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2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
« on: July 23, 2020, 01:28 »
Back when this year appeared to be like any other, 33 of us entered the Spring Classics CQ Game.


We chose teams of 12 riders, (maximum total 2019 CQ score of 3000) to score points in 24 European 1.Pro and 1.WT races in the Spring.


But after 4 races, the world went mad, and there were no more races.  I declared Vladimir the winner, and have no intention of depriving him of that title.  But all the effort that we put into picking our teams yielded precious little sport, so let's have another go.


The goals of some riders, and the balance of skills that will garner points, have changed, so I will allow you to change up to 6 of your team, but the total budget (still based on year to 31/12/19 CQ scores) remains the same.  We will all have had the benefit (if it is a benefit) of seeing other people's selections, but deciding whether it is good to be guided by that remains your judgement.


Scores already gained (from Omloop, Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne, Faun-Ardeche and Drome) are retained: ditching, or taking on, riders who scored in those races will not affect your score.  But of the remaining 17 races listed for that game, several have abandoned any thought of re-scheduling for this year (GP Industria & Artigianato, Nokere Koerse, GP Denain, Koksijde Classic, GP Indurain, Tro-Bro Léon, Eschborn Frankfurt and Dwars door Vlaanderen), and that leaves us with gaps in the spreadsheet, and the freedom to choose outside the Spring period.


So I will be replacing those 8 races with Il Lombardia, Bretagne- Ouest France, GP Quebec, GP Montreal, World Championships Road Race,   Milan-Torino, Paris-Tours and Dwars door het Hageland (ie, the WT one day races that were not at the right time of year, the WCRR, two of my favourite 1.Pro races and the one that seems to be the most spring classic-like).


If you don't submit any changes, I'll enter your team as it is anyway, so if you entered in February, you can't escape.  And if you didn't enter in February, I will allow a new entry, but you obviously don't get the points some people have already banked from early in the season, and also have a reduced budget (10% lower, 2700 2019 points) to make up for your selection not being at least half those you fancied the chances of 5 months ago (and as a punishment for your disloyalty to the game back then).


Teams to me by the start of Strade Bianche on 1 August by PM please,  either here or at Velorooms: as ever, just the name (no prices, no team names) and in CQ format (Surname Forename and watch out for how CQ treats Spanish Portuguese and Danish names, among others) if at all possible.


I'll need to do a bit of alteration to the spreadsheet, so I'll do that tomorrow and then get back here with a clearer formatted list of the races and anything else that I may have missed.  Until then, have a think about how that changed list of races, and objectives of the riders, might make you want to alter your team.  Here is the original spreadsheet: that will show you your original picks (and everyone else's) and gives (on the Price tab) a list of 2019 prices  and the CQ versions of names.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #1 on: July 23, 2020, 23:33 »
    So since I announced the redux game, two of the new list ( the Canadian races) have been cancelled.  So I will replace them with 2 more 1.Pro events (Eurometropole and Wallonie), but from here on, anything cancelled just means one event fewer here.


    So the races for the Redux Classics game are:

    Omloop

    Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne

    Faun-Ardeche

     Drome 

    Those  have already been run, and your team points for those are locked in, regardless of what team changes you might make.


