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2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
« on: February 19, 2021, 01:14 »
With all available body parts folded that they actually happen, I hereby launch the Spring Classics game. 


Your team is to be made up of 12 riders, with a maximum total cost of 3000 CQ points during 2020 (you could use this page, setting the year to 2020, or download the 20201231.zip file from here), or try my selection spreadsheet poll here.


The races that will give points are the one day races in Europe from the Omloop to the Radklassiker, ie:

Date Race Point scale
27-Feb      Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite      1.UWT3
27-Feb      Faun-Ardèche Classic      1.PS
28-Feb      Kuurne - Bruxelles - Kuurne      1.PS
28-Feb      Royal Bernard Drome Classic      1.PS
03-Mar      Trofeo Laigueglia      1.PS
06-Mar      Strade Bianche      1.UWT3
07-Mar      GP Industria & Artigianato      1.PS
17-Mar      Danilith Nokere Koerse      1.PS
19-Mar      Bredene Koksijde Classic      1.PS
20-Mar      Milano-Sanremo      1.UWT1
24-Mar      Oxyclean Classic Brugge-De Panne      1.UWT3
26-Mar      E3 Saxo Bank Classic      1.UWT2
28-Mar      Gent-Wevelgem in Flanders Fields      1.UWT2
31-Mar      Dwars door Vlaanderen - A travers la Flandre      1.UWT3
03-Apr      Gran Premio Miguel Indurain      1.PS
04-Apr      Ronde van Vlaanderen - Tour des Flandres      1.UWT1
07-Apr      Scheldeprijs      1.PS
11-Apr      Paris-Roubaix      1.UWT1
14-Apr      De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne      1.PS
18-Apr      Amstel Gold Race      1.UWT2
21-Apr      La Flèche Wallonne      1.UWT2
25-Apr      Liège-Bastogne-Liège      1.UWT1
01-May      Eschborn-Frankfurt      1.UWT3
CQ has Loire-Atlantique and GP Cholet down as 1.PS races, but PCS, UCI and the races' own websites all have them as 1.1: if it turns out that CQ is correct, I will include them, as I will the GP de Denain if it is uncancelled.

Point scale (full version here)
Rank 1st 2nd 3rd 10th last to get >5 pts To get 5 pts
UWT1      280      170      145      62      30th      all finishers
UWT2      220      132      112      46      30th      all finishers
UWT3      180      108      92      36      25th      all finishers
PS      130      78      66      24      20th      top 30

Send your team to me by PM on Cycling News or Velorooms by the flag dropping in the Omloop (its website still doesn't have a timetable, assume about 11am West Europe time) on Saturday 27th Feb.  As ever, please try to send the CQ version of riders' names, and do not put anything else on the same line.  I have sent my team to Comodoro, the first manager to send in their team.

Note the optimism in the thread title: I'm hanging on to the hope of Classics in the Spring.  If fewer than 15 of these actually take place, I will aim to do something similar to last year and have a "Classics at some point in the year" redux version.

Any questions? Just ask.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #1 on: February 24, 2021, 23:20 »
    I hope teams will come in a rush in the last 2 1/2 days: please remember that this game starts on a Saturday, not a Sunday.


    Of the eight teams in so far, all have at least 2 unique picks, and 55 riders have been chosen.  Two of them are on 6 teams, and 2 on 4.



    It occurred to me that I have never established a rule in this game for what happens if a team is over budget and not changed before the deadline.  I shall remove the cheapest riders that solve the problem, and make up the team with whoever is picked (on at least one other team in the race) that is allowable.   

    So if a team has a total of 3050, and the cheapest rider costs 55 points, I will remove him, and replace him with the highest priced rider who cost 5 points or less (and if there are 2 at the same price, the first of them alphabetically).

    If the team total is 3080, and the cheapest two cost 30 and 55 points, I will remove and replace them with a 5 point cost rider and a zero, or a 4 and a one if there is no 5, etc.

    If the team cost is 3080, and the cheapest 2 cost 30 and 85, I will leave the 30 point rider in, and replace the 85 with a 5 point man (subject to the above).


