2: ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo, CARBONI Giovanni, CARTHY Hugh, CLARKE William, DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor, DUPONT Hubert, FLOREZ LOPEZ Miguel Eduardo, FRAPPORTI Marco, GALLOPIN Tony, HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian, MAJKA Rafal, MARECZKO Jakub, SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro, TEN DAM Laurens, VUILLERMOZ Alexis

    and the 22 unique picks are shown above.

    Team popularity
    43 points if you have Nibali, 1 point for any unique pick.

    1   TotalPackage   176
    2   Del1962   174
    3   Laarsland   173
    4   Comodoro   164
    5   AmisVelo   159
    6   PremierAndrew   157
    7   Search   156
    8   Flo   154
    9   Bminchow   153
    10   Kazistuta   149
    11   SafeBet   147
    12   Torcia86   144
    13   Rote_Laterne   142
    13   Salvarani   142
    15   Scrool07   141
    16   Shalgo   140
    17   LosBrolin   139
    18   Triley36   138
    19   ChrisDK   136
    19   Fauniera   136
    19   Mellow_Velo   136
    22   ArchieBoy   135
    23   Karaev   129
    24   Yellow_Knight   128
    25   Googolplex   127
    26   Otoxiep87   126
    27   Minessa   125
    28   Armchair_Cyclist   124
    29   Carlo_Algatrensig   121
    29   DJSprtsch   121
    31   Vladimir   117
    32   Nathanptz   114
    32   Will10   114
    34   JustSomeGuy   109
    35   BluesInTheBottle   108
    35   Leadbelly   108
    37   BicycleBoy   107
    37   Squire   107
    39   BikeRacer33   105
    39   Tigerion   105
    41   Tobydawq   100
    42   GodChild   93
    43   LightBing   91
    44   Koronin   81
    45   Josedin   77
       Collective_Wisdom   182

    Josedin's in the least popular team, but has no unique picks: Koronin's is the most unique team, with 6 otherwise unselected riders.  DJSprtsch, with 3 unique picks, is her nearest challenger in that regard.


    Major picks
    I was going to only include riders more expensive than Nibali in this analysis, but the popularity of Zakarin and Landa led me to include down to them.  The lower threshhold for including riders than I have had in other games means that some teams have as many as 5 of these important buys.

    Dumoulin   with Nibali alone:   God Child                     
                               
    Roglic   with Nibali   and Ewan:   BikeRacer33,   Mellow Velo               
       with Nibali   and Landa:   Leadbelly,   Los Brolin,    Nathanptz,   Rote Laterne,   SafeBet,    Shalgo   
       with Nibali alone:   Armchair Cyclist,   Karaev                  
       with Zakarin   and Landa:   Squire                  
                               
    Yates   with Sosa   and Nibali:   Blues in the Bottle                  
       with Nibali   and Ewan:   Tigerion                  
       with Nibali alone:   Bicycle Boy,   Just Some Guy                  
                               
    Jungels   with Nibali,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Bminchow,    Search,   Yellow Knight         
       with Majka,   Nibali   and Zakarin:   LightBing               
                               
    Carapaz   with Formolo,   Nibali,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Torcia86            
       with Formolo,   Nibali   and Landa:   Tobydawq               
       with Nibali,   Ewan   and Landa:   Scrool07               
       with Nibali,   Masnada   and Landa:   ArchieBoy               
       with Nibali alone:   Josedin                     
                               
    Gaviria   with Nibali,   Ewan,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Total Package            
       with Ewan,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Otoxiep87               
       with Nibali,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Salvarani               
       with Nibali,   Ewan   and Landa:   Googolplex               
                               
    Majka   with Nibali,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Del1962               
                               
    Formolo   with Nibali,   Ewan,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Laarsland            
       with Nibali,   Zakarin   and Landa:   DJ Sprtsch,   Vladimir            
       with Nibali,   Ewan   and Landa:   Minessa               
                               
    Bilbao   with Nibali   and Landa:   Koronin                  
                               
    Sosa   with Nibali,   Zakarin   and Landa:   ChrisDK               
                               
    Nibali   with Ewan,    Masnada   and Landa:   Triley36               
       with Ewan and   Masnada:   Carlo Algatrensig                  
       with Ewan,    Zakarin   and Landa:   Amis Velo,   Comodoro,   Fauniera,   Flo,   Kazistuta,   Premier Andrew
       with Ewan   and Landa:   Will10                  

    Riders in this price bracket who are not chosen are VIVIANI Elia, LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel, ACKERMANN Pascal, IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion, POZZOVIVO Domenico, MOLLEMA Bauke, DEMARE Arnaud, ULISSI Diego, MADOUAS Valentin, OOMEN Sam and CATTANEO Mattia.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #14 on: May 12, 2019, 09:59 »
    Stage 1
    The top 20 riders, omitting those that none of us chose:

    ROGLIC Primoz   698 pts   11 teams
    YATES Simon   480   4
    NIBALI Vincenzo   365   43
    DUMOULIN Tom   260   1
    MAJKA Rafal   244   2
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   200   3
    DE PLUS Laurens   171   1
    CARUSO Damiano   137   1
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   120   1
    DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   112   2
    JUNGELS Bob   104   4
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   96   5
    KANGERT Tanel   90   7
    CICCONE Giulio   85   3
    CARTHY Hugh   84   2
    FORMOLO Davide   74   6


    Quick explanation for anyone new to these games/reminder for the rest: Roglic got 70 points for winning the stage, and 18 for being awarded the pink jersey, that he cannot lose, even if he does not finish the race.  He also is credited with 500 for leading the GC, 70 for leading the points classification, and 40 for current second place in the KoM standings (Ciccone is leading that) 70+18+500+70+40 = 698.(No points for Youth rider standings: hard luck to those with Geoghegan Hart)  But if Roglic drops away in those classifications, he loses some of those projected points, negative points each day can happen.  When we get down to Bilbao in 11th, he has no stage (or  points or mountain standing), but 11th in GC gives 120 projected points, part of a sliding scale that goes down to 16 for 50th.  And every rider below 50th on GC still gets 15 points so, given that nobody chose Nishimura, everyone has at least 8x15=120 points.

    The top ten teams, not surprisingly, are the ten who have Nibali and Roglic: those two alone are worth 1063 at present, enough to beat 11th.  So how the remaining 900 odd points were spent  determines placings, the most relevant back up riders in their team are given here:

    1   Armchair_Cyclist   1278 (Kangert, Chaves, O'Connor)
    2   Karaev   1236 (Chaves, Sivakov, O'Connor)
    3   SafeBet   1220 (Chaves, O'Connor, Landa)
    4   Nathanptz   1207 (O'Connor, Sivakov, Davies)
    5   Mellow_Velo   1203 (Chaves, O'Connor)
    6   BikeRacer33   1190 (Chaves)
    7   Rote_Laterne   1187 (O'Connor, Landa, Plaza)
    8   LosBrolin   1183 (O'Connor, Landa)
    8   Shalgo   1183  (O'Connor, Landa)
    10   Leadbelly   1174 (Landa, Plaza)

    To which information, I can only say, "Come on Tanel"

    Purplish Points
    (because I'm not convinced that 'cyclamen' is used as a colour name in English, and although I'm no horticulturalist, the few pics I googled of that flower are not the colour of that jersey)

    This is equivalent to the Green Jersey points in the Main and the Spring Classics games: the top ten scoring teams each day get points from 70 down to one.  Obviously on stage 1 the standings and the daily points are the same, so those ten teams above get the points, and for Los Brolin and Shalgo the points for 8th and 9th are averaged out between them.

