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2020 TdF CQ Game
« on: August 20, 2020, 15:17 »
Well, the dates are different, but everything else is pretty much the same.

You need to pick a team of 8 riders taking part in the Tour, who have a total cost on CQ current rankings (on download to be dated  23 August, presumably available from afternoon of 24th) not exceeding 4000 points.  Your success (or otherwise) is measured by the CQ points gained by the riders in the Tour.

You can find rider prices, the points scoring system, and a selector tool, here.   There is also a secondary game (the Green points classification) based on your riders' daily positions, regardless of GC and other classifications.

Send your entries in CQ format (Surname, then forename: Danish, Portuguese, Eritrean and Spanish-language names can be difficult, please help me out by looking for the rider on CQranking.com and giving their version of the name, or use the selection tool) by PM on CyclingNews or Velorooms before the race starts at 2pm (French time) on 29th August.  However, please do not try to enter before the appropriate scores are fixed on Monday evening: scores in the selection tool are only an indication until then (and will change due to Nationals and Wallonie/Emilia).

Non-starters or being over budget will be resolved by subbing in the next most expensive from the same team if possible, or next  most expensive in the field if not.  If you don't leave it to the last minute, I will be able to alert you and let you know the substitution that would happen.

Good luck, and enjoy the game.  Any questions, PM me or ask in this thread.

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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #1 on: August 20, 2020, 15:27 »

    Prices are not as low as you might imagine (or hope).  What I think CQ have done for their current rankings is to include not only all results in the last 12 months (as per usual), but also results from 2019 races that had  their 2020 equivalent rescheduled by the time it was due to start.  (Their explanation:"If on the day of the (postponed) race - or the last day of a stage race - the new date has NOT been announced, the points scored in the previous year will be subtracted in our rankings.  If the new date has been published, these points will be retained until the new race date."
    So to look at Rui Costa, as an example, his score (download of 16 August) is 500 points:
    326 from races in 2020, so nothing unusual
    80 from the World Championships (less than a year ago, 2020 version not yet held, same as any other year)
    71 from the Canadian GPs (cancelled this year, but still less than a year ago)
    23 from last year's Tour de France (more than a year ago, but it was rescheduled before the anniversary date)
    His score does not include points from the 2019 Milan-Torino (less than a year ago, but 2020 edition already held), nor his points from earlier than 22/08/19 (except the Tour)  That means that his Tirreno Adriatico and BrabantsePijl/Fleche/AmstelGR points from last year are not in his current price (the 2020 versions have not yet been held, but as of the date the 2020 versions were to take place, they had not yet been rescheduled).

    So in short, 2019 points for the Tour and the Giro (and a few other races probably) are still in there although they were more than a year ago, but riders who would probably have gained points in the spring classics or stage races like Romandie/Suisse/Catalunia/Basque Country/Tirreno-Adriatico are cheaper this year than they would be most years.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 21:23 »
    OK, the price list from CQ has been released, and is on the spreadsheet listed in the OP (this one),  and all but 4 of the teams are confirmed (and those that are not seem unlikely to change much), and the first team has been sent in. 


    So the game is now fully open: looking forward to receiving your teams (and ChrisDK will receive mine some time this evening).
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #3 on: August 25, 2020, 10:38 »
    startlist with cq values:

             
    #grenadiers INEOS GRENADIERS :cool #ag2r AG2R LA MONDIALE :cool
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley 1304   BARDET Romain 525
    AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey 172   CHEREL Mikael 89
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio 996   COSNEFROY Benoît 488
    CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 86   LATOUR Pierre 136
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal 178   NAESEN Oliver 661
    ROWE Luke 20   PETERS Nans 228
    SIVAKOV Pavel 564   VENTURINI Clément 308
    VAN BAARLE Dylan 341   VUILLERMOZ Alexis 108
      3661     2543
    #astana ASTANA PRO TEAM :cool #bbhotels B&B HOTELS - VITAL CONCEPT :cool
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 852   COQUARD Bryan 262
    FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar 103   BARTHE Cyril 66
    HOULE Hugo 87   CHEVALIER Maxime 27
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka 486   DEBUSSCHERE Jens 50
    IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 344   GAUTIER Cyril 86
    LUTSENKO Alexey 665   PACHER Quentin 126
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 342   REZA Kévin 5
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso 41   ROLLAND Pierre 144
      2920     766
    #bahrain BAHRAIN - MCLAREN :cool #bora BORA - HANSGROHE :cool
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello 485   BUCHMANN Emanuel 507
    CARUSO Damiano 330   GROSSSCHARTNER Felix 284
    COLBRELLI Sonny 648   KÄMNA Lennard 394
    HALLER Marco 135   MÜHLBERGER Gregor 375
    LANDA MEANA Mikel 981   OSS Daniel 66
    MOHORIC Matej 221   PÖSTLBERGER Lukas 73
    POELS Wout 198   SAGAN Peter 1036
    VALLS FERRI Rafael 120   SCHACHMANN Maximilian 823
      3118     3558
    #ccc CCC TEAM :cool #cofidis COFIDIS :cool
    DE MARCHI Alessandro 183   VIVIANI Elia 1017
    GESCHKE Simon 359   CONSONNI Simone 215
    HIRT Jan 115   EDET Nicolas 263
    KOCH Jonas 105   HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus 556
    SCHÄR Michael 82   LAPORTE Christophe 465
    TRENTIN Matteo 1053   MARTIN Guillaume 816
    VAN AVERMAET Greg 1205   PEREZ Anthony 131
    ZAKARIN Ilnur 324   PERICHON Pierre-Luc 34
      3426     3497
    #deceuninck DECEUNINCK - QUICK-STEP :cool #ef EF EDUCATION FIRST :cool
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian 1335   URAN URAN Rigoberto 308
    ASGREEN Kasper 478   BETTIOL Alberto 296
    BENNETT Sam 948   CARTHY Hugh 249
    CAVAGNA Rémi 407   HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres 689
    DECLERCQ Tim 126   KEUKELEIRE Jens 195
    DEVENYNS Dries 309   MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe 725
    JUNGELS Bob 162   POWLESS Neilson 255
    MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael 226   VAN GARDEREN Tejay 20
      3991     2737
    #groupama GROUPAMA - FDJ :cool #israel ISRAEL START-UP NATION :cool
    PINOT Thibaut 778   MARTIN Daniel 246
    BONNET William 20   GREIPEL André 116
    GAUDU David 346   HERMANS Ben 149
    KÜNG Stefan 724   HOFSTETTER Hugo 244
    LADAGNOUS Matthieu 30   NEILANDS Krists 336
    MADOUAS Valentin 300   NIV Guy 34
    MOLARD Rudy 338   POLITT Nils 243
    REICHENBACH Sébastien 225   VAN ASBROECK Tom 342
      2761     1710
    #lotto LOTTO SOUDAL :cool #mitchelton MITCHELTON - SCOTT :cool
    CRAS Steff 61   YATES Adam 516
    DE BUYST Jasper 390   BAUER Jack 142
    DE GENDT Thomas 294   BEWLEY Sam 20
    DEGENKOLB John 187   CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 442
    EWAN Caleb 1388   IMPEY Daryl 526
    FRISON Frederik 79   JUUL JENSEN Christopher 50
    GILBERT Philippe 510   MEZGEC Luka 179
    KLUGE Roger 91   NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 409
      3000     2284
    #movistar MOVISTAR TEAM :cool #ntt NTT PRO CYCLING TEAM :cool
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 1160   BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 106
    CATALDO Dario 162   GIBBONS Ryan 169
    ERVITI OLLO Imanol 51   GOGL Michael 100
    MAS NICOLAU Enric 390   KREUZIGER Roman 140
    OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes 181   NIZZOLO Giacomo 825
    ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin 130   POZZOVIVO Domenico 130
    SOLER GIMENEZ Marc 383   VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael 488
    VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos 30   WALSCHEID Maximilian 277
      2487     2235
    #arkea TEAM ARKÉA - SAMSIC :cool #jumbo TEAM JUMBO - VISMA :cool
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 1380   ROGLIC Primoz 2073
    ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 19   BENNETT George 700
    BARGUIL Warren 550   DUMOULIN Tom 139
    LEDANOIS Kévin 120   GESINK Robert 126
    QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney 27   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl 203
    ROSA Diego 356   KUSS Sepp 365
    RUSSO Clément 78   MARTIN Tony 165
    SWIFT Connor 75   VAN AERT Wout 956
      2605     4727
    #sunweb TEAM SUNWEB :cool #total TOTAL DIRECT ENERGIE :cool
    ANDERSEN Søren Kragh 229   CALMEJANE Lilian 241
    ARNDT Nikias 153   BONIFAZIO Niccolo 266
    BENOOT Tiesj 702   BURGAUDEAU Mathieu 17
    BOL Cees 146   COUSIN Jérôme 29
    HIRSCHI Marc 203   GRELLIER Fabien 23
    NIEUWENHUIS Joris 12   SICARD Romain 43
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip 40   SOUPE Geoffrey 40
    ROCHE Nicolas 181   TURGIS Anthony 409
      1666     1068
    #trek TREK - SEGAFREDO :cool #uae UAE TEAM EMIRATES :cool
    MOLLEMA Bauke 976   ARU Fabio 247
    EG Niklas 116   DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 220
    ELISSONDE Kenny 105   FORMOLO Davide 439
    PEDERSEN Mads 665   KRISTOFF Alexander 644
    PORTE Richie 761   LAENGEN Vegard Stake 35
    SKUJINS Toms 149   MARCATO Marco 43
    STUYVEN Jasper 791   POGACAR Tadej 1431
    THEUNS Edward 389   POLANC Jan 296
      3952     3355
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #4 on: August 26, 2020, 15:37 »
    all teams confirmed now

