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2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
« on: July 23, 2020, 01:28 »
Back when this year appeared to be like any other, 33 of us entered the Spring Classics CQ Game.


We chose teams of 12 riders, (maximum total 2019 CQ score of 3000) to score points in 24 European 1.Pro and 1.WT races in the Spring.


But after 4 races, the world went mad, and there were no more races.  I declared Vladimir the winner, and have no intention of depriving him of that title.  But all the effort that we put into picking our teams yielded precious little sport, so let's have another go.


The goals of some riders, and the balance of skills that will garner points, have changed, so I will allow you to change up to 6 of your team, but the total budget (still based on year to 31/12/19 CQ scores) remains the same.  We will all have had the benefit (if it is a benefit) of seeing other people's selections, but deciding whether it is good to be guided by that remains your judgement.


Scores already gained (from Omloop, Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne, Faun-Ardeche and Drome) are retained: ditching, or taking on, riders who scored in those races will not affect your score.  But of the remaining 17 races listed for that game, several have abandoned any thought of re-scheduling for this year (GP Industria & Artigianato, Nokere Koerse, GP Denain, Koksijde Classic, GP Indurain, Tro-Bro Léon, Eschborn Frankfurt and Dwars door Vlaanderen), and that leaves us with gaps in the spreadsheet, and the freedom to choose outside the Spring period.


So I will be replacing those 8 races with Il Lombardia, Bretagne- Ouest France, GP Quebec, GP Montreal, World Championships Road Race,   Milan-Torino, Paris-Tours and Dwars door het Hageland (ie, the WT one day races that were not at the right time of year, the WCRR, two of my favourite 1.Pro races and the one that seems to be the most spring classic-like).


If you don't submit any changes, I'll enter your team as it is anyway, so if you entered in February, you can't escape.  And if you didn't enter in February, I will allow a new entry, but you obviously don't get the points some people have already banked from early in the season, and also have a reduced budget (10% lower, 2700 2019 points) to make up for your selection not being at least half those you fancied the chances of 5 months ago (and as a punishment for your disloyalty to the game back then).


Teams to me by the start of Strade Bianche on 1 August by PM please,  either here or at Velorooms: as ever, just the name (no prices, no team names) and in CQ format (Surname Forename and watch out for how CQ treats Spanish Portuguese and Danish names, among others) if at all possible.


I'll need to do a bit of alteration to the spreadsheet, so I'll do that tomorrow and then get back here with a clearer formatted list of the races and anything else that I may have missed.  Until then, have a think about how that changed list of races, and objectives of the riders, might make you want to alter your team.  Here is the original spreadsheet: that will show you your original picks (and everyone else's) and gives (on the Price tab) a list of 2019 prices  and the CQ versions of names.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #1 on: July 23, 2020, 23:33 »
    So since I announced the redux game, two of the new list ( the Canadian races) have been cancelled.  So I will replace them with 2 more 1.Pro events (Eurometropole and Wallonie), but from here on, anything cancelled just means one event fewer here.


    So the races for the Redux Classics game are:

    Omloop

    Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne

    Faun-Ardeche

     Drome 

    Those  have already been run, and your team points for those are locked in, regardless of what team changes you might make.


    1 Aug  Strade Bianche  (180 pts for winner, 108 2nd, 92 3rd, 5 for finishing)

    5 Aug  Milan Torino  (130, 78, 66: top 30 score)

    8 Aug Milan San Remo (280, 170, 145, 5 to finish)

    15 Aug Dwars door het Hageland  (as Milan-Torino)

    15 Aug   Lombardia (as Milan- San Remo)

    25 Aug  Bretagne Ouest France  (220, 132, 112, 5 to finish)

    12 Sept Eurometropole  (as Milan Torino)

    16 Sept GP de Wallonie  (as Milan Torino)

    27 Sept  World Championship RR (400, 240, 210, 10 to finish)

    30 Sept  Fleche Wallonne (as Ouest France)

    4 Oct Liege-Bastogne-Liege (as Milan San Remo)

    7 Oct Brabantse Pijl (as Milan Torino)

    10 Oct Amstel Gold  (as Ouest France)

    11 Oct Gent- Wevelgem  (as Ouest France)

    11 Oct Paris Tours   (as Milan Torino)

    14 Oct  Scheldeprijs   (as Milan Torino)

    18 Oct  Ronde van Vlaanderen  (as Milan San Remo)

    21 Oct  Dreidaagse De Panne (as Strade Bianche)

    25 Oct Paris-Roubaix  (as Milan San Remo)


     The high points yield of the WCRR considering the different profile of riders who might shine there compared to most of the list might make for some interesting selection decisions.


    I guess I need to start reading some of these statements on who intends doing what races.  Let me know if there are any questions, otherwise I will simply sit back and await your transfers in and out (or indeed, new entries).
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 17:51 »
    Cool Team JSG classics rides again
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #3 on: July 26, 2020, 17:09 »

    I'll keep my starting squad
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #4 on: July 31, 2020, 18:13 »
    A few more hours this evening, and a few tomorrow morning, if you want to make any alterations to the team you sent in in February, or if you want to come in as a new entry.


    Only three managers have made any alterations so far, including me.  Time is running short for the rest of you.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #5 on: August 01, 2020, 17:17 »
    No-one came in as a new, penalised, entry, and only 4 teams made any changes:

    Amis Velo
    Out: SAGAN Peter
    VAN DER HOORN Taco


    In:VAN POPPEL Danny
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu

    Bminchow
    Out: ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
    JUNGELS Bob
    THEUNS Edward
    MCLAY Daniel
    EDMONDSON Alexander


    In:VAN DER POEL Mathieu
    DILLIER Silvan
    BATTAGLIN Enrico
    COVI Alessandro
    KANTER Max


    Search
    Out:DE BACKER Bert
    DEVENYNS Dries
    FELLINE Fabio
    MOSCON Gianni
    VAN AERT Wout

    In: DE BIE Sean
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal
    MODOLO Sacha
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian
    SIMMONS Quinn


    And my own switches
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    Out:DILLIER Silvan
    MOSCON Gianni
    KÄMNA Lennard


    In: KREUZIGER Roman
    KELDERMAN Wilco
    FROOME Chris



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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #6 on: August 01, 2020, 23:15 »
    Race 5  Strade Bianche

    A popular pick as a winner, and the game already has very nearly as many points earned in August as in the spring.
    VAN AERT Wout   1st, 180pts   14 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian   3rd, 92pts for Search
    BETTIOL Alberto   4th, 78   4 teams
    STYBAR Zdenek   6th, 62   8
    ROSA Diego   10th, 36   1
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal    12th, 27   6
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   15th,  20   9
    and four more finishers for 5 points each.


    1=   Comodoro, Josedin   258 (Van Aert and Bettiol) (65 Green points each)
    3=   Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne   247 (Van Aert, Stybar and a 5)  (30)
    5   Zaka_Fan   242  (Van Aert, Stybar)  (15)
    6   Armchair   207 (Van Aert, Kwiatkowski)  (10)
    7   SemirS   205 (Van Aert, Van der Poel and a 5)  (5)
    8   Bminchow   200 (Van Aert, Van der Poel) (3)
    9   Tobydawq   185 (Van Aert and a 5) (2)
    10=   DJSprtsch, Madrazo, Salvarani, Scrool07, Shalgo   180 (0.2)
    15   BlackBandit222   140
    16   Search   119
    17   Leadbelly   87
    18   Northerner   78
    19=   Googolplex, Laarsland, LosBrolin   62
    22   Joelsim   56
    23=   Del1962, Hakkie2   32
    25=   Glomser, NorthAmericanScum   27
    27=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, JustSomeGuy, MellowVelo, Triley36   20
    32   Vladimir   5
    33   Kazistuta   0
       CollectiveWisdom   242

    Green Point standings
    Joint 3rd today lifts Otoxiep from 4th to top of this ranking
    1   Otoxiep87   110
    2   Googolplex   97.97
    3   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    4   Vladimir   85
    5   Josedin   80
    6   Comodoro   65
    7   Hakkie2   62.56
    8   Salvarani   54.79
    8   Shalgo   54.79
    10   Laarsland   54.59

    Standings

    Today's race scored almost as many as the 4 earlier ones, therefore there is only a passing similarity between this and the pre-lockdown standings.  The only real consistency (apart from BitB in last) is the virtual lead of the Collective Wisdom team.  The top three were 8th, 9th and 17th before this race, but Otoxiep's jump is beaten by Rote Laterne and Comodoro, each moving up 18 spots.

