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2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
« on: December 26, 2021, 15:47 »
We all like to think that we are pretty well informed about this sport we follow, and have our ears to the ground about the next big thing to expect.

So who are the riders who are only beginning to announce themselves at this stage, but will get big results (or at least consistent decent results) in the next few seasons?   Who still has moderate salary expectations but would be amazing value if a team were to sign him up on a three year deal now?

That is who the Emerging Riders CQ Game challenges you to identify: 18 male riders who thus far have fewer than 200 CQ Ranking points (each) in their career, and will score well between now and the end of the 2024 season.

When to submit my team? By the end of 15th January UK time (I'm willing to run the risk that the competitiveness of the game is spoiled by riders showing that they have the potential for world domination in the NZ Cycling Classic, which I think is the only event before that).

How do I submit my team?  By PM to me on Cycling News or VeloRooms (although Amis Velo did put his selection through the door of my house on what I assume was the envelope of one of his Christmas cards last year). Please submit your riders in the CQ format (Surname Givenname) and extra gratitude if you manage to get Spanish, Portuguese, Danish and Eritrean names in the same combination that CQ uses.  The huge, but by no means exhaustive, list of names here should enable you to get the right format and confirm eligibility.

How do I check that a rider is eligible? At the bottom right of each riders page on CQ is a bold printed (dark red on white) 'Points', and at the bottom right of that is a rider's lifetime score (for example, Valverde is over the limit by 35736.)  Or, check that he is on the list.  If he is straight out of Juniors, or you know he has done very little yet, then he is obviously fine.  To give you an idea, you are looking for someone who has achieved less than recent threshold passers Julius Johansen, David Dekker of Emmanuel Morin.

Can I choose female riders?  Sorry, no.

Is there an age limit?  No, if there is a rider who you think will be a late bloomer over the next three years, pick him.  There are many riders on the list who have taken a handful of points over 20 years or so (usually in nat champs of countries that have few cyclists). By the same token, if there is a teenager who you think will do so well in 2024 that he will justify his selection in that year alone, have at it.

Is there a limit to my team's total cost?  The 199 point limit is for each rider, not for your team. There is a logical upper limit of 3582, but concentrate on each rider, not on the total.

What about doping? For a while, CQ stopped removing scores, even when the UCI had cancelled results.  I notice that they have now resumed doing so (see, for example, Jaime Roson).  If your rider is caught cheating, and points are removed by CQ before the end of the game, then you'll lose them; if they are slow about it, you might get away with it.

How expert do I need to be?  Not very.  The winner of the edition that has just finished missed out on Vingegaard, Higuita, Pidcock and other big scorers, but opted for a rider who had three times as many points before the game than he got in the three years of the game: not one of us took Valter or Bissegger, but nine of us included Karel Vacek, who scored one solitary point in three years. 
And if you are really lacking ideas, I have put a list of riders selected for the main 2022 CQ game that are eligible here into the eligible names list file linked above, and repeated it in reply 5 below.

Good luck
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #1 on: December 31, 2021, 11:26 »
    Of course, I did my pre-selection months ago, when the season ended. So I was waiting for this thread to be open  :D

    This year I managed to cut the "short" list in just 28 riders (with no juniors this time!).
    8 from 2002
    8 from 2001
    5 from 2000
    4 from 1999
    2 from 1998
    1 from 1997

    What I think I'm going to do, is in first place get rid of the 7 older riders (full u23 squad then) and finally say "see you next year, dont go over 200 please" to the 3 riders from 2002 in my list that are not proffesionals yet.

    Then, the final 18 riders list is going to look like...
    5 from 2002
    8 from 2001
    5 from 2000

    Yep I know, very concentrate list this year, just taking a 2 years hairpin. But I'm sending the team like that. Anyway, I have 2 weeks to change my mind and make armchair crazy.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #2 on: January 01, 2022, 10:20 »
    My team is in too. Picked using my usual kind of fuzzy logic.

    They're all "Half-Price Heroes" ie. under 100 points and not 200.
    Deliberately nobody from previous years (I think).
    Quite a few refugees who didn't quite make the cut in my main game team.
    Three riders who however are in both teams.
    One 99er and one 03er, but the rest are in Cordi's age range of riders (I think).
    Missing a fair few obvious picks, but maybe not as many uniques as in previous games.

