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Tour de Romandie
« on: April 26, 2021, 09:40 »
Tour de Romandie

April 27th to May 2nd

After a year off because of the pandemic, the Tour de Romandie returns with (more or less) the course it had initially planed for 2020 - and it's an unusually tough one:




Initially stage 1 was supposed to be used as a 2020 World Championships dress rehearsel, but for somewhat reason they use a different circuit around Martigny now. It's easier, but those two short climbs in quick concession should still be too tough for most sprinters, I guess.

And if not, Stage 3 definitely is. Up and down all day, and of the pretty mountainous kind




After some potential Albasini-like sprint win on stage 4, the peloton heads towards Sion for the biggest challenge of the race:



Thyon 2000 is an absolut monster of a climb, probably unseen so far in the history of the Tour de Romandie:





On the final day, the race ends as it started, with a short time trial. It's an interesting, very technical one, though, with some little climbs, including the steep, cobbled Chemin de Lorette





Same as last time, the organizers have invited the #teamch Swiss National Team to spice things up, and will be happy to see that #uae Marc Hirschi has meanwhile found his legs. He actually could win all hilly stages. And also for the time trials, the home nation is very well positioned with #groupama Stefan Küng, #ef Stefan Bissegger and also #cofidis Tom Bohli all lined up to start:



For the GC it's a bit different story, with not so many big names participating. #movistar Miguel Angel Lopez is probably the one best suited for the big climb, but he just returns from a long break due to injury and a covid infection, resulting in #ineos Ineos and #jumbo Jumbo more likely to fight it out for the overall win.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #1 on: April 27, 2021, 08:41 »
    here's the ~pdf starting order for today's prologue. Swiss TV probably won't be happy with Küng and Bissegger getting off the ramp this early.

    I guess they were hoping for some kind of weather advantage, but at the moment conditions look stable:



    There are unlikely to be many more dry days this week, though. Maybe Friday
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #2 on: April 27, 2021, 11:36 »
     I have been keeping a weather eye out too and wondering about how it's going to effect Saturday.
    I will be keeping my fingers and toes crossed that there is no white stuff falling....
    I also noticed that Küng and Bissegger would both just miss out on the live coverage, although if they really hurry, they might just catch Küng's finish.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #3 on: April 27, 2021, 12:57 »
    yeah, maybe just. Küng did a recon in advance, by the way, and said he is perfectly prepared. Not sure if Bissegger as well, but both should be able to challenge the #rainbow #rainbow duo at Ineos, I guess
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #4 on: April 27, 2021, 18:54 »
    no chance for either of them in the end. #ineos bossed it

