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Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2020, 20:02 »
Trentin says hi. :P

 :S How could I forget about him?
Should have gone with Dainese or Groves then.
I'm pretty sure that's not my only mistake though.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #31 on: January 08, 2020, 08:49 »
    a couple of words about my team (ignoring those fairly "obvious" ones, picked 50+ times)

    SCHACHMANN Maximilian (1087, 2)
    He basically missed half of the season last year, and will win the Ardennes triple + the Olympics.

    MERLIER Tim (523, 5)
    Same here, just joined Corendon in June and still scored >500 points. Personally I'd say he's is better than guys like van Asbroeck or Planckaert who had 1000+ seasons with a more or less similar calendar.

    MOHORIC Matej (512, 14)
    Mohoric is always fun to follow, and I'd say especially in the classics there's more to expect from him this year.

    ROOSEN Timo (272, 5)
    In 2019 Roosen basically missed all his best races due to injury.

    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh (268, 43)
    Same here, after a good start to the season he had problems in the Tour and fell sick in Eneco (which was supposed to be his highlight of the year). A solid ~500pt should be possible again

    CORT NIELSEN Magnus (227, 38)
    Cort was actually one of my first picks, but then also one of the first to be scrapped again, as his sprinting speed basically has disappeared and as there are too many similar riders at Ef. Now he is back on, for a reason I don't really know :dizzy

    CANOLA Marco (205, 7)
    I wanted to have at least one of the new Gazprom recruitments, and I think (if he can motivate himself) from Chernetskiy, Strakhov and him, Canola just has the most potential.

    KREUZIGER Roman (204, 6)
    Not the rider he once was anymore, but Kreuziger is still strong in the classics (crashed in Fleche this year, so no points in the Ardennes from 2019) and also the Olympics should suit him.

    HERMANS Quinten (162, 10)
    I really couldn't miss a rider who started his (very limited) program on the road with 3 wins in 3 days in 2019.

    MOSCHETTI Matteo (160, 24)
    He really surprised me with some very strong showing, and probably would have scored way more without the injury in the 2nd half of the season. The fact that Degenkolb is gone now, shouldn't hurt either.

    VAKOC Petr (145, 20)
    Vakoc's results in Poland and so on looked promising enough for me to believe, that he will be back at his best again this season.

    WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads (137, 4)
    Würtz has never really delivered in the WT so far, but he really made a step up last year and looked great at times in the Tour and the races afterwards. Not sure about his role at ICA, but he said he'd get his chances to go for success himself.

    HAAS Nathan (118, 40)
    He'll probably be frustrating to follow for most of the season, but I'd be surprised not to see him in profit by the end of January.

    BATTAGLIN Enrico (112, 6)
    Bahrain is not really the team I was hoping him to join, but as long as Colbrelli doesn't decide to do the Giro in 2020, he should get his opportunities.

    LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose (106, 4)
    It can't get any worse, I guess. He should get all backing he needs back home at #euskadi , and on paper, most of those early races in Spain should be pretty good for him.

    CELANO Danilo (102, 3)
    :cheer

    THWAITES Scott (79, 4)
    Van der Poel can't do every race, I guess. Give Thwaites a muddy, cobbled semi-classic at freezing temperatures, and he'll win it.

    GENIEZ Alexandre (68, 42)
    I don't really know much about his problems in 2019, but if he only needs to get somewhat close to his normal level again to end up with a good profit.

    BUSATO Matteo (58, 1)
    Busato had some good seasons at #fluo before, Vini Zabu should be bad enough for him to get the leader's role plenty of times, and the team's usual interest in the Coppa Italia (with guys also sprinting for 5th) shouldn't hurt either.

    TOUPALIK Adam (34, 3)
    First full season on the road for Toupalik. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a handful of wins

    BANASZEK Alan (5, 5)
    Same here. Back home in Poland young Alan should deliver strong results in the sprints - and if some Polish 2.1 races turn out to be flat enough for the sprinters to feature in GC, even better.


    Popular picks I missed:

    SIMMONS Quinn (0, 76)
    CAVENDISH Mark (25, 70)
    PINOT Thibaut (861, 60)
    MOSCON Gianni (424, 57)
    ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo (44, 57)
    BARDET Romain (734, 54)
    BOUHANNI Nacer (276, 52)

    apart from Pinot, I never really considered any of those, tbh.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #32 on: January 08, 2020, 10:49 »
    Thirteen uniques, but that's not good enough to be bottom of the popularity table again.  :(

    To be fair the two teams below do only have 25 riders which kinda helps keeping the score down, and one of them will be over budget when the spelling mistake is spotted.

    Ignoring those picked by ten or more teams, here are the rest of the team.

    BANASZEK Alan (5)

    Same reasons as search. :P

    MARTIN Daniel (4)

    At one point I only had one I-SUN rider on the team and it was Cousin Dan. I can't see him scoring massively, but maybe he can get all of his cost back with a little bit of profit.

    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander (3)

    Not so sure about this pick on reflection. Was probably too swayed by his Vuelta stage 2 performance, but we'll see.

    MOLENAAR Alex (3)

    Winner of the Turul Romaniei! Need I say anymore? Well okay, in a team of such low quality as Burgos he should get free-rein almost immediately to ride for himself.

    VERVAEKE Louis (3)

    It's unlikely he'll ever get back to the form of his Lotto U23 days, but he's better than the results and scores from his previous years.