    1   Josedin   415 
    2   Zaka_Fan   395
    3   Otoxiep87   388
    4   Bminchow   374
    5=   Madrazo   359
    5=   RoteLaterne   359
    7   Armchair   355
    8   Salvarani   327
    9   Tobydawq   325
    10   DJSprtsch   310
    11   Shalgo   305
    12   Search   304
    13   Comodoro   288
    14   SemirS   243
    15   Googolplex   240
    16   Leadbelly   235
    17   Northerner   224
    18   Vladimir   221
    19   Scrool07   218
    20   LosBrolin   215
    21   Glomser   198
    22   AmisVelo   185
    23   BlackBandit222   176
    24   Del1962   174
    25   Laarsland   162
    26   MellowVelo   161
    27   Kazistuta   147
    28   JustSomeGuy   141
    29   Hakkie2   129
    30   Joelsim   103
    31   Triley36   65
    32   NorthAmericanScum   53
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   35
       CollectiveWisdom   469


    1   Josedin   415
    2   Zaka_Fan   395
    3   Otoxiep87   388
    4   Bminchow   374
    5   Madrazo   359
    5   RoteLaterne   359
    7   Armchair   355
    8   Salvarani   327
    9   Tobydawq   325
    10   DJSprtsch   310
    11   Shalgo   305
    12   Search   304
    13   Comodoro   288
    14   SemirS   243
    15   Googolplex   240
    16   Leadbelly   235
    17   Northerner   224
    18   Vladimir   221
    19   Scrool07   218
    20   LosBrolin   215
    21   Glomser   198
    22   AmisVelo   185
    23   BlackBandit222   176
    24   Del1962   174
    25   Laarsland   162
    26   MellowVelo   161
    27   Kazistuta   147
    28   JustSomeGuy   141
    29   Hakkie2   129
    30   Joelsim   103
    31   Triley36   65
    32   NorthAmericanScum   53
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   35
       CollectiveWisdom   469

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2020, 19:26 »
    Maybe there is something calming in doing this, takes my mind of what we all just saw in Poland.  Hope it doesn't feel disrespectful or trite.

    Race 6  Milan-Torino but not the Milano-Torino we normally see.

    VAN AERT Wout   3rd, 66pts   14 teams
    Van Poppel Danny   5th, 52pts   5 teams
    BOUHANNI Nacer   6th, 46pts    8 teams
    plus 3 others in the top 15, scoring in the teens, and 2 five point, top 30, finishers.

    1   DJSprtsch   141 (Van Aert, Van Poppel, Naesen (18) Zabel (5))  (80 green points)
    2   AmisVelo   114 (Van Poppel, Bouhanni, Van der Poel (16))  (50)
    3=   Armchair, Comodoro   112 (Van Aert, Bouhanni) (30 each)
    5   Northerner   98 (Van Poppel, Bouhanni) (15)
    6   SemirS   87 (10)
    7   Bminchow   82 (5)
    8   Salvarani   78 (3)
    9=   Josedin, Madrazo, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne, Scrool07, Shalgo, Tobydawq, Zaka_Fan   66  (0.38 each)
    17   Triley36   62
    18=   Glomser, NorthAmericanScum   52
    20   Laarsland   51
    21=   Del1962, LosBrolin   46
    23=   Blues_in_the_Bottle,    Joelsim, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, MellowVelo   16
    28=   BlackBandit222, Googolplex, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, Search, Vladimir   0
       CollectiveWisdom   112

    Green points
    Comodoro up from 6th to 3rd, DJS into the top ten.

    1   Otoxiep87   110.38
    2   Googolplex   97.97
    3   Comodoro   95
    4   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    5   Vladimir   85
    6   Josedin   80.38
    7   DJSprtsch   80.2
    8   Hakkie2   62.56
    9   Salvarani   57.79
    10   Shalgo   55.17


    Standings

    Josedin holds onto the lead, while Armchair jumps 5 places to 2nd.  DJSprtsch moves up from 10th to 6th as the top scorer today, and Comodoro just nudges into the top ten, while Amis Velo has a 6 place move to be jumper of the day.

    1   Josedin   481
    2   Armchair   467
    3   Zaka_Fan   461
    4   Bminchow   456
    5   Otoxiep87   454
    6   DJSprtsch   451
    7   Madrazo   425
    7   RoteLaterne   425
    9   Salvarani   405
    10   Comodoro   400
    11   Tobydawq   391
    12   Shalgo   371
    13   SemirS   330
    14   Northerner   322
    15   Search   304
    16   AmisVelo   299
    17   Scrool07   284
    18   LosBrolin   261
    19   Leadbelly   251
    20   Glomser   250
    21   Googolplex   240
    22   Vladimir   221
    23   Del1962   220
    24   Laarsland   213
    25   MellowVelo   177
    26   BlackBandit222   176
    27   JustSomeGuy   157
    28   Kazistuta   147
    29   Hakkie2   129
    30   Triley36   127
    31   Joelsim   119
    32   NorthAmericanScum   105
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   51
       CollectiveWisdom   581


    Spreadsheet at Google Drive 

    Reconvene here after Milan-San Remo
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #8 on: August 08, 2020, 23:12 »
    Race 7: Milan-San Remo

    Sometimes the biggest races score low in this game, because the main protagonists prove too expensive to fit into a team.  Not this time, for the winner if no-one else in the top 12, and WvA looks like he might be an essential for any team to get anywhere in the game.

    VAN AERT Wout   1st, 280pts for 14 teams
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   13th, 42 pts   9 teams
    NAESEN Oliver   14th, 38 for Salvarani
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   15th, 34   6
    JORGENSON Matteo   17th, 30 for Black Bandit
    BETTIOL Alberto   18th, 28   4
    STYBAR Zdenek   19th, 26   8
    STANNARD Robert   26th, 12   1
    and 20 other finishers, getting 5 points each


    1   Armchair   329 (Van Aert, Kwiatkowski and 3 fives) (80 green points)
    2   SemirS   327 (Van Aert, Van der Poel and one fiver) (50)
    3   Comodoro   323 (Van Aert, Bettiol and 3 fives) (35)
    4   Bminchow   322 (Van Aert and Van der Poel) (25)
    5   Salvarani   318 (15)
    6   Otoxiep87   316 (10)
    7   Josedin   313 (5)
    8=   RoteLaterne, Zaka_Fan   311 (2.5 each)
    10   DJSprtsch   305 (1)
    11=   Shalgo, Tobydawq   295
    13   Madrazo, Scrool07   290
    15   BlackBandit222   84
    16   Leadbelly   73
    17   Del1962   71
    18   AmisVelo   62
    19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   52
    19   Triley36   52
    21=   Glomser, Search   49
    23=   Joelsim, JustSomeGuy   47
    25   LosBrolin   46
    26   Hakkie2   44
    27   Northerner   43
    28   MellowVelo   42
    29   Laarsland   41
    30   NorthAmericanScum   39
    31   Googolplex   31
    32   Kazistuta   20
    33   Vladimir   15
       CollectiveWisdom   316

    Green Jersey
    1   Comodoro   130
    2   Armchair   126
    3   Otoxiep87   120.38
    4   Googolplex   97.97
    5   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    6   Josedin   85.38
    7   Vladimir   85
    8   DJSprtsch   81.2
    9   Salvarani   72.79
    10   Bminchow   72.59


    Standings
    In an unlikely development, I seem to have both top scored today and moved up to the top of the tabel.  I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon.  Bminchow has also moved up onto the podium, and Comodoro and Salvarani move up within the top ten.  Scrool07 and Blackbandit222 share the honourable mention for having moved forward most (3 places).