    1 Aug  Strade Bianche  (180 pts for winner, 108 2nd, 92 3rd, 5 for finishing)

    5 Aug  Milan Torino  (130, 78, 66: top 30 score)

    8 Aug Milan San Remo (280, 170, 145, 5 to finish)

    15 Aug Dwars door het Hageland  (as Milan-Torino)

    15 Aug   Lombardia (as Milan- San Remo)

    25 Aug  Bretagne Ouest France  (220, 132, 112, 5 to finish)

    12 Sept Eurometropole  (as Milan Torino)

    16 Sept GP de Wallonie  (as Milan Torino)

    27 Sept  World Championship RR (400, 240, 210, 10 to finish)

    30 Sept  Fleche Wallonne (as Ouest France)

    4 Oct Liege-Bastogne-Liege (as Milan San Remo)

    7 Oct Brabantse Pijl (as Milan Torino)

    10 Oct Amstel Gold  (as Ouest France)

    11 Oct Gent- Wevelgem  (as Ouest France)

    11 Oct Paris Tours   (as Milan Torino)

    14 Oct  Scheldeprijs   (as Milan Torino)

    18 Oct  Ronde van Vlaanderen  (as Milan San Remo)

    21 Oct  Dreidaagse De Panne (as Strade Bianche)

    25 Oct Paris-Roubaix  (as Milan San Remo)


     The high points yield of the WCRR considering the different profile of riders who might shine there compared to most of the list might make for some interesting selection decisions.


    I guess I need to start reading some of these statements on who intends doing what races.  Let me know if there are any questions, otherwise I will simply sit back and await your transfers in and out (or indeed, new entries).
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 17:51 »
    Cool Team JSG classics rides again
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #3 on: July 26, 2020, 17:09 »

    I'll keep my starting squad
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #4 on: July 31, 2020, 18:13 »
    A few more hours this evening, and a few tomorrow morning, if you want to make any alterations to the team you sent in in February, or if you want to come in as a new entry.


    Only three managers have made any alterations so far, including me.  Time is running short for the rest of you.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #5 on: August 01, 2020, 17:17 »
    No-one came in as a new, penalised, entry, and only 4 teams made any changes:

    Amis Velo
    Out: SAGAN Peter
    VAN DER HOORN Taco


    In:VAN POPPEL Danny
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu

    Bminchow
    Out: ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
    JUNGELS Bob
    THEUNS Edward
    MCLAY Daniel
    EDMONDSON Alexander


    In:VAN DER POEL Mathieu
    DILLIER Silvan
    BATTAGLIN Enrico
    COVI Alessandro
    KANTER Max


    Search
    Out:DE BACKER Bert
    DEVENYNS Dries
    FELLINE Fabio
    MOSCON Gianni
    VAN AERT Wout

    In: DE BIE Sean
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal
    MODOLO Sacha
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian
    SIMMONS Quinn


    And my own switches
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    Out:DILLIER Silvan
    MOSCON Gianni
    KÄMNA Lennard


    In: KREUZIGER Roman
    KELDERMAN Wilco
    FROOME Chris



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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #6 on: August 01, 2020, 23:15 »
    Race 5  Strade Bianche

    A popular pick as a winner, and the game already has very nearly as many points earned in August as in the spring.
    VAN AERT Wout   1st, 180pts   14 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian   3rd, 92pts for Search
    BETTIOL Alberto   4th, 78   4 teams
    STYBAR Zdenek   6th, 62   8
    ROSA Diego   10th, 36   1
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal    12th, 27   6
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   15th,  20   9
    and four more finishers for 5 points each.


    1=   Comodoro, Josedin   258 (Van Aert and Bettiol) (65 Green points each)
    3=   Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne   247 (Van Aert, Stybar and a 5)  (30)
    5   Zaka_Fan   242  (Van Aert, Stybar)  (15)
    6   Armchair   207 (Van Aert, Kwiatkowski)  (10)
    7   SemirS   205 (Van Aert, Van der Poel and a 5)  (5)
    8   Bminchow   200 (Van Aert, Van der Poel) (3)
    9   Tobydawq   185 (Van Aert and a 5) (2)
    10=   DJSprtsch, Madrazo, Salvarani, Scrool07, Shalgo   180 (0.2)
    15   BlackBandit222   140
    16   Search   119
    17   Leadbelly   87
    18   Northerner   78
    19=   Googolplex, Laarsland, LosBrolin   62
    22   Joelsim   56
    23=   Del1962, Hakkie2   32
    25=   Glomser, NorthAmericanScum   27
    27=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, JustSomeGuy, MellowVelo, Triley36   20
    32   Vladimir   5
    33   Kazistuta   0
       CollectiveWisdom   242

