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Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2020, 01:24 »
Especially as Sunday's weather looks as if it is going to turn distinctly Northern European.

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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #32 on: September 24, 2020, 05:48 »
    Weather looks bad windy ITT up to 90 km gusts for the men.

    Rain on the weekend
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #33 on: September 24, 2020, 08:35 »
    hard course and difficult weather ... sounds fun  :D
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #34 on: September 24, 2020, 08:54 »
    Start list for the unofficial Women's U23 TT:



    • Gareeva won the junior TT title last year

    • Guazzini was third at the Italian Nats

    • Norsgaard is Danish :P

    • Labous, the French champion, is probably the favourite

    • Harvey is in good form
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #35 on: September 24, 2020, 09:53 »
    Start list for the unofficial Women's U23 TT:

    I've no idea what this is about, but I trust that Google will inform me.

    I was lamenting the fact that there's no Junior or U23 element to the this year's WC, for without either of those, how will we get a preview of next year's TdF winner?

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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #36 on: September 24, 2020, 09:57 »
    First question that comes to mind for me : is the course roughly the same as the 1968 one when Vittorio Adorni was World Champion?
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #37 on: September 24, 2020, 10:12 »
    First question that comes to mind for me : is the course roughly the same as the 1968 one when Vittorio Adorni was World Champion?

    no it's not, la Flamme Rouge has profiles for (almost?) all World Championships:

    1968: https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/168823
    2020: https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/380612

    So in 1968 they were using a circuit over the Tre Monti climb (like also in the Giro 2015, for example), this year it's a larger one, going over two different climbs. Just the first and final couple of kilometers are the same.
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #38 on: September 24, 2020, 12:53 »
    Search, how would you compare this course to Firenze, Ponferrada and Innsbrück?

    It looks a bit easier than Bergen - fewer laps means it is not so easy to get dizzy and celebrate with 1 lap remaining.  :)
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #39 on: September 24, 2020, 13:30 »
    hard to say, I would think the (likely) wet weather and steep climbs will make it pretty hard and selective. Maybe like Firenze, with some  punchy climbers fighting it out, but the puncheurs not finishing too far behind.

    In terms of total altitude change, it's more like Ponferrada, but back then Bouhanni almost made the group fighting for the win, so it was not that selective, and almost no action before the final lap.
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #40 on: September 24, 2020, 13:33 »
    Speaking of parcours, just how hard is it really?  Like Firenze or Ponferrada? Strong allrounders played a very important part there, I am not sure it has to be a climber.
    Short, steep climbs, many, many times - I'd say it's like a super-charged LBL. Something for the puncheurs who can recover very well - many of which also are pretty good climbers: Fuglsang, Nibali, Valverde ...
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #41 on: September 24, 2020, 16:19 »
    That crash of Chloe was bad, not so much for what you saw but the forces involved that would have flipping hurt
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #42 on: September 24, 2020, 16:34 »
    Start list for the unofficial Women's U23 TT:



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    1st - *dk Emma Cecilie Norsgaard

    2nd - *fr Juliette Labous

    3rd - *nz Mikayla Harvey
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #43 on: September 24, 2020, 16:43 »
    Start list for the unofficial Men's U23 TT:



    Leknessund the favourite. Competition from Bjerg and McNulty (though the American hasn't done much since the restart).
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #44 on: September 24, 2020, 20:16 »
    *no Leknessund is a good candidate for the U23unoffical, but I think he would have preferred a more undulating parcours. Perhaps all the curves in the later part may serve him well, but he tends to start hard and either break into pieces near the end or do really well. On the limit, towards the end, facing repeated accelrations?

    My favorite is Pogacar, he should get a supercompensation this weekend, and he is 22, so eligible - but not starting?

    That *hu Hungarian rider though, is a tough one to beat. Always on Peak form, they say.
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #45 on: September 24, 2020, 20:40 »
    My favorite is Pogacar, he should get a supercompensation this weekend, and he is 22, so eligible - but not starting?

    He's not on the start list according to First or PCS. Tratters is down to ride for Slovenia.
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #46 on: September 25, 2020, 03:05 »
    Hope Chloe Dygert is ok - that was a nasty crash at high speed
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #47 on: September 25, 2020, 10:42 »
    Hope Chloe Dygert is ok - that was a nasty crash at high speed
    She's expected to make a full recovery, USA Cycling said:
    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chloe-dygert-undergoes-surgery-to-repair-laceration-in-left-leg-after-worlds-crash/
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #48 on: September 26, 2020, 12:18 »
    He's not on the start list according to First or PCS. Tratters is down to ride for Slovenia.

    He is now.  :P

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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #49 on: September 26, 2020, 16:45 »
    The Dutch women predictably smoked their road race.



    Medal table after 3/4 events:
    Place Country #rainbow /sm /bm
    1 *nl Netherlands 2 1 1
    2 *it Italy 1 0 1
    3 *ch Switzerland 0 1 1
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #50 on: September 26, 2020, 17:50 »
    The Dutch women predictably smoked their road race.