    BAUGNIES Jérôme (3)

    He was almost going to be my Continental Dominator selection, but I decided to keep him for myself. Canyon had a good season last year in Europe and that (+ Baugnies himself) might open the door to a few more race invitations.

    TOUPALIK Adam (3)

    Same as search. :P

    SCHACHMANN Maximilian (2)

    Not convinced his scoring will be enhanced massively by riding both the Giro and Vuelta. I would have preferred to see him focusing on week long stage races in addition to the obvious one day events. Still with him being nearly unique it might help the chances of some of us getting mentioned in the weekly updates.

    PICCOLI James (2)

    399 is too much for his first year at WT. We can but hope for a Woods-esque transformation.

    CHERKASOV Nicolay (1)

    Nobody else took this gamble then. Once the team knew Vlasov was going to be off, Nicolay got a lot more freedom in the second half of the season and it showed in his points haul. I don't see why he can't better Vlasov's 645 from 2019.

    GABBURO Davide (1)

    This was my pick for the next Savio rider to step up to the mark. Probably closer in profile to Vendrame than Masnada or Cattaneo. Should do okay in the Italian and French calendar.

    SCHELLING Patrick (1)

    Probably not going to be too exciting a selection. Needs to accumulate points in the smaller races (ie San Juan) when Hermans and Martin aren't around.

    TUREK Daniel (1)

    Should be fun to follow Dan when he gets his freedom with the devo team in various .2 races.

    BASSETT Stephen (1)

    Nearly won the US Nats. Punchy and aggressive. I'm hoping he can show something on the European calendar for Rally.

    CAÑAVERAL VARGAS Jonathan (1)

    Got high hopes here. Already has some experience of riding in Europe which is always good. Signed for Giotti Victoria which should see him ride all three Romanian 2.1 races (a rich source of points), Japan, some of the bigger Italian stage races and maybe even Langkawi?

    SLEEN Torjus (1)

    Was dragging Foss and Leknessund around last year to lots of wins. Foss has left now though and with Sleen ageing out of the U23 bracket, he might not have the same calendar as Leknessund any more. I hope so anyway as he has some talent in his own right.

    ÄRM Rait (1)

    Vahtra scored big for Tartu last year when they were just a club. Now that they've moved up to CT they should have a better calendar for the next sprint talent in line.

    KOOISTRA Marten (1)

    He didn't do enough to earn a pro-contract in his final year at SEG, but going to BEAT is a good move. A Budding/Havik-eque year would be nice.

    EINHORN Itmar (1)

    I think we could see the first (?) male Israeli UCI win outside Israel this year. If Einhorn (or Niv) drops down the devo team for the right .2 race they have it in them to get that important victory.

    HINDSGAUL MADSEN Jacob (1)

    Me and Scandis don't usually get along in in CQ, but here's another one. Good climber. I was reading that he beat some record of Gregaard's on a climb (of course I can't find the article now).

    MILES Carson (1)

    Ex-Floyds. Can TT and climb a bit, but still very young. More for interest in the devo team when Turek is off with the main team.

    FANCELLU Alessandro (1)

    Oi Flo! I thought you said you were handicapping yourself with all your Kometa boys. All I see are ex-Kometa riders on your team. Never mind, I'll represent the current Kometa in 2020 since your faith is lacking ( :P). In all seriousness though he should be one of their main men (after Dina) and should score okay.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #33 on: January 08, 2020, 11:19 »
    some guys I really wanted but couldn't fit in - so you can expect them to have a massive turnaround :P

    KÄMNA Lennard (155, 46)
    He looked so strong in the Tour, that it's hard to not see him having his breakthrough this year - but how much freedom will he have in a new team with at least Buchmann, Schachmann, Majka, Konrad and Großschartner with GC ambitions?

    KANKOVSKY Alois (122, 0)
    6 wins early on in 2019 before breaking his leg in June. He could potentially double that and also the Czech Nationals are fairly flat this year, but no idea how he'll recover from that injury at the age of 36, and it's not like he will score 500 points anyway.

    KIRSCH Alex (85, 1)
    Always fun to follow, and in his 2nd year at Trek (and with Degenkolb and Felline leaving) he should get more opportunities himself now.

    FILOSI Iuri (39, 0)
    Back in Italy to lead Bardiani after two sh*t years at Delko. He has the talent to equal his 2017 score (271) I guess, but in the end I was too worried about him being in the mix all the time, but not quite quick enough to really score big.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #34 on: January 08, 2020, 15:44 »
    some guys I really wanted but couldn't fit in - so you can expect them to have a massive turnaround :P

    KÄMNA Lennard (155, 46)
    He looked so strong in the Tour, that it's hard to not see him having his breakthrough this year - but how much freedom will he have in a new team with at least Buchmann, Schachmann, Majka, Konrad and Großschartner with GC ambitions?

    KANKOVSKY Alois (122, 0)
    6 wins early on in 2019 before breaking his leg in June. He could potentially double that and also the Czech Nationals are fairly flat this year, but no idea how he'll recover from that injury at the age of 36, and it's not like he will score 500 points anyway.

    KIRSCH Alex (85, 1)
    Always fun to follow, and in his 2nd year at Trek (and with Degenkolb and Felline leaving) he should get more opportunities himself now.

    FILOSI Iuri (39, 0)
    Back in Italy to lead Bardiani after two sh*t years at Delko. He has the talent to equal his 2017 score (271) I guess, but in the end I was too worried about him being in the mix all the time, but not quite quick enough to really score big.

    KÄMNA looked very strong at times last year, so much so that I put him down on my riders to watch list.