    Green Point standings
    Joint 3rd today lifts Otoxiep from 4th to top of this ranking
    1   Otoxiep87   110
    2   Googolplex   97.97
    3   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    4   Vladimir   85
    5   Josedin   80
    6   Comodoro   65
    7   Hakkie2   62.56
    8   Salvarani   54.79
    8   Shalgo   54.79
    10   Laarsland   54.59

    Standings

    Today's race scored almost as many as the 4 earlier ones, therefore there is only a passing similarity between this and the pre-lockdown standings.  The only real consistency (apart from BitB in last) is the virtual lead of the Collective Wisdom team.  The top three were 8th, 9th and 17th before this race, but Otoxiep's jump is beaten by Rote Laterne and Comodoro, each moving up 18 spots.

    1   Josedin   415 
    2   Zaka_Fan   395
    3   Otoxiep87   388
    4   Bminchow   374
    5=   Madrazo   359
    5=   RoteLaterne   359
    7   Armchair   355
    8   Salvarani   327
    9   Tobydawq   325
    10   DJSprtsch   310
    11   Shalgo   305
    12   Search   304
    13   Comodoro   288
    14   SemirS   243
    15   Googolplex   240
    16   Leadbelly   235
    17   Northerner   224
    18   Vladimir   221
    19   Scrool07   218
    20   LosBrolin   215
    21   Glomser   198
    22   AmisVelo   185
    23   BlackBandit222   176
    24   Del1962   174
    25   Laarsland   162
    26   MellowVelo   161
    27   Kazistuta   147
    28   JustSomeGuy   141
    29   Hakkie2   129
    30   Joelsim   103
    31   Triley36   65
    32   NorthAmericanScum   53
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   35
       CollectiveWisdom   469


    1   Josedin   415
    2   Zaka_Fan   395
    3   Otoxiep87   388
    4   Bminchow   374
    5   Madrazo   359
    5   RoteLaterne   359
    7   Armchair   355
    8   Salvarani   327
    9   Tobydawq   325
    10   DJSprtsch   310
    11   Shalgo   305
    12   Search   304
    13   Comodoro   288
    14   SemirS   243
    15   Googolplex   240
    16   Leadbelly   235
    17   Northerner   224
    18   Vladimir   221
    19   Scrool07   218
    20   LosBrolin   215
    21   Glomser   198
    22   AmisVelo   185
    23   BlackBandit222   176
    24   Del1962   174
    25   Laarsland   162
    26   MellowVelo   161
    27   Kazistuta   147
    28   JustSomeGuy   141
    29   Hakkie2   129
    30   Joelsim   103
    31   Triley36   65
    32   NorthAmericanScum   53
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   35
       CollectiveWisdom   469

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2020, 19:26 »
    Maybe there is something calming in doing this, takes my mind of what we all just saw in Poland.  Hope it doesn't feel disrespectful or trite.

    Race 6  Milan-Torino but not the Milano-Torino we normally see.

    VAN AERT Wout   3rd, 66pts   14 teams
    Van Poppel Danny   5th, 52pts   5 teams
    BOUHANNI Nacer   6th, 46pts    8 teams
    plus 3 others in the top 15, scoring in the teens, and 2 five point, top 30, finishers.

    1   DJSprtsch   141 (Van Aert, Van Poppel, Naesen (18) Zabel (5))  (80 green points)
    2   AmisVelo   114 (Van Poppel, Bouhanni, Van der Poel (16))  (50)
    3=   Armchair, Comodoro   112 (Van Aert, Bouhanni) (30 each)
    5   Northerner   98 (Van Poppel, Bouhanni) (15)
    6   SemirS   87 (10)
    7   Bminchow   82 (5)
    8   Salvarani   78 (3)
    9=   Josedin, Madrazo, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne, Scrool07, Shalgo, Tobydawq, Zaka_Fan   66  (0.38 each)
    17   Triley36   62
    18=   Glomser, NorthAmericanScum   52
    20   Laarsland   51
    21=   Del1962, LosBrolin   46
    23=   Blues_in_the_Bottle,    Joelsim, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, MellowVelo   16
    28=   BlackBandit222, Googolplex, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, Search, Vladimir   0
       CollectiveWisdom   112

    Green points
    Comodoro up from 6th to 3rd, DJS into the top ten.