    Is that code for "impressive but boring"?
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #51 on: September 26, 2020, 18:28 »
    Start list for the unofficial Men's U23 TT:



    :fanfare :fanfare :fanfare

    1st - *no Andreas Leknessund

    2nd - *dk Mikkel Bjerg

    3rd - *usa Brandon McNulty

    Pretty much as predicted.

    No unofficial U23 RR championships. It's all about the PCT, CT and club World Championship titles instead.
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #52 on: September 26, 2020, 18:42 »
    Is that code for "impressive but boring"?
    Kind of, to be honest.
    There was a bit "when will something happen?" suspense until the first climb of the penultimate lap when #teamnl Annemiek van Vleuten accelerated, dropping everyone except #teamit Elisa Longo Borghini, #teamdk Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig & #teamnl Anna van der Breggen - and then Van der Breggen counterattacked on that, and nobody was able to follow. By that point, the race for #rainbow was over.

    The chasers didn't want to pull Van Vleuten along and were caught by the peloton, then attacks on the final climb formed the AvV-ELB duo and the group behind them.
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #53 on: September 26, 2020, 18:46 »
    Just looking at those women's results made me think. Why are good female Belgian cyclists so lacking in number?

    Obviously on the men's side we are used to having some of the biggest names come from Belgium and it seems that every WT team worth it's salt has a couple of them kicking around. A win tomorrow would be no big surprise.

    Meanwhile over in the women's scene, how many Belgians are in the WT? One, that's right just one. Best placed rider today? That same one rider down in 50th at 14m01.

    Now there have been good Belgian riders in the past and the WT stat doesn't tell the full story as it's only 8 teams and there are more than a few Belgian riders and teams in the CT ranks, but the discrepancy between the two sexes just seems weird.

    What's going on here? It can't be genetic (obviously). Cultural? The women's sport developing differently? I need educating Fus!
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #54 on: September 26, 2020, 18:53 »
    to be fair, Kopecky looked pretty strong over the past weeks though, but decided to save herself for the upcoming classics, given the (probably too) hard course.

    I just noticed that Enrico Gasparotto, after 16 years as a pro, will start in his first World Championships tomorrow by the way. For #teamch Switzerland

    "It's a dream that comes true. I think this is a more unique than rare opportunity to give something back to a country that has given me a lot. I have lived in Lugano for many years, my wife is Swiss and so are many of my friends ».

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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #55 on: September 26, 2020, 21:26 »
    Just looking at those women's results made me think. Why are good female Belgian cyclists so lacking in number?
    Until we have 15 WWT teams, it's a bit unfair to only look at the 8 WWT teams. There's Jolien D'hoore on #boels and Lotte Kopecky on #lsl who are very much world class - while #fdj Demey is very much a domestique.

    I've had someone explain the situation with female cyclists in Belgium to me on Twitter once, but I can't find that now.

    In a nutshell: There's not much support for Belgian female cyclists in the youth categories.
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #56 on: September 27, 2020, 01:55 »
    To the extent that it's even possible, I'll be trying to keep an eye on  *si Jani Brajkovič #teamsi in the Men's Road Race.

    The only reason I say that is that he's been quite vocal over the past couple years in regards to the difficulty he's faced in terms of landing a contract with a team that he feels he's worthy of. He's had a chip on his shoulder about it, and I imagine that he sees the WC RR as a platform to earn some notoriety—especially with the obvious attention being paid to his national team due to the participation of Pogo and Rogo.

    That being said, he can also be quite whiny, so I very much expect to see him withdrawing early from the race with at least a few complaints to blame it on. But he might try to animate things prior to that. We will see...

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    FWIW, when a general Google search using only his name offered nothing even remotely related to the man I was looking for.
    Two more specific Google searches provided the following:
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    Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any image results.

    Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any news results.

    :shh


    Then there was this recently:

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    Jani Brajkovic has said the Slovenian National Championships had no safety measures to protect people against coronavirus.

    “It’s nice to have cycling event again in Slovenia,” Brajkovic wrote on Twitter following the time trial event. “But it would also be appropriate to take at least some safety measures…there were none.”

    Brajkovic, who now races for Continental team Adria Mobil, came fourth in both the men’s elite road race and time trial.

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    Brajkovic followed up his claims about the safety measures with a mysterious outburst an hour later, tweeting: “To whom it may concern: you can go f**k yourself in your empty brains.” The 36-year-old is yet to elaborate on this comment.
      :D

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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #57 on: September 27, 2020, 06:47 »
    FWIW, when a general Google search using only his name offered nothing even remotely related to the man I was looking for.
    Two more specific Google searches provided the following: :shh

    Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any image results.

    Your search - Jani Braković cyclist - did not match any news results.

    another "j" may be of help ;)

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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #58 on: September 27, 2020, 11:16 »
    another "j" may be of help ;)

    :fp  :fp  :fp  :fp 

    I'm such an idiot.  :D I had even double-checked that, and just to be careful, I had copy/pasted his name from somewhere without recognizing that the source had misspelled it.
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    Never mind.  :-x
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    Re: Imola 2020 World Road Cycling Championships
    « Reply #59 on: September 27, 2020, 15:35 »
    The Team Velorooms jersey wins!
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