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2019 Vuelta CQ game
« on: August 18, 2019, 01:24 »
It only occurred to me today that the race is a week away, so a little later than intended, but here we go:

Your team
You need to name 8 riders who will be on the startline for the Vuelta, and who have a total CQ value for the 12 months to 18th August (the Sunday before the start) of 3500 or less.  Those prices are as reported in the CQ download published on 19th August.
If you pick a rider who is not on the final startlist, or your team is overbudget, I will replace him (the non-entrant or the cheapest one who can be replaced and bring you back into budget) with the most expensive replacement that will keep you in budget (this is a change from previous versions, but it shouldn't happen anyway).

There is a spreadsheet available on Dropbox that will help you get your 8 men within budget, and arrange it for submission.

Entering the game
Send your team to me by PM on either Velorooms or Cycling News forums.  If you do not have sufficient posts to your name at CN, then you will find no such restriction at Velorooms.
Please send your riders' names only (not the price, not their team, preferably not even a following space) in CQ format (Surname then forename, some care needed with Spanish/South American, Danish, Eritrean and Portuguese riders).  If you use the spreadsheet, that will be easy.
Entries must be sent in before the race starts, which I believe  is 18:56 local time on 24th August (Yeah: I thought it looked like an odd time too).  If you don't wait until the last moment, I will have a better chance of warning you if there is a problem with the team.  However, please do not send in your teams until the riders' prices are confirmed.

The game
Your riders will get points for stage positions (70 for the winner, down to 1 for 10th), for starting a stage in the red jersey (18 points) and for their standings in the points and mountains categories with points given on the same scale, and GC standing (ranging from 500 for the leader to 16 for 50th, and 15 for everyone else).  Those standings points can obviously increase or decrease, and gradually become a closer indication of what the final scores will be as the race goes on.
I will update daily, allowing you to become very optimistic until your top performers eventually drop away and/or withdraw from the race.

There is a secondary competition, which, after some discussion during the Tour, will be based on stage points only (not even red jersey bonuses).  I'll be referring to this as the green points competition.

Enjoy the game, and good luck to your team.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #1 on: August 19, 2019, 21:38 »
    20 of 22 teams confirmed (still waiting on INEOS and Deceuning-QS), but still no download of the up to date prices on CQ website.   So think about your key picks, and be ready to adjust your minor riders when the prices are confirmed.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #2 on: August 20, 2019, 07:51 »
    here is the startlist with the CQ values:

    #movistar      MOVISTAR TEAM      :cool      #ag2r      AG2R LA MONDIALE      :cool   
          VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      2395            BIDARD François      148   
          ARCAS PEÑA Jorge      50            BOUCHARD Geoffrey      60   
          CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      1296            CHEVRIER Clément      43   
          ERVITI OLLO Imanol      90            DILLIER Silvan      173   
          OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes      305            GODON Dorian      151   
          PEDRERO LOPEZ Antonio      197            JAUREGUI Quentin      227   
          QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander      1075            LATOUR Pierre      164   
          SOLER GIMENEZ Marc      230            VENTURINI Clément      261   
                5638                  1227   
    #astana      ASTANA PRO TEAM      :cool      #bahrain      BAHRAIN - MERIDA      :cool   
          BOARO Manuele      112            ARASHIRO Yukiya      38   
          CATALDO Dario      240            BAUHAUS Phil      85   
          FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar      155            HAUSSLER Heinrich      129   
          FUGLSANG Jakob      1730            NOVAK Domen      111   
          IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka      422            PADUN Mark      229   
          IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion      1061            PERNSTEINER Hermann      157   
          LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      1290            PIBERNIK Luka      76   
          SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon      880            TEUNS Dylan      1007   
                5890                  1832   
    #bora      BORA-HANSGROHE      :cool      #burgos      BURGOS BH      :cool   
          ARCHBOLD Shane      71            BICO Nuno Miguel Alves Matos      5   
          BENNETT Sam      905            BOL Jetse      104   
          DRUCKER Jempy      213            CABEDO CARDA Oscar      28   
          FORMOLO Davide      798            CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge      18   
          GROSSSCHARTNER Felix      863            EZQUERRA MUELA Jesus      48   
          MAJKA Rafal      817            MADRAZO RUIZ Angel      98   
          MÜHLBERGER Gregor      272            RUBIO HERNANDEZ Diego      158   
          POLJANSKI Pawel      59            VILELA Ricardo Augusto Afonso      26   
                3998                  485   
    #cajarural      CAJA RURAL-SEGUROS RGA      :cool      #ccc      CCC TEAM      :cool   
          ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon      214            BARTA William      11   
          ARANBURU DEBA Alexander      271            BERNAS Pawel      146   
          CHERNETSKIY Sergey      342            BEVIN Patrick      502   
          GONÇALVES Domingos Andre Maciel      23            DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor      171   
          LASTRA MARTINEZ Jonathan      301            KOCH Jonas      180   
          PARDILLA BELLON Sergio      26            SAJNOK Szymon      217   
          RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian      130            VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan      169   
          SERRANO RODRIGUEZ Gonzalo      115            VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose      50   
                1422                  1446   
    #cofidis      COFIDIS SOLUTIONS CRÉDITS      :cool      #deceuninck      DECEUNINCK - QUICK-STEP      :cool   
          ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin      64            CAPECCHI Eros      98   
          EDET Nicolas      303            CAVAGNA Rémi      241   
          HANSEN Jesper      107            DECLERCQ Tim      84   
          HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus      925            GILBERT Philippe      885   
          HERRADA LOPEZ Jose      119            JAKOBSEN Fabio      865   
          MATE MARDONES Luis Angel      114            KNOX James      273   
          ROSSETTO Stéphane      142            RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel      143   
          TOUZE Damien      227            STYBAR Zdenek      903   
                2001                  3492   
    #ef      EF EDUCATION FIRST      :cool      #euskadi      EUSKADI BASQUE COUNTRY-MURIAS      :cool   
          CARTHY Hugh      605            BAGÜES KALPARSORO Aritz      29   
          CRADDOCK Lawson      166            BARCELO ARAGON Fernando      149   
          DOCKER Mitchell      75            BARTHE Cyril      89   
          HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres      622            BIZKARRA ETXEGIBEL Mikel      255   
          MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      404            ITURRIA SEGUROLA Mikel      93   
          OWEN Logan      27            RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar      409   
          URAN URAN Rigoberto      1028            SAEZ BENITO Hector      95   
          VAN GARDEREN Tejay      448            SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio      53   
                3375                  1172   
    #groupama      GROUPAMA - FDJ      :cool      #lotto      LOTTO SOUDAL      :cool   
          ARMIRAIL Bruno      66            ARMEE Sander      120   
          DELAGE Mickaël      72            DE GENDT Thomas      550   
          FRANKINY Kilian      162            HAGEN Carl Fredrik      231   
          LUDVIGSSON Tobias      243            MARCZYNSKI Tomasz      77   
          MORABITO Steve      90            VAN DER SANDE Tosh      217   
          SARREAU Marc      535            VAN GOETHEM Brian      48   
          SEIGLE Romain      60            VANHOUCKE Harm      38   
          THOMAS Benjamin      157            WALLAYS Jelle      185   
                1385                  1466   
    #mitchelton      MITCHELTON - SCOTT      :cool      #dimension      TEAM DIMENSION DATA      :cool   
          BEWLEY Sam      43            BOASSON HAGEN Edvald      488   
          CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban      224            DLAMINI Nicholas      30   
          GRMAY Tsgabu Gebremaryam      90            GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul      189
          HOWSON Damien      284            KING Benjamin      310   
          MEZGEC Luka      392            MEINTJES Louis      62   
          NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel      371            O'CONNOR Ben      187   
          SCHULTZ Nicholas      254            TILLER Rasmus Fossum      58   
          SMITH Dion      222            VENTER Jaco      44   
                1880                  1383   
    #ineos      TEAM INEOS      :cool      #jumbo      TEAM JUMBO - VISMA      :cool   
          POELS Wout   961         BENNETT George      560   
          DOULL Owain      321            GESINK Robert      122   
          ELISSONDE Kenny      160            HOFSTEDE Lennard      42   
          GEOGHEGAN HART Tao      344            KRUIJSWIJK Steven      1188   
          HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian      110            KUSS Sepp      83   
          KIRYIENKA Vasil      117            MARTIN Tony      216   
          PUCCIO Salvatore      71            POWLESS Neilson      268   
          STANNARD Ian      194            ROGLIC Primoz      1958   
                2278                  4437   
    #katusha      TEAM KATUSHA ALPECIN      :cool      #sunweb      TEAM SUNWEB      :cool   
          BATTAGLIN Enrico      117            ARNDT Nikias      142   
          CRAS Steff      108            KELDERMAN Wilco      516   
          FABBRO Matteo      131            PEDERSEN Casper Phillip      74   
          GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida      381            POWER Robert      207   
          KOCHETKOV Pavel      60            ROCHE Nicolas      237   
          KUZNETSOV Viatcheslav      61            STORER Michael      116   
          NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel      28            TUSVELD Martijn      113   
          SMIT Willie      50            WALSCHEID Maximilian      469   
                936                  1874   
    #trek      TREK-SEGAFREDO      :cool      #uae      UAE - TEAM EMIRATES      :cool   
          BRAMBILLA Gianluca      416            ARU Fabio      302   
          DEGENKOLB John      683            CONTI Valerio      439   
          EG Niklas      239            GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      559   
          KIRSCH Alex      80            HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis      243   
          MOSCA Jacopo      177            MARCATO Marco      88   
          REIJNEN Kiel      50            MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian      336   
          STETINA Peter      122            POGACAR Tadej      1043   
          THEUNS Edward      214            TROIA Oliviero      79   
                1981                  3089   