    1   Armchair   796
    2   Josedin   794   
    3   Bminchow   778
    4   Zaka_Fan   772
    5   Otoxiep87   770
    6   DJSprtsch   756
    7   RoteLaterne   736
    8   Comodoro   723
    8   Salvarani   723
    10   Madrazo   715
    11   Tobydawq   686
    12   Shalgo   666
    13   SemirS   657
    14   Scrool07   574
    15   Northerner   365
    16   AmisVelo   361
    17   Search   353
    18   Leadbelly   324
    19   LosBrolin   307
    20   Glomser   299
    21   Del1962   291
    22   Googolplex   271
    23   BlackBandit222   260
    24   Laarsland   254
    25   Vladimir   236
    26   MellowVelo   219
    27   JustSomeGuy   204
    28   Triley36   179
    29   Hakkie2   173
    30   Kazistuta   167
    31   Joelsim   166
    32   NorthAmericanScum   144
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   103
       CollectiveWisdom   897


    And with WvA having taken 526 points since the three races since the relaunch and the opportunity to change your team (the lowest team that chose him is a head of the highest that did not), Search may be permitted to kick himself for having dropped him in favour of Schachmann.

    Two races next Saturday, Lombardia and Hageland: until then, numbers galore
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #9 on: August 15, 2020, 16:37 »
    Two races today, the minor one of which has finished forst:
    Race 8: Dwars door het Hageland

    Included to retain some of the minor cobbled category that some riders may have been selected for.

    Hakkie and Northerner both have the winner (130 points), Jonas Rickaert, and 2nd placed Eekhoff (78 pts) is on 7 teams (Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Del1962, Josedin, Laarsland, Leadbelly and Los Brolin)
    Also Senechal (4th, 58 for 4 teams) Merlier (5th, 52, 3), Van der Hoorn (11th, 20, 3) Van Gestel (12th, 18, 1) and 4 5 pointers (21st -30th), including popular bargain Sean de Bie.

    Northerner   188 (80 green points)
    Josedin   140 (50)
    Laarsland   136 (35)
    Hakkie2   130 (25)
    Blues_in_the_Bottle   103 (15)
    Del1962, Leadbelly   83 (7.5 each)
    Bminchow, LosBrolin   78 (2.5)
    MellowVelo, Vladimir   58 (0.5)
    NorthAmericanScum, Zaka_Fan   52
    Kazistuta   25
    Scrool07   20
    Otoxiep87   18
    AmisVelo, DJSprtsch, Joelsim   10
    Armchair, Comodoro, Googolplex, RoteLaterne, Salvarani, Search, Tobydawq   5
    BlackBandit222, Glomser, JustSomeGuy, Madrazo, SemirS, Shalgo, Triley36   0

    CollectiveWisdom   5

    Green points
    Josedin from 6th to top

    1   Josedin   135.38
    2   Comodoro   130
    3   Armchair   126
    4   Northerner   125
    5   Otoxiep87   120.38
    6   Googolplex   97.97
    7   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    8   Laarsland   89.59
    9   Hakkie2   87.56
    10   Vladimir   85.5

    Standings

    Those who were second, third and fourth before this race all overtake the erstwhile leader.  No other changes of position in the top 15.  Search and Leadbelly each move up 7 places.

    1   Josedin   934
    2   Bminchow   856
    3   Zaka_Fan   824
    4   Armchair   801
    5   Otoxiep87   788
    6   DJSprtsch   766
    7   RoteLaterne   741
    8   Comodoro   728
    8   Salvarani   728
    10   Madrazo   715
    11   Tobydawq   691
    12   Shalgo   666
    13   SemirS   657
    14   Scrool07   594
    15   Northerner   553
    16   Leadbelly   407
    17   Laarsland   390
    18   LosBrolin   385
    19   Del1962   374
    20   AmisVelo   371
    21   Search   358
    22   Hakkie2   303
    23   Glomser   299
    24   Vladimir   294
    25   MellowVelo   277
    26   Googolplex   276
    27   BlackBandit222   260
    28   Blues_in_the_Bottle   206
    29   JustSomeGuy   204
    30   NorthAmericanScum   196
    31   Kazistuta   192
    32   Triley36   179
    33   Joelsim   176
       CollectiveWisdom   902

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #10 on: August 15, 2020, 19:29 »
    Race 9: Il Lombardia

    The bigger of today's races, but a smaller contribution to the game's points total than Hageland.  In the same way, I suppose, as we choose riders such that the Ardennes races tend to yield fewer points than the cobbles.

    SCHACHMANN Maximilian   7th, 90 pts  for Search, who swapped him in in the break
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   10th, 62 points   9 teams
    DE MARCHI Alessandro   11th 54   for Otoxiep87
    KELDERMAN Wilco   19th, 26   1
    GESCHKE Simon   20th, 24   2
    and 5 five point finishers

    1   Search   114 (Schachmann and Geschke) (80 green points)
    2   MellowVelo   91 (Van der Poel, Geschke and a five) (50)
    3=   Bminchow, Joelsim   67 (30)
    5=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, SemirS, Triley36   62 (6)
    11   Otoxiep87   54
    12   Armchair   26
    13   Del1962   10
    14=   Comodoro, Kazistuta, LosBrolin, NorthAmericanScum, Vladimir   5
    19=   Everyone else, including CollectiveWisdom   0

    Green points

    1   Josedin   135.38
    2   Comodoro   130
    2   Search   130
    4   Armchair   126
    5   Northerner   125
    6   Otoxiep87   120.38
    7   Bminchow   105.09
    8   JustSomeGuy   98.56
    9   Googolplex   97.97
    10   Laarsland   89.59


    Standings

    Zaka Fan's place on the virtual podium lasted only a couple of hours, with Otoxiep passing both him and Armchair to third.  Semir's two-headed team makes the top ten, and Search adds to his 7 place jump earlier today with a 5 place move now.

    1   Josedin   934
    2   Bminchow   923
    3   Otoxiep87   842
    4   Armchair   827
    5   Zaka_Fan   824
    6   DJSprtsch   766
    7   RoteLaterne   741
    8   Comodoro   733
    9   Salvarani   728
    10   SemirS   719
    11   Madrazo   715
    12   Tobydawq   691
    13   Shalgo   666
    14   Scrool07   594
    15   Northerner   553
    16   Search   472
    17   Leadbelly   469
    18   AmisVelo   433
    19   Laarsland   390
    19   LosBrolin   390
    21   Del1962   384
    22   MellowVelo   368
    23   Hakkie2   303
    24   Glomser   299
    24   Vladimir   299
    26   Googolplex   276
    27   Blues_in_the_Bottle   268
    28   JustSomeGuy   266
    29   BlackBandit222   260
    30   Joelsim   243
    31   Triley36   241
    32   NorthAmericanScum   201
    33   Kazistuta   197
       CollectiveWisdom   902

    Bretagne Ouest (GP Plouay) next up, on Tuesday week, by which time I should be sorting the first entries for the Tour de France game.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #11 on: August 15, 2020, 22:56 »
    Rickaert only cost 23 points for those 130 that he earned today, and Eekhoff also turns a profit.  De Bie breaks even, but for a cost of 5 points, that is a minor achievement.