    Armchair_Cyclist   70
    Karaev   40
    SafeBet   25
    Nathanptz   15
    Mellow_Velo   10
    BikeRacer33   7
    Rote_Laterne   5
    LosBrolin   2.5
    Shalgo   2.5
    Leadbelly   1
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #15 on: May 12, 2019, 20:52 »
                                              
    Carapaz   with Formolo,   Nibali,   Zakarin   and Landa:   Torcia86            
       with Formolo,   Nibali   and Landa:   Tobydawq               
       with Nibali,   Ewan   and Landa:   Scrool07               
       with Nibali,   Masnada   and Landa:   Scrool08               
       with Nibali alone:   Josedin                     

    How many Scrools are playing?  ;)

    Thanks for the quick updates even on weekends you are away. I should have read your opening post but do you do this year only the earned points plus projected points without rankings of  stage points and sum of earned points?
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #16 on: May 12, 2019, 21:41 »
    How many Scrools are playing?  ;)
    Oops: I mentioned that I'm a poor typist, and I sometimes drag text rather than retype, and names that incorporate numbers can be a nuisance in that regard.  That should be ArchieBoy: apologies to him


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    Thanks for the quick updates even on weekends you are away. I should have read your opening post but do you do this year only the earned points plus projected points without rankings of  stage points and sum of earned points?
    That's right: the secondary competition has been changed to one based on the position of our teams each day.  It is a table I always produced anyway, but never used, and the guaranteed points were not really independent enough of the overall points to be a separate classification.  We'll see how it goes...
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #17 on: May 12, 2019, 23:34 »
    Stage 2

    Sprinters are a tricky pick in this game: one who dominates the flat stages can sometimes score as well as a top 5 GC contender, but such a rider is usually expensive, and the drop away in returns is dramatic: four stage wins are worth 280 points, but 4 5th places will only get 40 points, and won't be going anything for their GC ranking in the process.

    So Ackermann, Viviani and Demare being unpicked is understandable.  That does mean, however, that points gained are unimpressive today:
    EWAN Caleb   32 pts (25 points on the stage, 7 projected points for lying 6th in the points competition)   20 teams
    FRAPPORTI Marco   20 (position in points and KoM classifications gained on break)   2 teams
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   17   4
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   15 (moved up in GC because De Plus dropped way down the rankings)   1team
    CARUSO Damiano   14   1
    O'CONNOR Ben   14   30
    DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   12   1
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   12   32
    I won't give all the riders in credit most days (there were another 19 today, and that is only among riders who we selected): the threshhold for getting mentioned will vary according to how dramatic the scores on the day are.

    But riders can get negative day scores: Roglic dropped to 3rd in boththe points and KoM classifications today, so dropped 45 and 15 points respectively.  That was mitigated by the 18 points  he got for the pink jersey, but still gives a daily liability of -42.  He was not alone...

    DUMOULIN Tom   -10pts   1 team
    MAJKA Rafal   -15   2
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -20   43
    ROGLIC Primoz   -42   11
    YATES Simon   -45   4
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   -51   1
    DE PLUS Laurens   -153   1


    So compiling those rider score changes for the day, we get each manager's day score:
    1   Otoxiep87   101 (70 Purplish points)
    2   TotalPackage   67 (45)
    3   Googolplex   57 (25)
    4   AmisVelo   56 (15)
    5   Laarsland   54 (10)
    6   Flo   , Scrool07   53 (6 each)
    8   PremierAndrew   51 (3)
    9   Comodoro   50 (2)
    10   Salvarani   49 (1)
    11   ChrisDK, Fauniera, Triley36, Will10   42
    15   Minessa   40
    16   Kazistuta   36
    17   Del1962   35
    18   Tobydawq   33
    19   ArchieBoy, Carlo_Algatrensig   29
    21   Bminchow, Search, Torcia86   26
    24   Josedin, Yellow_Knight   12
    26   Vladimir   8
    27   LightBing   1
    28   Squire   0
    29   Tigerion   -10
    30   Mellow_Velo   -12
    31   GodChild   -22
    32   BikeRacer33   -26
    33   Rote_Laterne   -27
    34   Koronin   -28
    35   SafeBet   -32
    36   BicycleBoy   -34
    37   LosBrolin, Shalgo   -36
    39   Armchair_Cyclist   -38
    40   Karaev   -40
    41   Leadbelly   -41
    42   BluesInTheBottle, JustSomeGuy   -47
    44   Nathanptz   -52
    45   DJSprtsch   -136
       Collective_Wisdom   54

    Purplish points
    We have had two mutually exclusive batches of points so far, for basically a load of tied positions:
    1   Armchair_Cyclist, Otoxiep87   70
    3   Karaev, TotalPackage   40
    5   Googolplex, SafeBet   25
    7   AmisVelo, Nathanptz   15
    9   Laarsland,    Mellow_Velo   10
    11   BikeRacer33   7
    12   Flo, Scrool07   6
    14   Rote_Laterne   5
    15   PremierAndrew   3
    16   LosBrolin, Shalgo   2.5
    18   Comodoro   2
    19   Leadbelly, Salvarani   1

    Standings
    Those who did well yesterday did poorly today, and vice versa, but that also means that there are few GC changes, and that is where the majority of points are found, so the standings are not enormously changed.  Mellow Velo's move from 5th to 3rd might be the most significant, but it is Flo and Laarsland who share the mention for the biggest, 4 place, jump of the day.

    1   Armchair_Cyclist   1240
    2   Karaev   1196
    3   Mellow_Velo   1191
    4   SafeBet   1188
    5   BikeRacer33   1164
    6   Rote_Laterne   1160
    7   Nathanptz   1155
    8   LosBrolin   1147
    8   Shalgo   1147
    10   Leadbelly   1133
    11   BicycleBoy   984
    12   Tigerion   941
    13   BluesInTheBottle   938
    13   JustSomeGuy   938
    15   Squire   930
    16   Tobydawq   880
    17   Del1962   801
    18   LightBing   789
    19   GodChild   763
    20   Flo   738
    21   ChrisDK   731
    22   Carlo_Algatrensig   730
    23   Googolplex   725
    24   Will10   718
    25   Fauniera   707
    26   Minessa   706
    27   Koronin   669
    28   Josedin   666
    28   Torcia86   666
    30   Vladimir   653
    31   Search   652
    32   Laarsland   650
    33   Bminchow   648
    34   ArchieBoy   643
    35   Scrool07   634
    36   Yellow_Knight   625
    37   Salvarani   624
    38   DJSprtsch   605
    39   TotalPackage   604
    40   AmisVelo   589
    41   Comodoro   583
    42   Kazistuta   560
    43   PremierAndrew   551
    44   Triley36   542
    45   Otoxiep87   410
       Collective_Wisdom   624
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #18 on: May 13, 2019, 19:01 »
    Stage 3
    Worked out even better for the Gaviria teams than looked to be the case initially.  Not so good for teams with top 20 GC guys who got caught out in the late crashes, but their losses made space for others to move up on GC.