    (as the download isn't available yet, I copied the numbers from the "current ranking" tab on the website. So they should be correct, but it's not 100% safe)
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2019, 10:07 »
    Apologies to those who have been looking at the dropbox spreadsheet: I had posted the scores 01/01/19 to 11/08/19, instead of 11/08/18 to 11/08/19. (I had copied from the Emerging Riders Game rather than going back to the original). I thought the prices were a bit low. My draft has been wiped out to start again, sorry if you are in the same situation.

    However, even with that correction, these scores are a guide to rough price, pending the update for the year to 18/08 which I keep checking CQ for. In the meantime, prices are available at CQ or on Search's excellent table above.

    At least we know this morning which DQT riders we should be considering: only Ineos still to confirm.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #4 on: August 20, 2019, 14:03 »
    I have used Search's research and updated the dropbox file manually.  Ineos are still to confirm their team, but I am open for entries.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #5 on: August 22, 2019, 23:55 »
    About 42 hours to go, and I have 16 teams so far:
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    Armchair_Cyclist
    Bminchow
    Del1962
    DJSprtsch
    Googolplex
    Hakkie
    Jakob747
    JustSomeGuy
    Koronin
    Leadbelly
    Salvarani
    Scrool07
    Search
    Shalgo
    Triley36


    All of the riders considered to have any chance of winning La Vuelta have been picked at least twice.  One manager retracted Carapaz as soon as there was the possibility of him being injured, one reacted soon after his withdrawal was announced, and one is still pondering how to build a team without him.

    You still have 130 chances to select a unique pick, or maybe you will put all three of the riders already in at least three quarters of the teams into your squad. 
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #6 on: August 23, 2019, 01:48 »
    CQ did finally post the update, and although they have dated it as the year to 18th August, they have deleted for KOCH and BERNAS the points from races that took place on 21 Aug 2018.  Those points therefore should be in the year to 18th August, and I will stick with the prices as posted above by Search, and that have been in the Dropbox team selector tool throughout.


    However, in the case of GEBREIGZABHIER, although Search is quite right in saying that on 18th August the site reported his score as 189, the update this evening reports 204, and all the results would conform that.  189 would make sense on the basis of the score given in the 11 August update: my guess is that the good folks at CQ only picked up on his Eritrean national time trial championship win in April in the last week: that would account for the other 15 points.

    GEBREIGZABHIER is on one team, but that manager had more than 15 points to spare in his budget, so the teams as they exist at the moment are not affected by this price rise.  His price will therefore be 204, and I have amended Search's list and the selection tool at Dropbox accordingly.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #7 on: August 24, 2019, 09:52 »
    Just submitted my team, it's not exciting but includes the most likely winner and runner up. I will still cheer for guys not on my team though.

    Thanks again AC for your time and search for your nice lists.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #8 on: August 24, 2019, 11:08 »
    OK, so two teams that I have downloaded this morning have included Gebregzabhier at his "old" price (before CQ discovered the results of the Eritrean national TT results from June) and are therefore a few points over budget.

    So do I:
    A) apply the new prices, and replace their cheapest selection with a rider a few points cheaper ("The change in his price was announced in the thread, and the price lists changed, more than 24 hours before they submitted their teams"); or
    B) allow them to run a few points over ("It was an inadvertent mistake, based on treating the information source they were given in good faith")

    I know which way I am inclined to vote, but I get these sudden notions of democracy from time to time.

    Two hours to decide the fate of your opponents!
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #9 on: August 24, 2019, 11:17 »
    All good What ever decision you make. I say let the team be over budget but there will be grump from someone
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #10 on: August 24, 2019, 11:30 »
    JSG's always after bigger budgets in the the CQ games. ;)

    Applying the rules sounds good to me.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #11 on: August 24, 2019, 13:58 »
    The people (well, 4 of them between the two sites) have spoken: the teams with Gebreigzahier have their reprieve.


    And if anyone else wants to get in a team with Gebreigzabhier at 189, or without him, you have about 4 hours.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #12 on: August 24, 2019, 18:29 »
    They have slid off down that rather slippery looking start ramp, so here we go

    36 teams, 61 riders, 22 of them asterisked as unique picks

    Amis Velo
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MEINTJES Louis   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   

    Archieboy
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       KNOX James   
       PADUN Mark   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MADRAZO RUIZ Angel   *


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       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       BENNETT Sam   
       RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   

    Bicycle Boy

       ROGLIC Primoz   
       BENNETT Sam   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       CRADDOCK Lawson   *
       LATOUR Pierre   
       HOFSTEDE Lennard   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       BARTA William   

    BikeRacer33

       ROGLIC Primoz   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       KNOX James   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   

    Blues in the Bottle

       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       POGACAR Tadej   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       BAUHAUS Phil   
       MEINTJES Louis   
       BICO Nuno Miguel Alves Matos   

    Bminchow
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       PADUN Mark   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   

    Carlo Algatrensig
       POELS Wout   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       MEZGEC Luka   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MEINTJES Louis   

    Comodoro
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BAUHAUS Phil   

    Del1962
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       ARU Fabio   
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MEINTJES Louis   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   

    DJSprtsch
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       BENNETT Sam   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MEINTJES Louis   

    Fauniera***
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       ARU Fabio   
       EG Niklas   *
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
       PADUN Mark   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul   

    Googolplex
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       MARTIN Tony   *
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MEINTJES Louis   

    Hakkie
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       POELS Wout   
       JAKOBSEN Fabio   *
       GESINK Robert   
       TUSVELD Martijn   *
       BOL Jetse   *
       VAN GOETHEM Brian   *
       HOFSTEDE Lennard   

    Jakob747
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   
       ARU Fabio   
       PADUN Mark   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul   
       O'CONNOR Ben   

    Josedin
       POGACAR Tadej   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       MEZGEC Luka   
       ARU Fabio   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel   *

    Just Some Guy
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       BENNETT Sam   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       O'CONNOR Ben   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       BARTA William   

    Kazistuta
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       BENNETT Sam   
       ARU Fabio   
       ARANBURU DEBA Alexander   *
       PADUN Mark   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BAUHAUS Phil   

    Koronin
       VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   
       ARU Fabio   
       HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   *
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       KUSS Sepp   *
       SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio   
       OWEN Logan   *

    Laarsland
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   

    Leadbelly
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BAUHAUS Phil   

    Los Brolin
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       MAJKA Rafal   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BAUHAUS Phil   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   

    Melllow Velo
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       GROSSSCHARTNER Felix   *
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BAUHAUS Phil   
       BICO Nuno Miguel Alves Matos   

    Northerner
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       ARU Fabio   
       PADUN Mark   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
       SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio   

    Premier Andrew
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       BENNETT Sam   
       BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   
       MEINTJES Louis   