    edit: Cavagna in, Stybar out
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    Ledanois in for Bouet
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #6 on: August 27, 2020, 14:57 »
    A bit less than 48 hours to go, and with 13 teams in, 43 riders have been chosen, and two of them are way ahead in popularity, while 20 are unique picks.

    Four different riders costing more than twice the average 500 pts/man have been selected.

    Don't forget to send your selection in.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
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    I could not pass the chance to win my first CQ game.  ;)
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    Strange comment from the defending champion....
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #10 on: August 29, 2020, 13:34 »
    And as they roll away from Nice, here we go:

    30 teams (listed alphabetically), 62 riders selected (listed by price in their teams), 19 unique picks (indicated here by an asterisk)

    Amis Velo
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       GIBBONS Ryan   
       HERMANS Ben   
       BOL Cees   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       VAN GARDEREN Tejay   

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       VAN AERT Wout   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       MEZGEC Luka   
       BOL Cees   
       ROLLAND Pierre   

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       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       VAN GARDEREN Tejay   

    Bicycle Boy
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       POELS Wout   
       HERMANS Ben   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       ELISSONDE Kenny   
       VAN GARDEREN Tejay   
       NIEUWENHUIS Joris   

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       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BARDET Romain   
       FORMOLO Davide   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       BONIFAZIO Niccolo   *
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       ELISSONDE Kenny   

    Blues in the Bottle
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       JUNGELS Bob   *
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       NIV Guy   *
       VAN GARDEREN Tejay   
       REZA Kévin   

    Bminchow
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       SAGAN Peter   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   

    ChrisDK
       VAN AERT Wout   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       POELS Wout   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Comodoro
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BARDET Romain   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   
       BOL Cees   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   

    Del1962
       ROGLIC Primoz   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BARDET Romain   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   
       ELISSONDE Kenny   
       VAN GARDEREN Tejay   

    DJSprtsch
       SAGAN Peter   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       PEDERSEN Mads   *
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       ELISSONDE Kenny   

    Googolplex
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       BENNETT Sam   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       KUSS Sepp   
       ARU Fabio   
       BOL Cees   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   *

    Josedin
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       REICHENBACH Sébastien   *
       DE MARCHI Alessandro   *

    Just Some Guy
       POGACAR Tadej   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       MAS NICOLAU Enric   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       GIBBONS Ryan   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Koronin
       VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   *
       PINOT Thibaut   
       HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   *
       MAS NICOLAU Enric   
       KUSS Sepp   
       SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   *
       COQUARD Bryan   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Laarsland
       BENNETT Sam   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       NIZZOLO Giacomo   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       MEZGEC Luka   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       POZZOVIVO Domenico   

    LeadBelly
       MARTIN Guillaume   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       BARDET Romain   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       FORMOLO Davide   
       HERMANS Ben   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Mellow Velo
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   *
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       BOL Cees   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       POZZOVIVO Domenico   
       REZA Kévin   

    Northerner
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BARDET Romain   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       NIEUWENHUIS Joris   

    Otoxiep87
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       MEZGEC Luka   
       BOL Cees   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       CRAS Steff   *

    Pirate81
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BENNETT George   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       POZZOVIVO Domenico   
       TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   

    Ray10
       VAN AERT Wout   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BENNETT George   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       GAUDU David   *
       KWIATKOWSKI Michal   *
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Rote Laterne
       QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   *
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       DEBUSSCHERE Jens   *
       VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos   *
       REZA Kévin   

    SafeBet
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       COQUARD Bryan   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       LATOUR Pierre   
       VAN GARDEREN Tejay   
       ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew   *

    Salvarani
       POGACAR Tadej   
       MARTIN Guillaume   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       MARTIN Daniel   
       BOL Cees   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Scrool07
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       BARDET Romain   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       KUSS Sepp   
       HIRSCHI Marc   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Search
       BENNETT Sam   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       BARDET Romain   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       MOHORIC Matej   *
       HIRSCHI Marc   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Shalgo
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       BENNETT Sam   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       GIBBONS Ryan   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    TRiley36
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       PINOT Thibaut   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       URAN URAN Rigoberto   
       ARU Fabio   
       ROLLAND Pierre   
       DUMOULIN Tom   

    Yellow Knight
       BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   
       SAGAN Peter   
       MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       HERMANS Ben   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       ELISSONDE Kenny   
       VAN GARDEREN Tejay   
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #11 on: August 29, 2020, 14:00 »
    Wow MV only 1 with Landa :0
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #12 on: August 29, 2020, 14:41 »
    Rider Popularity
    When 3 managers were able to ignore the hype around Remco Evenepoel for the edition of the Emerging Riders game for which he was eligible I should have admitted to myself that 100% selection of a rider in a CQ game would never happen.  But Tom Dumoulin available here at 139 points, it seemed likely.

    No.

    28 teams (out of 30): DUMOULIN Tom
    26: PINOT Thibaut
    16: BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
    12: BUCHMANN Emanuel
    7: BARDET Romain, BOL Cees, KÄMNA Lennard, URAN URAN Rigoberto, VAN GARDEREN Tejay
    (The Collective Wisdom team will be the 4 riders on a dozen or more teams, plus 80% of the total of the five men selected seven times, it is quite a long way under budget at 3842)
    6: LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel, ROLLAND Pierre
    5: COQUARD Bryan, ELISSONDE Kenny
    4: BENNETT Sam, DE GENDT Thomas, HERMANS Ben, MARTIN Daniel, MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe, ROGLIC Primoz
    3: GIBBONS Ryan, KUSS Sepp, LATOUR Pierre, MEZGEC Luka, NIZZOLO Giacomo, POZZOVIVO Domenico, REZA Kévin, SAGAN Peter, SIVAKOV Pavel, VAN AERT Wout
    2: ALAPHILIPPE Julian, ARU Fabio, BENNETT George, BOASSON HAGEN Edvald, CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban, DEGENKOLB John, FORMOLO Davide, HIRSCHI Marc, MARTIN Guillaume, MAS NICOLAU Enric, NIEUWENHUIS Joris, POELS Wout, POGACAR Tadej, TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso

    Maybe ArchieBoy and Josedin will let us know why they thought Pierre Rolland and Alessandro De Marchi respectively were likely to score more than Dumoulin.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #13 on: August 29, 2020, 15:22 »
    Popularity ranking

    1=   Comodoro   100
    1=   Triley36   100
    3=   Armchair_Cyclist   99
    3=   Otoxiep87   99
    5=   Mellow_Velo   96
    5=   Pirate81   96
    7   Northerner   95
    8=   BikeRacer33   92
    8=   Shalgo   92
    10   AmisVelo   91
    11   Bminchow   89
    12   SafeBet   88
    13   Googolplex   87
    14   Leadbelly   84
    15=   Del1962   83
    15=   Rote_Laterne   83
    15=   Scrool07   83
    18   JustSomeGuy   82
    19   Search   81
    20   Ray10   80
    21=   DJSprtsch   79
    21=   Salvarani   79
    21=   Yellow_Knight   79
    24   Laarsland   76
    25   BicycleBoy   68
    26   Koronin   67
    27   BluesInTheBottle   65
    28   ArchieBoy   64
    29   Josedin   58
    30   ChrisDK   53
       Collective_Wisdom   110


    Main picks 
    The average budget per rider is 500pts: the riders who cost 1.5x that or more are:

    Roglic and Bernal:   Blues in the Bottle,   Bicycle Boy
    Roglic and Pinot:   Amis Velo,   Del1962
                   