    But it is very rare that this happens, and I am usually able to alert managers in time if there is a problem.   And if you use the selection tool download that I have now added to the OP, it shouldn't happen at all.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #2 on: February 25, 2021, 07:36 »
    Team JSG is in
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #3 on: February 26, 2021, 20:03 »
    Del over at CN forum reported a problem opening the selection spreadsheet, so I have removed the file from Google Drive and moved it back, which hopefully fixes it.  The location may have changed:  now ​here.​​​


    I haven't got time to look up the exact start time of the Omloop tomorrow, so let's call it 12 noon UK (also 1200 GMT/UTC) as a deadline.


    So if you are in Europe and you are planning a lie in or a morning ride for your Saturday, better get your team in tonight.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #4 on: February 26, 2021, 20:34 »
    I managed to compose a team.
    Good luck to all.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #5 on: February 27, 2021, 16:07 »
    So here we go: a slightly disappointing 22 teams, but with lots of bargains we could be in for some big scores this year, so long as the races take place.

    Teams
    Alphabetical order of teams, price order of riders, unique picks with an asterisk.

    Amis Velo

       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       TRENTIN Matteo   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       MOSCON Gianni   
       JORGENSON Matteo   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
       VANSEVENANT Mauri   


    Armchair Cyclist

       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       POLITT Nils   
       SARREAU Marc   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       MOSCON Gianni   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   


    Blues in the Bottle

       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       STUYVEN Jasper   
       TEUNS Dylan   
       VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       DEWULF Stan   *
       GOGL Michael   *
       POLITT Nils   
       VAN DER HOORN Taco   *
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       VAN DEN BERG Julius   *
       VANSEVENANT Mauri   


    Bminchow
       SAGAN Peter   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       WELLENS Tim   
       TRENTIN Matteo   
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       THEUNS Edward   
       BATTISTELLA Samuele   *
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       PIDCOCK Thomas   
       BRENNER Marco   


    ChrisDK
       LAMPAERT Yves   *
       STUYVEN Jasper   
       MERLIER Tim   *
       TURGIS Anthony   
       DRUCKER Jempy   
       HOFSTETTER Hugo   
       VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael   
       HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose   *
       NEILANDS Krists   *
       JORGENSON Matteo   
       VANSEVENANT Mauri   
       NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias   


    Comodoro
       PEDERSEN Mads   
       WOODS Michael   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       POELS Wout   *
       GILBERT Philippe   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       RUTSCH Jonas   *
       JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
       HAVIK Piotr   
       REYNDERS Jens   


    Del1962
       SAGAN Peter   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       COLBRELLI Sonny   *
       NAESEN Oliver   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   *
       JUNGELS Bob   
       MOSCON Gianni   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   *
       OSS Daniel   
       ARNDT Nikias   *
       PIDCOCK Thomas   


    DJSprtsch
       PEDERSEN Mads   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       LUTSENKO Alexey   
       COQUARD Bryan   *
       TURGIS Anthony   
       VIVIANI Elia   *
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       DE BUYST Jasper   *
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       LAWLESS Christopher   
       SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias   


    Googolplex
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       WOODS Michael   
       DRUCKER Jempy   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       POLITT Nils   
       DEKKER David   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       PIDCOCK Thomas   
       LAWLESS Christopher   
       HENTTALA Joonas   *


    Josedin***
       PEDERSEN Mads   
       SENECHAL Florian   *
       ASGREEN Kasper   *
       BALLERINI Davide   
       DEVENYNS Dries   *
       TURGIS Anthony   
       BRENNER Marco   
       HAVIK Piotr   
       HERMANS Quinten   
       NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias   
       REYNDERS Jens   
       SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias   


    Just Some Guy
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       WELLENS Tim   
       BARDET Romain   *
       THEUNS Edward   
       POLITT Nils   
       PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
       PIDCOCK Thomas   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
       HERMANS Quinten   
       REYNDERS Jens   


    Kazistuta
       SAGAN Peter   
       MADOUAS Valentin   *
       TEUNS Dylan   
       TRENTIN Matteo   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
       BOL Cees   *
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       MOSCON Gianni   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       VANSEVENANT Mauri   


