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Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2020, 18:40 »
Stage 11  Another day with the focus on green

Green points

After the relegation of Sagan

Today

1   Laarsland   55 (Bennett and Mezgec)
2   Shalgo   51 (Bennett and Gibbons)
3=   Googolplex, Search   50 (Bennett)
5   ArchieBoy   40 (Van Aert and Mezgec)
6=   ChrisDK   , Ray10   35 (Van Aert)
8   JustSomeGuy   26 (Coquard and Gibbons)
9=   BluesInTheBottle, Josedin, Koronin, SafeBet   25 (Coquard)
13   DJSprtsch   10
14   Otoxiep87   5
15   AmisVelo   1
16=   All the others   0

Standings

1   Googolplex   372
2   Search   343
3   Laarsland   309
4   ArchieBoy   307
5   Shalgo   281
6   Salvarani   271
7   BluesInTheBottle   241
8   AmisVelo   237
9   ChrisDK   235
10   SafeBet   224

The 4 teams with Sam Bennett are now in the top five, only Archie infiltrates them.


Main Game

As yesterday, a Colombian moving ahead of Buchmann is the highest positioned GC change.

BENNETT Sam   50   4 teams
VAN AERT Wout   38   3
COQUARD Bryan   25   5
ROGLIC Primoz   20   4
PEDERSEN Mads   10   1
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   5   2
MEZGEC Luka   5   3
---
ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -5   2
BUCHMANN Emanuel   -5   12
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   -8   2
FORMOLO Davide   -20   2


Today

1   Laarsland   57
2   Shalgo   53
3   Search   52
4   Googolplex   50
5   BluesInTheBottle   48
6   ChrisDK   46
7   ArchieBoy   43
8   Koronin   29
9   Ray10   28
10   JustSomeGuy   23
11   Del1962   22
11   SafeBet   22
13   Josedin   21
14   BicycleBoy   20
15   AmisVelo   18
16   DJSprtsch   12
17   Rote_Laterne   5
18   Scrool07   3
19   Armchair_Cyclist   2
19   Comodoro   2
19   Northerner   2
19   Otoxiep87   2
19   Salvarani   2
24   Yellow_Knight   -2
25   Mellow_Velo   -3
25   Triley36   -3
27   Bminchow   -6
28   Pirate81   -15
29   BikeRacer33   -18
30   Leadbelly   -23
   Collective_Wisdom   -3

Standings

The relevant (so far) difference in composition between the top two (they both have both Bernal and Roglic) is the Blues in the Bottle has Bryan Coquard, while only Hermans has gained additional stage points for BicycleBoy: that means the gap widens today.
Search moves onto the virtual podium, Shalgo overtakes a couple of top ten teams, Googolplex appears in the top ten and shares the biggest rise with SafeBet.

1   BluesInTheBottle   1604
2   BicycleBoy   1501
3   Search   1447
4   Del1962   1421
5   Shalgo   1347
6   Rote_Laterne   1338
7   Comodoro   1315
8   Northerner   1279
9   AmisVelo   1224
10   Googolplex   1193
11   Salvarani   1181
12   Bminchow   1150
13   Armchair_Cyclist   1149
14   Triley36   1078
15   Otoxiep87   1070
16   SafeBet   1046
17   BikeRacer33   1043
18   Mellow_Velo   1041
19   Leadbelly   1038
20   Scrool07   942
21   Yellow_Knight   933
22   JustSomeGuy   913
23   Pirate81   830
24   DJSprtsch   815
25   Laarsland   798
26   Koronin   703
27   ArchieBoy   652
28   Ray10   612
29   ChrisDK   568
30   Josedin   561
   Collective_Wisdom   1321

After two very similar days, it would be nice to see something else tomorrow.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #31 on: September 10, 2020, 16:38 »
    Finally Hirschi get his win after 2 close attempts,my top pick in the game so far
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #32 on: September 10, 2020, 19:18 »
    Stage 12  Everyone's new favourite rider gets it at last.

    Green points

    Today

    1   Scrool07, Search   80 (Hirschi)
    3   DJSprtsch   52 (Rolland and Elissonde)
    4   ArchieBoy, Northerner, Salvarani, Shalgo, Triley36   50 (Rolland)
    9   Koronin   15 (Herrada)
    10   Josedin   3 (Reichenbach)
    11   BicycleBoy, BikeRacer33, Del1962, Yellow_Knight   2 (Elissonde)
    15   The remainder   0

    Standings

    Search takes over at the top, with Hirschi being a surprise weapon in this game's version of the points classification.

    1   Search   423
    2   Googolplex   372
    3   ArchieBoy   357
    4   Shalgo   331
    5   Salvarani   321
    6   Laarsland   309
    7   DJSprtsch   261
    8   BluesInTheBottle   241
    9   AmisVelo   237
    10   ChrisDK   235


    Main Game

    HIRSCHI Marc   85   2 teams
    ROLLAND Pierre   55   6
    ROGLIC Primoz   25   4
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   15   1
    REICHENBACH Sébastien   13   1
    ELISSONDE Kenny   11   5
    ---
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   -10   4
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   -11   2
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   -23   1


    Modest changes again today:

    1   Search   85 (Hirschi)
    2   Scrool07   75 (Hirschi but Martinez)
    3   DJSprtsch   66 (Rolland and Elissonde)
    4   Salvarani   56
    5   Northerner   55
    5   Shalgo   55
    7   Triley36   48
    8   ArchieBoy   41
    9   BicycleBoy   36
    9   Del1962   36
    11   BluesInTheBottle   22
    12   AmisVelo   17
    13   Josedin   12
    14   BikeRacer33   11
    15   Rote_Laterne   9
    16   Ray10   8
    17   SafeBet   6
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   0
    18   Laarsland   0
    20   ChrisDK   -1
    20   Googolplex   -1
    22   Comodoro   -3
    23   JustSomeGuy   -5
    24   Yellow_Knight   -6
    25   Leadbelly   -7
    26   Koronin   -8
    26   Mellow_Velo   -8
    26   Otoxiep87   -8
    29   Bminchow   -11
    30   Pirate81   -16
       Collective_Wisdom   -8

    Standings

    The race, and game, are at a mature stage when no team moves by more than one place up or down.  The value of place riders can be seen by the fact that BicycleBoy has both Roglic and Bernal while Search, who has neither of them, is only 5 points behind him.