    1   Otoxiep87   110.38
    2   Googolplex   97.97
    3   Comodoro   95
    4   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    5   Vladimir   85
    6   Josedin   80.38
    7   DJSprtsch   80.2
    8   Hakkie2   62.56
    9   Salvarani   57.79
    10   Shalgo   55.17


    Standings

    Josedin holds onto the lead, while Armchair jumps 5 places to 2nd.  DJSprtsch moves up from 10th to 6th as the top scorer today, and Comodoro just nudges into the top ten, while Amis Velo has a 6 place move to be jumper of the day.

    1   Josedin   481
    2   Armchair   467
    3   Zaka_Fan   461
    4   Bminchow   456
    5   Otoxiep87   454
    6   DJSprtsch   451
    7   Madrazo   425
    7   RoteLaterne   425
    9   Salvarani   405
    10   Comodoro   400
    11   Tobydawq   391
    12   Shalgo   371
    13   SemirS   330
    14   Northerner   322
    15   Search   304
    16   AmisVelo   299
    17   Scrool07   284
    18   LosBrolin   261
    19   Leadbelly   251
    20   Glomser   250
    21   Googolplex   240
    22   Vladimir   221
    23   Del1962   220
    24   Laarsland   213
    25   MellowVelo   177
    26   BlackBandit222   176
    27   JustSomeGuy   157
    28   Kazistuta   147
    29   Hakkie2   129
    30   Triley36   127
    31   Joelsim   119
    32   NorthAmericanScum   105
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   51
       CollectiveWisdom   581


    Spreadsheet at Google Drive 

    Reconvene here after Milan-San Remo
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #8 on: August 08, 2020, 23:12 »
    Race 7: Milan-San Remo

    Sometimes the biggest races score low in this game, because the main protagonists prove too expensive to fit into a team.  Not this time, for the winner if no-one else in the top 12, and WvA looks like he might be an essential for any team to get anywhere in the game.

    VAN AERT Wout   1st, 280pts for 14 teams
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   13th, 42 pts   9 teams
    NAESEN Oliver   14th, 38 for Salvarani
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   15th, 34   6
    JORGENSON Matteo   17th, 30 for Black Bandit
    BETTIOL Alberto   18th, 28   4
    STYBAR Zdenek   19th, 26   8
    STANNARD Robert   26th, 12   1
    and 20 other finishers, getting 5 points each


    1   Armchair   329 (Van Aert, Kwiatkowski and 3 fives) (80 green points)
    2   SemirS   327 (Van Aert, Van der Poel and one fiver) (50)
    3   Comodoro   323 (Van Aert, Bettiol and 3 fives) (35)
    4   Bminchow   322 (Van Aert and Van der Poel) (25)
    5   Salvarani   318 (15)
    6   Otoxiep87   316 (10)
    7   Josedin   313 (5)
    8=   RoteLaterne, Zaka_Fan   311 (2.5 each)
    10   DJSprtsch   305 (1)
    11=   Shalgo, Tobydawq   295
    13   Madrazo, Scrool07   290
    15   BlackBandit222   84
    16   Leadbelly   73
    17   Del1962   71
    18   AmisVelo   62
    19   Blues_in_the_Bottle   52
    19   Triley36   52
    21=   Glomser, Search   49
    23=   Joelsim, JustSomeGuy   47
    25   LosBrolin   46
    26   Hakkie2   44
    27   Northerner   43
    28   MellowVelo   42
    29   Laarsland   41
    30   NorthAmericanScum   39
    31   Googolplex   31
    32   Kazistuta   20
    33   Vladimir   15
       CollectiveWisdom   316

    Green Jersey
    1   Comodoro   130
    2   Armchair   126
    3   Otoxiep87   120.38
    4   Googolplex   97.97
    5   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    6   Josedin   85.38
    7   Vladimir   85
    8   DJSprtsch   81.2
    9   Salvarani   72.79
    10   Bminchow   72.59


    Standings
    In an unlikely development, I seem to have both top scored today and moved up to the top of the tabel.  I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon.  Bminchow has also moved up onto the podium, and Comodoro and Salvarani move up within the top ten.  Scrool07 and Blackbandit222 share the honourable mention for having moved forward most (3 places).