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   144pts for Googolplex, Otoxiep87, Salvarani and Total Package
    NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   28pts for Koronin
    MOSCHETTI Matteo   25   5 teams
    CARTHY Hugh   22   2
    LUDVIGSSON Tobias   20   1
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   19   19
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   18   18
    FORMOLO Davide   18   6
    SIVAKOV Pavel   18   10
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   17   10
    VILLELLA Davide   17   1
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   15   1
    CARUSO Damiano   15   1
    DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   15   2
    ...
    TEN DAM Laurens   -12   2
    PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   -13   4
    FRAPPORTI Marco   -18   2
    DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   -23   1
    KNOX James   -51   3
    KANGERT Tanel   -69   7
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   -76   5
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   -175   3



    1   Otoxiep87   224 (Not only Gaviria, but 5 others who gained 14 or more on the day) (70 Purplish points again)
    2   TotalPackage   214 (Similar, but lost points due to Nibali) (40)
    3   Salvarani   120 (only 3 others with a double digit gain, but lost lots through Kangert) (25)
    4   Googolplex   117 (15)
    5   Bminchow   110 (10)
    6   Laarsland   96 (7)
    7   DJSprtsch   84 (5)
    8   Kazistuta, Vladimir   77 (2.5 each)
    10   AmisVelo   70 (1)
    11   Search   69
    12   Del1962, Karaev   68
    14   Yellow_Knight   66
    15   Squire   60
    16   Comodoro   54
    17   Nathanptz, PremierAndrew   42
    19   Triley36   41
    20   SafeBet   39
    21   LosBrolin   38
    21   Shalgo   38
    23   GodChild   32
    24   Koronin   29
    25   BicycleBoy, Rote_Laterne   25
    27   BluesInTheBottle, JustSomeGuy   24
    29   LightBing   19
    30   Mellow_Velo   18
    31   BikeRacer33   4
    32   Leadbelly   -6
    33   Tigerion   -13
    34   Torcia86   -16
    35   Armchair_Cyclist   -19
    36   Fauniera   -30
    37   ArchieBoy   -31
    38   Scrool07   -51
    39   Josedin   -69
    40   Minessa   -83
    41   Will10   -96
    42   Flo   -137
    43   Carlo_Algatrensig   -146
    44   ChrisDK   -162
    45   Tobydawq   -166
       Collective_Wisdom   88

    Purplish points

    Two wins in a row: maybe the lack of Nibali from Otoxiep's team was a masterstroke.
    Salvarani mmoves into the top ten and Bminchow goes from zero to almost in the top ten.

    1   Otoxiep87   140
    2   TotalPackage   80
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   70
    4   Googolplex   40
    4   Karaev   40
    6   Salvarani   26
    7   SafeBet   25
    8   Laarsland   17
    9   AmisVelo   16
    10   Nathanptz   15
    11   Bminchow   10
    11   Mellow_Velo   10


    Standings
    Kangert finishing in the Carapaz group at 46 seconds was enough to know me off my perch, Sivakov remaining aamong the front group to give Karaev the lead.  SafeBet moves from 4th to 2nd, and Nathanptz, Los Brolin and Shalgo each move up 2 among the top ten, which remains dominated by the Roglic/Nibali combo.  The top 5 in the day rankings all have double figure improvements in their positions, with the 21 place leap by Total Package being the biggest.
    1   Karaev   1264
    2   SafeBet   1227 
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   1221
    4   Mellow_Velo   1209
    5   Nathanptz   1197
    6   LosBrolin   1185
    6   Rote_Laterne   1185
    6   Shalgo   1185
    9   BikeRacer33   1168
    10   Leadbelly   1127
    11   BicycleBoy   1009
    12   Squire   990
    13   BluesInTheBottle   962
    13   JustSomeGuy   962
    15   Tigerion   928
    16   Del1962   869
    17   Googolplex   842
    18   TotalPackage   818
    19   LightBing   808
    20   GodChild   795
    21   Bminchow   758
    22   Laarsland   746
    23   Salvarani   744
    24   Vladimir   730
    25   Search   721
    26   Tobydawq   714
    27   Koronin   698
    28   Yellow_Knight   691
    29   DJSprtsch   689
    30   Fauniera   677
    31   AmisVelo   659
    32   Torcia86   650
    33   Comodoro   637
    33   Kazistuta   637
    35   Otoxiep87   634
    36   Minessa   623
    37   Will10   622
    38   ArchieBoy   612
    39   Flo   601
    40   Josedin   597
    41   PremierAndrew   593
    42   Carlo_Algatrensig   584
    43   Scrool07   583
    43   Triley36   583
    45   ChrisDK   569
       Collective_Wisdom   712

    The spreadsheet is available at Dropbox, and the updated version of it will be there every evening even if I don't post the link in every stage summary.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #19 on: May 14, 2019, 00:16 »
    Well that's a nuisance.

    I had downloaded all the rankings before I went out at about 7pm, although I didn't post the info until I got back at 9:30: how was I supposed to know that they made a mid-evening decision to dock Viviani 50 points?
    So the following riders are the following number of points better off, by virtue of moving up the points rankings (he is low enough in GC for it not to make a difference to anyone's score there):
    Moschetti Matteo   5
    Yates Simon  3
    Roglič Primož   2
    Cimolai Davide   2
    Nizzolo Giacomo   1
    López Miguel Ángel  1
    Ewan Caleb   1

    Which means the day scores are now:
    1   Otoxiep87   225
    2   TotalPackage   215
    3   Salvarani   122
    4   Googolplex   118
    5   Bminchow   115
    6   Laarsland   102
    7   DJSprtsch, Kazistuta   84
    9   Vladimir   77
    10   Karaev   75
    11   AmisVelo   71
    12   Del1962, Search   69
    14   Yellow_Knight   67
    15   Squire   62
    16   Comodoro   55
    17   Nathanptz, PremierAndrew   44
    19   Triley36   43
    20   SafeBet   41
    21   LosBrolin, Shalgo   40
    23   GodChild   32
    24   Koronin   29
    25   BicycleBoy   28
    26   BluesInTheBottle, JustSomeGuy, Rote_Laterne   27
    29   Mellow_Velo   21
    30   LightBing   19
    31   BikeRacer33   7
    32   Leadbelly   -4
    33   Tigerion   -9
    34   Armchair_Cyclist   -12
    35   Torcia86   -16
    36   ArchieBoy, Fauniera   -29
    38   Scrool07   -48
    39   Josedin   -68
    40   Minessa   -82
    41   Will10   -95
    42   Flo   -134
    43   Carlo_Algatrensig   -144
    44   ChrisDK   -161
    45   Tobydawq   -166
       Collective_Wisdom   89

    So the Purplish point standings are:
    1   Otoxiep87   140
    2   TotalPackage   80
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   70
    4   Karaev   41
    5   Googolplex   40
    6   Salvarani   26
    7   SafeBet   25
    8   Laarsland   17
    9   AmisVelo   15
    9   Nathanptz   15
    11   Bminchow   10
    11   Mellow_Velo   10
    The changes gave Karaev 10th on the day, pushing him ahead of Googolplex in this amendment, and removing the differential between Amis Velo and Nathanptz

    And the overall standings are now:
    1   Karaev   1271
    2   SafeBet   1229
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   1228
    4   Mellow_Velo   1212
    5   Nathanptz   1199
    6   LosBrolin   1187
    6   Rote_Laterne   1187
    6   Shalgo   1187
    9   BikeRacer33   1171
    10   Leadbelly   1129
    11   BicycleBoy   1012
    12   Squire   992
    13   BluesInTheBottle   965
    13   JustSomeGuy   965
    15   Tigerion   932
    16   Del1962   870
    17   Googolplex   843
    18   TotalPackage   819
    19   LightBing   808
    20   GodChild   795
    21   Bminchow   763
    22   Laarsland   752
    23   Salvarani   746
    24   Vladimir   730
    25   Search   721
    26   Tobydawq   714
    27   Koronin   698
    28   Yellow_Knight   692
    29   DJSprtsch   689
    30   Fauniera   678
    31   AmisVelo   660
    32   Torcia86   650
    33   Kazistuta   644
    34   Comodoro   638
    35   Otoxiep87   635
    36   Minessa   624
    37   Will10   623
    38   ArchieBoy   614
    39   Flo   604
    40   Josedin   598
    41   PremierAndrew   595
    42   Carlo_Algatrensig   586
    42   Scrool07   586
    44   Triley36   585
    45   ChrisDK   570
       Collective_Wisdom   713

    The only actual change in order is that Kazistuta is ahead of, rather than level with, Comodoro in 33rd.