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1626   0
    2   BicycleBoy   1537   0
    3   Search   1532   0
    4   Del1962   1457   0
    5   Shalgo   1402   0
    6   Rote_Laterne   1347   0
    7   Northerner   1334   1
    8   Comodoro   1312   -1
    9   AmisVelo   1241   0
    10   Salvarani   1237   1
    11   Googolplex   1192   -1
    12   Armchair_Cyclist   1149   1
    13   Bminchow   1139   -1
    14   Triley36   1126   0
    15   Otoxiep87   1062   0
    16   BikeRacer33   1054   1
    17   SafeBet   1052   -1
    18   Mellow_Velo   1033   0
    19   Leadbelly   1031   0
    20   Scrool07   1017   0
    21   Yellow_Knight   927   0
    22   JustSomeGuy   908   0
    23   DJSprtsch   881   1
    24   Pirate81   814   -1
    25   Laarsland   798   0
    26   Koronin   695   0
    27   ArchieBoy   693   0
    28   Ray10   620   0
    29   Josedin   573   1
    30   ChrisDK   567   -1
       Collective_Wisdom   1313   

    After several days, the GC race should resume tomorrow.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #33 on: September 11, 2020, 21:10 »
    Stage 13  Unlucky for the French contenders

    Green points

    Two teams had the luxury of watching the last couple of km without worrying about what order they finished in

    1=   ChrisDK, Scrool07   130 (Martinez and Kamna)
    3   ArchieBoy   95 (Martinez and Rolland)
    4   Yellow_Knight   80 (Martinez)
    5   Armchair_Cyclist, BikeRacer33, Josedin, Pirate81, Ray10   50 (Kamna)
    10   DJSprtsch, Northerner, Salvarani, Shalgo, Triley36   15 (Rolland)
    15=   All others   0
       Collective_Wisdom   40

    Standings

    Archie comes from 3rd to top, and ChrisDK from 10th to 4th.  Scrool and Ray appear in the top ten, with rises of 10 and 3 positions

    1   ArchieBoy   452
    2   Search   423
    3   Googolplex   372
    4   ChrisDK   365
    5   Shalgo   346
    6   Salvarani   336
    7   Scrool07   312
    8   Laarsland   309
    9   DJSprtsch   276
    10   Ray10   253



    Main Game



    After a few neutralised days (GC wise), today we are back to some large gains

    POGACAR Tadej   216   2 teams
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   107   4
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   80   6
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   60   7
    KÄMNA Lennard   57   7
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   40   1
    ROLLAND Pierre   31   6
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   30   2
    ROGLIC Primoz   20   4
    ---
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   -70   16
    BARDET Romain   -180   7
    MARTIN Guillaume   -250   2

    Two teams have Pogacar, but for Salvarani, the boost to his score was wiped out by Guillaume Martin's demise.
    1   JustSomeGuy   248 (Pogacar and Mas)
    2   ChrisDK   151 (Martinez and Kamna)
    3   Armchair_Cyclist   139 (Lopez, Uran, Kamna but Bernal)
    4   ArchieBoy   122 (Martinez and Rolland)
    5   DJSprtsch   103 (Uran and Rolland)
    6   Laarsland   92
    7   Scrool07   83
    8   Koronin   61
    9   Josedin   55
    10   Yellow_Knight   37
    11   Ray10   36
    12   Shalgo   33
    13   Triley36   23
    14   AmisVelo   22
    15   Salvarani   14
    16   Otoxiep87   12
    17   Bminchow   7
    18   Rote_Laterne   -3
    19   Pirate81   -19
    20   Mellow_Velo   -28
    21   Search   -32
    22   BicycleBoy   -40
    22   BluesInTheBottle   -40
    24   Googolplex   -47
    25   SafeBet   -48
    26   Northerner   -122
    27   Del1962   -143
    28   BikeRacer33   -181
    29   Comodoro   -263
    30   Leadbelly   -428
       Collective_Wisdom   -118


    Standings

    Two teams have both Roglic and Bernal, but none combined Rog'n'Pog.  Search, despite the damage done to his score by Bardet today, moves into second place.  Armchair is the only entry into the top ten, but just outside it JSG has an 11 place move.

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1586   0
    2   Search   1500   1
    3   BicycleBoy   1497   -1
    4   Shalgo   1435   1
    5   Rote_Laterne   1344   1
    6   Del1962   1314   -2
    7   Armchair_Cyclist   1288   5
    8   AmisVelo   1263   1
    9   Salvarani   1251   1
    10   Northerner   1212   -3
    11   JustSomeGuy   1156   11
    12   Triley36   1149   2
    13   Bminchow   1146   0
    14   Googolplex   1145   -3
    15   Scrool07   1100   5
    16   Otoxiep87   1074   -1
    17   Comodoro   1049   -9
    18   Mellow_Velo   1005   0
    19   SafeBet   1004   -2
    20   DJSprtsch   984   3
    21   Yellow_Knight   964   0
    22   Laarsland   890   3
    23   BikeRacer33   873   -7
    24   ArchieBoy   815   3
    25   Pirate81   795   -1
    26   Koronin   756   0
    27   ChrisDK   718   3
    28   Ray10   656   0
    29   Josedin   628   0
    30   Leadbelly   603   -11
       Collective_Wisdom   1195   


    Spreadsheet
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #34 on: September 12, 2020, 20:26 »
    Stage 14  Green jersey again dominates the stage

    Green points

    1=   ArchieBoy, Laarsland, Otoxiep87   50 (Mezgec)
    4=   Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Yellow_Knight   25 (Sagan)
    7=   Scrool07, Search   1 (Hirschi)
    9=   Everyone else   0