    1   Armchair   796
    2   Josedin   794   
    3   Bminchow   778
    4   Zaka_Fan   772
    5   Otoxiep87   770
    6   DJSprtsch   756
    7   RoteLaterne   736
    8   Comodoro   723
    8   Salvarani   723
    10   Madrazo   715
    11   Tobydawq   686
    12   Shalgo   666
    13   SemirS   657
    14   Scrool07   574
    15   Northerner   365
    16   AmisVelo   361
    17   Search   353
    18   Leadbelly   324
    19   LosBrolin   307
    20   Glomser   299
    21   Del1962   291
    22   Googolplex   271
    23   BlackBandit222   260
    24   Laarsland   254
    25   Vladimir   236
    26   MellowVelo   219
    27   JustSomeGuy   204
    28   Triley36   179
    29   Hakkie2   173
    30   Kazistuta   167
    31   Joelsim   166
    32   NorthAmericanScum   144
    33   Blues_in_the_Bottle   103
       CollectiveWisdom   897


    And with WvA having taken 526 points since the three races since the relaunch and the opportunity to change your team (the lowest team that chose him is a head of the highest that did not), Search may be permitted to kick himself for having dropped him in favour of Schachmann.

    Two races next Saturday, Lombardia and Hageland: until then, numbers galore
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #9 on: August 15, 2020, 16:37 »
    Two races today, the minor one of which has finished forst:
    Race 8: Dwars door het Hageland

    Included to retain some of the minor cobbled category that some riders may have been selected for.

    Hakkie and Northerner both have the winner (130 points), Jonas Rickaert, and 2nd placed Eekhoff (78 pts) is on 7 teams (Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Del1962, Josedin, Laarsland, Leadbelly and Los Brolin)
    Also Senechal (4th, 58 for 4 teams) Merlier (5th, 52, 3), Van der Hoorn (11th, 20, 3) Van Gestel (12th, 18, 1) and 4 5 pointers (21st -30th), including popular bargain Sean de Bie.

    Northerner   188 (80 green points)
    Josedin   140 (50)
    Laarsland   136 (35)
    Hakkie2   130 (25)
    Blues_in_the_Bottle   103 (15)
    Del1962, Leadbelly   83 (7.5 each)
    Bminchow, LosBrolin   78 (2.5)
    MellowVelo, Vladimir   58 (0.5)
    NorthAmericanScum, Zaka_Fan   52
    Kazistuta   25
    Scrool07   20
    Otoxiep87   18
    AmisVelo, DJSprtsch, Joelsim   10
    Armchair, Comodoro, Googolplex, RoteLaterne, Salvarani, Search, Tobydawq   5
    BlackBandit222, Glomser, JustSomeGuy, Madrazo, SemirS, Shalgo, Triley36   0

    CollectiveWisdom   5

    Green points
    Josedin from 6th to top

    1   Josedin   135.38
    2   Comodoro   130
    3   Armchair   126
    4   Northerner   125
    5   Otoxiep87   120.38
    6   Googolplex   97.97
    7   JustSomeGuy   92.56
    8   Laarsland   89.59
    9   Hakkie2   87.56
    10   Vladimir   85.5

    Standings

    Those who were second, third and fourth before this race all overtake the erstwhile leader.  No other changes of position in the top 15.  Search and Leadbelly each move up 7 places.