    Hope they don't do many of these late adjustments...
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #20 on: May 14, 2019, 18:50 »
    Stage 4
    Another reduced sprint stage that gets blown apart by last 10km accidents, to rather more catastrophic effect than yesterday.  On the other hand, some of yesterday's losers get points back.

    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   141pts   5 teams
    EWAN Caleb   76   20
    FORMOLO Davide   39   6
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   32   19
    VUILLERMOZ Alexis   31   2
    JUNGELS Bob   30   4
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   29   3
    GALLOPIN Tony   28   2
    DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   25   1
    ...
    DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   -15   2
    MOSCHETTI Matteo   -15   5
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   -17   10
    O'CONNOR Ben   -24   30
    LUDVIGSSON Tobias   -31   1
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   -38   1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   -51   4
    NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   -90   1
    DUMOULIN Tom   -225   1


    The top two on the day both gain from Carapaz and lose through O'Connor, but while Scrool had Ewan, Torcia's other gains were from Formolo and Zakarin.

    1   Scrool07, Torcia86   190  (55 Purplish points each)
    3   Tobydawq   178 (Carapaz and Formolo, but Carapaz) (25 P pts)
    4   Josedin   169 (Carapaz and Frapporti) (15)
    5   Laarsland   132 (10)
    6   Fauniera   129 (7)
    7   ArchieBoy   122 (5)
    8   ChrisDK, Kazistuta   114 (2.5 each)
    10   BikeRacer33   113 (1)
    11   Minessa   111
    12   Flo   110
    13   Vladimir   105
    14   AmisVelo   104
    15   Comodoro   94
    16   Del1962, Mellow_Velo   89
    18   Will10   87
    19   Carlo_Algatrensig   86
    20   PremierAndrew, Yellow_Knight   83
    22   Triley36   82
    23   LightBing   72
    24   DJSprtsch   64
    25   Search   62
    26   Otoxiep87   57
    27   Googolplex   52
    28   Tigerion   43
    29   TotalPackage   40
    30   Leadbelly   24
    31   BicycleBoy   17
    32   Bminchow   16
    33   SafeBet   15
    34   Squire   10
    35   Armchair_Cyclist   9
    36   Karaev   6
    37   JustSomeGuy   2
    38   Shalgo   -3
    39   BluesInTheBottle   -11
    40   Nathanptz   -18
    41   LosBrolin, Rote_Laterne   -24
    43   Salvarani   -35
    44   Koronin   -101
    45   GodChild   -195
       Collective_Wisdom   99


    Purplish points
    The joint winners today appear in 4th and 5th (Scrool already had some points, Torcia didn't), as does, just, Tobydawq
    1   Otoxiep87   140
    2   TotalPackage   80 
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   70
    4   Scrool07   61
    5   Torcia86   55
    6   Karaev   41
    7   Googolplex   40
    8   Laarsland   27
    9   Salvarani   26
    10   SafeBet   25
    10   Tobydawq   25

    Standings
    The two teams that have Roglic, Nibali and Ewan rise to the top, Mellow Velo coming from 4th to top spot, and BikeRacer33 jumping 7 places to second.  BicycleBoy is the only non-Roglic team over 1000 points (Yates, Nibali, Gallopin and Chaves being the main contributors).  Three teams had a double digit improvement in position, Scrool07 going up 15.

    1   Mellow_Velo   1301
    2   BikeRacer33   1284
    3   Karaev   1277
    4   SafeBet   1244
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   1237
    6   Shalgo   1184
    7   Nathanptz   1181
    8   LosBrolin   1163
    8   Rote_Laterne   1163
    10   Leadbelly   1153
    11   BicycleBoy   1029
    12   Squire   1002
    13   Tigerion   975
    14   JustSomeGuy   967
    15   Del1962   959
    16   BluesInTheBottle   954
    17   Googolplex   895
    18   Tobydawq   892
    19   Laarsland   884
    20   LightBing   880
    21   TotalPackage   859
    22   Torcia86   840
    23   Vladimir   835
    24   Fauniera   807
    25   Search   783
    26   Bminchow   779
    27   Scrool07   776
    28   Yellow_Knight   775
    29   Josedin   767
    30   AmisVelo   764
    31   Kazistuta   758
    32   DJSprtsch   753
    33   ArchieBoy   736
    34   Minessa   735
    35   Comodoro   732
    36   Flo   714
    37   Salvarani   711
    38   Will10   710
    39   Otoxiep87   692
    40   ChrisDK   684
    41   PremierAndrew   678
    42   Carlo_Algatrensig   672
    43   Triley36   667
    44   GodChild   600
    45   Koronin   597
       Collective_Wisdom   812
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #21 on: May 15, 2019, 18:42 »
    Stage 5
    A bit of a damp squib, and a very damp squib at that.  The early time taking probably contributed to the almost total lack of GC position change, so points for the stage are the main element today, along with pink jersey points and some shuffling of the points classification.

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   55pts   4 teams
    EWAN Caleb   20   20
    MOSCHETTI Matteo   17   5
    ROGLIC Primoz   16   11
    GIBBONS Ryan   7   3
    ...
    MAJKA Rafal   -2   2
    YATES Simon   -3   4
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   -5   5
    DUMOULIN Tom   -15   1


    1   Googolplex, Otoxiep87, TotalPackage   75 (Gaviria and Ewan) (45 Purplish points each)
    4   Salvarani   55 (Gaviria) (15)
    5   Kazistuta, Laarsland   37 (Ewan & Moschetti) (8.5)
    7   BikeRacer33, Mellow_Velo   36 (Ewan & Roglic) (4)
    9   Armchair_Cyclist, Karaev   33 (Roglic & Moschetti) (1.5)
    11   Will10   27
    12   AmisVelo, Carlo_Algatrensig, ChrisDK, Comodoro, Fauniera, Flo, Minessa, PremierAndrew, Triley36   20
    21   Del1962   18
    22   Bminchow, Tigerion   17
    24   Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Rote_Laterne, SafeBet, Shalgo, Squire   16
    31   Scrool07   15
    32   LightBing   5
    33   JustSomeGuy   4
    34   DJSprtsch, Koronin, Search, Vladimir, Yellow_Knight   0
    39   BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, ArchieBoy, Josedin, Tobydawq, Torcia86   -5
    45   GodChild   -15
       Collective_Wisdom   20


    GodChild sees 58% of his budget step off after 1 km...

    Purplish points
    Googolplex moves up from 7th to make the three prize sharers of today the top three: Salvarani also makes progress within the top ten, and Kazistuta has the best jump (19th to joint 12th)
    1   Otoxiep87   185
    2   TotalPackage   125
    3   Googolplex   85
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   71.5
    5   Scrool07   61
    6   Torcia86   55
    7   Karaev   42.5
    8   Salvarani   41
    9   Laarsland   35.5
    10   SafeBet   25
    10   Tobydawq   25

    Standings
    Only minor gains and losses, so not much change: Armchair Cyclist is the only rider moving forward in the top ten, and only by one place, although Otoxiep gets an 8 place improvement.

    1   Mellow_Velo   1337
    2   BikeRacer33   1320
    3   Karaev   1310
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   1270
    5   SafeBet   1260
    6   Shalgo   1200
    7   Nathanptz   1197
    8   LosBrolin   1179
    8   Rote_Laterne   1179
    10   Leadbelly   1169
    11   BicycleBoy   1026
    12   Squire   1018
    13   Tigerion   992
    14   Del1962   977
    15   JustSomeGuy   971
    16   Googolplex   970
    17   BluesInTheBottle   951
    18   TotalPackage   934
    19   Laarsland   921
    20   Tobydawq   887
    21   LightBing   885
    22   Torcia86   835
    22   Vladimir   835
    24   Fauniera   827
    25   Bminchow   796
    26   Kazistuta   795
    27   Scrool07   791
    28   AmisVelo   784
    29   Search   783
    30   Yellow_Knight   775
    31   Otoxiep87   767
    32   Salvarani   766
    33   Josedin   762
    34   Minessa   755
    35   DJSprtsch   753
    36   Comodoro   752
    37   Will10   737
    38   Flo   734
    39   ArchieBoy   731
    40   ChrisDK   704
    41   PremierAndrew   698
    42   Carlo_Algatrensig   692
    43   Triley36   687
    44   Koronin   597
    45   GodChild   585
       Collective_Wisdom   832

    The top two share 5 of their riders; it is O'Connor, Clarke and Orsini for Mellow Velo against Gastauer, Poljanski and Garioso for BikeRacer33.