                   
    Pogacar with G Martin and Pinot:   Salvarani
    Pogacar and Pinot:   Just Some Guy         
                   
    Quintana with Bernal   and Pinot:   Rote Laterne
                   
    Alaphilippe with Bernal   and Pinot:   SafeBet
    Alaphilippe and Pinot:   Josedin
                   
    Bernal with Sagan:   Yellow Knight
    Bernal with Sagan and Pinot:   Bminchow
    Bernal with Landa and Pinot:   Mellow Velo
    Bernal with S Bennett and Pinot:   Googolplex,   Shalgo
    Bernal with Lopez and Pinot:   Armchair Cyclist,   Northerner,   Otoxiep
    Bernal and Pinot:   BikeRacer33,   Comodoro,   Pirate81,   TRiley37
                   
    Valverde and Pinot:   Koronin
                   
    Sagan with Nizzolo and Pinot:   DJSprtsch
                   
    Van Aert   and Nizzolo:   ChrisDK
    Van Aert   and Pinot:   ArchieBoy,   Ray 10   
                   
    S Bennett with Lopez and Pinot:   Search   
                   
    Lopez and Pinot:   Scrool07   
                   
    G Martin and Pinot:   Leadbelly   

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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #14 on: August 29, 2020, 17:54 »
    A couple more things I should add before I start getting on with today's stage result:

    If anything unscheduled happens that would affect scoring, I will avoid ever having to make a decision by following the point allocation of CQRankings.com.

    I might not post the link to the spreadsheet in every evening's updates, but it should be synchronised on Google Drive, and be available here throughout.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #15 on: August 29, 2020, 19:10 »
    Wow MV only 1 with Landa :0

    He went OK on the big hills in the Dauphine, just lost time in that final frenetic stage.
    There a lot of big climbs in this race and he's solo leader.
    That was my thinking.
    Out of interest, this was my first team selected.

    ROGLIC Primoz         
    PINOT Thibaut   
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   
    ZAKARIN  Ilnur
    BOL  Cees   
    DUMOULIN Tom       
    ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew   
    REZA Kévin     

    Be interesting to see which lot do best.             


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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #16 on: August 29, 2020, 21:38 »
    Stage 1

    Green points

    I'm not sure that we have any new managers this time around, but in case we have, or anyone has forgotten, these are the stage points for the first 10 finishers in each stage, distributed 80, 50, 35, 25, 15, 10, 5, 3, 2, 1.


    1   DJSprtsch   70 (Pedersen, Sagan and Nizzolo)
    2   Googolplex   60 (Bol and Bennett)
    3=   AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, Comodoro, Mellow_Velo, Otoxiep87, Salvarani   35 (Bol)
    9   Laarsland   30 (Bennett and Nizzolo)
    10=   Search, Shalgo,    25 (Bennett)
    12=   Bminchow, Yellow_Knight   15 (Sagan)
    14   ChrisDK   5 (Nizzolo)
    15   BluesInTheBottle, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Koronin, SafeBet   3 (Coquard)
    20=   Everyone else   0
       Collective_Wisdom   28

    Main game

    There are far more points available than the stage points of the green competition,  Most importantly, the GC rankings, but also 20 points for wearing the yellow jersey (apart from after stage 21) and points for the KoM and Sprints classifications.  So had anyone picked Kristoff, he would give them 80 for today's stage, 20 for being leader (these 100 points would be certain, whereas those that follow can, and for Kristoff surely will, reduce) 600 for top place in GC, and 80 for top in the points classification)

    These rankings are therefore about as secure as Kristoff's grasp on the race lead, but we have to start somewhere.

    1   DJSprtsch   1233
    2   Googolplex   939
    3   Laarsland   823
    4   ArchieBoy   691
    5   Otoxiep87   669
    6   Salvarani   641
    7   AmisVelo   596
    8   Comodoro   584
    9   Mellow_Velo   579
    10   Search   518
    11   Shalgo   515
    12   Yellow_Knight   511
    13   Bminchow   494
    14   JustSomeGuy   435
    15   ChrisDK   424
    16   BluesInTheBottle   374
    17   Koronin   366
    18   SafeBet   362
    19   Josedin   348
    20   BikeRacer33   213
    21   BicycleBoy   209
    22   Leadbelly   207
    23   Northerner   197
    24   Scrool07   195
    25   Ray10   187
    26   Del1962   180
    27   Rote_Laterne   178
    28   Pirate81   174
    28   Triley36   174
    30   Armchair_Cyclist   154
       Collective_Wisdom   498

    And Shalgo and I have both lost a rider already.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #17 on: August 30, 2020, 18:31 »
    Stage 2

    Green points

    Today

    1=   Josedin, SafeBet   80 (Alaphilippe)
    3=   Scrool07, Search   50 (Hirschi)
    5=   JustSomeGuy, Salvarani   3 (Pogacar)
    No-one else scored.  A change in the minor classification after discussion before the Vuelta last year means that the two Alaphilippe teams don't get the 20 points for leading the GC table (in this classification, they still get them in the main game).

    Standings
    SafeBet and Josedin don't only share Alaphilippe, but also Coquard, so they had the same points yesterday and are still not separated in this competition.
    1=   Josedin   83
    1=   SafeBet   83
    3   Search   75
    4   DJSprtsch   70
    5   Googolplex   60
    6   Scrool07   50
    7   Salvarani   38
    8=   AmisVelo   35
    8=   ArchieBoy   35
    8=   Comodoro   35
    8=   Mellow_Velo   35
    8=   Otoxiep87   35

    Main game

    Most of the points are projected points: in previous years I have described that as 'if the Tour were to finish here', but in 2020 that seems unsubtle.  But because they are projections they become closer to reality the nearer we get to the end of the race, and scores can go down as well as up (So had anyone picked Kristoff, he had 780 points yesterday (80 for stage win, 20 Yellow jersey points, 600 for top of GC and 80 for top of green jersey), today he has 200 (he can't lose the stage winner and yellow jersey wearer points, even if he doesn't finish the Tour, but his 600 race leader points have dropped to 20 for being 129th on GC, and he still has the lead in the sprints classification, but will probably lose some placings in that over the next three weeks) and so his points difference on the day is -580.  And if individual riders can get negative daily scores, so can a team.


    The main points changes, as they affect riders selected for our teams:
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   695   2   teams
    HIRSCHI Marc   416   2   teams
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   235   2   teams
    POGACAR Tadej   205   2   teams
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   174   16   teams
    FORMOLO Davide   171   2   teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   132   28   teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   108   4   teams
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   100   1   team
    MARTIN Guillaume   90   2   teams
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   80   12   teams
    ---
    COQUARD Bryan   -183   5   teams
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   -210   3   teams
    SAGAN Peter   -255   3   teams
    BENNETT Sam   -300   4   teams
    BOL Cees   -370   7   teams
    PEDERSEN Mads   -470   1   team

    Scores will probably not fluctuate this violently most days:
    1   SafeBet   909 (Alaphilippe, Bernal, Dumoulin, but Coquard)
    2   Scrool07   636(Hirschi and Dumoulin)
    3   Josedin   617 (Alaphilippe, but Coquard: A rare Dumoulin-less team)
    4   BikeRacer33   588 (Bernal, Formolo and Dumoulin)
    5   Leadbelly   543
    6   Triley36   501
    7   Rote_Laterne   464
    8   BicycleBoy   432
    8   Pirate81   432
    10   Northerner   429
    11   Armchair_Cyclist   399
    12   Search   388
    13   Del1962   351
    14   Comodoro   321
    15   JustSomeGuy   303
    16   Ray10   252
    17   BluesInTheBottle   231
    18   Bminchow   181
    19   Yellow_Knight   160
    20   ChrisDK   136
    21   Salvarani   125
    22   Koronin   123
    23   Shalgo   102
    24   Mellow_Velo   76
    25   Otoxiep87   -20
    26   AmisVelo   -38
    27   ArchieBoy   -333
    28   Googolplex   -334
    28   Laarsland   -334
    30   DJSprtsch   -655
       Collective_Wisdom   182

    Standings

    No real correspondence to yesterday's table: the top two have both risen 17 places and Scrool 19.
    That looks like an enormous, as if unsurmountable, lead already: how realistic it is, like the GC tables in last year's tour, depends on the durability of Alaphilippe's tenure of yellow.
    1   SafeBet   1271
    2   Josedin   965
    3   Search   906
    4   Comodoro   905
    5   Scrool07   831
    6   BikeRacer33   801
    7   Salvarani   766
    8   Leadbelly   750
    9   JustSomeGuy   738
    10   Bminchow   675
    10   Triley36   675
    12   Yellow_Knight   671
    13   Mellow_Velo   655
    14   Otoxiep87   649
    15   Rote_Laterne   642
    16   BicycleBoy   641
    17   Northerner   626
    18   Shalgo   617
    19   Pirate81   606
    20   BluesInTheBottle   605
    20   Googolplex   605
    22   DJSprtsch   578
    23   ChrisDK   560
    24   AmisVelo   558
    25   Armchair_Cyclist   553
    26   Del1962   531
    27   Koronin   489
    27   Laarsland   489
    29   Ray10   439
    30   ArchieBoy   358
       Collective_Wisdom   680


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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #18 on: August 31, 2020, 19:38 »
    Stage 3

    I waited a while in case Sam Bennett was relegated, but I'm assuming that if it hasn't been announced by now, it won't happen.