    1   Josedin   934
    2   Bminchow   856
    3   Zaka_Fan   824
    4   Armchair   801
    5   Otoxiep87   788
    6   DJSprtsch   766
    7   RoteLaterne   741
    8   Comodoro   728
    8   Salvarani   728
    10   Madrazo   715
    11   Tobydawq   691
    12   Shalgo   666
    13   SemirS   657
    14   Scrool07   594
    15   Northerner   553
    16   Leadbelly   407
    17   Laarsland   390
    18   LosBrolin   385
    19   Del1962   374
    20   AmisVelo   371
    21   Search   358
    22   Hakkie2   303
    23   Glomser   299
    24   Vladimir   294
    25   MellowVelo   277
    26   Googolplex   276
    27   BlackBandit222   260
    28   Blues_in_the_Bottle   206
    29   JustSomeGuy   204
    30   NorthAmericanScum   196
    31   Kazistuta   192
    32   Triley36   179
    33   Joelsim   176
       CollectiveWisdom   902

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #10 on: August 15, 2020, 19:29 »
    Race 9: Il Lombardia

    The bigger of today's races, but a smaller contribution to the game's points total than Hageland.  In the same way, I suppose, as we choose riders such that the Ardennes races tend to yield fewer points than the cobbles.

    SCHACHMANN Maximilian   7th, 90 pts  for Search, who swapped him in in the break
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu   10th, 62 points   9 teams
    DE MARCHI Alessandro   11th 54   for Otoxiep87
    KELDERMAN Wilco   19th, 26   1
    GESCHKE Simon   20th, 24   2
    and 5 five point finishers

    1   Search   114 (Schachmann and Geschke) (80 green points)
    2   MellowVelo   91 (Van der Poel, Geschke and a five) (50)
    3=   Bminchow, Joelsim   67 (30)
    5=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, SemirS, Triley36   62 (6)
    11   Otoxiep87   54
    12   Armchair   26
    13   Del1962   10
    14=   Comodoro, Kazistuta, LosBrolin, NorthAmericanScum, Vladimir   5
    19=   Everyone else, including CollectiveWisdom   0

    Green points

    1   Josedin   135.38
    2   Comodoro   130
    2   Search   130
    4   Armchair   126
    5   Northerner   125
    6   Otoxiep87   120.38
    7   Bminchow   105.09
    8   JustSomeGuy   98.56
    9   Googolplex   97.97
    10   Laarsland   89.59


    Standings

    Zaka Fan's place on the virtual podium lasted only a couple of hours, with Otoxiep passing both him and Armchair to third.  Semir's two-headed team makes the top ten, and Search adds to his 7 place jump earlier today with a 5 place move now.

    1   Josedin   934
    2   Bminchow   923
    3   Otoxiep87   842
    4   Armchair   827
    5   Zaka_Fan   824
    6   DJSprtsch   766
    7   RoteLaterne   741
    8   Comodoro   733
    9   Salvarani   728
    10   SemirS   719
    11   Madrazo   715
    12   Tobydawq   691
    13   Shalgo   666
    14   Scrool07   594
    15   Northerner   553
    16   Search   472
    17   Leadbelly   469
    18   AmisVelo   433
    19   Laarsland   390
    19   LosBrolin   390
    21   Del1962   384
    22   MellowVelo   368
    23   Hakkie2   303
    24   Glomser   299
    24   Vladimir   299
    26   Googolplex   276
    27   Blues_in_the_Bottle   268
    28   JustSomeGuy   266
    29   BlackBandit222   260
    30   Joelsim   243
    31   Triley36   241
    32   NorthAmericanScum   201
    33   Kazistuta   197
       CollectiveWisdom   902

    Bretagne Ouest (GP Plouay) next up, on Tuesday week, by which time I should be sorting the first entries for the Tour de France game.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #11 on: August 15, 2020, 22:56 »
    Rickaert only cost 23 points for those 130 that he earned today, and Eekhoff also turns a profit.  De Bie breaks even, but for a cost of 5 points, that is a minor achievement.