    And that should have been Laarsland and Hakkie that moved up 7 places in Hageland, not Search and Leadbelly.  I'll blame that on my mind being on Evenepoel's condition as I typed it.

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #12 on: August 25, 2020, 19:09 »
    Race 10  Bretagne Classic Ouest France

    Michael Matthews was probably a bit too expensive to pick, unless he gets a few other results, but Luka Mezgec in this race would have created a decent return had anyone gone for him.  Instead, the point scoring riders today that we did pick are:
    SENECHAL Florian   3rd, 112pts for 4 teams
    SIMMONS Quinn   6th, 76pts for 21
    EEKHOFF Nils   7th, 66, 7
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   10th, 46   for Comodoro and Kazistuta
    HAAS Nathan   19th, 17   1
    THWAITES Scott   23rd, 13   2
    VANMARCKE Sep   28th, 8   7
    and another 17 scoring 5 each for reaching the finish line.

    1=   Laarsland (Senechal, Eekhoff and 2 fives), Vladimir(Senechal and Simmons   188 (65 green points each)
    3   LosBrolin   147 (Simmons, Eekhoff and a fiver) (35)
    4=   Bminchow, Josedin   142 (Simmons and Eekhoff) (20)
    6   Kazistuta   130 (Simmons, Garcia, Vanmarcke) (10)
    7   MellowVelo   129 (Senechal and Haas) (5)
    8   Northerner   117 (3)
    9   Madrazo   102 (2)
    10   Tobydawq   94 (1)
    11=   Scrool07, Search   89
    13   Zaka_Fan   86
    14=   SemirS, Triley36   84
    16   Armchair, BlackBandit222, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, NorthAmericanScum, Otoxiep87   81
    22=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Joelsim, RoteLaterne, Shalgo   76
    27   Del1962   71
    28   Comodoro   46
    29   DJSprtsch   25
    30   Googolplex   8
    31=   Glomser, Hakkie, Salvarani   5
       CollectiveWisdom   76


    Green points
    The two teams who shared top scores today are modestly placed in the main competition, but both appear on the podium in the minor award.

    1   Josedin   155.38
    2   Laarsland   154.59
    3   Vladimir   150.5
    4   Comodoro   130
    4   Search   130
    6   Northerner   128
    7   Armchair   126
    8   Bminchow   125.09
    9   Otoxiep87   120.38
    10   JustSomeGuy   98.56


    Standings
    Of those who were in the top ten after the last race, only the top two got anything other than Simmons (the most popular pick in the game) and one or two fivers, and they matched each other exactly, so the gap between them is the same, and their margin over the rest of the field increases.  Tobydawq came 10th on the day and moves up to 10th overall, but Madrazo makes a more impressive burst into the ten, up 5 places to a share of 6th.  But not quite the jump of the day: Koronin moves up 6 (to  6th from bottom)

    1   Josedin   1076
    2   Bminchow   1065
    3   Otoxiep87   923
    4   Zaka_Fan   910
    5   Armchair   908
    6   Madrazo   817
    6   RoteLaterne   817
    8   SemirS   803
    9   DJSprtsch   791
    10   Tobydawq   785
    11   Comodoro   779
    12   Shalgo   742
    13   Salvarani   733
    14   Scrool07   683
    15   Northerner   670
    16   Laarsland   578
    17   Search   561
    18   Leadbelly   550
    19   LosBrolin   537
    20   AmisVelo   509
    21   MellowVelo   497
    22   Vladimir   487
    23   Del1962   455
    24   JustSomeGuy   347
    25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   344
    26   BlackBandit222   341
    27   Kazistuta   327
    28   Triley36   325
    29   Joelsim   319
    30   Hakkie2   308
    31   Glomser   304
    32   Googolplex   284
    33   NorthAmericanScum   282
       CollectiveWisdom   978


    The next two events (Eurometropole and GP de Wallonie) have been cancelled, and the one after that is uncertain at best (the World Championships).  So I'm not sure now long these numbers remain the status quo.  From my point of view, I guess it saves me trying to do updates on this during the Tour de France, because I'll be busy each evening during that with updates of that game, so don't forget to get your entry in on that one: the thread will be near this somewhere.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #13 on: September 27, 2020, 18:32 »
    Race 11  World Championship  (it would have been race 13, but we lost Eurometropole and GP Wallonie

    This is on a bigger scale of points than any of the other races.  But that is mitigated by no-one choosing the winner.  But here are those that we did pick:

    VAN AERT Wout   2nd 240 points for 14 teams
    HIRSCHI Marc   3rd 210pts for Joelsim
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   4th 180   6 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian   9th 96 for Search
    GESCHKE  Simon   17th  30   2
    BETTIOL Alberto   18th  27   4
    and only 4 of the 58 riders who finished outside the top 30, which is a shame as they are worth twice as many points here as in a WT race (10 points)


    1   Armchair   420 (Van Aert and Kwiatkowski) 80 green points
    2   Search   306 (Kwiatkowski, Schachmann, Geschke) 50
    3=   Comodoro, Josedin   267 (Van Aert and Bettiol) 30
    5   Otoxiep87   260(Van Aert and 2 tens) 15
    6=   Salvarani, Shalgo   250 (Van Aert and a ten) 7.5
    8=   Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Madrazo, RoteLaterne, Scrool07, SemirS, Tobydawq, Zaka_Fan   240 (Van Aert) 0.75
    16   Joelsim   210
    17   Hakkie2   190
    18=   Del1962, Glomser, NorthAmericanScum   180
    21   BlackBandit222   37
    22   MellowVelo   30
    23   Northerner   27
    24   Laarsland, Triley36   10
    26   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Googolplex, JustSomeGuy, Kazistuta, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Vladimir   0
       CollectiveWisdom   240

    Green points
    The same two riders that made Armchair today's top scorer did the same for him in Milan San Remo, and with two daily wins, he moves to the top of the minor classification.  The top 4 teams here were the top 4 today.

    1   Armchair   206
    2   Josedin   185.38
    3   Search   180
    4   Comodoro   160
    5   Laarsland   154.59
    6   Vladimir   150.5
    7   Otoxiep87   135.38
    8   Northerner   128
    9   Bminchow   125.84
    10   JustSomeGuy   98.56


    Standings

    Some closely clustered scores at the top: Josedin retains the lead, while Armchair rises from fifth to second.  Comodoro breaks into the top ten, and Joelsim makes an 8 place rise.

    1   Josedin   1343
    2   Armchair   1328
    3   Bminchow   1305
    4   Otoxiep87   1183
    5   Zaka_Fan   1150
    6   Madrazo   1057
    6   RoteLaterne   1057
    8   Comodoro   1046
    9   SemirS   1043
    10   DJSprtsch   1031
    11   Tobydawq   1025
    12   Shalgo   992
    13   Salvarani   983
    14   Scrool07   923
    15   Search   867
    16   Northerner   697
    17   Del1962   635
    18   Laarsland   588
    19   Leadbelly   550
    20   LosBrolin   537
    21   Joelsim   529
    22   MellowVelo   527
    23   AmisVelo   509
    24   Hakkie2   498
    25   Vladimir   487
    26   Glomser   484
    27   NorthAmericanScum   462
    28   BlackBandit222   378
    29   JustSomeGuy   347
    30   Blues_in_the_Bottle   344
    31   Triley36   335
    32   Kazistuta   327
    33   Googolplex   284
       CollectiveWisdom   1218


    After nearly 5 weeks with no race (well, not much by this year's standards), we are back again on Wednesday for Fleche Wallonne, and probably to again rue not selecting Alaphilippe.