    Leadbelly
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       MATTHEWS Michael   *
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       LIVYNS Arjen   
       POLITT Nils   
       ROWE Luke   *
       DEKKER David   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       MOSCON Gianni   
       PIDCOCK Thomas   
       JORGENSON Matteo   
       VANSEVENANT Mauri   


    Madrazo
        VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       STUYVEN Jasper   
       BALLERINI Davide   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
       HOFSTETTER Hugo   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       GILBERT Philippe   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       TERPSTRA Niki   


    Mellow Velo
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       WELLENS Tim   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       TURGIS Anthony   
       GILBERT Philippe   
       JUNGELS Bob   
       THEUNS Edward   
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       VANSEVENANT Mauri   
       DEBUSSCHERE Jens   *
       HERMANS Quinten   


    Otoxiep87
       ALAPHILIPPE Julian   
       BENOOT Tiesj   *
       NAESEN Oliver   
       BISSEGGER Stefan   *
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       THEUNS Edward   
       LIVYNS Arjen   
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       MOSCON Gianni   
       PIDCOCK Thomas   
       JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   


    Ray10
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       ANDERSEN Søren Kragh   *
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       GILBERT Philippe   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       CALMEJANE Lilian   *
       POLITT Nils   
       DEKKER David   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       PIDCOCK Thomas   
       HIVERT Jonathan   *
       EIKING Odd Christian   *


    Rote Laterne
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       GILBERT Philippe   
       THEUNS Edward   
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       HALVORSEN Kristoffer   *
       JANSEN Amund Grøndahl   
       PETIT Adrien   *
       LANGEVELD Sebastian   *


    Scrooll07
       SAGAN Peter   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       WELLENS Tim   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       VERMEERSCH Florian   *
       TEUNISSEN Mike   *
       PLANCKAERT Baptiste   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       VERMAERKE Kevin   *
       PICCOLO Andrea   *
       VERSCHAEVE Viktor   *


    Search
       WOODS Michael   
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       WELLENS Tim   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       GARCIA CORTINA Ivan   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       LAPORTE Christophe   
       BOASSON HAGEN Edvald   *
       POLITT Nils   
       SARREAU Marc   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       KREUZIGER Roman   *


    SemirS
       VAN AVERMAET Greg   
       WELLENS Tim   
       BETTIOL Alberto   
       TRENTIN Matteo   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       STYBAR Zdenek   
       GILBERT Philippe   
       THEUNS Edward   
       DILLIER Silvan   *
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       OSS Daniel   


    Triley
       PEDERSEN Mads   
       BETTIOL Alberto   
       DEGENKOLB John   
       TRENTIN Matteo   
       NAESEN Oliver   
       MOHORIC Matej   *
       GILBERT Philippe   
       POLITT Nils   
       VANMARCKE Sep   
       JORGENSON Matteo   
       TERPSTRA Niki   
       DE PLUS Laurens   *


    Josedin didn't actually pick half of that team, but was well over budget.  So much so that even I as the legislator was unsure how the rules I set out above applied.  But on taking out the six cheapest riders brought the team cost down to 2997, and although there were no 1, 2 or 3 pointers chosen, there were 6 freebies, so I put those in: I think that is the implication of what I described.  The alternative would have been to remove the cheapest rider who cost more than the excess spend, and substitute in the most expensive selected rider with the remaining budget.  I offered Josedin the choice, but haven't heard back yet.  The alternative is in the spreadsheet as JosedinB.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #6 on: February 27, 2021, 17:21 »
    Riders

    Sorted by number of teams
    18:   POLITT Nils, VANMARCKE Sep
    13:   VAN AVERMAET Greg
    12:   NAESEN Oliver
    8:   LAPORTE Christophe
    7:   GILBERT Philippe, JUNGELS Bob, PIDCOCK Thomas, STYBAR Zdenek
    6:   JANSEN Amund Grøndahl, MOSCON Gianni, TERPSTRA Niki, THEUNS Edward, VAN DER POEL Mathieu, VANSEVENANT Mauri, WELLENS Tim

    The collective team will consist of the nine riders on at least 7 teams, plus 3/7 of the total of the seven riders on 6 teams.  That comes in quite a bit below 3000 points, but any combination of the 6 without MvdP was much lower, and any with him was over.