    And that should have been Laarsland and Hakkie that moved up 7 places in Hageland, not Search and Leadbelly.  I'll blame that on my mind being on Evenepoel's condition as I typed it.

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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #12 on: August 25, 2020, 19:09 »
    Race 10  Bretagne Classic Ouest France

    Michael Matthews was probably a bit too expensive to pick, unless he gets a few other results, but Luka Mezgec in this race would have created a decent return had anyone gone for him.  Instead, the point scoring riders today that we did pick are:
    SENECHAL Florian   3rd, 112pts for 4 teams
    SIMMONS Quinn   6th, 76pts for 21
    EEKHOFF Nils   7th, 66, 7
    GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   10th, 46   for Comodoro and Kazistuta
    HAAS Nathan   19th, 17   1
    THWAITES Scott   23rd, 13   2
    VANMARCKE Sep   28th, 8   7
    and another 17 scoring 5 each for reaching the finish line.

    1=   Laarsland (Senechal, Eekhoff and 2 fives), Vladimir(Senechal and Simmons   188 (65 green points each)
    3   LosBrolin   147 (Simmons, Eekhoff and a fiver) (35)
    4=   Bminchow, Josedin   142 (Simmons and Eekhoff) (20)
    6   Kazistuta   130 (Simmons, Garcia, Vanmarcke) (10)
    7   MellowVelo   129 (Senechal and Haas) (5)
    8   Northerner   117 (3)
    9   Madrazo   102 (2)
    10   Tobydawq   94 (1)
    11=   Scrool07, Search   89
    13   Zaka_Fan   86
    14=   SemirS, Triley36   84
    16   Armchair, BlackBandit222, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, NorthAmericanScum, Otoxiep87   81
    22=   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Joelsim, RoteLaterne, Shalgo   76
    27   Del1962   71
    28   Comodoro   46
    29   DJSprtsch   25
    30   Googolplex   8
    31=   Glomser, Hakkie, Salvarani   5
       CollectiveWisdom   76


    Green points
    The two teams who shared top scores today are modestly placed in the main competition, but both appear on the podium in the minor award.

    1   Josedin   155.38
    2   Laarsland   154.59
    3   Vladimir   150.5
    4   Comodoro   130
    4   Search   130
    6   Northerner   128
    7   Armchair   126
    8   Bminchow   125.09
    9   Otoxiep87   120.38
    10   JustSomeGuy   98.56


    Standings
    Of those who were in the top ten after the last race, only the top two got anything other than Simmons (the most popular pick in the game) and one or two fivers, and they matched each other exactly, so the gap between them is the same, and their margin over the rest of the field increases.  Tobydawq came 10th on the day and moves up to 10th overall, but Madrazo makes a more impressive burst into the ten, up 5 places to a share of 6th.  But not quite the jump of the day: Koronin moves up 6 (to  6th from bottom)

    1   Josedin   1076
    2   Bminchow   1065
    3   Otoxiep87   923
    4   Zaka_Fan   910
    5   Armchair   908
    6   Madrazo   817
    6   RoteLaterne   817
    8   SemirS   803
    9   DJSprtsch   791
    10   Tobydawq   785
    11   Comodoro   779
    12   Shalgo   742
    13   Salvarani   733
    14   Scrool07   683
    15   Northerner   670
    16   Laarsland   578
    17   Search   561
    18   Leadbelly   550
    19   LosBrolin   537
    20   AmisVelo   509
    21   MellowVelo   497
    22   Vladimir   487
    23   Del1962   455
    24   JustSomeGuy   347
    25   Blues_in_the_Bottle   344
    26   BlackBandit222   341
    27   Kazistuta   327
    28   Triley36   325
    29   Joelsim   319
    30   Hakkie2   308
    31   Glomser   304
    32   Googolplex   284
    33   NorthAmericanScum   282
       CollectiveWisdom   978