    7 WT
    8 PCT
    3 CT

    Hopefully I won't let the VR side down too much.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2022, 10:54 »


    Yep I know, very concentrate list this year, just taking a 2 years hairpin. But I'm sending the team like that. Anyway, I have 2 weeks to change my mind and make armchair crazy.

    Well, unexpectedly I'm going to make some ammendts in my team  :D

    It's just two of the older guys that I let down previously... One I think I shouldn't pass on him, and the other I think can be a precious rare pick. So... Two maybe still slightly green 2001 kids are making room for them.

    So for now, the final 18 riders list look like this:
    5 from 2002
    6 from 2001
    5 from 2000
    1 from 1999
    1 from 1998
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #4 on: January 09, 2022, 18:34 »
    My hopefully very competitive team consists of 6 riders that are also in my main game team. 11 different nations, 10 WT, 7 PT, one Conti. Birth years 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 11:01 »
    So among the 437 riders selected for the Main 2022 game there are 160 who are still eligible for this one.
    Looking through these might make your selection easier, but do not feel that your picks must come from this list.

    I have added them as a column in the list of eligible names file (the blue list on that file), but here they are:

    ABREHA Negasi Haylu
    ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego
    ANDERSON Edward
    ANTUNES Tiago Gomes
    APARICIO MUÑOZ Mario
    ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo
    ARROYAVE CAÑAS Daniel
    ASKEY Lewis
    AYUSO PESQUERA Juan
    BAIS Davide
    BALLESTEROS CANOVAS Miguel Angel
    BALMER Alexandre
    BARONCINI Filippo
    BAYER Tobias
    BERTHET Clément
    BITTNER Pavel
    BRENNER Marco
    CAMARGO PINEDA Diego Andres
    CANAL BLANCO Carlos
    CHEVALIER Maxime
    CHZHAN Igor
    COLEMAN Zak
    COSTA Fabio Manuel Fernandes
    DAL-CIN Matteo
    DE LIE Arnaud
    DE VYLDER Lindsay
    DELBOVE Joris
    DELPHIS Thomas
    DRIZNERS Jarrad
    EDVARDSEN-FREDHEIM Stian
    EGHOLM Jakob
    EINHORN Itamar
    EL GOUZI Omar
    ELOSEGUI MOMEÑE Iñigo
    EVANS Alexander
    FANCELLU Alessandro
    FERRON Valentin
    FRETIN Milan
    FRIGO Marco
    GALL Felix
    GARRISON Ian
    GARRISON Michael
    GAZZOLI Michele
    GOLDSTEIN Omer
    GOVEKAR Matevz
    GRANIGAN Noah
    GREGOIRE Romain
    GROSS Felix
    GUDMESTAD Tord
    HAGENES Per Strand
    HAILEMICHAEL Mulu Kinfe
    HAJEK Alexander
    HAYTER Leo
    HEALY Ben
    HECHT Gage
    HEIDUK Kim
    HEINSCHKE Leon
    HELLEMOSE Asbjørn
    HEMING Mika
    HESSMANN Michel
    HOLLYMAN Mason
    HOOLE Daan
    HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby
    INKELAAR Kevin
    ISERBYT Eli
    JACOBS Johan
    JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland
    JONES TAJ
    KEOGH Cian
    KOIDE Itsuki
    KORETZKY Victor
    KRUL Wessel
    LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier
    LEEMREIZE Gijs
    LEITAO Iuri Gabriel Dantas
    LOPEZ GRANIZO Harold Martin
    LÜHRS Luis-Joe
    MADAN Ahmed
    MALACARNE Alex
    MARTIN GALAN Sergio Roman
    MARTIN ROMERO David
    MARTINEZ Lenny
    MAYRHOFER Marius
    MAZZUCCO Fabio
    MEENS Johan
    MERCHAN CARDONA Didier Norberto
    MIHKELS Madis
    MILAN Jonathan
    MIQUEL DELGADO Pau
    MORENO SALA Adria
    NABERMAN Tim
    NICOLAU BELTRAN Joel
    NYS Thibau
    OKAMIKA BENGOETXEA Ander
    OLIVEIRA Ivo Emanuel Alves
    ORTS LLORET Felipe
    OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro
    PARET-PEINTRE Valentin
    PARISELLA Raphael
    PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David
    PENHOËT Paul
    PICCOLO Andrea
    PIDCOCK Joseph
    PINARELLO Alessandro
    PIRA PARADA Yesid Albeiro
    PITHIE Laurence
    PLAPP Lucas
    PONOMAR Andriy
    PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan
    PRIES Cédric
    QUINN Sean
    RANGEL COSTA Vinicius
    RAUGEL Antoine
    REX Laurenz
    RHIM Brendan
    RICCITELLO Matthew
    RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith
    ROCCHETTA Cristian
    RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik
    ROMO OLIVER Javier
    SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo
    SCOTSON Callum
    SHEFFIELD Magnus
    STEDMAN Travis
    STEINHAUSER Georg
    STEWART Campbell
    STEWART Mark
    STORK Florian
    STRONG Corbin
    SVRCEK Martin
    SWEENY Harrison
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso
    TENDON Arnaud
    TIBERI Antonio
    TOUMIRE Hugo
    TRACZ Szymon
    TURNER Ben
    UIJTDEBROEKS Cian
    UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago
    VACEK Karel
    VACEK Mathias
    VADER Milan
    VAN DIJKE Tim
    VAN GILS Maxim
    VAN TRICHT Stan
    VANDENABEELE Henri
    VERMAERKE Kevin
    VERNON Ethan
    VERRE Alessandro
    VERSCHAEVE Viktor
    VERVLOESEM Xandres
    VINOKOUROV Nicolas
    WAERENSKJOLD Søren
    WANDAHL Frederik
    WELSFORD Samuel
    WHITEHEAD Josh
    WILLIAMS Tyler
    ZAMBANINI Edoardo
    ZERAI Nahom
    ZINGLE Axel