    And by then, you might have looked into your Giro team.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #14 on: September 30, 2020, 18:05 »
    Race 12  Fleche Wallonne

    The balance of teams is usually heavily weighted towards the cobbles, and away from the hillier classics.  Usually, that means scoring tails off, but this year it may mean a late boost for some teams.

    But those who we did pick:

    HIRSCHI Marc   1st 220pts for Joelsim
    MARTIN Daniel   5th, 86 for Kazistuta
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   6th 76pts    6 teams
    GESCHKE Simon   10th 46   2 teams
    VANENDERT Jelle   12th 35   3
    BAGIOLI Andrea   19th 17   3
    GASPAROTTO Enrico   30th 6   3
    and another 19 riders (including Quinn Simmons, the most popular pick in the game) who were among the 143 finishers, each getting 5 points.

    1   Joelsim   230 (Hirschi and 2 fives)   80 green points
    2   Search   132 (Kwiatkowski, Geschke and 2 fives)   50
    3   Hakkie2   117 (Kwiatkowski, Vanendert, Gasparotto)   35
    4   Kazistuta   91 (Martin and one fiver)   25
    5   NorthAmericanScum   86 (Kwiatkowski and 2 5ers)  15
    6=   Armchair, Glomser   81(Kwiatkowski and 1 5er)   7.5 each
    8   Del1962   76(Kwiatkowski)   3
    9   MellowVelo   51    2
    10   Vladimir   50     1
    11   Madrazo   45
    12   Shalgo   27
    13=   Laarsland, Salvarani   22
    15   BlackBandit222   21
    16   JustSomeGuy   20
    17   Otoxiep87   16
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   15
    19=   LosBrolin, RoteLaterne, Scrool07   10
    22   AmisVelo, Bminchow, Comodoro, Googolplex, Josedin, Leadbelly, Northerner, SemirS, Tobydawq, Triley36, Zaka_Fan   5
    33   DJSprtsch   0
       CollectiveWisdom   5

    Green points
    Search seems to either do very well in a race (his has been the top team on one race and the second three times) or has a very mediocre showing (he has never been 3rd to 10th), but that is what the green jersey is meant to celebrate.  Hakkie peeps into the ten.
    1   Search   230
    2   Armchair   213.5
    3   Josedin   185.38
    4   Comodoro   160
    5   Laarsland   154.59
    6   Vladimir   151.5
    7   Otoxiep87   135.38
    8   Northerner   128
    9   Bminchow   125.84
    10   Hakkie2   122.56


    Standings

    Of the top ten scorers in this race, only one (Armchair) was higher than 15th overall.  I get to celebrate that with a step up from 2nd to the top.  No other positive changes in the top ten, and Joelsim and Hakkie each manage to rise 5 places.

    Armchair   1409   1
    Josedin   1348   -1
    Bminchow   1310   0
    Otoxiep87   1199   0
    Zaka_Fan   1155   0
    Madrazo   1102   0
    RoteLaterne   1067   -1
    Comodoro   1051   0
    SemirS   1048   0
    DJSprtsch   1031   0
    Tobydawq   1030   0
    Shalgo   1019   0
    Salvarani   1005   0
    Search   999   1
    Scrool07   933   -1
    Joelsim   759   5
    Del1962   711   0
    Northerner   702   -2
    Hakkie2   615   5
    Laarsland   610   -2
    MellowVelo   578   1
    Glomser   565   4
    Leadbelly   555   -4
    NorthAmericanScum   548   3
    LosBrolin   547   -5
    Vladimir   537   -1
    AmisVelo   514   -4
    Kazistuta   418   4
    BlackBandit222   399   -1
    JustSomeGuy   367   -1
    Blues_in_the_Bottle   359   -1
    Triley36   340   -1
    Googolplex   289   0
    CollectiveWisdom   1223   



    Liege-Bastogne-Liege (usually the last event in this game) is on Sunday, but don't forget to get your Giro game teams to me before that.

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #15 on: September 30, 2020, 21:41 »
    Blast.  I've just realised that due to CQ's odd way of dealing with Michael Valgren's change of surname. I did not give credit to Del1962, Hakkie, Rote Laterne, Tobydawq and Vladimir credit for his 11th place (64 points) in the World Championship.

    That makes the World Championship race the biggest contributor of points to the game.

    Corrected top ten scores for that race
    1 Armchair   420
    2 Search   306
    3 RoteLaterne   304
    3 Tobydawq   304
    5 Comodoro   267
    5 Josedin   267
    7 Otoxiep87   260
    8 Hakkie2   254
    9 Salvarani   250
    9 Shalgo   250




    Corrected total green points

    1   Search   230
    2   Armchair   213.5
    3   Josedin   167.88
    4   Laarsland   154.59
    5   Vladimir   151.5
    6   Comodoro   142.5
    7   Northerner   128
    8   Hakkie2   125.56
    9   Otoxiep87   125.38
    10   Bminchow   125.09


    Corrected Standings

    1   Armchair   1409
    2   Josedin   1348
    3   Bminchow   1310
    4   Otoxiep87   1199
    5   Zaka_Fan   1155
    6   RoteLaterne   1131
    7   Madrazo   1102
    8   Tobydawq   1094
    9   Comodoro   1051
    10   SemirS   1048
    11   DJSprtsch   1031
    12   Shalgo   1019
    13   Salvarani   1005
    14   Search   999
    15   Scrool07   933
    16   Del1962   775
    17   Joelsim   759
    18   Northerner   702
    19   Hakkie2   679
    20   Laarsland   610
    21   Vladimir   601
    22   MellowVelo   578
    23   Glomser   565
    24   Leadbelly   555
    25   NorthAmericanScum   548
    26   LosBrolin   547
    27   AmisVelo   514
    28   Kazistuta   418
    29   BlackBandit222   399
    30   JustSomeGuy   367
    31   Blues_in_the_Bottle   359
    32   Triley36   340
    33   Googolplex   289
       CollectiveWisdom   1223

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #16 on: October 05, 2020, 12:46 »
    Is everyone else getting "Database error" pages nearly every time they try to post, or is there a problem at my end?

    Liege-Bastogne-Liege update is at CN (here and following.

    In short, Joelsim got more than twice the points of anyone else, mainly because Hirschi is a unique pick; Search still leads the Green points table, and I am still in the lead overall, but have little confidence in my cobbles team.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #17 on: October 07, 2020, 22:55 »
    Stage 14 Brabantse Pijl

    Alaphilippe almost did it again, which would have been worth an extra 52 points to the Van Der Poel teams.

    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   2nd, 78 pts   9 teams
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   6th, 46   6
    BAGIOLI Andrea   7th, 40   3
    COVI Alessandro   9th, 28   1
    Devenyns Dries   10th, 24   1
    DEWULF Stan   11th, 20   1
    TEUNS Dylan   12th, 18   3
    DE MARCHI Alessandro   21st, 5   1
    VANENDERT Jelle   22nd, 5   3
    VALGREN HUNDAHL Michael    25th,   5   5

    Today's top scorer, Bminchow, was the one who took most advantage of the opportunity to change his team at the re-boot.  His unique pick, Covi, moves straight into a positive score, as has Bagioli with this result.


    1   Bminchow   106 (Van Der Poel and Covi)  80 Green points
    2   Blues_in_the_Bottle   98 (Van Der Poel and DeWulf)  50
    3   JustSomeGuy   96 (Van der Poel and Teuns)  35
    4=   AmisVelo, Joelsim, Leadbelly, MellowVelo, SemirS, Triley36   78   10gp each
    10   Glomser   70  (Kwiatkowski and Devenyns)  1
    11   Laarsland   58  (Bagioli, Teuns)
    12   Hakkie2   56
    13   Del1962   51
    14=   Armchair, NorthAmericanScum, Search   46
    17=   Salvarani, Shalgo   40
    19   LosBrolin   18
    20   Vladimir   10
    21   Madrazo, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne, Tobydawq   5
    25   The rest   0
       CollectiveWisdom   0


    Green points:

    Bminchow, Joelsim and JSG scored today, and moved up 6, down one, and up 3 respectively.