    5:   TRENTIN Matteo
    4:   ALAPHILIPPE Julian, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan, JORGENSON Matteo, PEDERSEN Mads, SAGAN Peter, TURGIS Anthony
    3:   DEKKER David, HERMANS Quinten, REYNDERS Jens, STUYVEN Jasper, WOODS Michael
    2:   BALLERINI Davide, BETTIOL Alberto, BRENNER Marco, DEGENKOLB John, DRUCKER Jempy, HAVIK Piotr, HOFSTETTER Hugo, LAWLESS Christopher, LIVYNS Arjen, LUTSENKO Alexey, NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias, OSS Daniel, PLANCKAERT Baptiste,
    SARREAU Marc, SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias, TEUNS Dylan, VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #7 on: February 27, 2021, 23:54 »
    Josedin has asked to take option B, so he gets his cheap picks back and loses a unique pick in Kasper Asgreen and receives (not his choice) Bob Jungels.

    His team is now:
    PEDERSEN Mads   
    SENECHAL Florian   *
    JUNGELS Bob   
    BALLERINI Davide   
    DEVENYNS Dries   *
    TURGIS Anthony   
    LIVYNS Arjen   
    POLITT Nils   
    DEKKER David   
    VANMARCKE Sep   
    PIDCOCK Thomas   
    VANSEVENANT Mauri   

    That means that BRENNER Marco, HAVIK Piotr, NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias, SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias become unique picks for Bminchow, Comodoro, ChrisDK and DJSprtsch respectively.  It also means that Vansevanant moves into the Collective Wisdom team in his own right, and the remainder of the score is 1/3 of the total of the remaining six men on six teams.

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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #8 on: February 28, 2021, 01:52 »
    Team popularity

    rank Team Popularity Unique picks members of Coll Wisdom
    1      AmisVelo      111      0      7
    2      Armchair      110      0      8
    3      Madrazo      102      0      7
    4      SemirS      99      1      7
    5      RoteLaterne      98      3      7
    6      MellowVelo      97      1      7
    7      Search      95      2      6
    8      Bminchow      94      2      6
    9      Otoxiep87      93      2      6
    10      Leadbelly      89      2      5
    11      Kazistuta      86      2      5
    12      Googolplex      85      1      6
    13      Comodoro      84      3      5
    14      Ray10      82      4      6
    14      Triley36      82      2      4
    16      Josedin      80      2      5
    17      JustSomeGuy      77      1      5
    18      DJSprtsch      75      4      4
    19      Blues_in_the_Bottle      70      4      4
    20      Scrool07      63      5      3
    21      Del1962      59      4      4
    22      ChrisDK      29      5      1
          CollectiveWisdom      120      0      12

    There is a tab for the similarity of teams (whence the final column above).  Armchair and Amis Velo share 8 riders, and the following combinations share 7:
    Amis Velo and Kazistuta
    Armchair and Madrazo
    Armchair and Otoxiep
    Armchair and Search
    Madrazo and Search
    Rote Laterne and SemirS

    while there are no less than 11 teams with which ChrisDK's selection has nothing in common, any pair of teams that does not include ChrisDK has at least one overlap.


    When the spreadsheet is put up, you will see that there are columns and placeholders for a "So Last Year" team, and scores of riders in this set of races last year.  I thought I had calculated these, but mistakes came to light, so I am ignoring that for this year, but keeping the facility in the spreadsheet, because I will reuse the formatting next year.

    And when you see the spreadsheet (I will put up the link after I have processed today's races, but that will have to wait for tomorrow), you will notice several columns consisting purely of commas: that is so that I can produce tables here.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #9 on: February 28, 2021, 12:24 »
    Major Purchases

    Even in the year following 2020, while so many riders are available at ridiculously low prices, the riders who we spend most on are a major part of what makes for success or failiure in the game.  So the picks of more than 500 points that we have are:

    Van der Poel with Kragh: Ray10
       with GvA: Amis Velo, JSG, Rote Laterne
       with Stuyven: Blues in the Bottle
       only: Mellow Velo
          