    Ripley
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       BIZKARRA ETXEGIBEL Mikel   *
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BAUHAUS Phil   

    Rote Laterne
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       PARDILLA BELLON Sergio   
       CUBERO GALVEZ Jorge   *
       BARTA William   
       BICO Nuno Miguel Alves Matos   

    Salvarani
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BAUHAUS Phil   
       BARTA William   

    Scrool07
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       KRUIJSWIJK Steven   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       BATTAGLIN Enrico   *
       MARCATO Marco   *
       ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   

    Search
       VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   *
       LATOUR Pierre   
       FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   
       BARTA William   

    Shalgo
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   
       PADUN Mark   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       THEUNS Edward   *
       LATOUR Pierre   
       ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin   
       BARTA William   

    Tobydawq
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       ARU Fabio   
       PADUN Mark   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   

    Total Package

       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       MEINTJES Louis   

    Triley36
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   
       ARU Fabio   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco Jose   *
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   

    Vladimir
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   
       ARU Fabio   
       SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       GESINK Robert   
       NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel   

    Yellow Knight
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       BENNETT Sam   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       GEOGHEGAN HART Tao   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       MARCZYNSKI Tomasz   
       POLJANSKI Pawel   *
       BARTA William   


    *** (nine names submitted: I have omitted the cheapest, but if the manager wants to omit another and bring Latour in, I'll allow it up to tomorrow's)

    Some observations:
    Rote Laterne, hot from victory in the Tour game, is the only one to have gone with the big two of Lopez and Roglic.
    Many teams have not bothered at all with a big name (or even a small name) sprinter, but Yellow Knight has both Bennett and Gaviria.
    Googolplex seems to have his eyes on the initial lead, with hopes, I presume, for Tony Martin as the first red jersey.
    Hakkie may have prioritised national pride over realistic chance in the game.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #13 on: August 24, 2019, 19:01 »
    Riders

    61 seems like a lower than usual number of the field to have represented, but that is probably because a few mid-price riders were very popular.

    How many teams selected each rider

    30 teams: CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban, LATOUR Pierre
    26: ARU Fabio
    20: LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
    12:GEOGHEGAN HART Tao, NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
    9: ROGLIC Primoz
    8: BAUHAUS Phil, MEINTJES Louis, PADUN Mark
    7: BARTA William, BENNETT Sam, MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe, SOLER GIMENEZ Marc

    The bolded riders make up the Collective Wisdom team.  Roglic would have put it way over budget, and taking two of the men on 8 teams would be very much under budget, so I have lifted Bennett from the group below to make a very plausible spend of 3486.

    6: GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando, HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres
    5: QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander, RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar
    4: ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin, GEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel Werkilul, MAJKA Rafal
    3: BICO Nuno Miguel Alves Matos, KRUIJSWIJK Steven, O'CONNOR Ben, PARDILLA BELLON Sergio, URAN URAN Rigoberto
    2: BOASSON HAGEN Edvald, DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor, FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar, GESINK Robert, HOFSTEDE Lennard, KELDERMAN Wilco, KNOX James, MARCZYNSKI Tomasz, MEZGEC Luka, POELS Wout, POGACAR Tadej, SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio, VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro


    Riders on just one team are noted above.


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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #14 on: August 24, 2019, 19:37 »
    Team popularity
    1   Comodoro   139
    2   Salvarani   138
    3   Leadbelly   137
    4   AmisVelo   134
    5   Tobydawq   133
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   132
    6   Vladimir   132
    8   Kazistuta   130
    9   TotalPackage   129
    10   PremierAndrew   127
    10   Triley36   127
    12   DJSprtsch   125
    13   Del1962   124
    13   Mellow_Velo   124
    15   Googolplex   123
    15   Northerner   123
    17   Bminchow   120
    18   BikeRacer33   115
    18   Ripley   115
    20   Laarsland   113
    21   Search   110
    22   Carlo_Algatrensig   108
    23   Fauniera   102
    23   Jakob747   102
    25   LosBrolin   100
    26   BicycleBoy   98
    27   Shalgo   95
    28   Koronin   93
    29   Rote_Laterne   85
    29   Yellow_Knight   85
    31   BluesInTheBottle   84
    32   ArchieBoy   79
    32   Josedin   79
    34   Scrool07   77
    35   JustSomeGuy   72
    36   Hakkie   13
       Collective_Wisdom   145

    Hakkie's Dutchmen are not very popular on any other team: 4 unique picks there.  Koronin has 3 and Scrool 2.

    Very unusual for me to be so high in the popularity rankings: my team was lodged with Search early in the week though, lest anyone be suspicious.


    Major picks
    Riders costing 500 points or more:
    (Bennett in all cases refers to Sam)

    Valverde: Koronin,   Search         
                   
    Roglic and Lopez: Rote Laterne         
    Roglic and Bennett:   Bicycle Boy         
    Roglic and Majka:   Los Brolin         
    Roglic and Higuita:   Shalgo         
    Roglic and Kelderman:   Del1962         
    Roglic:   Amis Velo, BikeRacer33, Bminchow, Googolplex   
                   
                   
    Kruijswijk, Poels and Jakobsen:   Hakkie      
    Kruijswijk, Bennett and Kelderman:   Just Some Guy      
                   
    Lopez, Kruijswijk and Gaviria:   Scrool07      
    Lopez and Uran:   Tobydawq,   Triley36      
    Lopez and Quintana:   Northerner,    Salvarani,   Vladimir   
    Lopez, Pogacar and Gaviria:   Blues in the Bottle      
    Lopez, Bennett and Gaviria:   Yellow Knight      
    Lopez and Bennett:   Armchair Cyclist,   Kazistuta,   Premier Andrew   
    Lopez, Grossschartner and Gaviria:   Mellow Velo      
    Lopez and Majka:   Leadbelly,   Laarsland      
    Lopez and Higuita:   Archieboy,   Comodoro,   Fauniera,   Jakob747,
    Lopez and Gaviria:   Total Package         
                   
                   
    Quintana and Uran:   Ripley         
    Quintana and Bennett:   DJSprtsch         
                   
    Pogacar and Higuita:   Josedin         
                   
    Poels, Majka and Gaviria:   Carlo Algatrensig      



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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #15 on: August 24, 2019, 20:29 »
    Stage 1  Team Time Trial


    CQ haven't posted completely yet, but I believe their formula is 1/4 of the points, rounded down.
    Astana 17 points for each man who finished in the group.
    DQT 10
    Sunweb 6
    Ed First 3
    Bora 2
    CCC 1
    Movistar 1

    Green points

    1   ArchieBoy   33 (One Astana, one DQT and 2 Ed Firsts)
    2   Comodoro   23 (One Astana, one DQT and 2 Ed Firsts)
    2   Laarsland   23 (One Astana, one Ed Firsts, one Bora and a Movistar)
    4   Fauniera   21
    5   Armchair_Cyclist, Jakob747, Leadbelly, Triley36, Tobydawq, TotalPackage, Yellow_Knight   20
    12   Kazistuta, Mellow_Velo, PremierAndrew, Salvarani, Vladimir   19
    17   BluesInTheBottle, Northerner, Rote_Laterne   18
    20   Scrool07   17
    21   Josedin   16
    22   BikeRacer33   11
    23   Hakkie   10
    24   JustSomeGuy   9
    25   Del1962   7
    26   BicycleBoy, DJSprtsch   6
    28   Ripley, Shalgo   4
    30   AmisVelo   3
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig, LosBrolin, Search   2
    34   Googolplex, Koronin   1
    36   Bminchow   0
       Collective_Wisdom   19

    Standings
    The GC rankings at the moment are fairly irrelevant (although Lopez topping them might be noteworthy), but that's what gets added in at this stage to make the very early standings, along with the 18 points Lopez has for being Red Jersey wearer.
    No sprint or climbing points included yet, they will begin to appear tomorrow.