    1   Search   230
    2   Armchair   213.5
    3   Bminchow   208.42
    4   Joelsim   200.5
    5   JustSomeGuy   176.06
    6   Josedin   167.88
    7   Laarsland   154.59
    8   Vladimir   151.5
    9   Comodoro   142.5
    10   Northerner   128


    1   Armchair   1517   0
    2   Bminchow   1516   0
    3   Josedin   1348   0
    4   SemirS   1226   up 2 places
    5   Otoxiep87   1214   -1
    6   Zaka_Fan   1155   -1
    7   RoteLaterne   1141   0
    8   Madrazo   1130   0
    9   Search   1118   1
    10   Joelsim   1107   3
    11   Tobydawq   1099   -2
    12   Shalgo   1064   2
    13   Comodoro   1056   -2
    14   Salvarani   1050   1
    15   DJSprtsch   1031   -3
    16   Scrool07   938   0
    17   Del1962   888   0
    18   Hakkie2   820   0
    19   MellowVelo   767   1
    20   Leadbelly   738   1
    21   Northerner   707   -2
    22   Glomser   702   0
    23   AmisVelo   692   2
    24   Laarsland   678   0
    25   NorthAmericanScum   656   1
    26   Vladimir   639   -3
    27   JustSomeGuy   578   1
    28   LosBrolin   575   -1
    29   Blues_in_the_Bottle   572   0
    30   Triley36   523   1
    31   Kazistuta   472   -1
    32   BlackBandit222   409   0
    33   Googolplex   289   0
       CollectiveWisdom   1223   

    My lead has now been eroded to the smallest possible margin, and I have almost no confidence in my cobbles squad (WvA apart).

    Amstel Gold race was to have been on Saturday, but has been cancelled, but there are two races due on Sunday:  Gent-Wevelgem and Paris Tours.  It is more likely that the updates here will be on Monday.  Until then, you can analyse your future prospects here.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #18 on: October 12, 2020, 16:23 »
    Stage 15   Paris Tours

    Only three Selected riders in the top 30:

    MellowVelo and Vladimir each get 46 points (and 65 green points) for VAKOC Petr, 6th.
    AmisVelo, Armchair, Comodoro, Del1962, Laarsland, LosBrolin, Northerner, Triley36 all get 8 points (12 green) for BOUHANNI Nacer (18th)
    and DJSprtsch gets 6 for HAILU Biniam Girmay (20th)

    Green Points
    Vladimir moves from 8th to 3rd, Mellow Velo rises 8.

    1   Search   230
    2   Armchair   225.5
    3   Vladimir   216.5
    4   Bminchow   208.42
    5   Joelsim   200.5
    6   MellowVelo   187.5
    7   JustSomeGuy   176.06
    8   Josedin   167.88
    9   Laarsland   166.59
    10   Comodoro   154.5

    Standings

    Not enough riders and points for any significant changes.

    1   Armchair   1525   0
    2   Bminchow   1516   0
    3   Josedin   1348   0
    4   SemirS   1226   0
    5   Otoxiep87   1214   0
    6   Zaka_Fan   1155   0
    7   RoteLaterne   1141   0
    8   Madrazo   1130   0
    9   Search   1118   0
    10   Joelsim   1107   0
    11   Tobydawq   1099   0
    12   Comodoro   1064   1
    12   Shalgo   1064   0
    14   Salvarani   1050   0
    15   DJSprtsch   1037   0
    16   Scrool07   938   0
    17   Del1962   896   0
    18   Hakkie2   820   0
    19   MellowVelo   813   0
    20   Leadbelly   738   0
    21   Northerner   715   0
    22   Glomser   702   0
    23   AmisVelo   700   0
    24   Laarsland   686   0
    25   Vladimir   685   1
    26   NorthAmericanScum   656   -1
    27   LosBrolin   583   1
    28   JustSomeGuy   578   -1
    29   Blues_in_the_Bottle   572   0
    30   Triley36   531   0
    31   Kazistuta   472   0
    32   BlackBandit222   409   0
    33   Googolplex   289   0
       CollectiveWisdom   1231   


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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #19 on: October 12, 2020, 17:13 »
    Race 16  Gent Wevelgem

    This is more of an event in terms of scores:
    SENECHAL Florian   2nd, 132 pts for 4 teams
    BETTIOL Alberto   4th, 96 for 4
    DEGENKOLB John   6th, 76   3
    VAN AERT Wout   8th, 58   14
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu    9th, 52   9
    TEUNS Dylan   10th, 46   3
    ROWE Luke   12th, 35   5
    NAESEN Oliver   14th,  27   1
    DRUCKER Jempy   15th, 24   12
    JACOBS Johan   16th, 21   3
    plus 4 more of the top 30, and 21 other finishers getting 5 pts.

    1   Northerner   292 (Senechal, Bettiol, Drucker, Jacobs, Dillier (22nd) and 1 5er) :80 green points
    2   MellowVelo   222 (Senechal, Van Der Poel, Drucker and Dillier):  50 green points
    3   Laarsland   202 (Senechal, Teuns, Dillier and a 5):  35 green points
    4   Salvarani   196 (Degenkolb, Van Aert, Naesen, Jacobs, Dillier):  25 green points
    5   Josedin   177 :15 green points
    6   Shalgo   172: 10 green points
    7   Comodoro   159: 5 green points
    8   Vladimir   146:3  green points
    9   Bminchow   148: 2 green points
    10   DJSprtsch   144:1  green points
    11   Triley36   135
    12   SemirS   129
    13   JustSomeGuy   127
    13   Scrool07   127
    15   BlackBandit222   120
    16   Madrazo   111
    16   RoteLaterne   111
    18   Leadbelly   102
    19   Googolplex   100
    20   Otoxiep87   87
    21   Zaka_Fan   86
    22   Tobydawq   82
    23   LosBrolin   80
    24   AmisVelo   76
    25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   72
    26   Glomser   64
    26   Kazistuta   64
    28   Armchair   63
    29   Joelsim   52
    30   Hakkie2   39
    31   NorthAmericanScum   28
    32   Search   24
    33   Del1962   14
       CollectiveWisdom   101

    Green points
    Mellow Velo had been 14th on Sunday morning: he had a Pedersen of a day, with a joint first and a second, and is now top.  Northerner dropped out of the top ten for an hour or so, now 4th.

    1   MellowVelo   237.5
    2   Search   230
    3   Armchair   225.5
    4   Northerner   220
    5   Vladimir   219.5
    6   Bminchow   210.42
    7   Laarsland   201.59
    8   Joelsim   200.5
    9   Josedin   182.88
    10   JustSomeGuy   176.06


    Standings

    I suspected that my cobbles team might not be able to defend my lead: Bminchow, the most enthusiastic changer of his team at the re-boot of this game, might have made wide choices in doing so, although the twin heads of his team, Van Aert and Van Der Poel, did nothing for each other's chances in this race: the other two to go for the pair of CycloCross terrors is Semir in fourth, so it wasn't a bad tactic.  Salvarani is the salmon of the day, a seven place jump into the top ten.