     Does that make it easier?
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #6 on: January 11, 2022, 22:45 »
    So among the 437 riders selected for the Main 2022 game there are 160 who are still eligible for this one.
    Looking through these might make your selection easier, but do not feel that your picks must come from this list.

    Does that make it easier?
    Much appreciated! :cool
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #7 on: January 12, 2022, 18:25 »
    My team is in!

    #<span class=wt" title="WorldTeams" class="smiley" /> 9
    #pro 9
    #conti 0

    1998: 4
    1999: 7
    2000: 4
    2001: 1
    2002: 2

    *no 4
    *dk 3
    *fr 2
    *es 2
    *au 2
    *at 1
    *co 1
    *de 1
    *hu 1
    *it 1


    EDIT: One of the Danes (born 1999) replaced with an Aussie (born 1998).

    1998: 5
    1999: 6
    2000: 4
    2001: 1
    2002: 2

    *no 4
    *au 3
    *dk 2
    *fr 2
    *es 2
    *at 1
    *co 1
    *de 1
    *hu 1
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #8 on: January 13, 2022, 14:15 »
    Just under 2 1/2 days to go, 25 teams in so far (quite good, assuming that there are several that will be submitted at the eleventh hour)


    113 different riders have been picked, 49 of them just once, and 8 are on more than half the teams (and 3 teams have all 8 of them). 


    The most popular selection has 88% of the maximum popularity score, the least has 33%.


    77 riders who were picked in the main game have not been picked up in this one yet (including 5 who were chosen 4 or more times there), while 30 names are active in this game but not the main one (8 of them more than once).


    But this note isn't here just for stats geeks: it's to remind you that you have until 23:59 GMT/UTC on Saturday (or in practice, until I get to my inbox on Sunday morning, so long as you avoid riders from the Aussie national championships) to get the names to me.


    Good luck
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #9 on: January 15, 2022, 21:20 »
    Well, unexpectedly I'm going to make some ammendts in my team  :D

    It's just two of the older guys that I let down previously... One I think I shouldn't pass on him, and the other I think can be a precious rare pick. So... Two maybe still slightly green 2001 kids are making room for them.