    1   ArchieBoy   853
    2   Laarsland   744
    3   Comodoro   741
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   714
    5   Fauniera   711
    6   Yellow_Knight   710
    7   Triley36   697
    7   Tobydawq   697
    9   Leadbelly   696
    10   Jakob747   693
    11   TotalPackage   691
    12   Kazistuta   686
    12   PremierAndrew   686
    14   Salvarani   680
    15   Mellow_Velo   676
    16   Vladimir   674
    17   Rote_Laterne   664
    18   BluesInTheBottle   661
    19   Northerner   656
    20   Scrool07   640
    21   Josedin   348
    22   Hakkie   280
    23   JustSomeGuy   274
    24   BikeRacer33   266
    25   BicycleBoy   236
    26   Del1962   228
    27   DJSprtsch   227
    28   Shalgo   197
    29   Ripley   190
    30   AmisVelo   171
    31   Search   167
    32   Carlo_Algatrensig   158
    32   LosBrolin   158
    34   Koronin   143
    35   Googolplex   141
    36   Bminchow   123
       Collective_Wisdom   686

    It'll be some time before this tells us much: all it does so far is to show which 20 managers are getting 535 points (and probably a few days' worth of 18 point bonuses to come) from MA Lopez.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #16 on: August 24, 2019, 23:16 »
    One other bit of data that belonged pre-game, the Four Seasons Championship (Spring Classics + Giro + Tour + Vuelta)

    There are 20 teams that have entered this, plus he three previous games, and so are in the running for that title.

    But to be honest, there is only one team that is in the running to win it.
    Scores after three of the four events:

    1   Tobydawq   6751
    2   AmisVelo   5632
    3   Search   5295
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   5222
    5   Del1962   5194
    6   Scrool07   5098
    7   Laarsland   5014
    8   LosBrolin   4747
    9   Triley36   4720
    10   Salvarani   4660
    11   Leadbelly   4613
    12   Rote_Laterne   4611
    13   Josedin   4581
    14   Mellow_Velo   4176
    15   Bminchow   4167
    16   Kazistuta   4163
    17   Comodoro   4081
    18   Vladimir   4024
    19   BluesInTheBottle   3983
    20   JustSomeGuy   3904


    And all the data you could wish to check out is, as ever, in the Spreadsheet at Dropbox, and will be updated at the same location each day.
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    « Reply #17 on: August 25, 2019, 06:57 »
    So my strategy with Roglic failed, but Barta already gave me one point more than expected.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #18 on: August 25, 2019, 19:24 »
    Stage 2  Well that was unexpected

    Green points
    Today

    1   Ripley   95 (Quintana, Uran, Aru)
    2   DJSprtsch, Northerner, Salvarani, Vladimir   80 (Quintana and Aru)
    6   AmisVelo, BikeRacer33, Bminchow, Del1962, Googolplex   35 (Roglic and Aru)

    Overall
    1   Ripley, Salvarani ,Vladimir   99
    4   Northerner   98
    5   DJSprtsch   86
    6   BikeRacer33   46
    7   Tobydawq, Triley36   45
    9   Rote_Laterne   43
    10   Del1962   42

    Ripley rises 27 places, DJSprtsch 21, and Googolplex and Bminchow both 20.


    Main Game

    A reminder: because this is built on projected positions, riders can lose points.  It doesn't mean they aren't doing well, just not as well as yesterday: Lopez is still the 3rd highest scoring selected rider, even though it looks like a disaster today.  As is the case unless there are very few scorers, I only include those with the bigger shifts, and only those selected for the game.

    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   488 points   5 teams
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   279   3
    ROGLIC Primoz   250   9
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   120   2
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   113   6
    ARU Fabio   101   26
    KELDERMAN Wilco   94   2
    MAJKA Rafal   87   4
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   86   30
    LATOUR Pierre   84   30
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander   79   1
    DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   78   2
    MADRAZO RUIZ Angel   70   1
    ...
    KNOX James   -66   2
    RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel   -120   1
    JAKOBSEN Fabio   -150   1
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -260   20


    On the day
    I'm not sure that I have noticed more than 1000 points on the day before: extraordinary
    1   Ripley   1038 (Chaves and Latour, as well as the Quintana/Uran/Aru noted above, and none of the 36 riders in the red today)
    2   DJSprtsch   716 (Quintana, Aru, Chaves, Latour, but some point losers too)
    3   Del1962   616 (Roglic, Aru, Kelderman, Chaves, Letour)
    4   Bminchow   559
    5   BikeRacer33   533
    6   AmisVelo   529
    7   Shalgo   523
    8   LosBrolin   517
    9   Googolplex   512
    9   Northerner   512
    11   Vladimir   493
    12   Salvarani   476
    13   Koronin   391
    14   Search   378
    15   Carlo_Algatrensig   369
    16   BicycleBoy   354
    17   Tobydawq   313
    18   Triley36   300
    19   Josedin   220
    20   JustSomeGuy   141
    21   Comodoro   114
    22   Leadbelly   81
    23   Kazistuta   62
    24   Rote_Laterne   61
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   58
    26   Jakob747   53
    27   Fauniera   42
    28   TotalPackage   18
    29   PremierAndrew   -13
    30   Mellow_Velo   -20
    31   Laarsland   -30
    32   ArchieBoy   -56
    33   BluesInTheBottle   -134
    34   Hakkie   -149
    35   Scrool07   -166
    36   Yellow_Knight   -213
       Collective_Wisdom   -7

    Standings
    Only three of this top ten were in the top ten yesterday: Ripleys 4 figure day score earns a 28 place jump, although a twenty place rise for DJSprtsch also merits a mention.
    1   Ripley   1228
    2   Northerner   1168
    3   Vladimir   1167
    4   Salvarani   1156
    5   Tobydawq   1010
    6   Triley36   997
    7   DJSprtsch   943
    8   Comodoro   855
    9   Del1962   844
    10   BikeRacer33   799
    11   ArchieBoy   797
    12   Leadbelly   777
    13   Armchair_Cyclist   772
    14   Fauniera   753
    15   Kazistuta   748
    16   Jakob747   746
    17   Rote_Laterne   725
    18   Shalgo   720
    19   Laarsland   714
    20   TotalPackage   709
    21   AmisVelo   700
    22   Bminchow   682
    23   LosBrolin   675
    24   PremierAndrew   673
    25   Mellow_Velo   656
    26   Googolplex   653
    27   BicycleBoy   590
    28   Josedin   568
    29   Search   545
    30   Koronin   534
    31   BluesInTheBottle   527
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   527
    33   Yellow_Knight   497
    34   Scrool07   474
    35   JustSomeGuy   415
    36   Hakkie   131
       Collective_Wisdom   679

    Tomorrow, assuming it is for the sprinters, will not see anything like as much change.

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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #19 on: August 26, 2019, 04:27 »
    Wow my team exploded on stage 2

    The dream is over early this time :)
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #20 on: August 26, 2019, 08:30 »
    Woohoo! Back in the lead again, people must think I'm a cycling expert. :)
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #21 on: August 27, 2019, 00:09 »
    Stage 3  The first sprint

    If a sprinter dominates the stages that suit him in these games, then he can score as well in the game as anyone well into the GC top ten.  But that is no more guaranteed than any GC man making the upper reaches of that table, so expensive big-name picks can be a high risk strategy.  But for now, it looks like it might work for seven teams.

    Green points
    Today

    1   Kazistuta   80 (Bennett and Bauhaus)
    2   Armchair_Cyclist, BicycleBoy, DJSprtsch, JustSomeGuy, PremierAndrew, Yellow_Knight   70 (Bennett)
    8   Shalgo   40 (Theuns)
    9   Josedin   32 (Mezgec and Richeze)
    10   Carlo_Algatrensig   25 (Mezgec)
    11   Search   15 (Aberasturi
    12   7 teams 10 (Bauhaus)
    19   Hakkie   5 (Jakobsen)
    20   The rest 0

    Overall

    Still a very volatile table, with the five new entries to the top ten rising at least 16 places: Kazistuta in 2nd has risen 18 spots, and Yellow Knight (and JSG immediately behind him) 20.

    1   DJSprtsch   156
    2   Kazistuta   111
    3   Ripley   109
    3   Salvarani   109
    5   BicycleBoy   101
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   100
    7   PremierAndrew   99
    7   Vladimir   99
    9   Northerner   98
    10   Yellow_Knight   90

    Main game

    Very few GC changes: this is basically stage points and adjustments to the points classification.