    Standings

    Two of the Mezgec teams are in the top ten: Archie extends his lead and Laarsland moves up one.  DJS had Sagan, but does not change position.
    1   ArchieBoy   502
    2   Search   424
    3   Googolplex   372
    4   ChrisDK   365
    5   Laarsland   359
    6   Shalgo   346
    7   Salvarani   336
    8   Scrool07   313
    9   DJSprtsch   301
    10   Ray10   253

    Main Game

    Not a lot

    MEZGEC Luka   50   3 teams
    SAGAN Peter   25   3
    ROGLIC Primoz   20   4
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   16   2
    VAN AERT Wout   14   3
    VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos   14   1
    KÄMNA Lennard   12   7
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   11   1
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   11   1
    DUMOULIN Tom   10   28
    MARTIN Guillaume   10   2
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   10   1
    ---
    COQUARD Bryan   -10   5
    REICHENBACH Sébastien   -16   1
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe   -18   4
    LATOUR Pierre   -20   3
    BARDET Romain   -140   7


    1   Otoxiep87   56 (Mezgec and Dumoulin)
    2   Ray10   49 (Van Aert, Kamna, Kwiatkowski and Dumoulin)
    3   ArchieBoy   36 (Mezgec and Van Aert, but Martinez)
    4   BicycleBoy   34
    5   Laarsland   32
    6   AmisVelo   26
    7   DJSprtsch   25
    7   Yellow_Knight   25
    9   BluesInTheBottle   24
    9   Pirate81   24
    11   ChrisDK   23
    11   Koronin   23
    13   Rote_Laterne   16
    14   Armchair_Cyclist   14
    15   Bminchow   9
    16   Salvarani   8
    17   Googolplex   7
    18   Mellow_Velo   6
    19   Triley36   0
    20   Josedin   -2
    21   JustSomeGuy   -4
    21   Shalgo   -4
    23   SafeBet   -12
    24   Del1962   -112
    25   BikeRacer33   -122
    26   Leadbelly   -124
    27   Comodoro   -129
    28   Search   -137
    29   Scrool07   -138
    30   Northerner   -142
       Collective_Wisdom   -96

    Standings

    BicycleBoy only ceded second place for a day, and Search reaches a podium position as  Shalgo suffers from Bardet's withdrawal.  Bminchow moves up 3 places and into the top ten, but if he had just 6 points fewer he would be where he was:  it is very close in that part of the table.

    1   BluesInTheBottle   1610   0
    2   BicycleBoy   1531   1
    3   Shalgo   1431   1
    4   Search   1363   -2
    5   Rote_Laterne   1360   0
    6   Armchair_Cyclist   1302   1
    7   AmisVelo   1289   1
    8   Salvarani   1259   1
    9   Del1962   1202   -3
    10   Bminchow   1155   3
    11   Googolplex   1152   3
    11   JustSomeGuy   1152   0
    13   Triley36   1149   -1
    14   Otoxiep87   1130   2
    15   Northerner   1070   -5
    16   Mellow_Velo   1011   2
    17   DJSprtsch   1009   3
    18   SafeBet   992   1
    19   Yellow_Knight   989   2
    20   Scrool07   962   -5
    21   Laarsland   922   1
    22   Comodoro   920   -5
    23   ArchieBoy   851   1
    24   Pirate81   819   1
    25   Koronin   779   1
    26   BikeRacer33   751   -3
    27   ChrisDK   741   0
    28   Ray10   705   0
    29   Josedin   626   0
    30   Leadbelly   479   0
       Collective_Wisdom   1099   
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #35 on: September 13, 2020, 19:37 »
    Stage 15  The Chicken Liddle stage (Sky has fallen in)


    Green points

    1   JustSomeGuy   95 (Pogacar and Mas)
    2   Salvarani   80 (Pogacar)
    3=   AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, Del1962   50 (roglic)
    7   Scrool07   35 (Lopez and Kuss)
    8=   Armchair_Cyclist, Search   27 (Lopez and Uran)
    10   Koronin   26 (Mas, Kuss and Valverde)
    11=   Laarsland, Northerner, Otoxiep87   25 (Lopez)
    14   Googolplex   10
    15   Mellow_Velo   5
    16   5 Uran teams   2
    21   Ten others   0
       Collective_Wisdom   2

    Standings

    The big jump in the top ten is Salvarani up from 7th to third; the big jump into the ten is JSG, up 7 places.

    1   ArchieBoy   502
    2   Search   451
    3   Salvarani   416
    4   Laarsland   384
    5   Googolplex   382
    6   ChrisDK   365
    7   Scrool07   348
    7   Shalgo   348
    9   JustSomeGuy   309
    10   DJSprtsch   303

    Main Game

    Lots of riders gain points from overtaking Bernal and Quintana

    POGACAR Tadej   130   2 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   95   4
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   85   6
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   62   7
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   55   2
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   35   1
    DUMOULIN Tom   30   28
    KUSS Sepp   21   3
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   21   1
    ELISSONDE Kenny   20   5
    REICHENBACH Sébastien   20   1
    ---
    HIRSCHI Marc   -21   2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -26   2
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -110   1
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   -260   16

    Over half the teams suffer with Bernal's drop from contention.
    1   JustSomeGuy   193 (Pogacar, Mas and Dumoulin)
    2   Salvarani   176 (Pogacar and Dumoulin)
    3   Del1962   151 (Roglic, Dumoulin and Elissonde)
    4   Search   150 (Lopez, Uran, Dumoulin but Hirschi)
    5   Koronin   127 (Mas, Dumoulin, Kuss and Valverde)
    6   DJSprtsch   116
    7   Laarsland   109
    8   Scrool07   104
    9   AmisVelo   103
    10   ChrisDK   35
    11   Ray10   30
    12   ArchieBoy   9
    13   Leadbelly   8
    14   Josedin   -44
    15   Armchair_Cyclist   -105
    16   BicycleBoy   -115
    17   Northerner   -129
    18   BluesInTheBottle   -131
    19   Bminchow   -147
    20   Shalgo   -164
    21   Otoxiep87   -167
    22   Triley36   -180
    23   Googolplex   -215
    23   Yellow_Knight   -215
    25   Mellow_Velo   -217
    26   BikeRacer33   -232
    27   Pirate81   -245
    28   Comodoro   -252
    29   SafeBet   -262
    30   Rote_Laterne   -272
       Collective_Wisdom   -215

    Standings

    The teams who were the top two for a week combined Roglic and Bernal, but as Bernal (along with Quintana)  lost places, it was not a Pogacar team that took advantage, but one headed by two other Colombians: Uran and Lopez.  Step up Search to wear the yellow jersey into the day off.