    Green points

    Today

    1   Laarsland   85 (Bennett and Nizzolo)
    2   Googolplex   55 (Bennett and Bol)
    3=   DJSprtsch (Nizzolo and Sagan), Search, Shalgo (Bennett) 50
    6   ChrisDK   35
    7   Bminchow, Yellow_Knight   15
    9=   AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, Comodoro, Mellow_Velo, Otoxiep87, Salvarani   5
    15=   BluesInTheBottle, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Koronin, SafeBet   2
    20   BikeRacer33   1
    21   The rest   0

    Standings

    1   Search   125 (+2)
    2   DJSprtsch   120 (+2)
    3=   Googolplex   115 (+2)
    3=   Laarsland   115 (+10)
    5=   Josedin   85 (-4)
    5=   SafeBet   85 (-4)
    7   Shalgo   75 (+7)
    8   Scrool07   50
    9   Salvarani   43
    10=   AmisVelo   40
    10=   ArchieBoy   40
    10=   ChrisDK   40
    10=   Comodoro   40
    10=   Mellow_Velo   40
    10=   Otoxiep87   40


    Main Game

    On sprint or breakaway stages, there are often few changes other than those in the Green classification, but while so many riders are on the same time, cumulative positions cause some GC changes.

    DUMOULIN Tom   70   28   teams
    MARTIN Guillaume   70   2   
    FORMOLO Davide   60   2   
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   60   16   
    BENNETT Sam   60   4   
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   45   3   
    SAGAN Peter   45   3
    POGACAR Tadej   30   2   
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   30   1
    BARDET Romain   21   7
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   20   1
    ---
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   -15   1
    LATOUR Pierre   -16   3
    ELISSONDE Kenny   -16   5
    ROGLIC Primoz   -40   4
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -100   2

    Today
    1   Leadbelly   221  (Dumoulin, Martin, Formolo, Bardet)
    2   Googolplex   208 (Dumoulin, Bernal, Bennett)
    3   BikeRacer33   202   (Dumoulin, Bernal, Bennett and Bardet, but Elissonde)
    4   Laarsland   182
    5   Shalgo   178
    6   Salvarani   174
    7   Northerner   163
    8   Search   160
    9   Bminchow   157
    10   Yellow_Knight   155
    11   Otoxiep87   154
    12   Mellow_Velo   151
    13   Rote_Laterne   148
    14   Armchair_Cyclist   144
    15   Pirate81   132
    15   SafeBet   132
    17   DJSprtsch   123
    18   Triley36   114
    19   Scrool07   112
    20   BluesInTheBottle   95
    20   Koronin   95
    22   JustSomeGuy   93
    23   BicycleBoy   74
    24   Comodoro   59
    25   Ray10   46
    26   Del1962   41
    27   AmisVelo   38
    28   Josedin   10
    29   ChrisDK   7
    30   ArchieBoy   -10
       Collective_Wisdom   147

    Standings

    SafeBet still has that huge lead, but Search moves up one place, and Bikeracer three.  Leadbelly (also 3 places) and Bminchow are also heading the right way within the top ten, and Googolplex has moved up 8.

    1   SafeBet   1403
    2   Search   1066
    3   BikeRacer33   1003
    4   Josedin   975
    5   Leadbelly   971
    6   Comodoro   964
    7   Scrool07   943
    8   Salvarani   940
    9   Bminchow   832
    10   JustSomeGuy   831
    11   Yellow_Knight   826
    12   Googolplex   813
    13   Mellow_Velo   806
    14   Otoxiep87   803
    15   Shalgo   795
    16   Rote_Laterne   790
    17   Northerner   789
    17   Triley36   789
    19   Pirate81   738
    20   BicycleBoy   715
    21   DJSprtsch   701
    22   BluesInTheBottle   700
    23   Armchair_Cyclist   697
    24   Laarsland   671
    25   AmisVelo   596
    26   Koronin   584
    27   Del1962   572
    28   ChrisDK   567
    29   Ray10   485
    30   ArchieBoy   348
       Collective_Wisdom   827


    I guess we will find out tomorrow whether Alaphippe (and therefore SafeBet and Josedin) is a true yellow jersey contender, or just a holder in the early stages.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #19 on: August 31, 2020, 22:30 »
    I don't have Bennett on my team
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #20 on: September 01, 2020, 11:32 »
    I don't have Bennett on my team
    My habit of copying and editing sentences, because I am of an age not to have grown up at a keyboard, has been unveiled. Sorry for the error
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #21 on: September 01, 2020, 19:15 »
    Stage 4 First Mountain-ish Top Finish

    Green points

    Today
    If you get 2nd and 3rd, you can beat a team that has the stage winner

    1   Salvarani   88 (Pogacar, Martin and Pinot)
    2=   BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle   85 (Roglic and Pogacar)
    4   AmisVelo, Del1962   83 (Roglic and Pinot)
    6   JustSomeGuy   53 (Pogacar and Pinot)
    7   Leadbelly   38
    8   Rote_Laterne   33
    9   SafeBet   23
    10=   Armchair_Cyclist, Josedin, Northerner, Otoxiep87   18
    14=   Laarsland, Scrool07, Search   13
    17   Mellow_Velo   10
    18=   BikeRacer33, Bminchow, Comodoro, Googolplex, Pirate81, Shalgo, Triley36   8
    25   Yellow_Knight   5
    26=   ArchieBoy, DJSprtsch, Koronin, Ray10   3
    30   ChrisDK   0

    Standings

    To celebrate everyone getting off the mark, I'll post that whole table: Salvarani moved up 7 places to second, and Blues in the Bottle, Bicycle Boy and Del all move 10 places or more.

    1   Search   138
    2   Salvarani   131
    3   Laarsland   128
    4   AmisVelo   123
    4   DJSprtsch   123
    4   Googolplex   123
    7   SafeBet   108
    8   Josedin   103
    9   BluesInTheBottle   90
    10   BicycleBoy   85
    11   Del1962   83
    11   Shalgo   83
    13   Scrool07   63
    14   JustSomeGuy   61
    15   Otoxiep87   58
    16   Mellow_Velo   50
    17   Comodoro   48
    18   ArchieBoy   43
    19   ChrisDK   40
    20   Bminchow   38
    20   Leadbelly   38
    22   Yellow_Knight   35
    23   Rote_Laterne   33
    24   Armchair_Cyclist   18
    24   Northerner   18
    26   BikeRacer33   9
    27   Koronin   8
    27   Pirate81   8
    27   Triley36   8
    30   Ray10   3
       Collective_Wisdom   8

    Main Game

    The less obvious points are mainly gained by riders overtaking those who fell out of the 17 second group.

    ROGLIC Primoz   395   4 teams
    MARTIN Guillaume   155   2
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   103   6
    POGACAR Tadej   77   2
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   66   1
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   65   1
    PINOT Thibaut   64   26
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   49   7
    BARDET Romain   42   7
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   40   2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   38   2
    ---
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   -40   1
    FORMOLO Davide   -231   2
    HIRSCHI Marc   -318   2


    Today

    1   Del1962   507 (Roglic, Pinot, Bardet)
    2   AmisVelo   451 (Roglic, Pinot)
    3   BicycleBoy   406
    4   BluesInTheBottle   398
    5   Salvarani   296
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   221
    7   Northerner   216
    8   Rote_Laterne   184
    9   Laarsland   180
    10   Otoxiep87   164
    11   JustSomeGuy   150
    12   Comodoro   143
    13   Mellow_Velo   136
    14   Shalgo   135
    15   DJSprtsch   125
    16   Triley36   117
    17   Bminchow   102
    18   Googolplex   101
    18   Josedin   101
    20   SafeBet   88
    21   Koronin   83
    22   Pirate81   72
    23   ArchieBoy   62
    24   Ray10   56
    25   ChrisDK   49
    26   Leadbelly   24
    27   Yellow_Knight   9
    28   Search   -45
    29   Scrool07   -89
    30   BikeRacer33   -114
       Collective_Wisdom   134

    Standings

    That might not have looked like a very exciting stage, but it has caused some huge changes of position.  SafeBet remains top (and I suspect will do for as long as Alaphilippe is in yellow) but Salvarani has risen 6 places to 2nd, while Bicycle Boy, Blues in the Bottle and Amis Velo have each jumped 17 places, and Del 21, to get into the top ten.