    BENNETT Sam   110pts   7 teams
    THEUNS Edward   55   1
    MEZGEC Luka   31   2
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   23   6
    ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon   20   1
    BAUHAUS Phil   11   8
    RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel   7   1
    CRADDOCK Lawson   6   1
    JAKOBSEN Fabio   5   1
    ...
    ARU Fabio   -8   26
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   -8   3
    ROGLIC Primoz   -15   9
    KELDERMAN Wilco   -25   2

    On the day
    1   Kazistuta   115
    2   Yellow_Knight   110
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   102
    4   BicycleBoy   101
    4   DJSprtsch   101
    6   PremierAndrew   100
    7   JustSomeGuy   77
    8   Shalgo   67
    9   Josedin   50
    10   ArchieBoy   29
    11   Comodoro   26
    12   Carlo_Algatrensig   22
    13   Jakob747   19
    14   Fauniera   18
    15   Search   14
    16   BluesInTheBottle   7
    17   Hakkie   5
    18   Leadbelly   3
    18   Mellow_Velo   3
    18   Salvarani   3
    21   Laarsland   0
    21   Scrool07   0
    23   Northerner   -1
    24   LosBrolin   -4
    25   Ripley   -5
    26   Vladimir   -8
    27   Koronin   -9
    28   TotalPackage   -10
    29   Tobydawq   -12
    30   Rote_Laterne   -15
    31   Triley36   -16
    32   Bminchow   -19
    33   BikeRacer33   -21
    34   AmisVelo   -24
    34   Googolplex   -24
    36   Del1962   -49
       Collective_Wisdom   106

    Standings
    Bauhaus allows Salvarani to squash up onto the third step of the virtual podium.  DJSprtsch is the only one of yesterday's top ten to have Bennett, and moves up 2.  Armchair and Kazistuta are new in the top ten, but neither jumped as far as the 8 places of Premier Andrew.

    1   Ripley   1223
    2   Northerner   1167
    3   Salvarani   1159
    3   Vladimir   1159
    5   DJSprtsch   1044
    6   Tobydawq   998
    7   Triley36   981
    8   Comodoro   881
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   874
    10   Kazistuta   863
    11   ArchieBoy   826
    12   Del1962   795
    13   Shalgo   787
    14   Leadbelly   780
    15   BikeRacer33   778
    16   PremierAndrew   773
    17   Fauniera   771
    18   Jakob747   765
    19   Laarsland   714
    20   Rote_Laterne   710
    21   TotalPackage   699
    22   BicycleBoy   691
    23   AmisVelo   676
    24   LosBrolin   671
    25   Bminchow   663
    26   Mellow_Velo   659
    27   Googolplex   629
    28   Josedin   618
    29   Yellow_Knight   607
    30   Search   559
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   549
    32   BluesInTheBottle   534
    33   Koronin   525
    34   JustSomeGuy   492
    35   Scrool07   474
    36   Hakkie   136
       Collective_Wisdom   785

    Tomorrow could see more or less the same again.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #22 on: August 28, 2019, 01:31 »
    Stage 4  A similar sort of sprint.

    Green points

    The disqualification of Walscheid gives a bit of a bonus to Gaviria and others
    Today

    1   Hakkie   70 (Jakobsen)
    2   Yellow_Knight   65 (Bennett and Gaviria)
    3   PremierAndrew   45 (Bennett and Boasson Hagen)
    4   5 Bennett teams   40
    10   TotalPackage   30   (Gaviria and Boasson Hagen)
    11   BluesInTheBottle, Mellow_Velo, Scrool07    25   (Gaviria)
    14   Josedin   16 (Mezgac and Richeze)
    15   Search   3 (Aberasturi)
    16   The rest   0

    Overall

    The top 7 are the 7 Bennett teams (he provides 112 points here).  Yellow Knight, who surely had an eye on this category in choosing both Bennett and Gaviria, moves up 8 places to 2nd, But DJSprtsch is still the only one with two stage winners.  Hakkie jumped from last to 12th with his unique pick being the winner today.

    1   DJSprtsch   196
    2   Yellow_Knight   155
    3   Kazistuta   151
    4   PremierAndrew   144
    5   BicycleBoy   141
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   140
    7   JustSomeGuy   129
    8   Ripley   109
    8   Salvarani   109
    10   Vladimir   99


    Main Game
    Slightly more GC change than yesterday, but not in the upper reaches, so not with many points changing.  But a hit for the Quintana teams in the points classification.
    The three teams who were at the bottom of yesterday's table are the three teams who suffer the loss of Kruijswijk today.  They did not lose many points from his standing this morning, but surely would have entertained hopes of his giving a bit more return on investment.

    JAKOBSEN Fabio   110pts    1 team
    BENNETT Sam   70   7
    MEZGEC Luka   33   2
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   25   6
    BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   8   2
    ...
    MEINTJES Louis   -7   8
    ROGLIC Primoz   -7   9
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   -7   3
    KRUIJSWIJK Steven   -15   3
    CRADDOCK Lawson   -37   1
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -45   5

    On the day
    1   Hakkie   101
    1   Yellow_Knight   101
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   78
    4   PremierAndrew   70
    5   Kazistuta   68
    6   JustSomeGuy   58
    7   Carlo_Algatrensig   50
    8   Josedin   36
    9   BicycleBoy   32
    10   TotalPackage   25
    11   Mellow_Velo   23
    12   BluesInTheBottle   19
    13   DJSprtsch   17
    14   Scrool07   16
    15   ArchieBoy   10
    16   Search   6
    17   Jakob747   5
    18   Bminchow   4
    19   Tobydawq   3
    20   Laarsland   1
    20   Rote_Laterne   1
    20   Triley36   1
    23   Koronin   -1
    24   Leadbelly   -2
    24   LosBrolin   -2
    26   Fauniera   -4
    27   Comodoro   -5
    28   BikeRacer33   -6
    29   Shalgo   -8
    30   AmisVelo   -10
    30   Del1962   -10
    32   Googolplex   -15
    33   Vladimir   -35
    34   Northerner   -43
    35   Salvarani   -47
    36   Ripley   -54
       Collective_Wisdom   80


    Standings
    No new entry into the top ten, but Vladimir, Armchair Cyclist and Kazistuta all move up one.  Premier Andrew is just outside the ten with a 5 place rise, but is outdone by Yellow Knight (6).
    1   Ripley   1169
    2   Northerner   1124
    2   Vladimir   1124
    4   Salvarani   1112
    5   DJSprtsch   1061
    6   Tobydawq   1001
    7   Triley36   982
    8   Armchair_Cyclist   952
    9   Kazistuta   931
    10   Comodoro   876
    11   PremierAndrew   843
    12   ArchieBoy   836
    13   Del1962   785
    14   Shalgo   779
    15   Leadbelly   778
    16   BikeRacer33   772
    17   Jakob747   770
    18   Fauniera   767
    19   TotalPackage   724
    20   BicycleBoy   723
    21   Laarsland   715
    22   Rote_Laterne   711
    23   Yellow_Knight   708
    24   Mellow_Velo   682
    25   LosBrolin   669
    26   Bminchow   667
    27   AmisVelo   666
    28   Josedin   654
    29   Googolplex   614
    30   Carlo_Algatrensig   599
    31   Search   565
    32   BluesInTheBottle   553
    33   JustSomeGuy   550
    34   Koronin   524
    35   Scrool07   490
    36   Hakkie   237
       Collective_Wisdom   865
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #23 on: August 28, 2019, 20:37 »
    Stage 5  First MTF  Javalambra Observatory

    Green points

    Today
    Sometimes those odd selections that end up being inexplicable rare picks pay off
    1   ArchieBoy   85 (Madrazo and Lopez)
    2   Hakkie   40 (Bol)
    3   Rote_Laterne   22 (Lopez and Roglic)
    4   BluesInTheBottle   21 (Lopez, Pogacar and Chaves)
    5   Northerner, Salvarani, Vladimir   19(Lopez, Quintana and Chaves)
    8   13 teams with Lopez&Chavez)   16

    Overall
    The top 4 remain the same, but not having Lopez cuts DJS's lead.  I am the highest placed riser, Hakkkie builds on yesterday's good day with another 3 places to get into the ten, and Archie leaps 17 places to appear in the top ten.
    1   DJSprtsch   200
    2   Yellow_Knight   171
    3   Kazistuta   167
    4   PremierAndrew   160
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   156
    6   BicycleBoy   149
    7   JustSomeGuy   129
    8   Salvarani   128
    9   Hakkie   125
    10   ArchieBoy   123


    Red points

    As the fancied riders rise to the top, the riders whose scores have plummeted were, largely, unselected.