    1   Search   1513   3
    2   BluesInTheBottle   1479   -1
    3   Salvarani   1435   5
    4   BicycleBoy   1416   -2
    5   AmisVelo   1392   2
    6   Del1962   1353   3
    7   JustSomeGuy   1345   4
    8   Shalgo   1267   -5
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1197   -3
    10   DJSprtsch   1125   7
    11   Rote_Laterne   1088   -6
    12   Scrool07   1066   8
    13   Laarsland   1031   8
    14   Bminchow   1008   -4
    15   Triley36   969   -2
    16   Otoxiep87   963   -2
    17   Northerner   941   -2
    18   Googolplex   937   -7
    19   Koronin   906   6
    20   ArchieBoy   860   3
    21   Mellow_Velo   794   -5
    22   ChrisDK   776   5
    23   Yellow_Knight   774   -4
    24   Ray10   735   4
    25   SafeBet   730   -7
    26   Comodoro   668   -4
    27   Josedin   582   2
    28   Pirate81   574   -4
    29   BikeRacer33   519   -3
    30   Leadbelly   487   0
       Collective_Wisdom   883   

    I think I'll have some time for number crunching tomorrow.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #36 on: September 13, 2020, 19:40 »
    Nice work Search.

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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #37 on: September 13, 2020, 19:58 »
    well, let's see how this will develop... they are not exactly looking splendid. When did you lose trust in little Richie though? :D
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #38 on: September 13, 2020, 20:30 »
    :lol

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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #39 on: September 16, 2020, 01:15 »
    Stage 16 Points for those who didn't take a second rest day

    Green points

    1   Josedin   116 (Kamna, Reichenbach, Alaphilippe)
    2=   Armchair_Cyclist, BikeRacer33, ChrisDK, Pirate81, Ray10, Scrool07   80 (Kamna)
    8=   ArchieBoy, Leadbelly, Triley36   25 (Sivakov)
    11   SafeBet   1 (Alaphilippe)
    12   All others   0
       Collective_Wisdom   64

    Standings

    Because I didn't do a rest day posting with the whole table, here it is:
    1   ArchieBoy   527
    2   Search   451
    3   ChrisDK   445
    4   Scrool07   428
    5   Salvarani   416
    6   Laarsland   384
    7   Googolplex   382
    8   Josedin   357
    9   Shalgo   348
    10   Ray10   333
    11   JustSomeGuy   309
    12   DJSprtsch   303
    13   BluesInTheBottle   291
    14   AmisVelo   287
    15   Yellow_Knight   243
    16   Del1962   239
    17   Otoxiep87   233
    18   BicycleBoy   228
    19   SafeBet   225
    20   Armchair_Cyclist   207
    21   Comodoro   186
    22   BikeRacer33   176
    23   Koronin   170
    24   Pirate81   169
    25   Bminchow   157
    26   Mellow_Velo   154
    27   Northerner   143
    28   Triley36   132
    29   Rote_Laterne   102
    30   Leadbelly   82
       Collective_Wisdom   223

    Archie extends his lead, Chris and Scrool both move up 3, Josedin moves up 7 and into the top ten.

    Main game

    KÄMNA Lennard   101   7 teams
    ROLLAND Pierre   46   6
    REICHENBACH Sébastien   45   1
    SIVAKOV Pavel   25   3
    DUMOULIN Tom   20   28
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   17   2
    ROGLIC Primoz   10   4

    ---
    CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban   -11   2
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   -14   1
    POGACAR Tadej   -15   2
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -20   1
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   -26   16
    GAUDU David   -26   1


    1   Josedin   157  (Kamna, Reichenbach and Alaphilippe)
    2   Scrool07   108  (Kamna and Dumoulin)
    3   ChrisDK   104 (Kamna and Dumoulin but Chaves)
    4   Armchair_Cyclist   95
    4   BikeRacer33   95
    6   Pirate81   82
    7   Ray10   69
    8   DJSprtsch   66
    9   ArchieBoy   59
    9   Triley36   59
    11   Salvarani   45
    12   Shalgo   40
    13   Leadbelly   39
    14   Northerner   34
    15   AmisVelo   24
    15   Del1962   24
    17   Laarsland   20
    18   Search   15
    19   SafeBet   11
    20   Koronin   9
    21   BicycleBoy   4
    22   BluesInTheBottle   1
    23   JustSomeGuy   -1
    24   Googolplex   -12
    24   Mellow_Velo   -12
    24   Otoxiep87   -12
    27   Yellow_Knight   -14
    28   Bminchow   -17
    29   Rote_Laterne   -18
    30   Comodoro   -23
       Collective_Wisdom   69

    Standings

    Salvarani is the only manager to move up within the top ten, and we now have a tie for second place (and no countback system).  You have to go all the way down to 22nd place to find anyone who has climbed more than a single place, where Ray has moved 2.
    1   Search   1528   0
    2   BluesInTheBottle   1480   0
    2   Salvarani   1480   1
    4   BicycleBoy   1420   0
    5   AmisVelo   1416   0
    6   Del1962   1377   0
    7   JustSomeGuy   1344   0
    8   Shalgo   1307   0
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1292   0
    10   DJSprtsch   1191   0
    11   Scrool07   1174   1
    12   Rote_Laterne   1070   -1
    13   Laarsland   1051   0
    14   Triley36   1028   1
    15   Bminchow   991   -1
    16   Northerner   975   1
    17   Otoxiep87   951   -1
    18   Googolplex   925   0
    19   ArchieBoy   919   1
    20   Koronin   915   -1
    21   ChrisDK   880   1
    22   Ray10   804   2
    23   Mellow_Velo   782   -2
    24   Yellow_Knight   760   -1
    25   SafeBet   741   0
    26   Josedin   739   1
    27   Pirate81   656   1
    28   Comodoro   645   -2
    29   BikeRacer33   614   0
    30   Leadbelly   526   0
       Collective_Wisdom   952   

    Sorry I didn't get around to doing a breakdown yesterday (real life intervened).  Here are all the numbers for you to do that for yourselves.