    Alaphilippe with Woods: Googolplex
       with Matthews and GvA: Leadbelly
       with Benoot: Otoxiep87
       with GvA: Armchair
          
    Sagan with GvA: Bminchow, Scrooll, Del
       only: Kazistuta
          
    Pedersen   with Senechal: Josedin   
       with Woods and GvA: Comodoro
       with GvA: DJSprtsch
       only: Triley36
          
    Woods with GvA: Search

    Lampaert with Stuyven: ChrisDK

    GvA with Stuyven: Madrazo
       only: SemirS

    And for the same reason that rare picks are noteworthy, rare misses might be too: JSG didn't select Vanmarcke, Scrooll overlooked Politt, and both Del and ChrisDK decided against both of those very popular picks.
     
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #10 on: February 28, 2021, 13:15 »
    So finally we actually get to the races.  I'll start with the simpler of yesterday's events:

    Race 1; Ardeche Classic

    Jonathan Hivert came 9th, scoring 28 CQ points for the only manager who picked him, Ray 10.
    He was the only rider in the first 30, the point scorers, selected for the game.

    errrm, standings
    Ray10   28
    Everyone else   0


    In the Green Jersey competition, there are just as many points available in a 1.Pro race like this as there are in the monuments.  Points are distributed as CQ points are for a stage in the Tour de France: 80 for the winner, then 50, 35, 25, 15 down to 1 for 10th: points for a shared position are shared.  A manager's position in each race is the total of all his scorers.

    So here Ray would get 80 points for winning, and everyone else would get 6.95 ( a 1/21 share of the total points 2nd to 10th).  To keep the numbers a bit neater, I will take 6.95 off everybody, including Ray, who thereby has a 73.05 to 0 lead over the field.

    You don't really need to see that on a table do you?
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #11 on: February 28, 2021, 14:34 »
    Sep wasn't a miss FWIW a conscious decision :lol
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #12 on: February 28, 2021, 14:44 »
    Race 2: Omloop het Nieuwsblad

    Riders picked for the game
    Race Pos'n Pts Teams
    1      BALLERINI Davide      180      2 (Josedin and Madrazo)
    3      VANMARCKE Sep      92      19
    5      GILBERT Philippe      70      7
    7      SENECHAL Florian      54      1 (Josedin)
    8      TRENTIN Matteo      46      5
    10      POLITT Nils      36      19
    11      GARCIA CORTINA Ivan      30      4
    13      LAPORTE Christophe      24      8
    14      DILLIER Silvan      22      1
    15      TURGIS Anthony      20      4
    16      COQUARD Bryan      18      1
    19      NAESEN Oliver      12      12
    23      ANDERSEN Søren Kragh      8      1
    24      WELLENS Tim      7      6
    and 26 other riders chosen for the game get 5 points for finishing.

    Rank Team Points Main scorersGreen pts
    1      Madrazo      464      Ballerini/Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Politt/Garcia      80
    2      Josedin      397   Ballerini/Vanmarcke/Senechal/Politt         50
    3      SemirS      305         Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Trentin/Politt   35
    4      Triley36      266      Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Trentin/Politt      25
    5      MellowVelo      247            15
    6      Comodoro      242            10
    7      Ray10      240            4
    7      RoteLaterne      240            4
    9      Kazistuta      231            2
    10      Bminchow      226            1
    11      Search      216            
    12      AmisVelo      206            
    13      DJSprtsch      200            
    14      Otoxiep87      199            
    15      Armchair      194            
    16      Googolplex      172            
    17      Blues_in_the_Bottle      153            
    17      Leadbelly      153            
    19      Scrool07      116            
    20      JustSomeGuy      73            
    21      ChrisDK      40            
    22      Del1962      32            
          CollectiveWisdom      258         

    In overall standings, Ray10 is 4th with 268, and everyone else is as they appear here (but one place lower for those 4th to 7th in this list)

    And similarly, on Green points, Ray is second with 77.05, and everyone else's total is as here.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #13 on: February 28, 2021, 17:41 »
    Race 3: Drome Classic

    He's only gone and done it again: another UP for Ray 10 is the only scorer.
    Odd Christian Eiking gets 5 points for 21st place, and Ray gets those 5 main game points and 73.05 green points again.