    And of course Alex would've been the cherry on the cake.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #35 on: January 08, 2020, 16:04 »
    OK, my rationale for the team that has it in the bag.

    SAGAN Peter

    Surely he will have a better year than last year and can reach at least 2,000 points. Potential for many more especially given he's doing two GTs - that was the decider.

    EVENEPOEL Remco

    Well, a phenomenon, and one who will get to choose his calendar. Already in for the Olympics.

    PINOT Thibaut

    Would've been hugely better without injuring himself at the Tour, really impressed me last year, perhaps the altitude training that he didn't believe in before. Plus he's very likeable.

    YATES Simon


    A huge year in 2018 showed his limits. On his day as good as anyone.

    HIRSCHI Marc

    IMO a massive talent, expect to see him on more podiums this year.

    MOSCON Gianni


    Talent to burn, albeit an unpleasant individual. Showed signs last year, but INEOS don't really have anyone else for the classics except Flower.

    LATOUR Pierre

    Injury permitting.

    DUMOULIN Tom

    Obvious

    ROOSEN Timo

    Will do better than last year, although will have to fight with Teunissen, Wout and others for leadership.

    OOMEN Sam

    Injury permitting.

    RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan

    Androni, should be leader.

    VAKOC Petr

    Injury permitting.

    FOSS Tobias Svendsen
    GROVES Kaden
    VAN WILDER Ilan
    BAGIOLI Andrea
    RIES Michel
    RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto
    OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro
    ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo
    JERMAN Ziga
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso
    COVI Alessandro
    ARENSMAN Thymen
    RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
    SIMMONS Quinn


    Exciting kids. Always far more interesting to follow a few youngsters as the payback is bigger if they get an unexpected result. Could've put Remco in here too but he's a bit different.


    FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben

    Should be leader at Euskadi.

    FROOME Chris

    Who's this bloke?

    POWER Robert

    Bags of talent, was told when he signed that the first year he'd be a dom, clearly the second year should be different with the lack of other climbers except babies.

    KIRYIENKA Vasil

    Picked for ITT, olympics

    CAVENDISH Mark

    Probably a waste of 25 points

    KANTER Max

    Has plenty of talent, unlucky last year.

    DE BIE Sean

    No brainer.

    I missed Modolo and a couple of others but hey, am I bovvered?  :shh
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #36 on: January 08, 2020, 16:32 »
    Thirteen uniques, but that's not good enough to be bottom of the popularity table again.  :(

    To be fair the two teams below do only have 25 riders which kinda helps keeping the score down, and one of them will be over budget when the spelling mistake is spotted.

    Ignoring those picked by ten or more teams, here are the rest of the team.

    BANASZEK Alan (5)

    Same reasons as search. :P

    MARTIN Daniel (4)

    At one point I only had one I-SUN rider on the team and it was Cousin Dan. I can't see him scoring massively, but maybe he can get all of his cost back with a little bit of profit.

    ARANBURU DEBA Alexander (3)

    Not so sure about this pick on reflection. Was probably too swayed by his Vuelta stage 2 performance, but we'll see.

    MOLENAAR Alex (3)

    Winner of the Turul Romaniei! Need I say anymore? Well okay, in a team of such low quality as Burgos he should get free-rein almost immediately to ride for himself.

    VERVAEKE Louis (3)

    It's unlikely he'll ever get back to the form of his Lotto U23 days, but he's better than the results and scores from his previous years.

    BAUGNIES Jérôme (3)

    He was almost going to be my Continental Dominator selection, but I decided to keep him for myself. Canyon had a good season last year in Europe and that (+ Baugnies himself) might open the door to a few more race invitations.

    TOUPALIK Adam (3)

    Same as search. :P

    SCHACHMANN Maximilian (2)

    Not convinced his scoring will be enhanced massively by riding both the Giro and Vuelta. I would have preferred to see him focusing on week long stage races in addition to the obvious one day events. Still with him being nearly unique it might help the chances of some of us getting mentioned in the weekly updates.

    PICCOLI James (2)

    399 is too much for his first year at WT. We can but hope for a Woods-esque transformation.

    CHERKASOV Nicolay (1)

    Nobody else took this gamble then. Once the team knew Vlasov was going to be off, Nicolay got a lot more freedom in the second half of the season and it showed in his points haul. I don't see why he can't better Vlasov's 645 from 2019.

    GABBURO Davide (1)

    This was my pick for the next Savio rider to step up to the mark. Probably closer in profile to Vendrame than Masnada or Cattaneo. Should do okay in the Italian and French calendar.

    SCHELLING Patrick (1)

    Probably not going to be too exciting a selection. Needs to accumulate points in the smaller races (ie San Juan) when Hermans and Martin aren't around.

    TUREK Daniel (1)

    Should be fun to follow Dan when he gets his freedom with the devo team in various .2 races.

    BASSETT Stephen (1)

    Nearly won the US Nats. Punchy and aggressive. I'm hoping he can show something on the European calendar for Rally.

    CAÑAVERAL VARGAS Jonathan (1)

    Got high hopes here. Already has some experience of riding in Europe which is always good. Signed for Giotti Victoria which should see him ride all three Romanian 2.1 races (a rich source of points), Japan, some of the bigger Italian stage races and maybe even Langkawi?

    SLEEN Torjus (1)

    Was dragging Foss and Leknessund around last year to lots of wins. Foss has left now though and with Sleen ageing out of the U23 bracket, he might not have the same calendar as Leknessund any more. I hope so anyway as he has some talent in his own right.