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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #40 on: September 16, 2020, 10:33 »
    If Bernal had stopped during stage 16, rather than DNSing stage 17, the top ten would have been


    1   Search   1530
    2   Salvarani   1490   
    3   AmisVelo   1420   
    4   BluesInTheBottle   1387   
    5   Del1962   1383   
    6   JustSomeGuy   1348   
    7   BicycleBoy   1328   
    8   Shalgo   1221   
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1202
    10   DJSprtsch   1201

    Which means that despite Roglic holding the big score for projected GC win, and 180 yellow jersey points so far, the 4 teams that have him are provisionally 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th.  If the (presumed) winner is very expensive, then he does not necessary win you the game unless the rest of the budget is well spent, without expensive let downs.  AV has Pinot and Buchmann, Del has Pinot and Bardet, and BitB and BB both have Bernal.  More balanced teams are better than all in for yellow, it would appear.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #41 on: September 16, 2020, 19:10 »
    Stage 17  Queen stage: more impact on the time differences than the positions, except in the case of Colombians.

    Green points

    Assume "and Dumoulin" for every team except the two with no points.

    1   Scrool07   106 (Lopez, Kuss)
    2=   Armchair_Cyclist, Search   83 (Lopez, Uran)
    4=   Laarsland, Northerner, Otoxiep87   81 (Lopez)
    7=   AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, Del1962   51 (Roglic)
    11   JustSomeGuy   46 (Pogacar, Mas)
    12=   Koronin (Kuss, Mas), Salvarani (Pogacar)   36
    14   Googolplex   26 (Kuss)
    15   Mellow_Velo   6 (Landa)
    16=   Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Rote_Laterne, Shalgo, Triley36   3
    21=   BikeRacer33,  ChrisDK, Comodoro, Leadbelly, Pirate81, Ray10, SafeBet, Yellow_Knight   1
    29=   ArchieBoy, Josedin   0
       Collective_Wisdom   3


    Standings

    A tie!  Search was previously 2nd, Scrool 4th.  Laarsland and JSG both also move up two places.

    1=   Scrool07   534
    1=   Search   534
    3   ArchieBoy   527
    4   Laarsland   465
    5   Salvarani   452
    6   ChrisDK   446
    7   Googolplex   408
    8   Josedin   357
    9   JustSomeGuy   355
    10   Shalgo   351


    Main game

    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   175   6 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   95   4
    POGACAR Tadej   81   2
    KUSS Sepp   37   3
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   30   1
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   11   2
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   10   2
    ---
    DEBUSSCHERE Jens   -20   1
    ROLLAND Pierre   -41   6
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -60   1
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   -94   16
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   -118   7



    1   Scrool07   208 (Lopez & Kuss)
    2   Laarsland   176 (Lopez)
    3   Del1962   110 (Roglic)
    4   AmisVelo   98
    5   JustSomeGuy   94
    6   Otoxiep87   84
    7   Koronin   74
    8   Search   51
    9   Northerner   49
    9   Salvarani   49
    11   Josedin   11
    12   BicycleBoy   8
    13   Leadbelly   3
    14   ChrisDK   2
    15   BluesInTheBottle   0
    15   Ray10   0
    17   ArchieBoy   -32
    18   Armchair_Cyclist   -36
    19   Googolplex   -56
    20   SafeBet   -82
    21   Yellow_Knight   -83
    22   Mellow_Velo   -86
    23   BikeRacer33   -87
    24   Pirate81   -94
    25   Comodoro   -97
    26   DJSprtsch   -152
    27   Bminchow   -204
    28   Triley36   -250
    29   Shalgo   -252
    30   Rote_Laterne   -281
       Collective_Wisdom   -185

    Standings

    (Changes are since the end of yesterday's stage, not from the interim morning table)

    Amis Velo moves onto the podium and is now the top Roglic team.  Search is now top of both tables, so will have to decide which jersey to wear tomorrow.  Scrool07 is a late claimant of a top ten place.

    1   Search   1579   0
    2   Salvarani   1529   0
    3   AmisVelo   1514   2
    4   Del1962   1487   2
    5   BluesInTheBottle   1480   -3
    6   JustSomeGuy   1438   1
    7   BicycleBoy   1428   -3
    8   Scrool07   1382   3
    9   Armchair_Cyclist   1256   0
    10   Laarsland   1227   3
    11   Shalgo   1055   -3
    12   DJSprtsch   1039   -2
    13   Otoxiep87   1035   4
    14   Northerner   1024   2
    15   Koronin   989   5
    16   ArchieBoy   887   3
    17   ChrisDK   882   4
    18   Googolplex   869   0
    19   Ray10   804   3
    20   Rote_Laterne   789   -8
    21   Bminchow   787   -6
    22   Triley36   778   -8
    23   Josedin   750   3
    24   Mellow_Velo   696   -1
    25   Yellow_Knight   677   -1
    26   SafeBet   659   -1
    27   Pirate81   562   0
    28   Comodoro   548   0
    29   Leadbelly   529   1
    30   BikeRacer33   527   -1
       Collective_Wisdom   767   
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #42 on: September 16, 2020, 19:39 »
    Woo hoo! I'm not last! :P
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    Need another stage win
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #44 on: September 16, 2020, 23:29 »
    That will be quite an accomplishment if I can hold on to the lanterne rouge. It's funny, I did consider taking half the Jumbo roster for my roster...I think that would have turned out better haha
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #45 on: September 17, 2020, 06:59 »
    My main hopes for the GC(Bardet,Pinot and Dumoulin) failed badly with 0 points from all of them I think but my side picks(Hirschi,Kuss,Kamna and D.Martinez) saved this tour for me which is strange because in previous editions of the game it was the reverse
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #46 on: September 17, 2020, 08:50 »
    Need another stage win

