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Who knows what else may spring from the imagination of cycling fans in order to make up for a lost season, but this seems like an encouraging start. It's hard not to appreciate the spirit of this.
:cool

Maybe we could even synch a live-chat here for the occasion?

https://twitter.com/JasenThorpe/status/1239204612051099649

https://twitter.com/JasenThorpe/status/1239389679884980225

https://twitter.com/JasenThorpe/status/1240384657251684353

https://twitter.com/JasenThorpe/status/1240385876317724672

https://twitter.com/JasenThorpe/status/1240388026678812678

Could someone maybe provide a Velorooms Twitter approval/ support of their idea?
Maybe a retweet?

It seems like something we should've come up with first!   :angry :P
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    Upon further consideration, is this even feasible for the Veloroomie regulars, based on the allotted time slot?

    If I've got this right...

    Saturday, March 21

    8:00 am PST (Los Angeles)

    11:00 am EST (New York)

    3:00 pm GMT (London, England)

    4:00 pm GMT+1 (Berlin, Germany)

    11:00 pm GMT+11 (Canberra, Australia)


    If not, it could just inspire us to do something similar that better fits out collective schedules (or at least the schedules we've become accustomed to).

    And maybe something without Liggett?  :D

    Curious to get reactions. I'm just very much encouraged that someone out there thought to put this in motion.  :cool

    (The truth is, though: this is probably the worst time of day for me. It would pretty much eat up my entire afternoon, and the best daylight hours. So unless it's raining, I doubt I'll be around for this one. We'll see. A classic viewing of Paris-Roubaix in a few weeks could prove to be quite fun, though.)
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    It seems like something we should've come up with first!   :angry :P

    Some of us already did.

     I have already watched the full available coverage of Het Volk '97, '98, '99 '02 and '05, with '10 (today) '14, The Stannard show and '16 to follow.
     Most are on that cycling classics list, but here's what I have found so far:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnc6t2N9R_6eu5tieEe0-lw/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvdk8NYS7ItskDJhoTzG0Iw/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4VuEss6r29YWdXa1Y4A83g/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/user/SuccessCycling/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/user/worldcyclingarchives/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxgCKNwn_53aCuKP2ENoQ5w/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/user/Pixuns1/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/user/imtheocean2007/videos


    I am not a huge fan of M-SR so am sticking to the cobbled races. Next up for me will be E3.

    Anyhow, I am in if the idea has legs.
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    I’m in too.
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    Some of us already did.

    Was synchronized viewing suggested?

    The more I think about this, it could really gain some traction. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot Twitter buzz around this. If done right, you could even have various pros chiming in...and Liggett, too.
     :P

    It sure would be interesting, on some of these classic editions, if some of the participants from that time weighed in. There's actually a lot potential here for fun, and a bit of relief from a failed season.

    Another big plus for some of us: No failing live-feeds or unexpected drops in coverage.  :cool
     
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    I can’t even remember who won most races last year so it’ll all be new to me.

    I was going to suggest we did a CQ game on it. Then it dawned on me that I’d be at a disadvantage. “The clueless oafs are picking Sean Kelly, the sprinter, to win Paris-Nice. Ha ha, fools!”
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    I can’t even remember who won most races last year so it’ll all be new to me.

    I was going to suggest we did a CQ game on it. Then it dawned on me that I’d be at a disadvantage. “The clueless oafs are picking Sean Kelly, the sprinter, to win Paris-Nice. Ha ha, fools!”

     I was shocked that Sky's Juan Antonio Flecha just won the 2010 Het Volk on my tv, just now. :D
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     Cyclingtips have sort of joined in with their virtual Milan-San Remo offering.

    https://cyclingtips.com/2020/03/choose-your-own-adventure-milan-san-remo/
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    https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1241016929927733248

    This really begs the question:

    With so many cycling fans, eager to satisfy their cravings, looking to the vast library of past races, will it occur to pros that what they do is somewhat replaceble in terms of entertainment? I mean, we could easily subsist on a diet of vintage races from the past for more than just a few seasons.

    Seriously. It's not all that difficult for me to imagine a radical paradigm shift where cycling fans around the world coalesce around the very idea that sparked this thread. For many, it would be a great history lesson while providing some important context to the races, and racers, of today. For most, it would provide plenty of excitement and entertainment, even with a foregone conclusion, as it's easy to forget  just what transpired, and how.

