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Re: 2021 Giro CQ Game
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2021, 12:39 »
Mainly because of the late Almeida charge, it's not me letting the side down. :P

Thanks for the hard work Armchair. :cool
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    Re: 2021 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #31 on: May 31, 2021, 16:12 »
    Mainly because of the late Almeida charge, it's not me letting the side down. :P

    Thanks for the hard work Armchair. :cool

    Yes, thanks AC. Makes the GTs a bit special.

    Despite Bardet and Carthy going backwards, I managed to hold onto 4th spot, so it's not me either.  :D

    Are we allowed substitutes?  :angel :lol
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    Re: 2021 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #32 on: June 01, 2021, 16:52 »
    How did we get (or miss out on) all those points?

    Riders' purple points

    94 riders got at least a top ten stage place, these are the ones who scored the equivalent of a stage win or better.
       
    Riderpurple points teams
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      265      27
    NIZZOLO Giacomo      150      0
    SAGAN Peter      145      8
    EWAN Caleb      141      11
    GANNA Filippo      140      0
    CARUSO Damiano      135      0
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      124      4
    CIMOLAI Davide      123      2
    MARTIN Daniel      112      8
    YATES Simon      109      39
    AFFINI Edoardo      105      0
    MERLIER Tim      95      3
    BETTIOL Alberto      78      0
    CAMPENAERTS Victor      75      0
    VENDRAME Andrea      75      0
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      74      4
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo      72      0
    VAN DER HOORN Taco      72      0
    DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd      70      1
    LAFAY Victor      70      0
    MÄDER Gino      70      0
    SCHMID Mauro      70      0


    Only Rufs (classification winner) included Bernal, Sagan and Ewan, and he also had Martin and the ubiquitous Yates.
    Zaka Fan(6th), Comodoro (jt 9th), Nathanptz (8th) and Tobydawq (4th) had Bernal and Sagan; Bonimenier (11th), Otoxiep (jt 9th), ChrisDK (13th), Lecko (2nd), Nyssinator (12th), Del 1962 (16th) and Northerner (5th)  put Bernal and Ewan together.  Kazistuta manages 3rd in this category although the underwhelming Viviani (69 points) was his only sprinter, and Berflamand managed 7th with only Bernal from the very high scorers, but also Merlier and Gaviria.


    Pink points
    Those pink jersey wearer points mounted up, with 14 days' worth of them giving Bernal 216 points above his GC (500), stage (265) Kom (40) and cyclamen (10) points.  He scored more on his own than ten of the thirteen teams who though his back issues meant he couldn't be relied on (I assume that was their reasoning anyway).

    The other riders who garnered more than 100 points are:
    Pink point total Popularity price
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley      1031      27      711
    CARUSO Damiano      535      0      507
    YATES Simon      434      39      557
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      346      4      1365
    VLASOV Aleksandr      311      6      1085
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe      286      2      494
    MARTIN Daniel      262      8      547
    BARDET Romain      253      6      375
    SAGAN Peter      230      8      864
    GANNA Filippo      209      0      797
    CARTHY Hugh      180      15      756
    CIMOLAI Davide      178      2      64
    FOSS Tobias Svendsen      178      1      155
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo      159      0      30
    VALTER Attila      157      0      265
    BENNETT George      151      2      680
    NIZZOLO Giacomo      150      0      780
    EWAN Caleb      141      11      638
    BETTIOL Alberto      123      0      87
    AFFINI Edoardo      122      0      100
    BOUWMAN Koen      115      0      109
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      114      4      241
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      106      0      883
    ULISSI Diego      103      0      850


    Obviously the high placed teams all had Bernal and Yates, their other 100pt + riders were:
    1      Rufs      2214   Martin-Sagan-Ewan
    2      Kazistuta      2179   Martin-Bardet
    3      Otoxiep87      2115   Carthy-Foss-Ewan
    4      Mellow_Velo      2049   Bardet-Carthy
    5      Tobydawq      2044   Martin-Sagan
    6      Armchair_Cyclist      2027   Martin-Carthy
    7      Lecko      2017   Martin-Ewan-Gaviria
    8      Northerner      2008   Bardet-Ewan-Gaviria
    9      Vladimir      1994   Bardet-Cimolai
    10      Fivezzz      1942   Martin-Carthy

    As far as I can see, the best possible team would have been
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
    CARUSO Damiano
    YATES Simon
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
    MARTIN Daniel
    BARDET Romain
    CIMOLAI Davide
    FOSS Tobias Svendsen
     at a cost of 3410 and giving 3157 points (879 purple points)

    The impeccable picks are:
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
    CARUSO Damiano
    MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
    BARDET Romain
    CIMOLAI Davide
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo
    GAVAZZI Francesco
    GROENEWEGEN Dylan

    and the riders in profit are:
    %age returnteams
    GROENEWEGEN Dylan   infinite   23
    GAVAZZI Francesco   685   0
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo   530   0
    CHRISTIAN Mark   300   0
    RIVI Samuele   300   0
    CIMOLAI Davide   278   2
    SCHMID Mauro   170   0
    ARNDT Nikias   160   0
    DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   159   1
    DUCHESNE Antoine   150   0
    VAN DEN BERG Lars   150   0
    BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley   145   27
    BETTIOL Alberto   141   0
    VERVAEKE Louis   140   0
    PONOMAR Andriy   136   0
    AFFINI Edoardo   122   0
    DINA Marton   115   0
    FOSS Tobias Svendsen   115   1
    CARUSO Damiano   106   0
    BOUWMAN Koen   106   0
    CARBONI Giovanni   105   0
    KANGERT Tanel   103   0

    The low 2020 costs made the scores from this edition higher than most years, but only marginally better than Archie Boy's tally of 2173 two years ago, and nowhere near the 2536 of Hugo87 in the 2014 game.

    All other numbers are in the spreadsheet here.

    Let me know if you have any thoughts about adjustments/improvements/new ideas in these games, and see if you can spur your friends into having a thought about it for the Tour de France game, launching in, I guess, less than three weeks.
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