    RANK   NAME INT      INT -> FIN    FIN
    1 #ineos DENNIS Rohan 2:48.98 (02.)    <- 2:37.69 (02.) ->    5:26.67
    2 #ineos THOMAS Geraint 2:54.47 (24.)    <- 2:40.67 (03.) ->    5:35.14
    3 #ineos PORTE Richie 2:57.87 (60.)    <- 2:37.65 (01.) ->    5:35.52
    4 #deceuninck CAVAGNA Remi 2:45.79 (01.)    <- 2:51.57 (25.) ->    5:37.36
    5 #ef BISSEGGER Stefan 2:49.48 (03.)    <- 2:48.37 (10.) ->    5:37.85
    6 #bahrain TRATNIK Jan 2:55.92 (40.)    <- 2:43.45 (05.) ->    5:39.37
    7 #cofidis HERRADA Jesus 2:55.26 (32.)    <- 2:45.18 (06.) ->    5:40.44
    8 #uae HIRSCHI Marc 2:58.62 (68.)    <- 2:42.40 (04.) ->    5:41.02
    9 #ineos GANNA Filippo 2:52.66 (13.)    <- 2:48.40 (11.) ->    5:41.06
    9 #deceuninck CATTANEO Mattia 2:50.63 (06.)    <- 2:50.43 (20.) ->    5:41.06
    11 #bora KELDERMAN Wilco 2:49.86 (04.)    <- 2:52.38 (31.) ->    5:42.24
    12 #dsm van WILDER Ilan 2:50.57 (05.)    <- 2:51.84 (27.) ->    5:42.41
    13 #jumbo KUSS Sepp 2:53.92 (21.)    <- 2:48.86 (12.) ->    5:42.78
    14 #groupama KUNG Stefan 2:50.77 (07.)    <- 2:52.51 (34.) ->    5:43.28
    15 #ef NIELSEN Magnus Cort 2:54.80 (27.)    <- 2:49.16 (13.) ->    5:43.96
    16 #israel BEVIN Patrick 2:53.23 (15.)    <- 2:51.00 (22.) ->    5:44.23
    17 #deceuninck ČERNY Josef 2:56.38 (45.)    <- 2:47.86 (08.) ->    5:44.24
    18 #uae COSTA Rui 2:57.46 (55.)    <- 2:47.88 (09.) ->    5:45.34
    19 #astana LUTSENKO Alexey 2:53.24 (16.)    <- 2:52.22 (30.) ->    5:45.46
    20 #movistar LOPEZ Miguel Angel 2:53.54 (18.)    <- 2:51.95 (28.) ->    5:45.49
    21 #bahrain HAIG Jack 2:55.63 (36.)    <- 2:50.04 (16.) ->    5:45.67
    22 #jumbo MARTIN Tony 2:54.63 (25.)    <- 2:52.19 (29.) ->    5:46.82
    22 #ineos DOULL Owain 2:50.77 (7.)    <- 2:56.05 (53.) ->    5:46.82
    24 #astana IZAGUIRRE Ion 2:57.43 (52.)    <- 2:49.70 (14.) ->    5:47.13
    25 #dsm ARENSMAN Thymen 2:57.02 (48.)    <- 2:50.28 (18.) ->    5:47.30
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #5 on: April 27, 2021, 22:34 »
    Short comment to the results above: #jumbo Kuss ahead of #champeu #groupama Küng is the bomb here, isn't it?

    #ef Bisegger also seems to be no one-hit wonderboy. The swiss TT nationals will be a prestigeous victory for whoever can win it. 
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #6 on: April 27, 2021, 22:45 »
    Froome 130th of 140...

    Hirschi - 8th and hitting form
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #7 on: April 28, 2021, 21:00 »
    Back to to the "Where is Sagan" quiz again. Without the rainbow jersey he's much easier to hide until .... oopsies there he is, just on the perfect wheel (Colbrelli's) before the sprint. I don't know how many sprints Colbrelli lost just like that, but judging by his reactions, it must be quite a few now. Building a trampoline in the garden has so far not put more spring into his accelration.

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #8 on: May 01, 2021, 16:59 »
     Here's Mister Icicle Fingers post crash, sorry stage interview.


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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #9 on: May 02, 2021, 08:07 »
    nice setting there. At least he seems to be okay

    The GC is now much closer than what I expected, gaps weren't that big on the climb yesterday, among the top contenders. Top 9 still within a ~minute:

    RANK NAME
    1      #yellow   WOODS Michael      
    2      #ineos   THOMAS Geraint      +00:11
    3      #ag2r   O'CONNOR Ben      +00:21
    4      #movistar   SOLER Marc      +00:33
    5      #ineos   PORTE Richie      +00:36
    6      #deceuninck   MASNADA Fausto      +00:45
    7      #astana   IZAGIRRE Ion      +00:48
    8      #bikeexchange   HAMILTON Lucas      +00:49
    9      #bahrain   CARUSO Damiano      +01:04

    as mentioned, it's not an easy time trial with the cobbled climb in there, and on top there's also likely to be rain again. On paper, Thomas should take the win, but we may also get to see some surprises
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #10 on: May 03, 2021, 21:37 »
    Here's Mister Icicle Fingers post crash, sorry stage interview.


    https://youtu.be/Uadl3OJYFGw?t=93


    Off topic rant incoming:
    I recommend Ineos to seriously consider Hestra gloves or some equal quality products for colder conditions :)
    (swedish company that makes excellent stuff for your fingers in winter, now they do cycling gloves as well).