    ÄRM Rait (1)

    Vahtra scored big for Tartu last year when they were just a club. Now that they've moved up to CT they should have a better calendar for the next sprint talent in line.

    KOOISTRA Marten (1)

    He didn't do enough to earn a pro-contract in his final year at SEG, but going to BEAT is a good move. A Budding/Havik-eque year would be nice.

    EINHORN Itmar (1)

    I think we could see the first (?) male Israeli UCI win outside Israel this year. If Einhorn (or Niv) drops down the devo team for the right .2 race they have it in them to get that important victory.

    HINDSGAUL MADSEN Jacob (1)

    Me and Scandis don't usually get along in in CQ, but here's another one. Good climber. I was reading that he beat some record of Gregaard's on a climb (of course I can't find the article now).

    MILES Carson (1)

    Ex-Floyds. Can TT and climb a bit, but still very young. More for interest in the devo team when Turek is off with the main team.

    FANCELLU Alessandro (1)

    Oi Flo! I thought you said you were handicapping yourself with all your Kometa boys. All I see are ex-Kometa riders on your team. Never mind, I'll represent the current Kometa in 2020 since your faith is lacking ( :P). In all seriousness though he should be one of their main men (after Dina) and should score okay.


    There's some proper sh*te (unknowns) or is it unknowns (sh*te) in there LB. Cherkasov and Molenaar look like good picks though.   :lol
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #37 on: January 08, 2020, 16:53 »
    Time will tell if they're gold or iron pyrite, but it should be fun following them, which is the main thing.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #38 on: January 08, 2020, 16:57 »
    Time will tell if they're gold or iron pyrite, but it should be fun following them, which is the main thing.

    I'm curious about Molenaar as he referred to himself as the new Sagan in an interview. May have been tongue-in-cheek, but he doesn't appear to lack confidence.
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    Oi Flo! I thought you said you were handicapping yourself with all your Kometa boys. All I see are ex-Kometa riders on your team. Never mind, I'll represent the current Kometa in 2020 since your faith is lacking ( :P). In all seriousness though he should be one of their main men (after Dina) and should score okay.

    Haha, yeah I meant former Kometa boys :P Those 5 boys (Moschetti, Oldani, Lopez, Ries and Inkelaar) are all good friends still. Let's call them the 5 musketeers :P

    Fancellu is an interesting pick, Kometa's 2020 roster doesn't look as stacked so he should have a lot of freedom. Dina is of course the main man, but who knows, he might be on Androni for the Giro if the rumors are to be believed. Watch out for Garcia though, he is really punchy, but suffered with illness last year. Ropero is also pretty allround, although not as good a climber as Oldani was.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #40 on: January 08, 2020, 17:35 »
    Thirteen uniques, but that's not good enough to be bottom of the popularity table again.  :(

    To be fair the two teams below do only have 25 riders which kinda helps keeping the score down, and one of them will be over budget when the spelling mistake is spotted.
    MUNOZ for MUÑOZ?  Spotted and reported (with 4 other typos) to Skidmark last night.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #41 on: January 08, 2020, 18:00 »
    Here is my team:

    PINOT Thibaut   861
    BARDET Romain   734
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   645
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   453
    LATOUR Pierre   352
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc   350
    DUMOULIN Tom   341
    VAN POPPEL Danny   334
    BOUHANNI Nacer   276
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   268
    BALLERINI Davide   252
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus   227
    BARBIER Pierre   213
    CANOLA Marco   205
    DAINESE Alberto   201
    FELLINE Fabio   199
    ARU Fabio   194
    OOMEN Sam   179
    MOSCHETTI Matteo   160
    KÄMNA Lennard   155
    LONARDI Giovanni   138
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   125
    HAAS Nathan   118
    DILLIER Silvan   101
    OLDANI Stefano   90
    BAGIOLI Andrea   83
    RIES Michel   58
    POWER Robert   56
    MÄDER Gino   50
    INKELAAR Kevin   36
    VICHOT Arthur   28
    KANTER Max   8
    DE BIE Sean   5


    I really wanted Mohoric on my team, and he was on it for a long time. Unfortunately in the end I had to sacrifice him to fit in Bardet. I don't really rate Bardet that highly but I can't deny his skill as a bike rider, and after I learned of his schedule I had to get him on my team. To make room for him I also had to get rid of De la Cruz, but that gave me space for Inkelaar.
    No unique picks, but I'll elaborate on the rarer picks

    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan - 453 points - 10 picks
    I had him last year, so I followed his performance in the classics very closely. I think with a bit more experience he can be excellent in those races and he has the speed to get top results. I think this could be his breakout year so I am happy to see he isn't that popular.

    VAN POPPEL Danny - 334 points - 22 picks
    I would have expected him on more teams - yes, he is a bit expensive but he has shown he can at least double his 2019 score previously, and on Wanty he should be the top sprinter and have a lot of opportunities and an excellent race programme.

    BALLERINI Davide - 252 points - 22 picks
    I actually wanted him on my team last year, but then he got brutally expensive in the last few weeks of his season. While he won't race much of the Italian one day race calendar, he is on the best possible team to excel in the spring classics. He already showed some promise in 2019, and I only expect him to get better. He's also very fast which is always an advantage and will boost his score in one day races.

    BARBIER Pierre - 213 points - 2 picks
    Almost unique - I didn't expect him to be so rare. I needed a sprinter for the French calendar and as he's really young and already super fast, I see a lot of potential. Hopefully he will get opportunities and won't be wasted as a leadout for Grosu or Jules.