    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   295 pts   20 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   179   9
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   148   2
    POGACAR Tadej   95   2
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   87   30
    BOL Jetse   85   1
    MADRAZO RUIZ Angel   80   1
    RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar   41   5
    MAJKA Rafal   30   4
    LATOUR Pierre   25   30
    ...
    KELDERMAN Wilco   -30   2
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -57   5
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander   -69   1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   -100   3
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   -106   6


    Big daily scores, mainly in the positive realm

    1   Rote_Laterne   518 (Lopez, Roglic and Latour)
    2   BluesInTheBottle   490 (Lopez, Pogacar and Chaves)
    3   Laarsland   456 Lopez, Chaves, Majka, Latour)
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   432
    5   Leadbelly   419
    6   TotalPackage   407
    7   PremierAndrew   391
    8   Mellow_Velo   389
    9   Vladimir   370
    10   Yellow_Knight   358
    11   ArchieBoy   351
    12   Triley36   348
    13   LosBrolin   342
    14   Northerner   340
    15   Scrool07   338
    16   Salvarani   332
    17   Kazistuta   328
    18   AmisVelo   320
    19   Tobydawq   315
    20   BicycleBoy   309
    21   Jakob747   307
    22   Comodoro   299
    23   Googolplex   286
    24   Fauniera   283
    25   Del1962   274
    26   Bminchow   257
    27   Search   254
    28   BikeRacer33   249
    29   Koronin   244
    30   Shalgo   185
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   117
    32   Hakkie   105
    33   DJSprtsch   66
    34   Josedin   33
    35   JustSomeGuy   -30
    36   Ripley   -63
       Collective_Wisdom   415

    Standings

    The rapid drop of the previous leader means nearly everyone in the top ten moves up, to varying degrees, with Vladimir wearing the leader's jersey.  Premier Andrew, Rote Laterne and Leadbelly are new members of the top ten, with Rote Laterne making a 13 place advance.


    1   Vladimir   1494
    2   Northerner   1464
    3   Salvarani   1444
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   1384
    5   Triley36   1330
    6   Tobydawq   1316
    7   Kazistuta   1259
    8   PremierAndrew   1234
    9   Rote_Laterne   1229
    10   Leadbelly   1197
    11   ArchieBoy   1187
    12   Comodoro   1175
    13   Laarsland   1171
    14   TotalPackage   1131
    15   DJSprtsch   1127
    16   Ripley   1106
    17   Jakob747   1077
    18   Mellow_Velo   1071
    19   Yellow_Knight   1066
    20   Del1962   1059
    21   Fauniera   1050
    22   BluesInTheBottle   1043
    23   BicycleBoy   1032
    24   BikeRacer33   1021
    25   LosBrolin   1011
    26   AmisVelo   986
    27   Shalgo   964
    28   Bminchow   924
    29   Googolplex   900
    30   Scrool07   828
    31   Search   819
    32   Koronin   768
    33   Carlo_Algatrensig   716
    34   Josedin   687
    35   JustSomeGuy   520
    36   Hakkie   342
       Collective_Wisdom   1280


    The top three all combine Lopez and Quintana (1st and 3rd on GC).  The Lopez-Roglic (1st and 2nd) only makes 9th, which I guess shows that stage placings and minor picks are not to be sneezed at.
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    « Reply #24 on: August 29, 2019, 05:49 »
    -30  better than expected
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #25 on: August 30, 2019, 01:13 »
    Stage 6 Breakaway to Ares del Maestrat

    Green points

    Some breakaways are full of riders who were seen as being good value picks, and fairly popular.  Today's wasn't.

    On the day
    1   Hakkie, Vladimir   15 (Gesink)
    3   Yellow_Knight   7 (Poljanski)
    4   Everyone else   0

    Overall
    The top ten includes all today's scorers, and therefore the only two to move up at all (the Gesink duo)
    1   DJSprtsch   200
    2   Yellow_Knight   178
    3   Kazistuta   167
    4   PremierAndrew   160
    5   Armchair_Cyclist   156
    6   BicycleBoy   149
    7   Hakkie   140
    8   Vladimir   133
    9   JustSomeGuy   129
    10   Salvarani   128


    Red points
    Not much action in the minor category today: here there was plenty, but for the most part unwelcome.  Some of today's losses will be temporary, others not, and the loss of Uran is fairly fatal to some managers' games.

    GESINK Robert   188 pts   2 teams
    POELS Wout   25   2
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   11   7
    ...
    LATOUR Pierre   -12   30
    POGACAR Tadej   -13   2
    JAKOBSEN Fabio   -15   1
    KELDERMAN Wilco   -15   2
    MAJKA Rafal   -15   4
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -25   30
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -60   5
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -85   2
    DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor   -104   2
    ROGLIC Primoz   -110   9
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -187   20
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   -215   3


    Hakkie, at least, has reason to be cheerful
    1   Hakkie   198
    2   JustSomeGuy   -4
    3   Josedin   -9
    4   Carlo_Algatrensig   -13
    5   Vladimir   -75
    6   DJSprtsch   -77
    7   Search   -113
    8   Koronin   -116
    9   Googolplex   -120
    10   AmisVelo   -123
    11   Del1962   -131
    12   Shalgo   -138
    13   LosBrolin   -141
    14   BicycleBoy   -143
    14   Bminchow   -143
    16   Fauniera   -167
    17   ArchieBoy   -179
    18   Jakob747   -185
    19   Scrool07   -195
    20   BluesInTheBottle   -204
    20   TotalPackage   -204
    22   Comodoro   -208
    22   PremierAndrew   -208
    24   Yellow_Knight   -212
    25   Kazistuta   -214
    26   Laarsland   -215
    27   Mellow_Velo   -218
    28   Leadbelly   -222
    29   BikeRacer33   -241
    30   Northerner   -274
    31   Salvarani   -278
    32   Rote_Laterne   -296
    33   Ripley   -303
    34   Armchair_Cyclist   -316
    35   Tobydawq   -417
    36   Triley36   -427
       Collective_Wisdom   -210

    Standings

    The leader yesterday, and with one of the less disastrous performances today, Vladimir now has more than 200 points advantage.  The three teams behind him maintain their positions, then we have DJSprtsch, who also lost far fewer points today than most teams, and so jumps into the top ten, with the biggest move forwards (10 places).  Archie and Comodoro also make their way into the ten, but rather less dramatically.

    1   Vladimir   1419
    2   Northerner   1190
    3   Salvarani   1166
    4   Armchair_Cyc list   1068
    5   DJSprtsch   1050
    6   Kazistuta   1045
    7   PremierAndrew   1026
    8   ArchieBoy   1008
    9   Leadbelly   975
    10   Comodoro   967
    11   Laarsland   956
    12   Rote_Laterne   933
    13   Del1962   928
    14   TotalPackage   927
    15   Triley36   903
    16   Tobydawq   899
    17   Jakob747   892
    18   BicycleBoy   889
    19   Fauniera   883
    20   LosBrolin   870
    21   AmisVelo   863
    22   Yellow_Knight   854
    23   Mellow_Velo   853
    24   BluesInTheBottle   839
    25   Shalgo   826
    26   Ripley   803
    27   Bminchow   781
    28   BikeRacer33   780
    28   Googolplex   780
    30   Search   706
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   703
    32   Josedin   678
    33   Koronin   652
    34   Scrool07   633
    35   Hakkie   540
    36   JustSomeGuy   516
       Collective_Wisdom   1070

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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #26 on: August 30, 2019, 21:27 »
    Stage 7  A muro

    Those who splashed out on the most expensive rider in the game will feel vindicated.

    Green points

    On the day

    1   Koronin, Search   73 (Valverde and Aru)
    3   Rote_Laterne   65 (Roglic and Lopez)
    4   LosBrolin   50 (Roglic and Majka)
    5   AmisVelo, BikeRacer33, Bminchow, Del1962, Googolplex (Roglic and Aru) Northerner, Salvarani, Vladimir (Lopez, Quintana and Aru)   43
    13   BicycleBoy,    Shalgo   40
    15   Leadbelly   38
    16   Laarsland   35
    17   BluesInTheBottle   30
    18   Lopez and Aru teams   28
    28   Lopez no Aru teams   25

    Overall

    The top three remain as they were, but Bicycle Boy moves up a couple of places behind them.  Vladimir, Salvarani and Northerner all move upwards, the last of these into the ten, but the big jumps lower down were Search (18 places) and Koronin (16), escaping last place.