    1   Bminchow   1664   1
    2   Armchair   1588   -1
    3   Josedin   1525   0
    4   SemirS   1355   0
    5   Otoxiep87   1301   0
    6   RoteLaterne   1252   1
    7   Salvarani   1246   7
    8   Madrazo   1241   0
    8   Zaka_Fan   1241   -2
    10   Shalgo   1236   2
    11   Comodoro   1223   1
    12   DJSprtsch   1181   3
    12   Tobydawq   1181   -1
    14   Joelsim   1159   -4
    15   Search   1142   -6
    16   Scrool07   1065   0
    17   MellowVelo   1035   2
    18   Northerner   1007   3
    19   Del1962   915   -2
    20   Laarsland   888   4
    21   Hakkie2   859   -3
    22   Leadbelly   840   -2
    23   Vladimir   836   2
    24   AmisVelo   776   -1
    25   Glomser   766   -3
    26   JustSomeGuy   705   2
    27   NorthAmericanScum   684   -1
    28   Triley36   666   2
    29   LosBrolin   663   -2
    30   Blues_in_the_Bottle   644   -1
    31   Kazistuta   536   0
    32   BlackBandit222   529   0
    33   Googolplex   389   0
       CollectiveWisdom   1332   

    Scheldeprijs on Wednesday, and with the cancellation of Paris Roubaix, which would have made a nice strong event to finish with, just two more to follow after that, Ronde and De Panne.

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #20 on: October 14, 2020, 19:35 »
    Race 17  Scheldeprijs

    The big name sprinters were too high a prijs to be selected for the game, but some points were gained:

    MERLIER Tim   4th, 58 pts for 3 teams
    BOUHANNI Nacer   11th, 20 for 8
    THEUNS Edward   14th, 14   for North American Scum
    HOFSTETTER Hugo   15th, 12   1for Googolplex
    KANTER Max   17th, 9   3
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert   23rd, 5   6
    SENECHAL Florian   30th, 5   4

    Green points

    1   NorthAmericanScum   72 (Merlier and Theuns)  80 green points
    2=   Josedin, Zaka_Fan   58 (Merlier)  42.5 each
    4   Laarsland   30 (Bouhanni and both 5 pointers)   25
    5   Armchair, LosBrolin, Northerner   25 (Bouhanni and one of the fivers)  10 each
    8   AmisVelo, Comodoro, Del1962, Triley36   20    1.5 each
    12   Googolplex   12
    13   Blues_in_the_Bottle, Bminchow, Joelsim   9
    16   DJSprtsch, Hakkie2, Madrazo, MellowVelo, Vladimir   5
    21   The rest   0
       CollectiveWisdom   20

    Standings

    It's close with two events left.  Armchair and Northerner each move up a place, Laarsland two, and Josedin three.

    1   MellowVelo   237.5
    2   Armchair   235.5
    3   Northerner   230
    3   Search   230
    5   Laarsland   226.59
    6   Josedin   225.38
    7   Vladimir   219.5
    8   Bminchow   210.42
    9   Joelsim   200.5
    10   JustSomeGuy   176.06


    Standings

    Third place outscored second outscroed first: it is bunching up at the top.

    1   Bminchow   1673   0
    2   Armchair   1613   0
    3   Josedin   1583   0
    4   SemirS   1355   0
    5   Otoxiep87   1301   0
    6   Zaka_Fan   1299   2
    7   RoteLaterne   1252   -1
    8   Madrazo   1246   0
    8   Salvarani   1246   -1
    10   Comodoro   1243   1
    11   Shalgo   1236   -1
    12   DJSprtsch   1186   0
    13   Tobydawq   1181   -1
    14   Joelsim   1168   0
    15   Search   1142   0
    16   Scrool07   1065   0
    17   MellowVelo   1040   0
    18   Northerner   1032   0
    19   Del1962   935   0
    20   Laarsland   918   0
    21   Hakkie2   864   0
    22   Vladimir   841   1
    23   Leadbelly   840   -1
    24   AmisVelo   796   0
    25   Glomser   766   0
    26   NorthAmericanScum   756   1
    27   JustSomeGuy   705   -1
    28   LosBrolin   688   1
    29   Triley36   686   -1
    30   Blues_in_the_Bottle   653   0
    31   Kazistuta   536   0
    32   BlackBandit222   529   0
    33   Googolplex   401   0
       CollectiveWisdom   1352


    Usually loads of points in Ronde van Vlaanderen, who will get them on Sunday?
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #21 on: October 18, 2020, 20:17 »
    Race 18  Ronde van Vlaanderen  The biggest race of the year (in terms of points won in this game, at any rate)

    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   1st, 280pts for  9 teams
    VAN AERT Wout   2nd, 170pts   14 teams
    NAESEN Oliver     7th, 90   for DJSprtsch
    DEGENKOLB John   9th,  70   3
    TEUNS Dylan   11th,  54   3
    SENECHAL Florian   12th, 46   4
    BETTIOL Alberto   16th, 32   4
    VANMARCKE Sep   17th,  30   7
    BYSTRØM Sven Erik   20th, 24   1
    KEUKELEIRE Jens   27th, 10   1
    and no less than 26 other finishers, scoring 5 points each

    1   SemirS   485  (Van der Poel, Van Aert, Vanmarcke and a fiver) 80 Green points
    2   Bminchow   460 (Van der Poel, Van Aert and 2 fivers)  50gp
    3   JustSomeGuy   363 (Van der Poel, Teuns, Bystrom and a fiver)  35
    4   MellowVelo   341 (Van der Poel, Senechal and 3 fivers) 25
    5   Salvarani   335 (Van Aert, Naesen, Degenkiolb and a fiver) 15
    6   Triley36   320    10
    7   Leadbelly   300     5
    8=   AmisVelo   295    2.5
    8=   Blues_in_the_Bottle   295     2.5
    10   Joelsim   285   1
    11   DJSprtsch   250
    12   Shalgo   245
    13   Josedin   212
    14   Madrazo   210
    14   Tobydawq   210
    16   Scrool07   205
    17   Comodoro   202
    18=   Otoxiep87   180
    18=   RoteLaterne   180
    18=   Zaka_Fan   180
    21   Armchair   175
    22   Laarsland   110
    23   Northerner   98
    24   LosBrolin   69
    25   BlackBandit222   57
    26   Vladimir   56
    27   Googolplex   55
    28   Kazistuta   40
    29   Glomser   35
    30=   Del1962   20
    30=   NorthAmericanScum   20
    32=   Hakkie2   15
    32=   Search   15
       CollectiveWisdom   185

    Green points

    Bminchow is up from 8th to just a few points from the lead, despite Mellow managing 4th on the day.
    This top ten includes all those within striking range of the top with one event left.

    1   MellowVelo   262.5
    2   Bminchow   260.42
    3   Armchair   235.5
    4   Northerner   230
    4   Search   230
    6   Laarsland   226.59
    7   Josedin   225.38
    8   Vladimir   219.5
    9   JustSomeGuy   211.06
    10   Joelsim   201.5


    Standings

    The two teams that combine Van Aert and Van der Poel are now in the same positions that those two riders had today.  Even at this late stage, moves of 4, 5 and 6 places have been possible.

    1   Bminchow   2133   0
    2   SemirS   1840   2
    3   Josedin   1795   0
    4   Armchair   1788   -2
    5   Salvarani   1581   3
    6   Otoxiep87   1481   -1
    6   Shalgo   1481   5
    8   Zaka_Fan   1479   -2
    9   Madrazo   1456   -1
    10   Joelsim   1453   4
    11   Comodoro   1445   -1
    12   DJSprtsch   1436   0
    13   RoteLaterne   1432   -6
    14   Tobydawq   1391   -1
    15   MellowVelo   1381   2
    16   Scrool07   1270   0
    17   Search   1157   -2
    18   Leadbelly   1140   5
    19   Northerner   1130   -1
    20   AmisVelo   1091   4
    21   JustSomeGuy   1068   6
    22   Laarsland   1028   -2
    23   Triley36   1006   6
    24   Del1962   955   -5
    25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   948   5
    26   Vladimir   897   -4
    27   Hakkie2   879   -6
    28   Glomser   801   -3
    29   NorthAmericanScum   776   -3
    30   LosBrolin   757   -2
    31   BlackBandit222   586   1
    32   Kazistuta   576   -1
    33   Googolplex   456   0
       CollectiveWisdom   1537   


    With the points available at the Dreidaagse, Semir would need the first two and one more finisher to draw level.  But the battle for the podium remains alive.  All off to check out start lists for Wednesday's final leg of this rather disjointed edition.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #22 on: October 19, 2020, 10:18 »
    So this time it wasn't my fault. 
    I specifically keep a look out for Michael Valgren in the results because of the odd way that his name is given on CQ, and I was a bit surprised not to see him there last night, as he had been on the startlist last time I looked.  This morning, I see that he (and not Mikael Delage) finished 21st, gaining 5 points each for Del1962, Hakkie, Rote Laterne, Tobydawq and Vladimir.