    1   SafeBet   1491
    2   Salvarani   1236
    3   BicycleBoy   1121
    4   Comodoro   1107
    5   BluesInTheBottle   1098
    6   Del1962   1079
    7   Josedin   1076
    8   AmisVelo   1047
    9   Search   1021
    10   Northerner   1005
    11   Leadbelly   995
    12   JustSomeGuy   981
    13   Rote_Laterne   974
    14   Otoxiep87   967
    15   Mellow_Velo   942
    16   Bminchow   934
    17   Shalgo   930
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   918
    19   Googolplex   914
    20   Triley36   906
    21   BikeRacer33   889
    22   Scrool07   854
    23   Laarsland   851
    24   Yellow_Knight   835
    25   DJSprtsch   826
    26   Pirate81   810
    27   Koronin   667
    28   ChrisDK   616
    29   Ray10   541
    30   ArchieBoy   410
       Collective_Wisdom   961

    I wouldn't expect much change tomorrow.


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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #22 on: September 02, 2020, 23:39 »
    Stage 5  Far more to talk about half an hour after it finished than during the stage.

    Green points

    Today

    1   ArchieBoy   140 (Van Aert, Bol and Mezgec)
    2   Googolplex   85 (Bol and Bennett)
    3=   ChrisDK, Ray10   80 (Van Aert)
    5   Otoxiep87   60 (Bol and Mazgec)
    6=   AmisVelo, Comodoro, Mellow_Velo, Salvarani   50 (Bol)
    10   Laarsland   45
    11=   Search, Shalgo   35
    13=   Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Yellow_Knight   25
    16=   BluesInTheBottle, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Koronin, SafeBet   5
    21=   The rest   0
       Collective_Wisdom   40

    Standings

    The huge daily score didn't put Archie top, but he does rise 16 places to second, behing Googolplex who rises from 4th.

    1   Googolplex   208
    2   ArchieBoy   183
    3   Salvarani   181
    4   AmisVelo   173
    4   Laarsland   173
    4   Search   173
    7   DJSprtsch   148
    8   ChrisDK   120
    9   Otoxiep87   118
    9   Shalgo   118

    Main Game

    That bottle cost the Alaphilippe teams (Safebet and Josedin) 526 points each, and was the main reason for point changes other than the sprint.  The Bennett teams get a boost from him moving into green.

    VAN AERT Wout   86   3 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   70   4
    BENNETT Sam   65   4
    POGACAR Tadej   58   2
    BOL Cees   54   7
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   50   1
    BARDET Romain   30   7
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   30   16
    DUMOULIN Tom   30   28
    MARTIN Guillaume   30   2
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   20   6
    ---
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   -12   3
    KUSS Sepp   -18   3
    ELISSONDE Kenny   -20   5
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   -20   1
    HIRSCHI Marc   -20   2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -510   2

    Today

    1   Googolplex   187 (Bennett, Bol, Bernal, Dumoulin)
    2   Salvarani   186 (Pogacar, Bol, Bernal, Martin)
    3   ArchieBoy   174 (Van Aert, Bol)
    4   AmisVelo   164 (Roglic, Col, Dumoulin)
    5   Comodoro   154
    5   Otoxiep87   154
    7   Shalgo   149
    8   Mellow_Velo   146
    9   Search   145
    10   BluesInTheBottle   142
    11   Rote_Laterne   130
    12   Laarsland   127
    13   Northerner   124
    14   Ray10   121
    15   Del1962   120
    16   ChrisDK   114
    17   BicycleBoy   110
    17   JustSomeGuy   110
    19   Leadbelly   104
    20   Armchair_Cyclist   100
    20   Triley36   100
    22   BikeRacer33   84
    23   Pirate81   76
    24   Bminchow   66
    25   Scrool07   62
    26   Yellow_Knight   45
    27   Koronin   28
    28   DJSprtsch   17
    29   SafeBet   -436
    30   Josedin   -492
       Collective_Wisdom   145

    Standings

    Remember a few days ago, when Safebet's lead looked insurmountable?  Salvarani moves up one to the top, while Bicycle Boy also falls off the podium, making space for Comodoro and BitB.  Otoxiep87 and Rote Laterne move into the top ten, and Googolplex has the biggest rise.

    1   Salvarani   1422
    2   Comodoro   1261
    3   BluesInTheBottle   1240
    4   BicycleBoy   1231
    5   AmisVelo   1211
    6   Del1962   1199
    7   Search   1166
    8   Northerner   1129
    9   Otoxiep87   1121
    10   Rote_Laterne   1104
    11   Googolplex   1101
    12   Leadbelly   1099
    13   JustSomeGuy   1091
    14   Mellow_Velo   1088
    15   Shalgo   1079
    16   SafeBet   1055
    17   Armchair_Cyclist   1018
    18   Triley36   1006
    19   Bminchow   1000
    20   Laarsland   978
    21   BikeRacer33   973
    22   Scrool07   916
    23   Pirate81   886
    24   Yellow_Knight   880
    25   DJSprtsch   843
    26   ChrisDK   730
    27   Koronin   695
    28   Ray10   662
    29   ArchieBoy   584
    29   Josedin   584
       Collective_Wisdom   1106

    And tomorrow should bee more of a shakedown, and further thinning out of the 17 13 second group.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #23 on: September 03, 2020, 19:53 »
    Stage 6 A breakaway, but no GC action on MTF

    Green points

    Today

    1   Koronin   50 (Herrada)
    2   SafeBet   18 (Alaphilippe and Bernal)
    3   Josedin   15 (Alaphilippe)
    4   Ray10   5 (Kwiatkowski)
    5   Fifteen other teams with Bernal   3
    20   Others   0
       Collective_Wisdom   3

    Standings

    The two Alaphilippe teams move up 3 places each, the others in the top ten scored 0 or 3.

    1   Googolplex   211
    2   ArchieBoy   183
    3   Salvarani   181
    4   AmisVelo   173
    4   Laarsland   173
    4   Search   173
    7   DJSprtsch   148
    8   SafeBet   131
    9   Josedin   123
    10   Otoxiep87   121
    10   Shalgo   121

    Main Game

    Shuffling of position in the 13 second group will carry on happening, and having short term effects on our scores, for as long as those riders keep arriving as part of a large-ish group.

    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   74   1 team
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   30   2
    BARDET Romain   20   7
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   19   2
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   11   1
    PINOT Thibaut   10   26
    ---
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   -10   1
    ROGLIC Primoz   -10   4
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -20   6
    POGACAR Tadej   -20   2
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   -21   1
    HIRSCHI Marc   -23   2
    LATOUR Pierre   -27   3
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -31   1
    FORMOLO Davide   -32   2

    Today

    A range of 107 from top score to bottom is very small in thes games.

    1   Koronin   67  (Herrada and Pinot, but Sanchez)
    2   Comodoro   61 (Chaves, Bardet and Pinot)
    3   Josedin   34 (Alaphilippe and Pinot)
    4   Del1962   28
    5   ChrisDK   27
    6   DJSprtsch   19
    6   Ray10   19
    8   Googolplex   17
    8   Triley36   17
    10   Northerner   15
    10   Pirate81   15
    10   Shalgo   15
    10   Yellow_Knight   15
    14   BikeRacer33   9
    15   ArchieBoy   8
    16   SafeBet   5
    17   BicycleBoy   1
    18   Mellow_Velo   -1
    19   AmisVelo   -2
    20   Scrool07   -5
    21   Armchair_Cyclist   -7
    21   BluesInTheBottle   -7
    23   Otoxiep87   -9
    24   JustSomeGuy   -10
    25   Leadbelly   -11
    26   Search   -13
    27   Bminchow   -14
    28   Rote_Laterne   -18
    29   Salvarani   -19
    30   Laarsland   -40
       Collective_Wisdom   27

    Standings

    The highest change of position is Del overtaking Amis Velo for 5th, Googolplex enters the top ten, and Shalgo managed to move up 4, but exactly half the teams have not changed position at all.  It was that sort of a day.