    CANOLA Marco - 205 points - 7 picks
    One of my toughest picks. I don't know why he scored so poorly which made me hesitate to pick him. However just looking at his potential, based on 2017/2018, he should be able to at least double his score.

    FELLINE Fabio - 199 points - 17 picks
    Basically one of the most allround riders in the peloton, if he's feeling good he can deliver everywhere except maybe the highest mountains. This is the third year in a row he's on my team (yes, I also picked him when he was 700 points), I am not sure he can get back to his best level. The viral infection seems to have hit him hard. However, if he can shine on any team it should be Astana.

    MOSCHETTI Matteo - 160 points - 24 picks
    I picked him last year for pretty much the same price, and with a year of experience on WT level I see no reason to have less faith in him. He actually delivered some great results, but was also unlucky with some crashes and injuries. Hopefully he has better luck this season.

    LONARDI Giovanni - 138 points - 2 picks
    As always I wanted a sprinter for the Italian and Asian scene, and Lonardi fits in perfectly. He's young, fast, and bound to ride quite a few races in Asia. He should get plenty of opportunities to score.

    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro - 125 points - 5 picks
    OLDANI Stefano   - 90 points - 2 picks
    RIES Michel - 58 points - 5 picks
    INKELAAR Kevin   - 36 points - 9 picks
    All these are on my team for the same reason: they are all former Kometa riders (of course Moschetti is one too), which makes it interesting for me to follow and cheer for them. Lopez and Oldani I would normally consider a bit too expensive for neo pro climbers, but we will see what they can deliver.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #42 on: January 09, 2020, 21:46 »
    Rare pick Durbridge started the season like last year.  :party Hope the game ends better for me.  :party :party :party
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #43 on: January 14, 2020, 15:37 »
    Update #1: the asian gets top points from Australia



    Well, the teams are in, the Aussie nats are done, and the first week's results are in for some CQ catnip for 113 players who entered the week tied for first. The future is bright for everyone's team right now, but a few teams get the edge in our first tangible results of 2020.



    Top 10 on the Week and Overall




    Rank   Team   Points
    1   the asian   137
    2   will10   112
    3   dimasotf   107
    4   Mayomaniac   90
    4   rote_laterne   90
    6   Falze   82
    7   greenedge   65
    7   Marek   65
    9   Eric10   60


    There are 20 teams tied for 10th at 59 points.



    Since no one in the game had the finally-national-champ Cam Meyer and his 100 points, scores were kept relatively low in this initial week. The 3 teams that picked Luke Durbridge got his 90 points, but only one of them added points from another rider (the teams tied for 4th are the other two). the asian had Durbo's 90 point springboard to combine with 47 points from the considerably more popular Nathan Haas (40 teams) to get to the winning total of 137. will10 gets 30 points from Rohan Dennis (3 teams) and 35 from Jay McCarthy (8 teams) to combine with Haas to nab 2nd at 112 points, while dimasotf has 60 from Lucas Hamilton (2 teams) to combine with Haas and gets 107 points.



    Obviously no high movers this week as everyone started tied for first; I'll be counting green jersey points this week but the update/weekly/green jersey tabs are still a construction site (I need to update with this year's teams but haven't had time yet, basically). Those will be online for next week; in the meantime, the individual team tabs have been trimmed down to those participating this year, thanks to those who've pointed out spelling errors etc so far, keep them coming if you notice them!



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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #44 on: January 21, 2020, 16:14 »
    Update #2: It's a 2.2 Kinda Week



    Quite often the week after the CQ game opens, there's a bit of a lull before the TDU sees the World Tour level teams hit the pavement, and the game has a bit of a quiet week. No exception this time, with a few picks riding the 2.2 Vuelta al Tachira or New Zealand Cycling Classic. CQ included the points from the first stage of Tropicale Amissa Bongo (which is strange since the update is dated January 19th but the stage was on the 20th), and that ended up determining the winner of the week. Well, CQ defines our weeks around these parts, so that's how it goes.



    This Week's Top Scorers




    Rank   Team   Points this week
    1   Fivezzz   37
    2   adamski101   32
    3   Blues in the bottle   27
    3   Jakob747   27
    3   triley36   27


    Elia's little brother was picked by 8 teams, and winning the opening stage in Gabon got Attilio Viviani 20 points for the win and 6 for the leader's jersey. Newcomer Fivezzz supplements that with 10 points from Luca Pacioni (4 teams) in Tachira and a single point from Jefferson Cepeda in the same race. That's enough for the weekly win! adamski101 nabs second with a similar combo, swapping out Pacioni for young Eritrean Biniam Girmay Hailu (5 points, 7 teams). A trio of teams tie for third with 27 points; two of them with Viviani/Cepeda, and triley36 with 24 points from Kevin Rivera (4 teams) and 3 for Daniel Munoz (2 teams)... which means that without Gabon's results, triley36 would have led the week.



    This Week's High Movers




    Rank   Team   Up/down
    1   Muddy_Waters   (+35)
    2   Fivezzz   (+14)
    3   adamski101   (+13)
    4   Blues in the bottle   (+11)
    4   Jakob747   (+11)
    4   triley36   (+11)


    It can only really happen in the second week of the season, but the leader in this category almost moved as many spots as the leader of the prior category got points! Muddy Waters managed to get in a place mid-table last week on McCarthy's 35 points, to where Viviani's 26 points leveraged their team quite a large leap in the standings! A fortuitous confluence of events. Fivezzz and adamski101 repeat their podium standing from the other ranking here with double-digit moves.