    I suppose it could be even better without spoilers—for those who don't know the outcome, or have simply forgotten—but that might be harder to pull off. I had a bit of that experience the last time I watched The Hell of the North a few month ago. I had completely forgotten who the winner was going to be.
     :P

    Pro athletes are often plagued with an infuriating sense of inflated self-worth, so I wonder if this current pandemic might remind everyone of the relative insignificance of what they offer the world—especially in relation to the vast sums of money that many of them are paid. If they're not careful, they might find sports becoming the equivalent of classical music. People will still go the symphony, year after year, to listen famous compositions that they've already listened to countless times. Or maybe a more accurate analogy would be that of listen to your favorite albums, or watching your favorite movies. Hollywood could cease to create content tomorrow, and generations of viewers could still be entertained by the already-existing catalogue.

    Of course there's something unique and special about watching events live, with all the unknowns and excitement associated with that, but it could also be argued that watching only games, races, matches, etc, that have already been deemed "classics" might be preferable to sitting through countless versions of live events that often turn out to be a complete waste of time.

    Food for thought.
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    I suppose it could be even better without spoilers—for those who don't know the outcome, or have simply forgotten—but that might be harder to pull off. I had a bit of that experience the last time I watched The Hell of the North a few month ago. I had completely forgotten who the winner was going to be.
    Hey, the other day I wasn't even certain who won the Omloop.
    And that was less than three weeks ago! :lol
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    Gent-Wevelgem redux this Sunday (tomorrow!).  :cool

    https://twitter.com/iamjensee/status/1242587224111108096

    https://twitter.com/iamjensee/status/1242587228649320448


    So, again, if I've got this right:

    Sunday, March 29.

    8:00 am PST (Los Angeles)

    11:00 am EST (New York)

    3:00 pm GMT (London, England)

    4:00 pm GMT+1 (Berlin, Germany)

    11:00 pm GMT+11 (Canberra, Australia)
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     A pity they have gone for 1988.

    I have picked this, which I am about to start, saving the last two hours for the actual 5th anniversary.




    135kms of epic wet windy weathered echelon riding, with riders being blown into ditches, canals etc.
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    I know... I know...I know...

    But if you haven't listened to Johan reflecting on his past experiences in cycling, then you're missing out on one of the most compelling perspectives you are likely to ever come across. Remove Lance's goofiness from the equation, and Hincapie almost always has some very unique first-hand insights to offer as well. He tends to share things that only those on the inside are ever privy to, which makes his contributions all the more rare and valuable.

    I'm not exactly clear on the "whens" and "hows" of all this yet, but I suspect that will all get sorted in the next few days.
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    It appears that the Aussies have their own version of Lock-down fun scheduled.


    Lock-in these times in lockdown and watch the Spring Classics with us

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    Saturday April 4 – 2013 Tour of Flanders
    Streaming at 8pm AEDT via SBS On Demand / Cycling Central (6.30pm ACST 5pm AWST)

    Sunday April 5 – 2016 Paris-Roubaix
    On SBS VICELAND - 9.30pm local time
    Streaming via SBS On Demand / Cycling Central - 9.30pm AEST (9pm ACST 5pm AWST)

    Saturday April 11 – Hell of the North documentary
    Streaming at 8.30pm AEST via SBS On Demand / Cycling Central (8pm ACST 6.30pm AWST)

    Saturday April 18 – 2012 Paris-Roubaix
    Streaming at 8pm AEST via SBS On Demand / Cycling Central - (7.30pm ACST 6pm AWST)

    Saturday April 25– 2014 Liege-Bastogne-Liege 
    Streaming at 8pm AEST via SBS On Demand / Cycling Central (7.30pm ACST 6pm AWST)


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    https://twitter.com/wedusport/status/1245494352346001408

    Each to their own, but I would highly recommend watching this.

    They shared extended highlights of the three races, while offering commentary over the otherwise-silent footage. If you want some insight that you simply won't find anywhere else, then do yourself the favor. If you've ever wondered what it might be like to view these races in the company of those who have actually participated, then this is likely as close as you'll ever come, unless you're well connected. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I find no problem in simply putting the past aside, and taking in the knowledge. I hope you can, too. It was fun.
     :cool


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    THEMOVE 2020 Best of Paris-Roubaix




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    Our look back at some memorable editions of Paris-Roubaix. The guys review the 1994 and 2005 editions and bring in a special guest to discuss his day. George breaks down a rather unfortunate crash and equipment fail.

    I just finished watching this. I didn't enjoy it as much as the previous episode that covered Flanders, but it was still interesting. What made the recap of The Ronde so cool was the direct comparison of the same sections of road, but between the three featured years of 1985, 1995 and 2005—which are really different eras, given the evolution of equipment alone.