    1   DJSprtsch   218
    2   Yellow_Knight   203
    3   Kazistuta   195
    4   BicycleBoy   189
    5   PremierAndrew   188
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   184
    7   Vladimir   176
    8   Salvarani   171
    9   Northerner   160
    10   ArchieBoy   148

    Red points

    For the highest placed GC men, this is largely a return to where they were at the end of stage 5.  No-one had picked either of today's DNFs.  Quintana takes the Green jersey, which causes additional shake up, to the detriment of the teams with Sam Bennett.

    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   242 pts   20 teams
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   220   2
    ROGLIC Primoz   180   9
    MAJKA Rafal   100   4
    POGACAR Tadej   88   2
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   70   5
    ARU Fabio   54   26
    HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   46   1
    KELDERMAN Wilco   30   2
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   25   30
    ...
    BOL Jetse   -27   1
    PADUN Mark   -35   8
    BENNETT Sam   -45   7
    GESINK Robert   -145   2


    Between today and yesterday, everyone has had one positive and one negative score .

    1   Leadbelly   450 (Lopez, Majka, Aru and Chaves)
    2   Rote_Laterne   416 (Lopez and Roglic)
    3   Salvarani   398 (Lopez, Quintana, Aru and Chaves)
    4   BluesInTheBottle   395 (Lopez Pogacar and Chaves)
    5   Laarsland   377
    6   Northerner   363
    7   Koronin   355
    8   TotalPackage   334
    9   Del1962   330
    10   Mellow_Velo   328
    11   Triley36   322
    12   Comodoro   316
    13   Fauniera   308
    14   Googolplex   306
    15   LosBrolin   301
    15   PremierAndrew   301
    17   Search   300
    18   Jakob747   289
    18   Tobydawq   289
    20   Armchair_Cyclist   277
    21   Vladimir   269
    22   AmisVelo   266
    22   BikeRacer33   266
    24   Kazistuta   248
    25   Scrool07   243
    26   Bminchow   232
    27   Yellow_Knight   222
    28   ArchieBoy   192
    29   Carlo_Algatrensig   186
    30   Shalgo   176
    31   BicycleBoy   161
    32   Ripley   157
    33   Josedin   134
    34   DJSprtsch   117
    35   JustSomeGuy   34
    36   Hakkie   -196
       Collective_Wisdom   242

    Standings

    Salvarani gains second place from Northern.  Behind our rookie, Leadbelly has moved up 5 and Rote Laterne 7, breaking into the top ten.  As does Laarsland, but Blues in the Bottle has the best (11 place) move.

    1   Vladimir   1688
    2   Salvarani   1564
    3   Northerner   1553
    4   Leadbelly   1425
    5   Rote_Laterne   1349
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   1345
    7   Laarsland   1333
    8   PremierAndrew   1327
    9   Kazistuta   1293
    10   Comodoro   1283
    11   TotalPackage   1261
    12   Del1962   1258
    13   BluesInTheBottle   1234
    14   Triley36   1225
    15   ArchieBoy   1200
    16   Fauniera   1191
    17   Tobydawq   1188
    18   Jakob747   1181
    18   Mellow_Velo   1181
    20   LosBrolin   1171
    21   DJSprtsch   1167
    22   AmisVelo   1129
    23   Googolplex   1086
    24   Yellow_Knight   1076
    25   BicycleBoy   1050
    26   BikeRacer33   1046
    27   Bminchow   1013
    28   Koronin   1007
    29   Search   1006
    30   Shalgo   1002
    31   Ripley   960
    32   Carlo_Algatrensig   889
    33   Scrool07   876
    34   Josedin   812
    35   JustSomeGuy   550
    36   Hakkie   344
       Collective_Wisdom   1312

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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #27 on: August 31, 2019, 21:06 »
    Stage 8 Big breakaway

    Green points

    On the day

    Unique picks earn their managers a mention

    1   Kazistuta   40 (Aranburu)
    2   Koronin   1 (Henao)
    3   Everyone else   0

    Overall

    Katusha is up from 3rd to 1st: Koronin remains 20th.

    1   Kazistuta   235
    2   DJSprtsch   218
    3   Yellow_Knight   203

    Red points

    Not for the first time, the main riders lose a lot of points, almost certainly only for 24 hours
    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander   41   1
    TUSVELD Martijn   11   1
    HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   10   1
    ...
    LATOUR Pierre   -24   30
    ARU Fabio   -31   26
    KELDERMAN Wilco   -38   2
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -50   5
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -55   30
    POGACAR Tadej   -65   2
    MAJKA Rafal   -75   4
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -75   2
    ROGLIC Primoz   -112   9
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -187   20


    This time, Hakkie doesn't quite buck the trend and remain in the black.

    1   Hakkie   -2
    2   JustSomeGuy   -80
    3   Josedin   -156
    4   Ripley   -161
    5   DJSprtsch   -172
    6   Koronin   -176
    7   Carlo_Algatrensig   -193
    8   Search   -195
    9   BicycleBoy   -201
    10   Shalgo   -211
    11   Scrool07   -221
    12   Bminchow   -223
    13   BikeRacer33   -228
    14   Googolplex   -236
    15   Yellow_Knight   -242
    16   AmisVelo   -244
    17   ArchieBoy   -251
    18   Kazistuta   -256
    19   LosBrolin   -278
    20   Del1962   -284
    21   Mellow_Velo   -297
    22   Jakob747   -303
    22   PremierAndrew   -303
    24   Tobydawq   -308
    25   TotalPackage   -309
    26   Fauniera   -310
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   -315
    27   Triley36   -315
    29   BluesInTheBottle   -321
    30   Comodoro   -323
    31   Rote_Laterne   -334
    32   Northerner   -347
    32   Salvarani   -347
    34   Laarsland   -356
    35   Vladimir   -377
    36   Leadbelly   -380
       Collective_Wisdom   -307

    Standings

    For the most part, this was a compacting of the table rather than great change.  But two managers make that not entirely the case: Kazistuta is up 4 places to 5th, and DJSprtsch has a 12 place leap into the top ten, mainly by virtue of having neither Lopez nor Roglic.


    1   Vladimir   1311
    2   Salvarani   1217
    3   Northerner   1206
    4   Leadbelly   1045
    5   Kazistuta   1037
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   1030
    7   PremierAndrew   1024
    8   Rote_Laterne   1015
    9   DJSprtsch   995
    10   Laarsland   977
    11   Del1962   974
    12   Comodoro   960
    13   TotalPackage   952
    14   ArchieBoy   949
    15   BluesInTheBottle   913
    16   Triley36   910
    17   LosBrolin   893
    18   AmisVelo   885
    19   Mellow_Velo   884
    20   Fauniera   881
    21   Tobydawq   880
    22   Jakob747   878
    23   Googolplex   850
    24   BicycleBoy   849
    25   Yellow_Knight   834
    26   Koronin   831
    27   BikeRacer33   818
    28   Search   811
    29   Ripley   799
    30   Shalgo   791
    31   Bminchow   790
    32   Carlo_Algatrensig   696
    33   Josedin   656
    34   Scrool07   655
    35   JustSomeGuy   470
    36   Hakkie   342
       Collective_Wisdom   1005

    I'm fairly sure most of today's changes will be reversed tomorrow, and probably something else dramatic as well.  But what?
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #28 on: September 01, 2019, 22:25 »
    Stage 9 Hailstorm in Andorra

    Green points

    On the day
    1   BluesInTheBottle   82 (Pogacar, Soler and Lopez)
    2   Josedin   75 (Pogacar and Higuita)
    3   Vladimir   52 (Quintana, Soler and Lopez)
    4   Salvarani   43 (Quintana, Lopez, Geoghegan Hart)
    5   Northerner   42
    6   DJSprtsch   41
    6   Ripley   41
    8   Del1962   38
    9   Googolplex   36
    10   Shalgo   30


    Overall

    DJSprtsch moves back to the top, and Vladimir has a 4 place jump to third, a rise matched by Salvarani just behind him.  Blues in the Bottle jumps 9 places into the top ten, but outside that group Josedin (10 places) and Googolplex (11), move up even faster.
    1   DJSprtsch   259
    2   Kazistuta   237
    3   Vladimir   228
    4   BicycleBoy   214
    4   Salvarani   214
    6   Yellow_Knight   206
    7   Northerner   202
    8   PremierAndrew   190
    9   BluesInTheBottle   189
    10   Armchair_Cyclist   186


    Red points
    Far from an exact reversal of yesterday's changes

    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   343   5
    POGACAR Tadej   175   2
    ROGLIC Primoz   135   9
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   50   2
    KELDERMAN Wilco   41   2
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   39   6
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   36   7
    BIZKARRA ETXEGIBEL Mikel   32   1
    ...
    BAUHAUS Phil   -15   8
    BENNETT Sam   -15   7
    HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis   -36   1
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -39   30
    LATOUR Pierre   -42   30
    ARU Fabio   -79   26


    A huge range of scores today, with the drop of the temporary interlopers allowing most of the big names to recoup their loses from yesterday, and more (but not the most popular of the big names), while the three most popular riders in the game, all in the mid-range for price, add to yesterday's losses.