    Green Jersey Competition



    Rank   Team   Total
    1   will10   47
    2   Fivezzz   45
    2   the asian   45
    4   adamski101   35
    5   greenedge   34


    will10 manages to quickly move beyond the maximum weekly points total (refresher - the points here are awarded to the top 15 places weekly on a scale based off the TdF flat stage finish points from a few years back before they made it more top-heavy), leveraging 35 points for second place last week and 12 points for a 10th place finish this week to move clear of the field. The two weekly winners so far are tied for second. greenedge somehow managed to get 17 points both weeks, even though that's not an actual score for a placing (tied teams are given the average of the tied spots, ie if teams would have gotten 18 and 16 points for the two spots that are tied, I give them each 17). Anyway, the competition is underway!



    Top 10 Overall



    Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
    1   (-)   
    the asian
    147
    2   (-)   will10   137
    3   (-)   dimasotf   107
    4   (-)   Mayomaniac   100
    5   (+2)   greenedge   91
    6   (-2)   rote_laterne   90
    7   (-1)   Falze   82
    8   (+2)   Tsyka   74
    9   (+1)   Squire   70
    10   (-)   ThePirate81   69


    Not a lot of movement but 7 of the teams in the top 10 scored some points this week (and 50 teams overall did). the asian holds onto the lead and the podium is identical to last week.



    This week with the TDU offering lots of points should see a shakeup, as well as some riders in Gabon that will continue to score for some teams.



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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #45 on: January 28, 2020, 01:01 »
    Update #3: Object Lesson on How to Win a CQ Week



    The CQ manager game kicked into high gear this week, with results from Gabon but most importantly the first World Tour points of the year in the TdU. The winners of both of these races were only chosen by two teams, so there is some stratification at the top, and of course with so many points on offer, the table is in upheaval.



    This Week's Top Scorers



    Rank   Team   Points this week
    1   Object   564
    2   Nicosix   485
    3   ChrisDK   430
    4   zaka_fan   390
    5   will10   338


    Porte with his 386 points - already at 59% of his 2019 score - would be good enough for 5th place on this table on their own, so it was always likely that the winning team would be one of the two that chose Porte. And indeed, Object runs away with the week combining Porte points with 121 points from Simon Yates (a bit more popular, on 84 teams) and a decent 37 from Rob Power and finishing points from a few others. Nicosix nabs a very good second place without Porte, but a well-rounded team effort thanks mainly to Yates, Sam Bennett (117 points, 5 teams), surprise Gabon winner Jordan Levasseur (120 points at a cost of 4!, 2 teams), and rare picks Biniam Hailu and Jeremy Cabot pick some up as well. ChrisDK nabs a podium spot as the other Porte-haver.



    This Week's High Movers



    Rank   Team   Up/down
    1   ChrisDK   (+84)
    2   Riverside   (+64)
    3   hfgon1   (+63)
    4   CQPlayer7373   (+58)
    5   Yellow Knight   (+52)


    Well. You know there's going to be some serious movement in the first real points week of the season, and there certainly was.  ChrisDK went from zero points on the season to getting 430 this week, so an 84 spot jump in a competition with 113 teams is about as big as it gets (88 teams had scored a point before this week). Riverside rode Yates, Philipsen (111, 2 teams) and unique pick Emmanuel Morin (82 points) to a 64 spot jump, and hfgon1 celebrates a 63 spot jump as one of the 2 teams to pick Matthew Holmes (60 points), as well as George Bennett (90) and Yates.



    Green Jersey Competition




    Rank   Team   Total
    1   will10   69
    2   Object   45
    2   the asian   45
    2   Fivezzz   45
    5   greenedge   42


    Object takes 45 points to tie the other two weekly winners on the table, while will10 extends their lead by scoring the third week in a row (22 points this time). greenedge also scores for the third week in a row, netting 8 more points to land in the top 5 here.



    Top 10 Overall




    Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
    1   (+35)   
    Object
    611
    2   (+50)   Nicosix   515
    3   (-1)   will10   475
    4   (+10)   zaka_fan   450
    5   (+84)   ChrisDK   430
    6   (-3)   dimasotf   393
    7   (+7)   18-Valve. (pithy)   391
    8   (-3)   greenedge   382
    9   (+9)   del1962   380
    10   (+1)   Marek   374


    Three teams from last week's top 10 remain this week - the aforementioned consistent will10 and greenedge, as well as dimasotf.  But last week's leader the asian falls to 12th, and this week's top 2 on the week leap 35 and 50 spots to become the top 2 overall. This week, the points keep coming from a variety of places: currently in San Juan, the new 1.1 Race Torquay and then the Cadel race in Australia, and of course, the start of racing in Europe with the Mallorca Challenge and finally the continental opener in Marseille on Sunday.



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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #46 on: January 28, 2020, 07:25 »
    Everybody's off the mark! :cool
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #47 on: February 05, 2020, 03:01 »
    Update #4: Hakkie 2 Good for the Competition



    With San Juan and Mallorca, as well as a couple of races in Australia and the Colombian nats, there were a wealth of races without giant points in any given one, but some of the weekly scores approached the big weeks to follow later in the year with multiple WT races! It was a very good week for some teams indeed.