    Tomorrow should see a number of riders who don't really belong in the GC top 30 drop down, so we might begin to get a better idea of how those cheaper "He might get a few GC points" type picks are going to contribute.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #22 on: May 16, 2019, 16:35 »
    Hmm: this will be a fairly substantial change in the update...
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #23 on: May 16, 2019, 18:51 »
    Stage 6

    L'Aquila-esque on the eve of L'Aquila.

    If anyone had included Conti, that woiuld have been a 538 point gain on the day.  Only 5 selected riders in profit, there were a few who lost less than 20 not shown.

    CARBONI Giovanni   364   2 (Shalgo and Vladimir)
    MASNADA Fausto   287   3 (ArchieBoy, Carlo A and Triley)
    ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo   194   2 (JSG, Leadbelly)
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   137   10
    PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   24   4
    ...
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   -20   32
    VUILLERMOZ Alexis   -20   2
    EWAN Caleb   -27   20
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   -28   19
    SIVAKOV Pavel   -30   10
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   -34   5
    GALLOPIN Tony   -38   2
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -42   18
    CARTHY Hugh   -48   2
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   -54   1
    DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   -60   2
    FORMOLO Davide   -73   6
    JUNGELS Bob   -84   4
    CARUSO Damiano   -95   1
    MAJKA Rafal   -138   2
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -219   43
    YATES Simon   -278   4
    ROGLIC Primoz   -392   11



    1   Vladimir   123 (Carboni and Amador, but Nibali and 4 others who dropped) (70 Purplish points)
    2   Triley36   -7 (Nibali the only big loser to cancel out Masnada: same with the other 2 in single figure losses) (40)
    3   Carlo_Algatrensig   -13  (25)
    4   ArchieBoy   -24 (15)
    5   Shalgo   -138 (Carboni and Amador, more than cancelled out by Roglic and Nibali)  (10)
    6   TotalPackage   -207 (7)
    7   Minessa   -214 (5)
    8   Otoxiep87   -220 (3)
    9   Bminchow   -252 (2)
    10   ChrisDK   -286 (1)
    11   Salvarani   -287
    12   GodChild   -291
    13   Josedin   -301
    14   PremierAndrew   -302
    15   Koronin   -306
    16   Scrool07   -308
    17   Flo   -318
    18   Will10   -329
    19   Comodoro   -332
    20   Fauniera   -336
    20   Kazistuta   -336
    22   Del1962   -345
    23   AmisVelo   -348
    24   LightBing   -353
    25   JustSomeGuy   -356
    26   Googolplex   -368
    27   DJSprtsch   -382
    27   Torcia86   -382
    29   Yellow_Knight   -393
    30   Search   -401
    31   Leadbelly   -413
    32   Laarsland   -417
    33   Tobydawq   -433
    34   Rote_Laterne   -478
    35   LosBrolin   -502
    36   Squire   -508
    37   Nathanptz   -512
    38   BluesInTheBottle   -547
    38   Tigerion   -547
    40   BicycleBoy   -561
    41   Armchair_Cyclist   -673
    42   BikeRacer33   -680
    43   SafeBet   -681
    44   Mellow_Velo   -688
    45   Karaev   -691
       Collective_Wisdom   -237


    Purplish points
    Vladimir only had 2 points before today, and -7 points is enough to take Triley from no score to the top ten.
    1   Otoxiep87   188
    2   TotalPackage   132
    3   Googolplex   85
    4   Vladimir   72
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   71.5
    6   Scrool07   61
    7   Torcia86   55
    8   Karaev   42.5
    9   Salvarani   41
    10   Triley36   40

    12 teams still not off the mark in this one.


    Standings
    In a few days, we might return to something like the table was yesterday, but for now, it is very different.  Shalgo is the only one of the top ten this morning who had 2 of today's positive riders (Carboni and Amador), and goes from 6th to top.  The only others who retain a top ten place are Leadbelly (through Antunes), and Nathanptz, Rote Laterne and Los Brolin (all courtesy of Amador). The top 5 this morning were the bottom 5 in today's scores, and now find themselves in the 11th to 18th range. 

    Vladimir goes from 22nd to second.  Of the new entrants in the top ten, three have jumped more than 30 places.  A 33 place rise is not enough to give Carlo Algatrensig the climber laurels, nor is 34 places for ArchieBoy: it is Triley who gets that honour, moving 35 places.


    1   Shalgo   1062
    2   Vladimir   958
    3   Leadbelly   756
    4   TotalPackage   727
    5   ArchieBoy   707
    6   Rote_Laterne   701
    7   Nathanptz   685
    8   Triley36   680
    9   Carlo_Algatrensig   679
    10   LosBrolin   677
    11   Mellow_Velo   649
    12   BikeRacer33   640
    13   Del1962   632
    14   Karaev   619
    15   JustSomeGuy   615
    16   Googolplex   602
    17   Armchair_Cyclist   597
    18   SafeBet   579
    19   Otoxiep87   547
    20   Bminchow   544
    21   Minessa   541
    22   LightBing   532
    23   Squire   510
    24   Laarsland   504
    25   Fauniera   491
    26   Scrool07   483
    27   Salvarani   479
    28   BicycleBoy   465
    29   Josedin   461
    30   Kazistuta   459
    31   Tobydawq   454
    32   Torcia86   453
    33   Tigerion   445
    34   AmisVelo   436
    35   Comodoro   420
    36   ChrisDK   418
    37   Flo   416
    38   Will10   408
    39   BluesInTheBottle   404
    40   PremierAndrew   396
    41   Search   382
    41   Yellow_Knight   382
    43   DJSprtsch   371
    44   GodChild   294
    45   Koronin   291
       Collective_Wisdom   595
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #24 on: May 16, 2019, 21:28 »
    Nice to see your cheaper picks Amador and Plaza scoring.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #25 on: May 17, 2019, 18:30 »
    Stage 7
    Another breakaway, although to rather less dramatic effect.  The long term effect of today's winner gaining time might be greater than yesterday's though.

    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   133 pts for Koronin
    GALLOPIN Tony   84   for Bicycle Boy and Vladimir
    FORMOLO Davide   67   for  DJ Sprtsch, Laarsland, Minessa, Tobydawq, Torcia86 and Vladimir
    EWAN Caleb   10 for 20 teams
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   9   5
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   8   3
    VILLELLA Davide   8   1
    VUILLERMOZ Alexis   8   2
    ...
    NIBALI Vincenzo   -12   43
    ROGLIC Primoz   -13   11
    YATES Simon   -14   4
    DE PLUS Laurens   -15   1
    MODOLO Sacha   -15   6
    CARUSO Damiano   -55   1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   -55   4
    CARBONI Giovanni   -68   2

    Gaviria at least leaves his 4 teams with 125 stage points, so some compensation there.