    Standings:
    (no real change, but a chance to test changes in the spreadsheet)
    Rank Team Points
    1      Madrazo      464
    2      Josedin      397
    3      SemirS      305
    5      Triley36      266
    6      MellowVelo      247
    7      Comodoro      242
    4      Ray10      273
    8      RoteLaterne      240
    9      Kazistuta      231
    10      Bminchow      226
    11      Search      216
    12      AmisVelo      206
    13      DJSprtsch      200
    14      Otoxiep87      199
    15      Armchair      194
    16      Googolplex      172
    17      Blues_in_the_Bottle      153
    17      Leadbelly      153
    19      Scrool07      116
    20      JustSomeGuy      73
    21      ChrisDK      40
    22      Del1962      32
          CollectiveWisdom      258

    Green points
    Ray seems to have found a profitable policy of getting the points on minor races
    1 Ray10 150.1
    2      Madrazo   80
    3      Josedin   50
    4      SemirS   35
    5      Triley36   25
    6      MellowVelo   15
    7      Comodoro   10
    8      RoteLaterne   4
    9      Kazistuta   2
    10      Bminchow   1

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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #14 on: February 28, 2021, 21:37 »
    Race 4: Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne

    Race Pos'n Pts Teams
    1      PEDERSEN Mads      130      4
    2      TURGIS Anthony      78      4
    3      PIDCOCK Thomas      66      8
    4      TRENTIN Matteo      58      5
    6      COLBRELLI Sonny      46      1
    7      POLITT Nils      40      19
    8      VAN AVERMAET Greg      34      13
    12      VAN DER POEL Mathieu      18      6
    15      JANSEN Amund Grøndahl      12      6
    16      NAESEN Oliver      10      12
    17      DEGENKOLB John      9      2
    19      LIVYNS Arjen      7      3
    21      BENOOT Tiesj      5      1
    22      STUYVEN Jasper      5      3
    27      GOGL Michael      5      1
    28      ANDERSEN Søren Kragh      5      1
    30      TEUNS Dylan      5      2

    Josedin got the entire podium (solution B to his being overbudget was definitely a good idea)
    This race Main scorers Green points
    1      Josedin      321   Pedersen/Turgis/Pidcock/Politt      80
    2      DJSprtsch      282   Pedersen/Turgis/Politt/van Avermaet         50
    3      Triley36      247   Pedersen/Trentin/Politt      35
    4      Comodoro      216   Pedersen/Politt/van Avermaet         25
    5      Bminchow      198   Pidcock/Trentin/Politt/van Avermaet   15
    6      AmisVelo      172            10
    7      JustSomeGuy      170            5
    8      Del1962      156            3
    9      Leadbelly      147            2
    10      MellowVelo      146            1
    11      SemirS      142            
    12      Otoxiep87      140            
    13      Ray10      129            
    14      RoteLaterne      114            
    15      Kazistuta      113            
    16      Googolplex      106            
    17      Armchair      96            
    18      Madrazo      89            
    19      Search      84            
    20      ChrisDK      83            
    21      Blues_in_the_Bottle      73            
    22      Scrool07      53            
          CollectiveWisdom      160         

    Green Jersey
    Green points change in rank
    1      Ray10      150.1      0
    2      Josedin      130      1
    3      Madrazo      80      -1
    4      Triley36      60      1
    5      DJSprtsch      50      6
    6      Comodoro      35      1
    6      SemirS      35      -2
    8      Bminchow      16      2
    8      MellowVelo      16      -2
    10      AmisVelo      10      1
    11      JustSomeGuy      5      0
    12      RoteLaterne      4      -4
    13      Del1962      3      -2
    14      Leadbelly      2      -3
    14      Kazistuta      2      -5
    16      The rest      0      -5