    This Week's Top Scorers




    Rank   Team   Points this week
    1   Hakkie2   817
    2   Jakob747   722
    3   western_grebe   649
    4   EvansIsTheBest   646
    5   christopherrowe   626


    Last year's podium finisher Hakkie2 wins the week with an incredible 817 points, beating every team but Jakob747 by over 100. Of course, if you're paying attention you'd have guessed that the winning team this week had to have Remco Evenepoel, who picked up a solid 210 points for the 26 teams who thought he'd still be a good pickup after his remarkable rookie year. As well, the 24 teams who picked the somewhat cheaper and somewhat older sophomore Matteo Moschetti had to be thrilled with his two wins in Mallorca, breaking even with 2019 after two days. Hakkie had them both. Aside from next highest scorer Marc Soler (88 points, 74 teams), most of the rest of the good points on Hakkie's team (83 from Gaviria, 62 McCarthy, 44 Fernandez, 40 Dainese) came from riders picked by 30 teams or fewer. A great start to the season. Jakob747, as mentioned, landed in second thanks to Evenepoel and Moschetti, and to rare picks Higuita (100 points, 4 teams) and Muhlberger (88 points, 2 teams). Game newcomer western grebe nabs third, edging out game veteran EvansIsTheBest by 3 points.



    This Week's High Movers



    Rank   Team   Up/down
    1   christopherrowe   (+75)
    2   Bicycle_Boy   (+74)
    3   Jakob747   (+65)
    4   Kazistuta   (+60)
    5   Otoxiep87   (+58)
    5   triley36   (+58)


    Wow, some real jumps this week, and such a close race at the top of this classification. christopherrowe leaps an astounding 75 spots with a 'go big or go home' lineup of rare riders: unique pick Dries Devenyns really pays off with 180 points for winning in Australia (and is at 234 at a cost of 173 already), and the aforementioned Moschetti and Higuita. Bicycle Boy comes oh so close, but will have to be consoled with a 74 spot leap in the standings thanks to Remco, Moschetti, McNulty and Gaviria, while Jakob747 doubles up on the podiums this week.



    Green Jersey Competition



    Rank   Team   Total
    1   will10   69
    2   Jakob747   61
    3   Fivezzz   55
    4   Hakkie2   45
    4   the asian   45
    4   Object   45


    This week is the first this year where will10 isn't in the top 15 of the week. That allows teams like Jakob747 (26 Green Jersey points on the week) and Fivezzz (10 on the week) to gain a bit, while Hakkie2 joins the ranks of weekly winners in the logjam at 4th place.



    Top 10 Overall




    Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
    1   (+55)   
    Hakkie2
    1010
    2   (+22)   western_grebe   948
    3   (+1)   zaka_fan   931
    4   (+28)   EvansIsTheBest   926
    5   (+5)   Marek   896
    6   (+65)   Jakob747   888
    7   (-)   18-Valve. (pithy)   869
    8   (-3)   ChrisDK   852
    9   (+24)   sodak_za   849
    10   (-9)   Object   842


    Well given that Hakkie2 scored 817 on the week and and 842 total will get you in the top 10, it's no wonder that their team scores a 55 spot leap into the top overall position. Now that we've seen some points get the season underway, there shouldn't be quite as dramatic leaps in the future, but we still do have a brand new top 3 and mostly new top 10, with last week's leader Object the only team that was on the podium last week still in the top 10. western grebe and zaka fan round out the podium.



    I should mention that the Collective Wisdom team, composed of the most popular riders in the game, would be in 35th place at 645 points.



    This week only sees the action pack up with stage races in multiple countries, including Spain, France, Malaysia, Australia and Saudi Arabia.



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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #48 on: February 11, 2020, 18:09 »
    Update #5: Amis Velo tops a busy week



    There were stage races this week in the Middle East, Australia, two in continental Europe, and one ongoing in Southeast Asia. Although it's likely that more teams had a wider variety of riders scoring than last week, the weekly top scorers weren't anywhere near last week's 800+ highs. A lot of decent performances from less popular riders and big points from very rare riders this week, but a very exciting week with alot going on.



    This Week's Top Scorers




    Rank   Team   Points this week
    1   Amis_Velo   444
    2   Londonpat   438
    3   EvansIsTheBest   391
    4   Jakob747   384
    5   skidmark   358


    Amis Velo tops the week with two riders scoring more than 100 points - Nacer Bouhanni nabbed 126 from Saudi Arabia (and is on 52 teams), while unique pick Tao Geoghegan Hart picked up 102 in Europe, which must be an encouraging start for someone having him as a unique pick.  Beyond that, the team had a slew of riders such as Chernetski, Daniese, Cort etc scoring between 30-40, coming together for a solid week. Londonpat finishes only 6 points behind, having the top two in the Saudi Tour (Phil Bauhaus is only on 4 teams and scored 166 on the week, and is now only 30 points behind last year's score). EvansIsTheBest nabs a mention in third as one of the only two teams to pick Alexys Brunel, as well as the Bouhanni points.



    This Week's High Movers



    Rank   Team   Up/down
    1   Jon_Ezeitza   (+34)
    2   Londonpat   (+32)
    2   Eric10   (+32)
    4   Amis_Velo   (+26)
    4   postmanhat   (+26)


    Things have settled a bit in week 5 after some huge jumps in the early going, but Jon Ezeitza still manages to top the week by moving up almost a third of the table, 34 spots.  Their team has only 4 scoring riders this week, and the vast majority come from Tadej Pogacar (216 points, 3 teams) and the aforementioned Brunel. Londonpat is a bridesmaid again, sharing second place with Eric10.