    1   Vladimir   212
    2   Ripley   201
    3   Northerner   180
    4   DJSprtsch   175
    5   Salvarani   166
    6   BluesInTheBottle   152
    7   Josedin   97
    8   Shalgo   93
    9   Rote_Laterne   82
    10   Del1962   46
    11   LosBrolin   37
    12   BicycleBoy   35
    13   ArchieBoy   12
    14   Googolplex   10
    15   BikeRacer33   -10
    16   Hakkie   -12
    17   Bminchow   -13
    18   AmisVelo   -22
    19   Fauniera   -30
    20   Laarsland   -43
    21   JustSomeGuy   -45
    22   Scrool07   -49
    23   Yellow_Knight   -56
    24   Jakob747   -69
    25   Search   -114
    26   Koronin   -129
    27   Comodoro   -130
    28   Leadbelly   -141
    29   TotalPackage   -157
    30   Tobydawq   -161
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   -163
    32   Triley36   -171
    33   Mellow_Velo   -178
    34   PremierAndrew   -180
    35   Armchair_Cyclist   -186
    36   Kazistuta   -193
       Collective_Wisdom   -181

    Standings

    The overnight leader scored best today, and those who share the Lopez-Quintana pairing still share the virtual podium, albeit with 2nd and 3rd swapped over.  Behind them, DJSprtsch and Rote Laterne are up by 5 and 3 places respectively, followed by four teams entering the top ten, including former leader Ripley, back with a 21 place jump.

    1   Vladimir   1523
    2   Northerner   1386
    3   Salvarani   1383
    4   DJSprtsch   1170
    5   Rote_Laterne   1097
    6   BluesInTheBottle   1065
    7   Del1962   1020
    8   Ripley   1000
    9   ArchieBoy   961
    10   Laarsland   934
    11   LosBrolin   930
    12   Leadbelly   904
    13   BicycleBoy   884
    13   Shalgo   884
    15   AmisVelo   863
    16   Googolplex   860
    17   Fauniera   851
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   844
    18   Kazistuta   844
    18   PremierAndrew   844
    21   Comodoro   830
    22   Jakob747   809
    23   BikeRacer33   808
    24   TotalPackage   795
    25   Yellow_Knight   778
    26   Bminchow   777
    27   Josedin   753
    28   Triley36   739
    29   Tobydawq   719
    30   Mellow_Velo   706
    31   Koronin   702
    32   Search   697
    33   Scrool07   606
    34   Carlo_Algatrensig   533
    35   JustSomeGuy   425
    36   Hakkie   330
       Collective_Wisdom   824

    Rest day tomorrow: I hope to have time for some numbers.
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    Re: 2019 Vuelta CQ game
    « Reply #29 on: September 02, 2019, 23:32 »
    Rest Day 1

    Green points​

    which, after a rule change arising from discussion during the Tour, now consists only of stage points, not red jersey bonuses.  Those with a stage podium, or equivalent
    Rider   Stage points   Teams   
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   129   5   
    BENNETT Sam   112   7   
    ROGLIC Primoz   97   9   
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   97   2   
    JAKOBSEN Fabio   85   1   
    POGACAR Tadej   83   2   
    ARNDT Nikias   70   0   
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   70   0   

    MADRAZO RUIZ Angel   70   1   
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   59   20   
    TEUNS Dylan   47   0   
    ROCHE Nicolas   46   0   

    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander   42   1   
    BOL Jetse   40   1   
    MEZGEC Luka   40   2   
    THEUNS Edward   40   1   
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   25   6   
    GODON Dorian   25   0   
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jose   25   0   
    VAN DER SANDE Tosh   25   0



    I only put up the top ten most days: here is the whole lot, to see just how far behind you are.

    Position   Team   points   Key riders
    1   DJSprtsch   259   Quintana, Bennett   
    2   Kazistuta   237   Bennett, Lopez, Aranburu   
    3   Vladimir   228   Quintana, Lopez   
    4   BicycleBoy   214   Bennett,  Roglic   
    4   Salvarani   214   Quintana, Lopez   
    6   Yellow_Knight   206   Bennett, Lopez, Gaviria   
    7   Northerner   202   Quintana, Lopez   
    8   PremierAndrew   190   Bennett, Lopez   
    9   BluesInTheBottle   189   Pogacar, Lopez, Gaviria   
    10   Armchair_Cyclist   186   Bennett, Lopez   
    11   Ripley   172   
    12   Josedin   170   
    13   Rote_Laterne   157   
    14   ArchieBoy   155   
    15   Shalgo   152   
    16   Hakkie   140   
    17   JustSomeGuy   136   
    18   Del1962   131   
    19   Search   130   
    20   BikeRacer33   123   
    20   Googolplex   123   
    22   LosBrolin   120   
    23   AmisVelo   115   
    24   Koronin   114   
    25   Bminchow   112   
    26   Mellow_Velo   110   
    27   Leadbelly   107   
    28   TotalPackage   106   
    29   Comodoro   100   
    30   Fauniera   97   
    31   Carlo_Algatrensig   91   
    31   Tobydawq   91   
    31   Triley36   91   
    34   Laarsland   87   
    35   Jakob747   86   
    36   Scrool07   84   
       
       Collective_Wisdom   186   


    ​Red points


    But the riders rather than our teams  29 of them have the equivalent of a stage win or better


    Rider   Points   Teams   
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   717   5   
    ROGLIC Primoz   515   9   
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   435   20   
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   412   2   
    POGACAR Tadej   343   2   
    HAGEN Carl Fredrik   215   0   
    EDET Nicolas   208   0   
    TEUNS Dylan   203   0   

    MAJKA Rafal   177   4   
    KELDERMAN Wilco   159   2   
    MADRAZO RUIZ Angel   155   1   
    BENNETT Sam   137   7   
    NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel   127   0   
    PERNSTEINER Hermann   121   0   

    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   117   6   
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion   108   0   

    JAKOBSEN Fabio   105   1   
    ROCHE Nicolas   100   0   

    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   97   30   
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   94   0   
    BENNETT George   92   0   
    FUGLSANG Jakob   91   0   
    ARNDT Nikias   87   0   
    GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida   85   0   
    BOUCHARD Geoffrey   84   0   
    RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian   79   0   

    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   77   7   
    GESINK Robert   73   2   
    KNOX James   72   2


    Who has got the top teams to where they are?
    1   Vladimir   1523   Quintana, Lopez, Chaves, Soler, Gesink   
    2   Northerner   1386   Quintana, Lopez, Chaves   
    3   Salvarani   1383   Quintana, Lopez, Chaves   
    4   DJSprtsch   1170   Quintana, Bennett, Chaves   
    5   Rote_Laterne   1097   Roglic, Lopez   
    6   BluesInTheBottle   1065   Lopez, Pogacar, Chaves, Soler   
    7   Del1962   1020   Roglic, Kelderman, Chaves, Soler   
    8   Ripley   1000   Quintana, Chaves   
    9   ArchieBoy   961   Lopez, Higuita, Madrazo, Knox
    10   Laarsland   934   Lopez, Majka, Chaves, Soler

    Don't forget that the spreadsheet is available at Dropbox each day for any investigations or "what if" calculations.
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