    1   Salvarani   1403
    2   Comodoro   1322
    3   BluesInTheBottle   1233
    4   BicycleBoy   1232
    5   Del1962   1227
    6   AmisVelo   1209
    7   Search   1153
    8   Northerner   1144
    9   Googolplex   1118
    10   Otoxiep87   1112
    11   Shalgo   1094
    12   Leadbelly   1088
    13   Mellow_Velo   1087
    14   Rote_Laterne   1086
    15   JustSomeGuy   1081
    16   SafeBet   1060
    17   Triley36   1023
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   1011
    19   Bminchow   986
    20   BikeRacer33   982
    21   Laarsland   938
    22   Scrool07   911
    23   Pirate81   901
    24   Yellow_Knight   895
    25   DJSprtsch   862
    26   Koronin   762
    27   ChrisDK   757
    28   Ray10   681
    29   Josedin   618
    30   ArchieBoy   592
       Collective_Wisdom   1133

    And I'm not sure that tomorrow will see much more change.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #24 on: September 04, 2020, 20:00 »
    Stage 7
     
    And I'm not sure that tomorrow will see much more change.
    Shows what I know, important splits from the start, and echelons.

    Green points

    Today

    1   ArchieBoy, ChrisDK, Ray10   80 (Van Aert)
    4   Comodoro   53 (Boasson Hagen and Bernal)
    5   Del1962   50 (Boasson Hagen)
    6=   BluesInTheBottle, SafeBet   38 (Coquard and Bernal)
    8   Koronin   36 (Coquard and Valverde)
    9=   Josedin, JustSomeGuy   35 (Coquard)
    11=   Bernalistas   3
    24=   the rest   0
       Collective_Wisdom   3

    Standings

    The top two swap places, ChrisDK jumps from 12th to 3rd

    1   ArchieBoy   263
    2   Googolplex   214
    3   ChrisDK   200
    4   Salvarani   181
    5=   AmisVelo   173
    5=   Laarsland   173
    5=   Search   173
    8   SafeBet   169
    9   Ray10   168
    10   Josedin   158

    Main Game

    Bora and early gradients brought about points classification change, then Ineos and late winds laid into the GC.

    VAN AERT Wout   116   3 teams
    MARTIN Guillaume   60   2
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   60   1
    BARDET Romain   50   7
    BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   50   2
    COQUARD Bryan   50   5
    PINOT Thibaut   50   26
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   50   7
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   46   2
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   42   12
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   40   6
    ---
    BENNETT Sam   -30   4
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   -43   1
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -142   2
    POGACAR Tadej   -286   2

    Today

    1   Ray10   251 (Van Aert, Pinot, Buchmann)
    2   Leadbelly   236 (Martin, Pinot, Bardet, Buchmann)
    3   Rote_Laterne   223 (Quintana, Pinot, Uran)
    4   SafeBet   209 (Pinot, Coquard, Alaphilippe)
    5   Triley36   207
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   203
    6   Northerner   203
    8   Koronin   199
    9   Bminchow   193
    9   Otoxiep87   193
    11   Josedin   192
    12   Search   190
    13   ArchieBoy   185
    14   Del1962   161
    15   Scrool07   159
    16   BikeRacer33   148
    17   DJSprtsch   139
    18   Pirate81   136
    19   Shalgo   133
    20   AmisVelo   120
    21   BluesInTheBottle   113
    22   Comodoro   111
    23   Yellow_Knight   95
    24   Googolplex   93
    25   Mellow_Velo   83
    26   Laarsland   61
    27   BicycleBoy   44
    28   ChrisDK   -19
    29   JustSomeGuy   -76
    30   Salvarani   -148
       Collective_Wisdom   233


    Standings

    After Alaphilippe's bottle, Pogacar's puncture becomes the second cause of a dramatic fall from top spot.  It is, we discover today, possible for the same team to make a huge jump to 3rd place in the green competition and drop several places to last on the same day.

    Comodoro moves into pole from second, and Del rises from 5th to 2nd.  Northerner completes the podium with a 5 place rise, matched by one entry to the top ten, Leadbelly, and beaten by the other one, Rote Laterne.

    1   Comodoro   1433
    2   Del1962   1388
    3   Northerner   1347
    4   BluesInTheBottle   1346
    5   Search   1343
    6   AmisVelo   1329
    7   Leadbelly   1324
    8   Rote_Laterne   1309
    9   Otoxiep87   1305
    10   BicycleBoy   1276
    11   SafeBet   1269
    12   Salvarani   1255
    13   Triley36   1230
    14   Shalgo   1227
    15   Armchair_Cyclist   1214
    16   Googolplex   1211
    17   Bminchow   1179
    18   Mellow_Velo   1170
    19   BikeRacer33   1130
    20   Scrool07   1070
    21   Pirate81   1037
    22   JustSomeGuy   1005
    23   DJSprtsch   1001
    24   Laarsland   999
    25   Yellow_Knight   990
    26   Koronin   961
    27   Ray10   932
    28   Josedin   810
    29   ArchieBoy   777
    30   ChrisDK   738
       Collective_Wisdom   1367

    I'm going to stop guessing how exciting, or influential in the game, the next stage will be.

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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #25 on: September 05, 2020, 22:07 »
    Stage 8 First of the Pyrenean double

    Green points

    Today

    The breakaway members did not feature high in the popular selections

    1=   Rote_Laterne   35 (Verona)
    2=   Leadbelly   11 (Hermans and Bardet)
    3=   AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, Yellow_Knight   10 (Hermans)
    6=   JustSomeGuy, Salvarani   2 (Pogacar)
    8=   BikeRacer33, Comodoro, Del1962, Northerner, Scrool07, Search   1 (Bardet)
    14   The rest   0
       Collective_Wisdom   1

    Standings

    Amis Velo moving from joint 5th to joint 4th is the only progress in this group.

    1   ArchieBoy   263
    2   Googolplex   214
    3   ChrisDK   200
    4   AmisVelo   183
    4   Salvarani   183
    6   Search   174
    7   Laarsland   173
    8   SafeBet   169
    9   Ray10   168
    10   Josedin   158


    Main game

    All but 2 teams (ArchieBoy and Josedin) had Dumoulin, who is at least still pretty good for his price, though apparently no longer the contender he was.
    All but 4 teams (Bicycle Boy, Blues in the Bottle, ChrisDK and Yellow Knight) have Pinot, who is not going to make a good return on his price.

    BARDET Romain   91   7 teams
    POGACAR Tadej   83   2
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   53   1
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   40   2
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   40   7
    VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos   40   1
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   30   6
    ELISSONDE Kenny   23   5
    ---
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   -20   3
    ROGLIC Primoz   -24   4
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   -30   16
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -33   1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -83   2
    PINOT Thibaut   -131   26
    DUMOULIN Tom   -190   28


    None of us come out of this well:
    1   ArchieBoy   -118 (Only Pinot as a disaster)
    2   Search   -160 (Bardet, Uran and Lopez, but Pinot and Dumoulin)
    3   Yellow_Knight   -177(Elissonde but Bernal and Dumoulin)
    4   JustSomeGuy   -188
    5   ChrisDK   -205
    6   Scrool07   -206
    7   Josedin   -207
    8   BicycleBoy   -211
    9   Leadbelly   -226
    9   Northerner   -226
    11   Del1962   -231
    12   Salvarani   -235
    13   BluesInTheBottle   -244
    13   Comodoro   -244
    15   BikeRacer33   -252
    16   Rote_Laterne   -271
    17   DJSprtsch   -274
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   -281
    19   Mellow_Velo   -294
    20   Triley36   -299
    21   Shalgo   -307
    22   Bminchow   -308
    23   Otoxiep87   -311
    24   Ray10   -312
    25   Laarsland   -317
    26   AmisVelo   -325
    27   Pirate81   -340
    28   Koronin   -342
    29   Googolplex   -359
    30   SafeBet   -434
       Collective_Wisdom   -236


    Standings

    How has it taken me this many years to realise that if I change the order of the columns in my spreadsheet, I can show the daily change of positions dead easily?