    Fortunately for my workload, none of them gain green points for the Ronde, even with the additional 22 points, so I don't need to alter that  table, but for the purposes of completeness and accuracy, the penultimate standings are:

    1   Bminchow   2133
    2   SemirS   1840
    3   Josedin   1795
    4   Armchair   1788
    5   Salvarani   1581
    6   Otoxiep87   1481
    6   Shalgo   1481
    8   Zaka_Fan   1479
    9   Madrazo   1456
    10   RoteLaterne   1454
    11   Joelsim   1453
    12   Comodoro   1445
    13   DJSprtsch   1436
    14   Tobydawq   1413
    15   MellowVelo   1381
    16   Scrool07   1270
    17   Search   1157
    18   Leadbelly   1140
    19   Northerner   1130
    20   AmisVelo   1091
    21   JustSomeGuy   1068
    22   Laarsland   1028
    23   Triley36   1006
    24   Del1962   977
    25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   948
    26   Vladimir   919
    27   Hakkie2   901
    28   Glomser   801
    29   NorthAmericanScum   776
    30   LosBrolin   757
    31   BlackBandit222   586
    32   Kazistuta   576
    33   Googolplex   456
       CollectiveWisdom   1537

    The extra 22 points put Rote Laterne into the top ten.

    And this addendum gives me the chance to remind you of the Vuelta game: Tuesday is an odd deadline, but this is 2020.


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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #23 on: October 21, 2020, 19:25 »
    Final event, Race 19: Dreidaagse Brugges - De Panne

    A good race by all accounts (I saw very little of it) but scarcely a grand finale in terms of the game.

    DECLERCQ Tim   2nd, 108 points for    Googolplex
    MERLIER Tim   3rd, 92 for Josedin, NAS and Zaka Fan
    DEGENKOLB John   4th, 78   for DJSprtsch, Salvarani and Shalgo
    DRUCKER Jempy   5th, 70   12 teams
    VAN LERBERGHE Bert    7th, 54   6
    RICKAERT Jonas   10th 36   2
    Plus 5 more riders in the top 25, and 5 other scoring finishers


    1   Googolplex   200 (DeClercq, Drucker and Hofstetter (14th, 22)   80 green points
    2   Shalgo   153  (Degenkolb, Drucker and a 5er)   50 green pts
    3   DJSprtsch   132 (Degenkolb and Van Lerberghe)  35
    4   Northerner   127 (Drucker, Rickert, Senechal (17th, 16) and a 5er) 25
    5=   LosBrolin   , Madrazo   124 (Drucker, Van Lerberghe)  12.5 each
    7   NorthAmericanScum   97   5
    8=   Josedin, Zaka_Fan   92    2.5 each
    10   Hakkie2   90   1
    11   MellowVelo   86
    12   Salvarani   83
    13   Glomser, Leadbelly   75
    15=   Bminchow, Laarsland, RoteLaterne, Search, Triley36   70
    20   Armchair   54
    21   JustSomeGuy   53
    22   Blues_in_the_Bottle   37
    23   AmisVelo   23
    24   Vladimir   16
    25   Scrool07   14
    26   Kazistuta   9
    27=   BlackBandit222, Tobydawq   5
    29=   Comodoro, Del1962, Joelsim, Otoxiep87, SemirS   0
       CollectiveWisdom   70


    Green points

    Final standings

    Of the top ten, only Northerner and Josedin gained green points today.  They each move up one place, which for Northerner gains a place on the final podium.

    1   MellowVelo   262.5
    2   Bminchow   260.42
    3   Northerner   255
    4   Armchair   235.5
    5   Search   230
    6   Josedin   227.88
    7   Laarsland   226.59
    8   Vladimir   219.5
    9   JustSomeGuy   211.06
    10   Joelsim   201.5
    11   Googolplex   177.97
    12   SemirS   164.33
    13   Comodoro   161
    14   Hakkie2   127.56
    15   Otoxiep87   125.38
    16   DJSprtsch   117.2
    17   Shalgo   116.67
    18   Blues_in_the_Bottle   116
    19   Salvarani   114.29
    20   NorthAmericanScum   100
    21   AmisVelo   90.33
    22   LosBrolin   78
    23   Zaka_Fan   68.88
    24   RoteLaterne   62.88
    25   Triley36   52
    26   Madrazo   50.08
    27   Leadbelly   42
    28   Kazistuta   35.5
    29   Tobydawq   35.38
    30   Del1962   24
    31   Glomser   23.5
    32   Scrool07   0.58
    33   BlackBandit222   0

    Mellow Velo was not top scorer on any race on his own, but had a share of the victory at Paris-Tours, and second places in Gent-Wevelgem and Lombardia, which made a good base for his score.  Congratulations to him and Bminchow, and the above mentioned Northerner for making the podium (even if you kept me off it).

    Main Classification: Final standings

    Bminchow's lead was indeed unassailable, and his inclusion of Van der Poel when team adjustments were allowed at the season's relaunch was the key to victory.  But it was MvdP's fall today, and therefore his failure to score, that caused Semir's 2 place fall from the final podium.  Being the best scorer on the day rescued Googolplex from last place, and DJSprtsch makes a late jump to be in the final top ten.

    1   Bminchow   2203   0
    2   Josedin   1887   1
    3   Armchair   1842   1
    4   SemirS   1840   -2
    5   Salvarani   1664   0
    6   Shalgo   1634   0
    7   Madrazo   1580   2
    8   Zaka_Fan   1571   0
    9   DJSprtsch   1568   4
    10   RoteLaterne   1524   0
    11   Otoxiep87   1481   -5
    12   MellowVelo   1467   3
    13   Joelsim   1453   -2
    14   Comodoro   1445   -2
    15   Tobydawq   1418   -1
    16   Scrool07   1284   0
    17   Northerner   1257   2
    18   Search   1227   -1
    19   Leadbelly   1215   -1
    20   JustSomeGuy   1121   1
    21   AmisVelo   1114   -1
    22   Laarsland   1098   0
    23   Triley36   1076   0
    24   Hakkie2   991   3
    25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   985   0
    26   Del1962   977   -2
    27   Vladimir   935   -1
    28   LosBrolin   881   2
    29   Glomser   876   -1
    30   NorthAmericanScum   873   -1
    31   Googolplex   656   2
    32   BlackBandit222   591   -1
    33   Kazistuta   585   -1
       CollectiveWisdom   1607   


    I'd like to hope I won't need to run a Spring Classics game in October again (but who knows what COVID has in store for us in 2021?), but it's certainly been an interesting edition. 


    Thanks to all who entered, and to the riders who rewarded or mocked our wisdom, and the CQ team, and congratulations to Bminchow and Josedin, and to Mellow Velo for the green jersey.

    I'll do a bit of analysis if I get a chance to soon, but with two GT games going on, that might be tricky. 
    If you think you can understand the system I have devised in the spreadsheet, the numbers are all here for you to explore.
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