    The next two events (Eurometropole and GP de Wallonie) have been cancelled, and the one after that is uncertain at best (the World Championships).  So I'm not sure now long these numbers remain the status quo.  From my point of view, I guess it saves me trying to do updates on this during the Tour de France, because I'll be busy each evening during that with updates of that game, so don't forget to get your entry in on that one: the thread will be near this somewhere.
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    Re: 2020 Classics CQ Game Redux
    « Reply #13 on: September 27, 2020, 18:32 »
    Race 11  World Championship  (it would have been race 13, but we lost Eurometropole and GP Wallonie

    This is on a bigger scale of points than any of the other races.  But that is mitigated by no-one choosing the winner.  But here are those that we did pick:

    VAN AERT Wout   2nd 240 points for 14 teams
    HIRSCHI Marc   3rd 210pts for Joelsim
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   4th 180   6 teams
    SCHACHMANN Maximilian   9th 96 for Search
    GESCHKE  Simon   17th  30   2
    BETTIOL Alberto   18th  27   4
    and only 4 of the 58 riders who finished outside the top 30, which is a shame as they are worth twice as many points here as in a WT race (10 points)


    1   Armchair   420 (Van Aert and Kwiatkowski) 80 green points
    2   Search   306 (Kwiatkowski, Schachmann, Geschke) 50
    3=   Comodoro, Josedin   267 (Van Aert and Bettiol) 30
    5   Otoxiep87   260(Van Aert and 2 tens) 15
    6=   Salvarani, Shalgo   250 (Van Aert and a ten) 7.5
    8=   Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Madrazo, RoteLaterne, Scrool07, SemirS, Tobydawq, Zaka_Fan   240 (Van Aert) 0.75
    16   Joelsim   210
    17   Hakkie2   190
    18=   Del1962, Glomser, NorthAmericanScum   180
    21   BlackBandit222   37
    22   MellowVelo   30
    23   Northerner   27
    24   Laarsland, Triley36   10
    26   AmisVelo, Blues_in_the_Bottle, Googolplex, JustSomeGuy, Kazistuta, Leadbelly, LosBrolin, Vladimir   0
       CollectiveWisdom   240

    Green points
    The same two riders that made Armchair today's top scorer did the same for him in Milan San Remo, and with two daily wins, he moves to the top of the minor classification.  The top 4 teams here were the top 4 today.

    1   Armchair   206
    2   Josedin   185.38
    3   Search   180
    4   Comodoro   160
    5   Laarsland   154.59
    6   Vladimir   150.5
    7   Otoxiep87   135.38
    8   Northerner   128
    9   Bminchow   125.84
    10   JustSomeGuy   98.56


    Standings

    Some closely clustered scores at the top: Josedin retains the lead, while Armchair rises from fifth to second.  Comodoro breaks into the top ten, and Joelsim makes an 8 place rise.

    1   Josedin   1343
    2   Armchair   1328
    3   Bminchow   1305
    4   Otoxiep87   1183
    5   Zaka_Fan   1150
    6   Madrazo   1057
    6   RoteLaterne   1057
    8   Comodoro   1046
    9   SemirS   1043
    10   DJSprtsch   1031
    11   Tobydawq   1025
    12   Shalgo   992
    13   Salvarani   983
    14   Scrool07   923
    15   Search   867
    16   Northerner   697
    17   Del1962   635
    18   Laarsland   588
    19   Leadbelly   550
    20   LosBrolin   537
    21   Joelsim   529
    22   MellowVelo   527
    23   AmisVelo   509
    24   Hakkie2   498
    25   Vladimir   487
    26   Glomser   484
    27   NorthAmericanScum   462
    28   BlackBandit222   378
    29   JustSomeGuy   347
    30   Blues_in_the_Bottle   344
    31   Triley36   335
    32   Kazistuta   327
    33   Googolplex   284
       CollectiveWisdom   1218


    After nearly 5 weeks with no race (well, not much by this year's standards), we are back again on Wednesday for Fleche Wallonne, and probably to again rue not selecting Alaphilippe.

    And by then, you might have looked into your Giro team.
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