    1   Comodoro   1189   0
    2   Search   1183   3
    3   Del1962   1157   -1
    4   Northerner   1121   -1
    5   BluesInTheBottle   1102   -1
    6   Leadbelly   1098   1
    7   BicycleBoy   1065   3
    8   Rote_Laterne   1038   0
    9   Salvarani   1020   3
    10   AmisVelo   1004   -4
    11   Otoxiep87   994   -2
    12   Armchair_Cyclist   933   3
    13   Triley36   931   0
    14   Shalgo   920   0
    15   BikeRacer33   878   4
    16   Mellow_Velo   876   2
    17   Bminchow   871   0
    18   Scrool07   864   2
    19   Googolplex   852   -3
    20   SafeBet   835   -9
    21   JustSomeGuy   817   1
    22   Yellow_Knight   813   3
    23   DJSprtsch   727   0
    24   Pirate81   697   -3
    25   Laarsland   682   -1
    26   ArchieBoy   659   3
    27   Ray10   620   0
    28   Koronin   619   -2
    29   Josedin   603   -1
    30   ChrisDK   533   0
       Collective_Wisdom   1131   


    It would be nice if at least some of us can improve our score tomorrow.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #26 on: September 06, 2020, 21:10 »
    Oh,Hirschi so close to the victory today.Still he is the one saving my TDF for now
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #27 on: September 07, 2020, 00:09 »
    Stage 9 Second Pyrenean day, third great day's racing in a row.

    Green points

    Today

    So nearly a heroic breakaway victory, but the big names, and some popular picks, feature.

    1   Salvarani   85  (Pogacar and Martin)
    2   JustSomeGuy   80 (Pogacar)
    3=   BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle   75 (Roglic and Bernal)
    5   Del1962   53 (Roglic and Bardet)
    6   AmisVelo   50 (Roglic)
    7   Mellow_Velo   40 (Bernal and Landa)
    8   Search   39  (Hirschi, Bardet, Uran)
    9   Scrool07   38 (Hirschi, Bardet)
    10=   BikeRacer33, Comodoro, Northerner   28 (Bernal, Bardet)
    13=   Armchair_Cyclist, Bminchow, Rote_Laterne, Shalgo, Triley36   26 (Bernal, Uran)
    18=   Googolplex, Otoxiep87, Pirate81, SafeBet, Yellow_Knight   25 (Bernal)
    23   Leadbelly   8
    24   DJSprtsch   1
    25=   Six more teams   0
       Collective_Wisdom   28

    Standings

    Today's winner moves from 4th to top: Blues in the Bottle, Del, Comodoro and JSG are new entries in an 11-team top ten, Blues on the back of a 7 place leap, and JSG one of 8 spots.

    1   Salvarani   268
    2   ArchieBoy   263
    3   Googolplex   239
    4   AmisVelo   233
    5   Search   213
    6   BluesInTheBottle   211
    7   ChrisDK   200
    8   SafeBet   194
    9   Del1962   187
    10   Comodoro   183
    10   JustSomeGuy   183


    Main Game

    ROGLIC Primoz   224   4 teams
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   185   16
    POGACAR Tadej   135   2
    HIRSCHI Marc   70   2
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   61   7
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   45   1
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   30   1
    KUSS Sepp   20   3
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   18   2
    ---
    CRAS Steff   -20   1
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -22   2
    ELISSONDE Kenny   -23   5
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -24   2
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   -30   2
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -50   6
    ARU Fabio   -51   2
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   -58   12


    1   BluesInTheBottle   419 (Roglic and Bernal)
    2   BicycleBoy   396  (Roglic and Bernal, but Elissonde)
    3   Rote_Laterne   300 (Bernal, Uran, Quintana)
    4   Bminchow   286 (Bernal, Uran, Tejada)
    5   Shalgo   268 (Bernal, Uran)
    6   Del1962   226
    7   Armchair_Cyclist   218
    8   Mellow_Velo   199
    9   AmisVelo   187
    9   BikeRacer33   187
    11   Pirate81   183
    11   SafeBet   183
    13   Googolplex   175
    14   Salvarani   161
    15   Northerner   160
    16   Triley36   159
    17   Comodoro   129
    18   Yellow_Knight   121
    19   Search   106
    20   Otoxiep87   78
    21   Scrool07   72
    22   JustSomeGuy   69
    23   DJSprtsch   60
    24   Koronin   34
    25   ChrisDK   3
    26   Laarsland   -22
    26   Ray10   -22
    28   Leadbelly   -28
    29   ArchieBoy   -32
    30   Josedin   -64
       Collective_Wisdom   199


    Standings

    Now that the two main pre-race favourites are in the top two spots, the two teams who doubled up on them are in the top two here.  But after the way the last three days have been raced, I think we have plenty more to happen over the next 2 weeks, in the game and on the road.

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1521   4
    2   BicycleBoy   1461   5
    3   Del1962   1383   0
    4   Rote_Laterne   1338   4
    5   Comodoro   1318   -4
    6   Search   1289   -4
    7   Northerner   1281   -3
    8   AmisVelo   1191   2
    9   Shalgo   1188   5
    10   Salvarani   1181   -1
    11   Bminchow   1157   6
    12   Armchair_Cyclist   1151   0
    13   Triley36   1090   0
    14   Mellow_Velo   1075   2
    15   Otoxiep87   1072   -4
    16   Leadbelly   1070   -10
    17   BikeRacer33   1065   -2
    18   Googolplex   1027   1
    19   SafeBet   1018   1
    20   Scrool07   936   -2
    21   Yellow_Knight   934   1
    22   JustSomeGuy   886   -1
    23   Pirate81   880   1
    24   DJSprtsch   787   -1
    25   Laarsland   660   0
    26   Koronin   653   2
    27   ArchieBoy   627   -1
    28   Ray10   598   -1
    29   Josedin   539   0
    30   ChrisDK   536   0
       Collective_Wisdom   1330   

    I might have time to look at some numbers tomorrow.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #28 on: September 07, 2020, 19:13 »
    Rest day 1

    So how is it going for your team and your riders?

    Green points
    Riders with at least a third place, or the points equivalent of it:

    VAN AERT Wout   160   3 teams
    POGACAR Tadej   135   2
    ROGLIC Primoz   130   4
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   110   2
    BENNETT Sam   110   4
    BOL Cees   90   7
    HIRSCHI Marc   85   2
    LUTSENKO Alexey   85   0
    EWAN Caleb   83   0
    KRISTOFF Alexander   80   0
    PETERS Nans   80   0
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   60   0
    SAGAN Peter   55   3
    BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   50   2
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   50   1
    PEDERSEN Mads   50   1
    SKUJINS Toms   50   0
    COQUARD Bryan   45   5
    MARTIN Guillaume   40   2
    NIZZOLO Giacomo   40   3
    POWLESS Neilson   40   0
    YATES Adam   39   0
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   36   16
    VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos   35   1
    HOFSTETTER Hugo   31   0
    STUYVEN Jasper   31   0
    MOLLEMA Bauke   30   0
    LAPORTE Christophe   25   0
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   25   1
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   25   0

    And the teams they appear in

    1   Salvarani   268 (Pogacar, Bol and Martin)
    2   ArchieBoy   263 (Van Aert and Bol)
    3   Googolplex   239 (Bennett, Bol, Bernal)
    4   AmisVelo   233 (Roglic and Bol)
    5   Search   213 (Bennett and Hirschi)
    6   BluesInTheBottle   211 (Roglic, Coquard, Bernal)
    7   ChrisDK   200 (Van Aert, Nizzolo)
    8   SafeBet   194 (Alaphilippe, Coquard, Bernal)
    9   Del1962   187 (Roglic, Boasson Hagen)
    10   Comodoro   183 (Bol, Boasson Hagen, Bernal)
    10   JustSomeGuy   183 (Pogacar, Coquard)
    12   BicycleBoy   176 (Roglic, Bernal)
    13   Laarsland   173 (Bennett, Nizzolo)
    14   Ray10   168 (Van Aert)
    15   Josedin   158 (Alaphilippe and Coquard)
    16   Shalgo   150 (Bennett and Bernal)
    17   DJSprtsch   149 (Sagan, Pedersen, Nizzolo)
    17   Otoxiep87   149 (Bol, Bernal)
    19   Mellow_Velo   146 (Bol, Bernal)
    20   Scrool07   102 (Hirschi)
    21   Yellow_Knight   101 (Sagan, Bernal)
    22   Rote_Laterne   100 (Bernal, Verona)
    23   Koronin   99 (Herrada, Coquard)
    24   Bminchow   95 (Sagan, Bernal)
    25   Leadbelly   57 (Martin)
    26   Northerner   53 (Bernal)
    27   Armchair_Cyclist   50 (Bernal)
    28   BikeRacer33   44 (Bernal)
    29   Triley36   40  (Bernal)
    30   Pirate81   39  (Bernal)
       Collective_Wisdom   115


    Main Game

    The top 40 scorers so far (which amounts to the top 22 on GC or those with enough other points to equal that, and avoids me having to write "and Pinot" on 90% of the teams)

    ROGLIC Primoz   755   4 teams
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   486   16
    MARTIN Guillaume   420   2
    POGACAR Tadej   370   2
    BARDET Romain   324   7
    YATES Adam   319   0
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   315   1
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   261   7
    VAN AERT Wout   223   3
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   208   2
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   190   6
    BENNETT Sam   180   4
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   177   1
    SAGAN Peter   155   3
    MOLLEMA Bauke   150   0
    PETERS Nans   150   0
    PORTE Richie   142   0
    HIRSCHI Marc   140   2
    KRISTOFF Alexander   130   0
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   130   2
    LUTSENKO Alexey   122   0
    BOL Cees   110   7
    DUMOULIN Tom   110   28
    EWAN Caleb   106   0
    ZAKARIN Ilnur   103   0
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   102   0
    COSNEFROY Benoît   100   0
    CARUSO Damiano   94   0
    HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres   92   0
    SKUJINS Toms   92   0
    COQUARD Bryan   90   5
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   89   1
    VAN AVERMAET Greg   83   0
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   82   12
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   72   2
    BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   70   2
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   70   1
    PEDERSEN Mads   70   1
    ROLLAND Pierre   67   6
    BARGUIL Warren   65   0

    The teams that have these riders  (I don't intend writing "and Dumoulin" on nearly every team either: I'll mention him on the two where he is missing.)