    Green Jersey Competition



    Rank   Team   Total
    1   Jakob747   87
    2   will10   69
    3   EvansIsTheBest   56
    4   Fivezzz   55
    5   Hakkie2   51


    Jakob747 moves into the lead of this competition after their team's third week in the top 4 out of the 5 weeks this game has been going on. will10 and Fivezzz stand pat while EITB has a second good week in a row, and Hakkie2 scores 6 points to separate them from the pack of weekly winners at 45 points, now out of the top 5.



    Top 10 Overall



    Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
    1   (-)   
    Hakkie2
    1338
    2   (+2)   EvansIsTheBest   1317
    3   (+3)   Jakob747   1272
    4   (-1)   zaka_fan   1237
    5   (-3)   western_grebe   1205
    6   (+1)   18-Valve. (pithy)   1160
    7   (-2)   Marek   1135
    8   (+2)   Object   1121
    9   (-)   sodak_za   1110
    10   (+6)   Squire   1091


    Hakkie2 stays on top, while EITB and Jakob storm the podium. The top 10 overall has settled down a bit as well after a volatile first few weeks, with the only new entry being Squire, coming at the expense of ChrisDK, who tumbles out of the top 10.



    The early season hits keep coming this week, with Langkawi continuing, Colombia and Provence hosting their stage races, Murcia later in the week, and then Laigueglia kicking off the Italian calendar and Almeria too.





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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #49 on: February 14, 2020, 08:02 »
    Banaszek into profit after one day's racing. :lol

    He'll be up against some bigger names at Antalya, so that will give a better indication of his level these days.
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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #50 on: February 17, 2020, 19:58 »
    Update #6: HelgeBlendet Puts it all Together



    February continues apace with the appetizer races leading up to Opening Weekend, Paris-Nice and everything after, and we are starting to see some riders really come into their own, taking a good chunk out of or even surpassing totals from last year. One team this week stood above the rest, however.



    This Week's Top Scorers




    Rank   Team   Points this week
    1   HelgeBlendet   600
    2   Hakkie2   464
    3   Mayomaniac   457
    4   Northerner   447
    5   DJ Sprtsch   432


    HelgeBlendet scores an even 600 points in a week where no one else even topped 500, the effects of which (spoiler alert) you will see further down the table. This wasn't due to a solitary pick hitting it big, either - this was accomplished by committee, with 9 riders scoring between 40 and 89 points for their team. These are (deep breath): Jonathan Caciedo (89 points, 3 teams), Hugh Carthy (88, 5), Wilco Kelderman (85, 26), Diego Rosa (66, 5), Lennard Kamna (66, 46), George Bennett (54, 9), Esteban Chaves (40, 14) and Louis Meintjes (40, 21). Very impressive! Meanwhile, Hakkie2 wasn't content with the overall lead and wanted another notch in the belt, so their team gets second with 464 points. Danilo Celano (197 points, 3 teams) leads the way there, with unique pick Pierpaolo Ficara (83 points) also contributing a significant amount.  Mayomaniac nabs the final podium spot thanks as well to Celano and a fantastic showing from young Biniam Hailu (78 points, 7 teams).



    This Week's High Movers



    Rank   Team   Up/down
    1   DJ Sprtsch   (+30)
    2   Sneekes   (+28)
    3   bminchow   (+27)
    4   BlueRoads   (+25)
    5   CQPlayer7373   (+24)


    Quite a different top 5 here, as lots of the top scorers were already quite high on the standings. DJ Sprtsch takes the honors here, moving up thirty places thanks to Dani Martinez's 108 points leading the way. Sneekes is close behind (shoutout to the 139 points provided by an opportunistic Xandro Meurisse), while bminchow lands in third (as mentioned in the CN thread, unique pick Ciccone got 130 for winning Laigueglia).



    Green Jersey Competition




    Rank   Team   Total
    1   Jakob747   87
    2   Hakkie2   86
    3   will10   69
    4   EvansIsTheBest   56
    5   Fivezzz   55


    Hakkie2 isn't crushing absolutely everything in the early season, but is coming close, scoring 35 points in this competition to lesson Jakob747's lead to 1 point. No one else in the top 5 overall scores this week; 69 teams have scored at least a point in this competition so far.



    Top 10 Overall



    Rank   Up/down   Team   Points
    1   (-)   
    Hakkie2
    1802
    2   (+17)   HelgeBlendet   1594
    3   (-)   Jakob747   1550
    4   (-2)   EvansIsTheBest   1521
    5   (+5)   Squire   1502
    6   (+2)   Object   1493
    7   (+2)   sodak_za   1476
    8   (-4)   zaka_fan   1441
    9   (+6)   skidmark   1424
    10   (-4)   18-Valve. (pithy)   1401


    No surprise here, as Hakkie2's lead gets extended to over 200 points overall. HelgeBlendet rockets up the standings after a dominant week, but was starting about 350 points behind, and so must settle for a still quite impressive second. HelgeBlendet and good ol' team skidmark slip into the top 10, while western grebe and Marek tumble out.



    The traditional European early season is in full swing this week, with Algarve, Andalucia and Haut Var punctuating a stage-race heavy week, with the newly 2.1 Tour of Antalya offering some good CQ points as well. No Oman, but it's still a pretty big week.



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    Re: 2020 CQ Game Thread
    « Reply #51 on: February 20, 2020, 17:48 »
    That's more like it. A 1-2-3 at Algarve today. :cool
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