    For Paris-Roubaix they only compared two versions, 1994 and 2005, but I had to remind myself of what I was doing in 1994, as it doesn't seem all that long ago to me. But watching the footage...Damn. I felt like I was watching '84 or '74. You don't realize just how much things change over the decades until you look back.
    '94 was Hincapie's first attempt at Roubaix, which was won that year by Andrei Tchmil.

    The surprise guest in the middle of this episode is an interview with the '94 winner himself. Some of you may enjoy that. It's done in French, between Johan and Andrei, but with good subtitles. It's quite nice, actually.

    The other featured edition, 2005, was the year that Hincapie placed 2nd to Tom Boonen, with none other than Juan Antonio Flecha rounding out the podium in third.

    As I said, I found the historical look at The Ronde to be a bit more compelling than this episode, and I probably would've liked to hear a bit more from Johan, as he usually has the most insightful commentary. But Hincapie obviously has plenty to offer on the subject as well.

    Next week they'll be doing a similar format to look back at some classic editions of the Amstel Gold race. I'm guessing they'll include 2001 when Lance came in second to Erik Dekker in a two-man sprint to the finish? But we'll see. 
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    I haven't watched this one yet, so no comment to offer. It just popped up, so I thought I'd share.

    https://twitter.com/wedusport/status/1251927065181466625

    THEMOVE 2020 Best of Amstel Gold


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    Time to look back at the Best of Amstel Gold. The guys start with the 1999 edition, a race that saw Lance and Michael Boogerd take it right to the finish. Boogerd joins the crew to talk about his victory and how the sprint unfolded.

    We then beak down both the mens and women's exciting finishes from 2019. The crew closes the show with their thoughts on a revised cycling calendar due to COVID-19.
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    I haven't watched this one yet, so no comment to offer. It just popped up, so I thought I'd share.

    https://twitter.com/wedusport/status/1251927065181466625

    I just finished viewing this, and I would highly recommend it. The audio quality isn't very good, and Hincapie's contributions are only very minimal, but the highlight is the feature with Michael Boogerd. He beat Lance in a two-man sprint to the line in 1999, and it's really interesting, as well as entertaining, to listen to the two of them reflect upon that.

    Then, of course, they cover the now-legendary performance of the Mighty, Mighty van der Poel from the 2019 edition. There's mostly shared amazement among the panel, and Bruyneel (as usual) has some interesting points to offer. All-in-all, I found it well worth my time.

    The 1999 race coverage begins @7:10
    The Boogered interview is from 20:25 to 33:40
    The 2019 edition is from 34:20 to 55:00.
    The final 15 minutes is an interesting discussion about the immediate future of pro cycling, with some interesting suggestions as to what should unfold for the rest of this year.
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    I finally got through the latest installment from Lance & Co.
    Very poor audio quality, but some interesting moments.

    THEMOVE 2020 Best ofLiège-Bastogne-Liège


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    THEMOVE rounds out the Spring Classics with a recap of Liege. We tackle the 1987 and 2009 battles and bring in two special guests, Stephen Roche and Andy Schleck.

    Stephen talks about how a second place finish catapulted him to his best season of his career. Schleck joins the group to talk about his solo breakaway and Monument victory.

    I was mostly unmoved by the second part of this with Andy, although some may find the insight interesting. The most entertaining part, IMO, was the interview with Stephen Roche from 18:21 to 31:10. That link starts with Roche's post-race interview from 1987 before he joins Lance, Johan and George for a very charming exchange. It was quite nice.
     :)
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    In the absence of Le Tour (at least in July), the party continues...

    Seven shows covering seven years.

    Agree or disagree, condone or demonize, whatever your flavor, I always find it interesting to hear from those who were in the middle of it all.

    The Best of The Blue Train-1999 Passage du Gois

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    The self described Bad News Bears take on the biggest bike race in the world. Hear Lance, George, Johan and JB discuss their approach to the 1999 Tour. The guys talk taking the yellow jersey early, being in the right place during an epic crash and the "Yeah, but" days of the first of 7 victories.


    The Best of The Blue Train-2000 Hautacam

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    The Blue Train crew break down the Hautacam stage in the Pyrenees. With some major names coming back to race the 2000 Tour all eyes were on the boys from Postal. The guys discuss taking time from Jan Ullrich, going toe to toe with Marco Pantani and the weather on this epic day.
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