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1521 (Roglic, Bernal, Coquard)
    2   BicycleBoy   1461 (Roglic, Bernal)
    3   Del1962   1383 (Roglic, Bardet, Boasson Hagen)
    4   Rote_Laterne   1338 (Bernal, Quintana, Uran)
    5   Comodoro   1318 (Bernal, Bardet, Bol, Buchmann, Chaves, Boasson Hagen)
    6   Search   1289 (Bardet, Uran, Lopez, Bennett, Hirschi)
    7   Northerner   1281 (Bernal, Bardet, Lopez, Rolland)
    8   AmisVelo   1191 (Roglic, Bol, Buchmann)
    9   Shalgo   1188  (Bernal, Uarn, Bennett, Rolland)
    10   Salvarani   1181 (Martin, Pogacar, Bol, Rolland)
    11   Bminchow   1157 (Bernal, Uran, Sagan)
    12   Armchair_Cyclist   1151 (Bernal, Uran, Lopez)
    13   Triley36   1090  (Bernal, Uran, Buchmann, Rolland)
    14   Mellow_Velo   1075 (Bernal, Landa, Bol, Buchmann)
    15   Otoxiep87   1072 (Bernal, Lopez, Bol, Buchmann)
    16   Leadbelly   1070  (Martin, Bardet, Buchmann)
    17   BikeRacer33   1065 (Bernal, Bardet)
    18   Googolplex   1027 (Bernal, Bennett, Bol)
    19   SafeBet   1018 (Bernal, Alaphilippe, Coquard)
    20   Scrool07   936 (Bardet, Lopez, Hirschi)
    21   Yellow_Knight   934  (Bernal, Sagan, Buchmann)
    22   JustSomeGuy   886 (Pogacar, Mas, Coquard, Buchmann)
    23   Pirate81   880 (Bernal, Buchmann)
    24   DJSprtsch   787 (Uran, Sagan, Pedersen and Rolland)
    25   Laarsland   660 (Lopez, Bennett)
    26   Koronin   653 (Mas, Coquard, Valverde, Herrada)
    27   ArchieBoy   627 (Van Aert, Bol, Buchmann, Rolland: no Dumoulin)
    28   Ray10   598 (Van Aert, Buchmann)
    29   Josedin   539 (Alaphilippe, Coquard, Buchmann: no Dumoulin)
    30   ChrisDK   536 (Van Aert, Chaves)
       Collective_Wisdom   1330 (Bernal, Buchmann and 80% of Bol, Bardet and Uran)

    Some observations:
    Van Aert is very impressive in the race, but the three teams that chose him here are in the bottom five.
    Dumoulin was almost ubiquitous, and although he has moved from option B to last mountain dom, he is still getting a good return on the low cost, and the teams that lack him are among the bottom 5.
    Pinot was almost as popular as Dumoulin, but a lot more expensive and underachieving: not going for him if it was in the interests of being able to afford both Bernal and Roglic was a wise move (at this stage), otherwise those who eschewed him did not invest any better (Sagan, Martinez, Nizzolo...)
    Comodoro's lowest scoring rider is 64 pointer Pinot
    Of the riders who have withdrawn, Cras was on one team (Otoxiep87), Degenkolb and Aru on two each (Armchair and Shalgo, Googolplex and TRiley) and Nizzolo, by far the most expensive DNF on three (ChrisDK, DJSprtsch and Laarsland).  I haven't removed Pozzovivo's projected points yet, as he will only become a DNS at the start of stage 10, but those who suffer will be Laarsland (again), Mellow Velo and Pirate81.
    Jumbo-Visma, the only team that are overbudget, have a cumulative score of 1257, AG2R are 2nd with 730, Ineos have 728, followed by Cofidis (625) and Trek (575).

    And if there are any other numbers to investigate, they are here.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #29 on: September 08, 2020, 22:22 »
    Stage 10 Focus on the Green

    Green points

    Today

    1   Googolplex   83 (Bennett and Bol)
    2   Laarsland   81 (Bennett and Mezgec)
    3=   Search, Shalgo   80 (Bennett)
    5   DJSprtsch   50 (Sagan and Pedersen)
    6=   Bminchow, Yellow_Knight   35 (Sagan)
    8=   BluesInTheBottle, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Koronin, SafeBet   5
    13=   ArchieBoy, Otoxiep87   4
    15=   AmisVelo, Comodoro, Mellow_Velo, Salvarani   3
    19=   Dozy dozen   0
       Collective_Wisdom   2


    Standings

    Googolplex rises 2 places to lead, and Search by three to get second.  Laarsland, Shalgo and DJS come into the top ten, with moves of 8, 9 amd 7 places respectively.

    1   Googolplex   322
    2   Search   293
    3   Salvarani   271
    4   ArchieBoy   267
    5   Laarsland   254
    6   AmisVelo   236
    7   Shalgo   230
    8   BluesInTheBottle   216
    9   ChrisDK   200
    10   DJSprtsch   199
    10   SafeBet   199


    Main game

    The biggest change on GC was Buchmann dropping one place to 19th, and there were no KoM points, so this is mainly stage points, shuffles in the points standings, withdrawals and yellow jersey bonuses.

    BENNETT Sam   110   4 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   20   4
    COQUARD Bryan   15   5
    PEDERSEN Mads   15   1
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   8   1
    KUSS Sepp   6   3
    SAGAN Peter   5   3
    ---
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -5   2
    BUCHMANN Emanuel   -5   12
    VAN AERT Wout   -15   3
    POZZOVIVO Domenico   -26   3


    1   Googolplex   116
    2   Search   106
    2   Shalgo   106
    4   Laarsland   81
    5   BluesInTheBottle   35
    6   Koronin   21
    7   BicycleBoy   20
    8   Del1962   16
    8   DJSprtsch   16
    10   AmisVelo   15
    11   SafeBet   6
    12   JustSomeGuy   4
    13   Scrool07   3
    14   Josedin   1
    14   Yellow_Knight   1
    16   Bminchow   -1
    17   Salvarani   -2
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   -4
    18   BikeRacer33   -4
    18   Northerner   -4
    18   Otoxiep87   -4
    22   Comodoro   -5
    22   Rote_Laterne   -5
    24   Leadbelly   -9
    24   Triley36   -9
    26   ChrisDK   -14
    26   Ray10   -14
    28   ArchieBoy   -18
    29   Mellow_Velo   -31
    30   Pirate81   -35
       Collective_Wisdom   -6


    Standings

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1556   0
    2   BicycleBoy   1481   0
    3   Del1962   1399   0
    4   Search   1395   2
    5   Rote_Laterne   1333   -1
    6   Comodoro   1313   -1
    7   Shalgo   1294   2
    8   Northerner   1277   -1
    9   AmisVelo   1206   -1
    10   Salvarani   1179   0
    11   Bminchow   1156   0
    12   Armchair_Cyclist   1147   0
    13   Googolplex   1143   5
    14   Triley36   1081   -1
    15   Otoxiep87   1068   0
    16   BikeRacer33   1061   1
    16   Leadbelly   1061   0
    18   Mellow_Velo   1044   -4
    19   SafeBet   1024   0
    20   Scrool07   939   0
    21   Yellow_Knight   935   0
    22   JustSomeGuy   890   0
    23   Pirate81   845   0
    24   DJSprtsch   803   0
    25   Laarsland   741   0
    26   Koronin   674   0
    27   ArchieBoy   609   0
    28   Ray10   584   0
    29   Josedin   540   0
    30   ChrisDK   522   0
       Collective_Wisdom   1324   
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