    If it's by Pogacar and gets him into yellow, and Mas comes second and moves up a couple of spots, that might indeed be all you need.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #47 on: September 17, 2020, 09:33 »
    Now why has it never struck me to include this stat before? 
    Average scores according to which forum teams were submitted through: VeloRooms 1001, Cycling News 996.6 (but you don't want to know what happens if I take the median rather than the average)
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #48 on: September 17, 2020, 21:59 »
    Stage 18  Gravelly, and a very odd photo finish

    Green points

    As yesterday, assume "and Dumoulin" unless told otherwise

    1   Ray10   116 (Kwiatkowski, Van Aert)
    2   ChrisDK   36 (Van Aert)
    3   ArchieBoy   35(Van Aert, no Dumoulin)
    4=   AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, Del1962   26 (Roglic)
    8   JustSomeGuy   21 (Pogacar and Mas)
    9   Salvarani   16 (Pogacar)
    10   Koronin   6 (Mas)
    11   Mellow_Velo   4 (Landa)
    12=   Eighteen teams   1
    30   Josedin   0 (no Dumoulin)
       Collective_Wisdom   1

    Standings

    Archie is back on top, Ray has a 6 place jump.

    1   ArchieBoy   562
    2   Scrool07   535
    2   Search   535
    4   ChrisDK   482
    5   Salvarani   468
    6   Laarsland   466
    7   Ray10   450
    8   Googolplex   409
    9   JustSomeGuy   376
    10   BluesInTheBottle   368


    Main Game

    KWIATKOWSKI Michal   96   1 team
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   65   2
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   63   1
    VAN AERT Wout   40   3
    ROGLIC Primoz   31   4
    HIRSCHI Marc   22   2
    SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon   11   1
    ---
    MARTIN Guillaume   -10   2
    ROLLAND Pierre   -10   6
    MARTIN Daniel   -12   4
    QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander   -12   1
    POGACAR Tadej   -14   2
    ALAPHILIPPE Julian   -14   2
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -20   6
    URAN URAN Rigoberto   -60   7



    1   Ray10   123 (Kwiatkowski and Van Aert)
    2   Koronin   86 (Mas and Sanchez)
    3   Mellow_Velo   60 (Landa)
    4   JustSomeGuy   48
    5   ChrisDK   47
    6   BluesInTheBottle   36
    7   ArchieBoy   34
    7   BicycleBoy   34
    9   AmisVelo   28
    10   Del1962   24
    11   Scrool07   15
    12   Googolplex   9
    13   Yellow_Knight   5
    14   BikeRacer33   1
    15   Comodoro   -1
    16   SafeBet   -11
    17   Leadbelly   -13
    18   Josedin   -16
    19   Laarsland   -17
    19   Pirate81   -17
    21   Otoxiep87   -23
    22   Northerner   -39
    23   Salvarani   -43
    24   Search   -55
    25   DJSprtsch   -65
    26   Shalgo   -67
    27   Rote_Laterne   -69
    28   Bminchow   -73
    28   Triley36   -73
    30   Armchair_Cyclist   -81
       Collective_Wisdom   -54

    Standings

    A new leader, as the continuing demise of Uran and Lopez losing places in the KoM classification topple Search.  Although Ray10, with his unique pick of Kwiatkowski, dominated the daily scores, Koronin and Mellow Velo do better in terms of movement through the table.

    1   AmisVelo   1542   2
    2   Search   1524   -1
    3   BluesInTheBottle   1516   2
    4   Del1962   1511   0
    5   JustSomeGuy   1486   1
    5   Salvarani   1486   -3
    7   BicycleBoy   1462   0
    8   Scrool07   1397   0
    9   Laarsland   1210   1
    10   Armchair_Cyclist   1175   -1
    11   Koronin   1075   4
    12   Otoxiep87   1012   1
    13   Shalgo   988   -2
    14   Northerner   985   0
    15   DJSprtsch   974   -3
    16   ChrisDK   929   1
    17   Ray10   927   2
    18   ArchieBoy   921   -2
    19   Googolplex   878   -1
    20   Mellow_Velo   756   4
    21   Josedin   734   2
    22   Rote_Laterne   720   -2
    23   Bminchow   714   -2
    24   Triley36   705   -2
    25   Yellow_Knight   682   0
    26   SafeBet   648   0
    27   Comodoro   547   1
    28   Pirate81   545   -1
    29   BikeRacer33   528   1
    30   Leadbelly   516   -1
       Collective_Wisdom   713   

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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #49 on: September 19, 2020, 01:06 »
    Stage 19 Sprinters' breakaway

    Green points

    1   Laarsland   53 (Mezgec and Bennett)
    2=   ArchieBoy, Otoxiep87   50 (Mezgec)
    4=   Googolplex, Search, Shalgo   3 (Bennett)
    7   Bminchow, DJSprtsch, Yellow_Knight   2 (Sagan)
    10   All the others   0

    Standings

    Archie extends his lead, the tie for 2nd place is undone, and Laarsland has moved up 2.