    Standings

    Rank Team Points Change in rank
    1      Josedin      718      1
    2      Madrazo      553      -1
    3      Triley36      513      2
    4      DJSprtsch      482      9
    5      Comodoro      458      2
    6      SemirS      447      -3
    7      Bminchow      424      3
    8      Ray10      402      -4
    9      MellowVelo      393      -3
    10      AmisVelo      378      2
    11      RoteLaterne      354      -3
    12      Kazistuta      344      -3
    13      Otoxiep87      339      1
    14      Leadbelly      300      3
    14      Search      300      -3
    16      Armchair      290      -1
    17      Googolplex      278      -1
    18      JustSomeGuy      243      2
    19      Blues_in_the_Bottle      226      -2
    20      Del1962      188      2
    21      Scrool07      169      -2
    22      ChrisDK      123      -1
          CollectiveWisdom      418   

    I wish Le Samyn on Tuesday were a 1.Pro race so that I could include it here, but instead the next instalment will be Laigueglia on Wednesday.  That usually happens outside the timeframe of this game, so it is unusual to be including it.  Ray 10 will probably have a unique pick in the startlist somewhere.
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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #15 on: February 28, 2021, 22:23 »
    And after 4 events, the state of the battle of the forums is


    CN Forumites (Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Comodoro, Del1962, DJSprtsch, Googolplex, Kazistuta, Madrazo, Ray10, Scrooll07, SemirS, Triley36)  374
    Team Velorooms (AmisVelo, ChrisDK, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, MellowVelo, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne, Search) 350

    And the spreadsheet is to be found, hopefully, here.

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    Re: 2021 Spring Classics CQ Game
    « Reply #16 on: March 03, 2021, 22:12 »
    Race 5   Trofeo Laigueglia

    One of the keys to this game is the balance between cobbled specialists and those for the hilly races.  If many people had been aiming for big scorers in the Ardennes, we might have seen more points here today.

    Those relevant to the game:
    Race Pos'n Pts Teams
    3      VANSEVENANT Mauri      66      7
    12      MADOUAS Valentin      18      1
    15      DEVENYNS Dries      12      1
    16      MOHORIC Matej      10      1

    I'll take out the column for which riders yielded the points: it can easily be worked out.  This time I did give the large number of low scorers some decimal shrapnel of remaining points.
    This race Green points
    1      Kazistuta      84      80
    2      Josedin      78      50
    3      AmisVelo      66      18
    3      Blues_in_the_Bottle      66      18
    3      ChrisDK      66      18
    3      Leadbelly      66      18
    3      MellowVelo      66      18
    8      Triley36      10      3
    9      The rest   0      0.21
          CollectiveWisdom      66         

    Green Jersey
    Green points change in rank
    1      Josedin      180      1
    2      Ray10      150.31      -1
    3      Kazistuta      82      11
    4      Madrazo      80.21      -1
    5      Triley36      63      -1
    6      DJSprtsch      50.21      -1
    7      Comodoro      35.21      -1
    7      SemirS      35.21      -1
    9      MellowVelo      34      -1
    10      AmisVelo      28      0
    11      Leadbelly      20      3
    12      Blues_in_the_Bottle      18      4
    12      ChrisDK      18      4
    14      Bminchow      16.21      -6
    15      JustSomeGuy      5.21      -4
    16      RoteLaterne      4.21      -4
    17      Del1962      3.21      -4
    18      Armchair      0.21      -2
    18      Googolplex      0.21      -2
    18      Otoxiep87      0.21      -2
    18      Scrool07      0.21      -2
    18      Search      0.21      -2


    Standings
    Rank Team Points Change in rank
    1      Josedin      796      0
    2      Madrazo      553      0
    3      Triley36      523      0
    4      DJSprtsch      482      0
    5      MellowVelo      459      4
    6      Comodoro      458      -1
    7      SemirS      447      -1
    8      AmisVelo      444      2
    9      Kazistuta      428      3
    10      Bminchow      424      -3
    11      Ray10      402      -3
    12      Leadbelly      366      2
    13      RoteLaterne      354      -2
    14      Otoxiep87      339      -1
    15      Search      300      -1
    16      Blues_in_the_Bottle      292      3
    17      Armchair      290      -1
    18      Googolplex      278      -1
    19      JustSomeGuy      243      -1
    20      ChrisDK      189      2
    21      Del1962      188      -1
    22      Scrool07      169      -1
          CollectiveWisdom      484   


    Less than a point between the forums:
    CN  387.0         VR 387.8


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