    1   Koronin   134 (70 Purplish points)
    2   Laarsland, Vladimir   81 (32.5)
    4   Torcia86   78 (15)
    5   Minessa   77 (10)
    6   Tobydawq   76 (7)
    7   BicycleBoy   62 (5)
    8   DJSprtsch   52 (3)
    9   AmisVelo   24 (2)
    10   ChrisDK   22 (1)
    11   Flo   20
    12   Fauniera   18
    13   Triley36   16
    14   PremierAndrew   12
    15   ArchieBoy   11
    16   Del1962   10
    17   Will10   9
    18   Squire   6
    19   Bminchow   2
    19   Scrool07   2
    21   Comodoro   1
    22   Carlo_Algatrensig   -1
    23   Josedin, Yellow_Knight   -4
    25   Kazistuta   -5
    26   Armchair_Cyclist   -8
    27   Mellow_Velo   -9
    28   LosBrolin   -10
    29   Tigerion   -12
    30   BikeRacer33, SafeBet   -13
    32   Karaev, Search   -15
    34   Nathanptz, Rote_Laterne   -17
    36   BluesInTheBottle   -20
    37   GodChild, Leadbelly   -21
    39   JustSomeGuy   -23
    40   LightBing   -24
    41   Googolplex, TotalPackage   -41
    43   Salvarani   -47
    44   Shalgo   -83
    45   Otoxiep87   -84
       Collective_Wisdom   18

    Purplish Points

    Koronin shows how high a day win will get you from zero score, Laarsland re-enters the top ten, and Vladimir gets onto the virtual podium.
    1   Otoxiep87   188
    2   TotalPackage   132
    3   Vladimir   104.5
    4   Googolplex   85
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   71.5
    6   Koronin   70
    6   Torcia86   70
    8   Laarsland   68
    9   Scrool07   61
    10   Karaev   42.5


    Standings

    Yesterday's top two had a good margin by virtue of having Carboni in second place: he has fallen to third, but that does not diminish their margin much.  Vladimir has the men second and third across the line today, so that puts him in the lead.  ArchieBoy, Triley and Carlo Algatrensig all move the right direction in the top ten, and Tobydawq takes a ten place jump.

    1   Vladimir   1039
    2   Shalgo   979
    3   Leadbelly   735
    4   ArchieBoy   718
    5   Triley36   696
    6   TotalPackage   686
    7   Rote_Laterne   684
    8   Carlo_Algatrensig   678
    9   Nathanptz   668
    10   LosBrolin   667
    11   Del1962   642
    12   Mellow_Velo   640
    13   BikeRacer33   627
    14   Minessa   618
    15   Karaev   604
    16   JustSomeGuy   592
    17   Armchair_Cyclist   589
    18   Laarsland   585
    19   SafeBet   566
    20   Googolplex   561
    21   Bminchow   546
    22   Torcia86   531
    23   Tobydawq   530
    24   BicycleBoy   527
    25   Squire   516
    26   Fauniera   509
    27   LightBing   508
    28   Scrool07   485
    29   Otoxiep87   463
    30   AmisVelo   460
    31   Josedin   457
    32   Kazistuta   454
    33   ChrisDK   440
    34   Flo   436
    35   Tigerion   433
    36   Salvarani   432
    37   Koronin   425
    38   DJSprtsch   423
    39   Comodoro   421
    40   Will10   417
    41   PremierAndrew   408
    42   BluesInTheBottle   384
    43   Yellow_Knight   378
    44   Search   367
    45   GodChild   273
       Collective_Wisdom   613
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #26 on: May 18, 2019, 17:17 »
    Stage 8
    Very little other than the stage points today: highest GC change is 32nd.

    EWAN Caleb   70   20
    FRAPPORTI Marco   14   2
    CIMOLAI Davide   5   4
    DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   4   1
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   4   3
    KANGERT Tanel   4   7
    O'CONNOR Ben   4   30
    CICCONE Giulio   3   3
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   2   6
    HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian   1   2
    ...
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   -1   1
    ROGLIC Primoz   -1   11
    MASNADA Fausto   -2   3
    CARBONI Giovanni   -4   2
    PLAZA MOLINA Ruben   -7   4
    VILLELLA Davide   -10   1

    1   Flo   83 (Ewan, Geoghegan, O'Connor and Cimolai) (70 Purplish points)
    2   Scrool07   79 (40)
    3   Carlo_Algatrensig   78 (25)
    4   Fauniera   77 (15)
    5   PremierAndrew   76 (10)
    6   Comodoro, Del1962, Googolplex, Laarsland, Minessa, Otoxiep87, Tigerion, TotalPackage, Triley36, Will10   74 (1.8 easch)
    16   Mellow_Velo   73
    17   Kazistuta   72
    18   ChrisDK   71
    19   BikeRacer33   69
    20   AmisVelo   64
    21   Josedin   19
    22   LightBing   14
    23   Salvarani   13
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   8
    25   ArchieBoy   7
    26   BluesInTheBottle, Bminchow, JustSomeGuy, Search, Squire, Tobydawq, Torcia86   4
    33   Karaev, Koronin, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, SafeBet   3
    38   Yellow_Knight   2
    39   DJSprtsch, GodChild   0
    41   Shalgo, Vladimir   -1
    43   BicycleBoy   -3
    44   Rote_Laterne   -4
    45   Leadbelly   -8
       Collective_Wisdom   74


    Purplish points

    Flo, as day winner, crashes into the top ten, although that will not necessarily be the case after tomorrow.  Scrool jumps from 9th to 4th.
    1   Otoxiep87   189.8
    2   TotalPackage   133.8
    3   Vladimir   104.5
    4   Scrool07   101
    5   Googolplex   86.8
    6   Flo   76
    7   Armchair_Cyclist   71.5
    8   Koronin   70
    8   Torcia86   70
    10   Laarsland   69.8

    Standings

    On a day of low scores, the top two were never going to be threatened, but in the congested area below, any team with Evans is likely to have moved up, including Triley36, Total Package and Carlo Algatrensig into 3rd, 4th and 5th respectively, and Del1962, Mellow Velo and BikeRacer33 into the top ten.  The biggest risers are Fauniera and Scrool07 (6 spots).

    1   Vladimir   1038
    2   Shalgo   978
    3   Triley36   770
    4   TotalPackage   760
    5   Carlo_Algatrensig   756
    6   Leadbelly   727
    7   ArchieBoy   725
    8   Del1962   716
    9   Mellow_Velo   713
    10   BikeRacer33   696
    11   Minessa   692
    12   Rote_Laterne   680
    13   Nathanptz   671
    14   LosBrolin   670
    15   Laarsland   659
    16   Googolplex   635
    17   Karaev   607
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   597
    19   JustSomeGuy   596
    20   Fauniera   586
    21   SafeBet   569
    22   Scrool07   564
    23   Bminchow   550
    24   Otoxiep87   537
    25   Torcia86   535
    26   Tobydawq   534
    27   Kazistuta   526
    28   AmisVelo   524
    28   BicycleBoy   524
    30   LightBing   522
    31   Squire   520
    32   Flo   519
    33   ChrisDK   511
    34   Tigerion   507
    35   Comodoro   495
    36   Will10   491
    37   PremierAndrew   484
    38   Josedin   476
    39   Salvarani   445
    40   Koronin   428
    41   DJSprtsch   423
    42   BluesInTheBottle   388
    43   Yellow_Knight   380
    44   Search   371
    45   GodChild   273
       Collective_Wisdom   687

    Tomorrow should see rather more happening in the game.  But to whose benefit?
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #27 on: May 19, 2019, 19:03 »
    Stage 9  San Marino TT


    One rider is the big winner of the day: even for most of the other riders in profit, it is more a case of it was not as bad for them as for some.