    1   ArchieBoy   612
    2   Search   538
    3   Scrool07   535
    4   Laarsland   519
    5   ChrisDK   482
    6   Salvarani   468
    7   Ray10   450
    8   Googolplex   412
    9   JustSomeGuy   376
    10   BluesInTheBottle   368

    Main Game

    Today was more about making various jersey statuses safe, so not many points to add, and even fewer to subtract

    MEZGEC Luka   50   3 teams
    ROGLIC Primoz   19   4
    BENNETT Sam   3   4
    SAGAN Peter   2   3
    JUNGELS Bob   1   1
    HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus   1   1
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   1   2
    MARTIN Daniel   1   4
    ---
    POGACAR Tadej   -2   2
    PÖSTLBERGER Lukas   -20   1


    You'll have noticed over the last 2 1/2 weeks that it is very unusual to have a net daily score or 0.  Not today.

    1   Laarsland   53
    2   ArchieBoy   50
    2   Otoxiep87   50
    4   BluesInTheBottle   20
    4   Del1962   20
    6   AmisVelo   19
    6   BicycleBoy   19
    8   Bminchow   4
    9   Search   3
    9   Shalgo   3
    11   DJSprtsch   2
    11   Yellow_Knight   2
    13   Koronin   1
    13   Northerner   1
    13   Pirate81   1
    16   Armchair_Cyclist   0
    16   BikeRacer33   0
    16   ChrisDK   0
    16   Comodoro   0
    16   Josedin   0
    16   Leadbelly   0
    16   Mellow_Velo   0
    16   Ray10   0
    16   Rote_Laterne   0
    16   SafeBet   0
    16   Scrool07   0
    16   Triley36   0
    28   Salvarani   -1
    29   JustSomeGuy   -2
    30   Googolplex   -17
       Collective_Wisdom   0


    Standings

    Search slips off the podium as we come into the final weekend

    1   AmisVelo   1561   0
    2   BluesInTheBottle   1536   1
    3   Del1962   1531   1
    4   Search   1527   -2
    5   Salvarani   1485   0
    6   JustSomeGuy   1484   -1
    7   BicycleBoy   1481   0
    8   Scrool07   1397   0
    9   Laarsland   1263   0
    10   Armchair_Cyclist   1175   0
    11   Koronin   1076   0
    12   Otoxiep87   1062   0
    13   Shalgo   991   0
    14   Northerner   986   0
    15   DJSprtsch   976   0
    16   ArchieBoy   971   2
    17   ChrisDK   929   -1
    18   Ray10   927   -1
    19   Googolplex   861   0
    20   Mellow_Velo   756   0
    21   Josedin   734   0
    22   Rote_Laterne   720   0
    23   Bminchow   718   0
    24   Triley36   705   0
    25   Yellow_Knight   684   0
    26   SafeBet   648   0
    27   Comodoro   547   0
    28   Pirate81   546   0
    29   BikeRacer33   528   0
    30   Leadbelly   516   0
       Collective_Wisdom   713   

    The top three teams should be able to expect a final bonus of 20 each for Roglic's collection of fluffy lions tomorrow, and if he is as high as most expect in the stage, they should be beyond the difference that Search might be able to make up from Bennett on Sunday.  But Uran has a very good chance of overtaking Yates for 30 points in the time trial, which brings Search back into contention.

    Other than Roglic, the top three also share Dumoulin (of course) and Van Garderen (!)

    Those that make the differences between the teams are
    Amis Velo
    PINOT Thibaut
    HERMANS Ben
    BUCHMANN Emanuel
    GIBBONS Ryan
    BOL Cees

    Blues in the Bottle
    (BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley)
    COQUARD Bryan
    JUNGELS Bob
    NIV Guy
    REZA Kévin

    Del1962
    PINOT Thibaut
    (BARDET Romain)
    MARTIN Daniel
    BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
    ELISSONDE Kenny

    So they all have some potential for minor points on Sunday, but nothing to pick between them tomorrow, I suspect.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #50 on: September 19, 2020, 17:16 »
    Right then, lets have an update  :D
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #51 on: September 19, 2020, 17:19 »
    Yeah, last night's speculation looks a bit awry now...
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #52 on: September 19, 2020, 18:05 »
    Ohh could come down to Bol V Le Coq
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #53 on: September 20, 2020, 00:32 »
    Stage 20

    This morning, the two teams with Pogacar were 5th and 6th, just one point apart, but seemed likely to be overhauled by the last remaining Roglic team below them and any difference between them would be of negligible importance.

    And then that happened.

    Green points

    The rule against typing 'and Dumoulin' applies again, for every team with 50 or more points.

    1   JustSomeGuy   132 (Pogacar, Mas)
    2   Salvarani   130 (Pogacar)
    3=   ChrisDK, Ray10   75 (Van Aert)
    5=   AmisVelo, BicycleBoy, BluesInTheBottle, Del1962   65
    9   Koronin   52 (Mas)
    10   Uran teams  51
    17   Dumoulin but no other top ten   50
    29   ArchieBoy   25
    30   Josedin   0
       Collective_Wisdom   51

    Standings

    Salvarani jumps 4 places today, but his only sprinter for tomorrow is Bol, who is most unlikely to make up the 39 points he lacks, and even if he did, Bol is also on Archie's team (as are Mezgec, Van Aert and Bol).  However, If Bennett is in the first two on the Champs, then the way is open for Search (or Laarsland, if Bennett wins and Mezgec is in the top four) to make a late challenge.

    1   ArchieBoy   637
    2   Salvarani   598
    3   Search   589
    4   Scrool07   585
    5   Laarsland   569
    6   ChrisDK   557
    7   Ray10   525
    8   JustSomeGuy   508
    9   Googolplex   462
    10   BluesInTheBottle   433


    Main Game

    Far more change than I think most of us expected


    POGACAR Tadej   282   2 teams
    DUMOULIN Tom   100   28
    VAN AERT Wout   35   3
    MAS NICOLAU Enric   32   2
    LANDA MEANA Mikel   30   1
    MARTIN Guillaume   10   2
    ---
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro   -30   1
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   -120   6
    ROGLIC Primoz   -135   4