    I think Wales must fall within the temperature zone where it is ok to "freeze your fingers off" because it proves you are tough. It is a bit like that in comfortable parts of southern Norway too. I remember the drill instructors in the infantry yelling "this is not cold it is nice to not sweat" at us on a cold autumn night.
    wo weeks later after being transfered to a camp in the ultimate north, early October: If you freeze you fix it before you freeze your fingers/toes/ass off and if you can't fix it yourself ask a teammate to help you because if you "freeze your fingers off" you really freeze your fingers off. We want soldiers with fingers here. Understood?
     
    Despite warnings we ended up with what was reportedly one of the more severe cases of frostbite in NATO history, distributed across the company, on a cold (-18 degrees) and windy day on treeless plains. Despite wearing some of the best cold conditions equipment in NATO at the time. I had home made even warmer wool mittens under the miltary windproof ones and my own ski goggles and had no trouble with it personally.

    Freezing cold is not cool and there's something about road cycling, there really aren't any equipment for competition in cold conditions -  because it is conceived as ineffective, racing wise. I think the case of G Thomas' temporarily missing fingers explain it can be perfectly effective at times.

    (Don't get me started on the topic of shoes, which are all made for the mediterranean countires' summer mean temperatures and not a drop of water in sight  :angry 
     

     
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 21:50 »
    Back on topic for a book-keeping post:
    Even with the flip-flop on the penultimate stage it was almost a given that #ineos Thomas would defeat #israel Woods in the time-trial.

    Except the conditions were extremely variable, and anything could happen. #quickstep Cavagna taking the day's stage home was more than just a pair of legs, he also was lucky to start before the worst rainshowers hit.



    Bisegger was riding before the TV cameras came on but he isn't a surprise anymore, just the big Swiss revelation of the year. The #groupama #champch #champeu Küng tried crossing road markings in the rain on a descent the day before and fell, so probably not on top form in body and mind the day after.

    #dsm Ilan van Wilder perhaps a little bit of a surprise, but then again these technical time trials are really something that team does very well (First rider I was thinking of when I saw the stage profile was teammate SKA but he wasnt in the race).   

    Maybe the real surprise is the double negative of the #ineos tank twins Ganna/Dennis. It must be a long time since their best result collectively in a team trial was 9th place?

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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 22:02 »
    After a quite predictable start with a prologue in nice weather, with conditions detoriating towards the end of the week, this result (which looks like anyone could have guessed it before the race perhaps?) is a bit misleading as at almost every point, including 50 m from the finish line on the main climb, the race could have been lost. I have a hunch that if an equally strong or more opportunistic rider, one of the super-Slovaks or perhaps, #quickstep #rainbows Julian Alaphilippe was present, #ineos Ineous couldn't have worked the way they did (just like 2013) to win the race.  They slipped so many times their win was not due to superior cycling more to a not-so-competitive field that didnæt manage to turn Ineos' mistakes against them. And they had Dennis the Menace. If you want someone to help you win a stage race, you want Dennis. It is hardly possible to attack :S



    EDIT: Ben O'Connor #ag2r may be the positive surprise on the GC list, but it could also just mean there weren't that many real GC riders doing a good job here.
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    Re: Tour de Romandie
    « Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 22:33 »
    Bisegger was riding before the TV cameras came on but he isn't a surprise anymore, just the big Swiss revelation of the year.

    I must say, I was still impressed yesterday. During the weak he looked quite a bit worse than expected to me, not quite up there (in terms of really challenging the win) in the prologue, dropped from an 80 men sprint field the day after, same when he was in the breakaway on a hilly stage later... I thought it was just "one race too many" for a young riders during a long spring campaign started in January. But yesterday's performance was very good again, especially as the steep climb at the beginning probably didn't really play into his hands
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    « Reply #14 on: May 04, 2021, 10:13 »

    Ah, the Thyon 2000 parking garage!
    I probably walked past that exact same spot wearing ski boots and everything. :D
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