    ROGLIC Primoz   381pts   11 teams
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   65   10
    NIBALI Vincenzo   51   43
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   40   1
    JUNGELS Bob   39   4
    MASNADA Fausto   35   3
    CARTHY Hugh   29   2
    KANGERT Tanel   28   7
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   18   1
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   12   5
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   10   19
    O'CONNOR Ben   8   30
    ...
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -8   18
    VUILLERMOZ Alexis   -10   2
    ORSINI Umberto   -15   4
    ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo   -25   2
    FORMOLO Davide   -26   6
    YATES Simon   -34   4
    GALLOPIN Tony   -50   2
    CARBONI Giovanni   -167   2


    1   Nathanptz   505 (Roglic, Nibali, Amador and o'Connor) (70 purplish points)
    2   LosBrolin   504 (those that Nathan has, but Montaguti gained one and Landa lost 2) (40)
    3   Rote_Laterne   503 (Like Los Brolin, but without Montaguti) (25)
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   457 (15)
    5   Karaev, SafeBet   430 (8.5 each)
    7   BikeRacer33   424 (5)
    8   Mellow_Velo   417 (3)
    9   Squire   398 (2)
    10   Leadbelly   390 (1)
    11   Shalgo   321
    12   Bminchow   169
    13   LightBing   159
    14   Del1962, TotalPackage   124
    16   Minessa   116
    17   Koronin   107
    18   Will10   106
    19   ArchieBoy   104
    20   Googolplex, Search   98
    22   Carlo_Algatrensig   96
    23   Salvarani   95
    24   Yellow_Knight   90
    25   Fauniera   85
    26   Triley36   82
    27   Flo, Scrool07   69
    29   Comodoro, PremierAndrew   67
    31   AmisVelo, Tobydawq   65
    33   Josedin   55
    34   Torcia86   53
    35   ChrisDK, Kazistuta   49
    37   GodChild   43
    38   Laarsland   31
    39   DJSprtsch, Tigerion   25
    41   Otoxiep87   8
    42   BluesInTheBottle   2
    43   JustSomeGuy   -8
    44   BicycleBoy   -33
    45   Vladimir   -121


    Purplish points
    Armchair Cyclist moves up one place, but immediately behind Nathanptz has a 14 place jump, even if he did only get his day win by one point.

    1   Otoxiep87   189.8
    2   TotalPackage   133.8
    3   Vladimir   104.5
    4   Scrool07   101
    5   Googolplex   86.8
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   86.5
    7   Nathanptz   85
    8   Flo   76
    9   Koronin   70
    9   Torcia86   70

    Standings
    The ten Roglic & Nibali teams once again occupy the top ten places, but in a rather different order than before the stage 6 breakaway. 
    Because of Carboni, Shalgo was already the best placed of the Roglic teams, so no surprise that he regains the lead.  The next three places are taken by Amador teams,the top three on the day scores, each with a 10 place rise.  There are three more teams re-entering the top ten, but it is just outside that that we find the biggest riser on this stage: Nibali-less Roglic team Squire with a 20 place jump.

    1   Shalgo   1299
    2   Rote_Laterne   1183
    3   Nathanptz   1176
    4   LosBrolin   1174
    5   Mellow_Velo   1130
    6   BikeRacer33   1120
    7   Leadbelly   1117
    8   Armchair_Cyclist   1054
    9   Karaev   1037
    10   SafeBet   999
    11   Squire   918
    12   Vladimir   917
    13   TotalPackage   884
    14   Carlo_Algatrensig   852
    14   Triley36   852
    16   Del1962   840
    17   ArchieBoy   829
    18   Minessa   808
    19   Googolplex   733
    20   Bminchow   719
    21   Laarsland   690
    22   LightBing   681
    23   Fauniera   671
    24   Scrool07   633
    25   Tobydawq   599
    26   Will10   597
    27   AmisVelo   589
    28   Flo   588
    28   JustSomeGuy   588
    28   Torcia86   588
    31   Kazistuta   575
    32   Comodoro   562
    33   ChrisDK   560
    34   PremierAndrew   551
    35   Otoxiep87   545
    36   Salvarani   540
    37   Koronin   535
    38   Tigerion   532
    39   Josedin   531
    40   BicycleBoy   491
    41   Yellow_Knight   470
    42   Search   469
    43   DJSprtsch   448
    44   BluesInTheBottle   390
    45   GodChild   316
       Collective_Wisdom   811

    Maybe I'll get a rest day tomorrow too.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #28 on: May 20, 2019, 17:38 »
    Rest Day 1

    9 days in

    Top scoring riders
    * indicates out of the race, cannot add to tally.
    ROGLIC Primoz   662 points   11 teams
    CONTI Valerio   627   0
    MASNADA Fausto   335   3
    PETERS Nans   318   0
    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   304   0
    ACKERMANN Pascal   290   0

    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey   217   10
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   208   1
    ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo   191   2
    EWAN Caleb   190   20
    MADOUAS Valentin   172   0

    CARBONI Giovanni   161   2
    NIBALI Vincenzo   160   43
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   151   5
    MOLLEMA Bauke   144   0
    DEMARE Arnaud   139   0

    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando*   125   4
    SERRY Pieter   111   0

    FORMOLO Davide   103   6
    CATTANEO Mattia   101   0

    JUNGELS Bob   101   4

    Other riders costing 500 or more selected by at least 1 team
    YATES Simon   97   4
    MAJKA Rafal   81   2
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   60   19
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   47   3
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   44   32
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   15   2
    DUMOULIN Tom*   10   1


    Top scoring for Guaranteed points:
    ROGLIC Primoz   237   11
    ACKERMANN Pascal   205   0

    EWAN Caleb   150   20
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   125   4
    CONTI Valerio   117   0
    DEMARE Arnaud   84   0
    VIVIANI Elia   80   0

    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   72   1
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   70   5
    MASNADA Fausto   70   3
    YATES Simon   41   4
    CAMPENAERTS Victor   40   1
    GALLOPIN Tony   40   2
    NIBALI Vincenzo   40   43

    The riders who have put us where we are
    100+ point riders, and any costing over 500, shown.

    The top ten teams all have Roglic and Nibali, plus:
    1   Shalgo   1299 Amador, Carboni, Landa
    2   Rote_Laterne   1183 Amador & Landa
    3   Nathanptz   1176 Amador
    4   LosBrolin   1174 Amador & Landa
    5   Mellow_Velo   1130 Ewan
    6   BikeRacer33   1120 Ewan
    7   Leadbelly   1117 Antunes & Landa
    8   Armchair_Cyclist   1054
    9   Karaev   1037
    10   SafeBet   999 Landa

    Assume that Nibali is in every team unless noted
    11   Squire   918 Roglic, Landa & Zakarin, no Nibali
    12   Vladimir   917 Amador, Carboni and Formolo, Landa & Zakarin
    13   TotalPackage   884 Amador, Ewan and Gaviria*, Landa & Zakarin
    14   Carlo_Algatrensig   852 Masnada and Ewan, Geoghegan Hart
    14   Triley36   852 Masnada and Ewan, Landa
    16   Del1962   840  Amador and Ewan, Landa & Zakarin
    17   ArchieBoy   829 Masnada and Carapaz, Landa
    18   Minessa   808 Amador, Ewan and Formolo, Landa
    19   Googolplex   733 Ewan and Gaviria*, Landa
    20   Bminchow   719 Amador and Jungels, Landa & Zakarin
    21   Laarsland   690  Ewan and Formolo, Landa & Zakarin
    22   LightBing   681 Amador & Jungels, Majka & Zakarin
    23   Fauniera   671 Ewan, Landa & Zakarin
    24   Scrool07   633 Ewan and Carapaz, Landa
    25   Tobydawq   599 Carapaz and Formolo, Landa
    26   Will10   597 Ewan, Landa
    27   AmisVelo   589 Ewan, Landa & Zakarin
    28   Flo   588 Ewan, Landa, Geoghegan Hart and Zakarin
    28   JustSomeGuy   588 Antunes, Yates
    28   Torcia86   588 Carapaz, Formolo, Landa & Zakarin
    31   Kazistuta   575 Ewan, Landa & Zakarin
    32   Comodoro   562 Ewan, Landa & Zakarin
    33   ChrisDK   560 Ewan, Sosa, Geoghegan Hart and Landa
    34   PremierAndrew   551 Ewan, Landa & Zakarin
    35   Otoxiep87   545 Ewan, Gaviria*, Landa & Zakarin; no Nibali
    36   Salvarani   540 Gaviria*, Landa & Zakarin
    37   Koronin   535 Bilbao, Landa
    38   Tigerion   532Ewan, Yates
    39   Josedin   531 Carapaz
    40   BicycleBoy   491 Yates
    41   Yellow_Knight   470 Jungels, Landa & Zakarin
    42   Search   469 Jungles, Landa & Zakarin
    43   DJSprtsch   448 Formolo, Landa & Zakarin
    44   BluesInTheBottle    390 Yates, Sosa
    45   GodChild   316 Dumoulin*


    The next two stages should see a swing in favour of the Ewan teams, although there are some other sprinters not mentioned here that might get decent returns, and after that it is really about how far the interlopers (Carboni, Antunes, Amador and Masnada) might fall: Amador has top tenned in the Giro twice before.  And in what order the contenders for a high place arise.