    1   JustSomeGuy   416  (Pogacar, Dumoulin and Mas)
    2   Salvarani   395  (Pogacar, Dumoulin and Martin)
    3   ChrisDK   141 (Dumoulin and Van Aert)
    4   Ray10   135 (Dumoulin and Van Aert)
    5   Mellow_Velo   132  (Dumoulin and Landa)
    6   Leadbelly   112
    7   Comodoro   106
    8   Bminchow   104
    8   Koronin   104
    10   Rote_Laterne   103
    10   Shalgo   103
    10   Triley36   103
    13   BikeRacer33   102
    13   Googolplex   102
    13   Pirate81   102
    16   DJSprtsch   101
    17   Yellow_Knight   98
    18   SafeBet   97
    19   ArchieBoy   37
    20   Josedin   -1
    21   Armchair_Cyclist   -15
    22   Scrool07   -16
    23   Northerner   -17
    23   Search   -17
    25   Laarsland   -18
    25   Otoxiep87   -18
    27   AmisVelo   -33
    28   Del1962   -34
    29   BluesInTheBottle   -35
    30   BicycleBoy   -37
       Collective_Wisdom   104

    Standings

    An eleventh hour shake-up of what had looked almost settled, and we are left with a two horse race. The two Pogacar teams would have each moved up four places, except that Enric Mas gained a place from Lopez' disastrous TT, and that puts JSG in pole position rather than one behind.  As if to make up for Valverde falling out of the top ten, Koronin appears in it.

    1   JustSomeGuy   1900   5
    2   Salvarani   1880   3
    3   AmisVelo   1528   -2
    4   Search   1510   0
    5   BluesInTheBottle   1501   -3
    6   Del1962   1497   -3
    7   BicycleBoy   1444   0
    8   Scrool07   1381   0
    9   Laarsland   1245   0
    10   Koronin   1180   1
    11   Armchair_Cyclist   1160   -1
    12   Shalgo   1094   1
    13   DJSprtsch   1077   2
    14   ChrisDK   1070   3
    15   Ray10   1062   3
    16   Otoxiep87   1044   -4
    17   ArchieBoy   1008   -1
    18   Northerner   969   -4
    19   Googolplex   963   0
    20   Mellow_Velo   888   0
    21   Rote_Laterne   823   1
    22   Bminchow   822   1
    23   Triley36   808   1
    24   Yellow_Knight   782   1
    25   SafeBet   745   1
    26   Josedin   733   -5
    27   Comodoro   653   0
    28   Pirate81   648   0
    29   BikeRacer33   630   0
    30   Leadbelly   628   0
       Collective_Wisdom   817   

    Apart from Pogacar and Dumoulin, the top two both share Pinot and De Gendt.

    So the determining factor tomorrow will be the comparative performances of these quartets:

    Just Some Guy:
    BUCHMANN Emanuel
    COQUARD Bryan
    GIBBONS Ryan
    MAS NICOLAU Enric


    Salvarani:
    BOL Cees
    MARTIN Daniel
    MARTIN Guillaume
    ROLLAND Pierre


    So in essence, it is down to whether Bol can outscore Coquard tomorrow.  Van Aert and Ewan are poised to push Coquard down the Green jersey positions if they finish ahead of him, so it could be very tight.  If Sam Bennett gets the sort of result that is expected of him tomorrow, then Search should find himself on the podium.

    The numbers so far

    And those average scores for each forum: Velorooms 1095, Cycling News 1081.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #54 on: September 20, 2020, 07:19 »
    Oh la la
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #55 on: September 20, 2020, 12:42 »

    OK, this gets complicated, but stay with me.

    Coquard is currently credited with 25 points in the game for holding 4th place in the green jersey competition.  He cannot improve on that position, but could lose places, and he loses 10 points if one of them passes him, and 15 if both of them do.  Bol is not going to get any points in this game for the green classification.


    So Just Some Guy's advantage might be 20, 10 or 5 points.

    A win for Bol (stop laughing) would guarantee victory for Salvarani.

    These are all written as what Coquard would need to get to keep JSG in the lead
    If the margin is 20:
    Bol 2nd, Coq would need 3rd
    CB 3rd, BC needs 5th, which would make a tie
    CB 4th, BC 7th to make a tie
    and if Coquard retains those 20 points, there is nothing Cees Bol can do for Salvarani if he can't make the top 4.

    If the margin is 10:
    Bol 2nd, Salvarani wins (unless Coquard wins the stage)
    Bol 3rd/4th/5th, Coquard needs 4th/5th/6th for a tie
    Bol 6th, BC outside the top ten is a tie
    Bol 7th or lower, JSG is the champion

    If the margin is 5

    Bol in the top 4, Coquard would need to finish ahead of him
    Bol 5th/6th,  Coquard one place behind him would make a tie
    Bol 7th, a tie unless Coquard is in the top ten
    Bol lower than 7th is no use for Salvarani.


    If none of the relevant riders get points at the mid-race sprint, then Coquard's margin over Van Aert and Ewan is 13 and 15 points respectively: In that situation, the following paragraph applies.

    If van Aert or Ewan win, Coquard can't prevent them overtaking him, but he can hold either of them finishing second off by being in the top 4.  To stay ahead of Van Aert in 3rd/4th/5th/6th, Coquard needs 9th/11th/13th/15th.  If Ewan is 3rd 4th or 5th, Coquard needs 11th/13/15th to stay ahead of him.

    But if any of these three get points at the intermediate sprint, I'll have 5 laps left of the Champs to recalculate.

    And this being 2020, it may be that something else affects the scores.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #56 on: September 20, 2020, 14:43 »
    Ohh that is complicated and I am nervous
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #57 on: September 20, 2020, 17:29 »
    Int sprint done and I am confused :D
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #58 on: September 20, 2020, 17:36 »
    Much to my relief, the intermediate sprint has made no difference to the game calculations.  So the finishing positions (in the paragraph beginning "If Van Aert or Ewan win") hold good as the thing that determines how many points Salvarani is behind.  I don't need to do any more Maths until it is over.
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    Re: 2020 TdF CQ Game
    « Reply #59 on: September 20, 2020, 18:13 »
    Coquard looks to be low in the ten, Bol nowhere: I think JSG has won.
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