    When Conti slips from Pink, as he surely must, the top 11 will extend their margin over the rest by 125 points (plus 18 a day) if Roglic takes over: should Nibali get into position for his third Giro win, we are (apologies, Squire and Otoxiep) pretty much as we stand.


    And although it is no longer the "official" secondary competition, the guaranteed points standings (so that you know what your score is if all your riders decide that they enjoyed the rest day so much that they take the next two weeks off as well) are:

    1   BikeRacer33   427
    1   Mellow_Velo   427
    3   Googolplex   328
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   317
    4   TotalPackage   317
    6   Karaev   302
    7   Rote_Laterne   294
    8   Leadbelly   293
    9   Shalgo   289
    10   Otoxiep87   283
    11   LosBrolin   279
    11   Nathanptz   279
    11   Triley36   279
    14   Carlo_Algatrensig   278
    14   Scrool07   278
    16   SafeBet   277
    17   Squire   242
    18   Laarsland   240
    19   Tigerion   231
    20   Kazistuta   228
    21   Minessa   227
    22   Flo   212
    23   ChrisDK   210
    23   Will10   210
    25   PremierAndrew   202
    26   Fauniera   200
    27   Del1962   199
    28   ArchieBoy   197
    29   Salvarani   192
    30   Comodoro   191
    31   AmisVelo   190
    32   Koronin   152
    33   Tobydawq   145
    34   BicycleBoy   136
    35   Torcia86   135
    36   Josedin   122
    37   Vladimir   117
    38   JustSomeGuy   89
    39   BluesInTheBottle   81
    40   Bminchow   72
    41   DJSprtsch   68
    42   LightBing   61
    43   Yellow_Knight   57
    44   GodChild   51
    45   Search   46
       Collective_Wisdom   192

    If you still have an appetite for numbers from this game, the spreadsheet, as ever, is on Dropbox.
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    Re: 2019 Giro CQ game
    « Reply #29 on: May 22, 2019, 00:08 »
    Stage 10

    No selected rider in the top three on the day, no-one getting the pink jersey points, no change in GC position among those who get more than the 15 finisher points, no Mountain classification points on offer, just a handful of stage points and a slight reshuffle in the lower half of the Ciclamino top ten.  The effects of today's stage on tomorrow's start line might change the game more than the stage itself did.

    EWAN Caleb   15   20
    CIMOLAI Davide   14   4
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   10   6
    ...
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   -1   1
    MOSCHETTI Matteo   -4   5
     and this time I have shown every rider selected by our teams who had a change today.


    1   Flo, Scrool07   29 (55 each)
    3   Carlo_Algatrensig, PremierAndrew, Triley36   25 (16.67 each)
    6   Kazistuta   21 (7)
    7   AmisVelo, BikeRacer33, ChrisDK, Comodoro, Del1962, Fauniera, Googolplex, Mellow_Velo, Minessa, Otoxiep87, Tigerion, TotalPackage, Will10   15  (0.85 each)
    20   ArchieBoy, Salvarani   14
    22   Laarsland   11
    23   Josedin   , Yellow_Knight   10
    25   BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, DJSprtsch, GodChild, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, LightBing, LosBrolin, Nathanptz, Rote_Laterne, SafeBet, Search, Shalgo, Squire, Tobydawq, Torcia86, Vladimir   0
    42   Koronin   -1
    43   Armchair_Cyclist, Bminchow, Karaev   -4
       Collective_Wisdom   15


    Purplish points

    At least the points won in this classification are just as many as they are in a TT or a major mountain stage. Scrool07 moves up to 2nd, Flo is up 4 to 4th, and Premier Andrew had a jump of 8 places.  Because we are abut halfway through, and because I had intended putting it in the rest day update but forgot, here is the full table so that some can see just how badly they are doing.

    1   Otoxiep87   190.65
    2   Scrool07   156
    3   TotalPackage   134.65
    4   Flo   131
    5   Vladimir   104.5
    6   Googolplex   87.65
    7   Armchair_Cyclist   86.5
    8   Nathanptz   85
    9   Koronin, Torcia86   70
    11   Laarsland   69.8
    12   Carlo_Algatrensig   66.67
    13   Triley36   58.47
    14   Karaev   51
    15   LosBrolin   42.5
    16   Salvarani   41
    17   SafeBet   33.5
    18   Tobydawq   32
    19   Rote_Laterne   30
    20   PremierAndrew   29.67
    21   Fauniera   22.85
    22   Kazistuta   22
    23   ArchieBoy   20
    24   AmisVelo, BikeRacer33, Mellow_Velo   17.85
    27   Minessa   17.65
    28   Josedin   15
    29   Shalgo   12.5
    30   Bminchow   12
    31   DJSprtsch   7
    32   ChrisDK   5.35
    33   BicycleBoy   5
    34   Comodoro   4.65
    35   Del1962, Tigerion, Will10   2.65
    38   Leadbelly, Squire   2
    40   BluesInTheBottle, GodChild, JustSomeGuy, LightBing, Search, Yellow_Knight   0

    Standings
    Surprisingly, there was some change, although you have to look down to Fauniera in 21st to find anyone changing position here. 
    Even more surprisingly, these margins managed to generate a 3 place boost in position for Flo

    1   Shalgo   1299
    2   Rote_Laterne   1183
    3   Nathanptz   1176
    4   LosBrolin   1174
    5   Mellow_Velo   1145
    6   BikeRacer33   1135
    7   Leadbelly   1117
    8   Armchair_Cyclist   1050
    9   Karaev   1033
    10   SafeBet   999
    11   Squire   918
    12   Vladimir   917
    13   TotalPackage   899
    14   Carlo_Algatrensig   877
    14   Triley36   877
    16   Del1962   855
    17   ArchieBoy   843
    18   Minessa   823
    19   Googolplex   748
    20   Bminchow   715
    21   Laarsland   701
    22   Fauniera   686
    23   LightBing   681
    24   Scrool07   662
    25   Flo   617
    26   Will10   612
    27   AmisVelo   604
    28   Tobydawq   599
    29   Kazistuta   596
    30   JustSomeGuy   588
    30   Torcia86   588
    32   Comodoro   577
    33   PremierAndrew   576
    34   ChrisDK   575
    35   Otoxiep87   560
    36   Salvarani   554
    37   Tigerion   547
    38   Josedin   541
    39   Koronin   534
    40   BicycleBoy   491
    41   Yellow_Knight   480
    42   Search   469
    43   DJSprtsch   448
    44   BluesInTheBottle   390
    45   GodChild   316
       Collective_Wisdom   826

    It would be nice to think that this was a uniquely bland stage, but have you seen tomorrow's stage profile?
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