    So for now, the final 18 riders list look like this:
    5 from 2002
    6 from 2001
    5 from 2000
    1 from 1999
    1 from 1998

    Well, last minute change. It's a guy coming from other sport. He wasn't even on my big list because I doubted about his commitment to road cycling, but I just read an interview that gives me good vibes so let's go.

    I sack another young lad from 2001 to make room. Final composition of the team:

    5 from 2002
    5 from 2001
    5 from 2000
    1 from 1999
    1 from 1998
    1 from 1994

    Note that the 3 older guys that are no longer u23, came late to road cycling from other sports (triathlon, track, mtb).
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #10 on: January 15, 2022, 22:05 »
    A couple of hours left: still time, but not much...
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #11 on: January 15, 2022, 22:11 »
    Still time for cordi to change a couple more riders. :D :P
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #12 on: January 16, 2022, 03:04 »
    Still time for cordi to change a couple more riders. :D :P

    No more changes :)

    I hope that the Koretzky-Askey affair pays better than the Vacek-Higuita :D
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #13 on: January 16, 2022, 11:29 »
    And they are off
    With 25% of the field left behind as soon a the flag drops.

    40 teams, which is more than we have had for a few years, and quite a few new entrants, which is great (although they are all from Cycling News, which makes the weighting of the inter-forum battle a bit askew).  It's always a bit disappointing when some regular players don't appear (HugoKoblet, Jakob747, Karaev, Kryvo, Ludwigzgz, Muddy Waters, Northerner, Yellow Knight): I hope all is OK, guys, and that you have simply had a busy week.

    So, who have we got, and who have they got?
    (As previously, asterisks indicate unique picks)


    Amis Velo

       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       CHEVALIER Maxime   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VADER Milan   *
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

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       ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       COLNAGHI Luca   *
       HEALY Ben   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
       RANGEL COSTA Vinicius   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Berflamand
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       HAYTER Leo   
       HOOLE Daan   
       LÜHRS Luis-Joe   
       MARTINEZ Lenny   
       NYS Thibau   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PONOMAR Andriy   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       SVRCEK Martin   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Blues in the Bottle
       ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       CAMARGO PINEDA Diego Andres   
       HAYTER Leo   
       PARET-PEINTRE Valentin   
       PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David   
       PIDCOCK Joseph   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
       QUINN Sean   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STORK Florian   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERMAERKE Kevin   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Bminchow
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       HAYTER Leo   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       Svrcek Martin   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       Uijtdebroeks Cian   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Bonimenier
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       HOOLE Daan   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       NYS Thibau   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       TURNER Ben   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

    Comodoro
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DRIZNERS Jarrad   
       EDVARDSEN-FREDHEIM Stian   *
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       HEALY Ben   
       PITHIE Laurence   
       QUINN Sean   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VAN UDEN Casper   
       VERMAERKE Kevin   

    Cordi
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GLOAG Thomas   
       KORETZKY Victor   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       RANGEL COSTA Vinicius   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       STEWART Campbell   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

    Del1962
       ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       GLOAG Thomas   
       HEALY Ben   
       HOOLE Daan   
       LAPEIRA Paul   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       MAYRHOFER Marius   
       O'BRIEN Kelland   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

    Devil's Elbow
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GLOAG Thomas   
       HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby   
       LAMPERTI Luke   *
       NYS Thibau   
       PITHIE Laurence   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Edk Deus
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       FETTER Erik   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       NYS Thibau   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLOWRIGHT Jensen   *
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STORK Florian   
       TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   
       THOMPSON Reuben   *
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   
       ZAMBANINI Edoardo   

    Evans is the Best
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       KORETZKY Victor   
       LE HUITOUZE Eddy   *
       MARTINEZ Lenny   
       NYS Thibau   
       QUINN Sean   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TOUMIRE Hugo   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VERNON Ethan   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Fivezzz
       ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       QUINN Sean   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       SVRCEK Martin   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VERNON Ethan   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Greenedge
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       CAMARGO PINEDA Diego Andres   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GALL Felix   *
       GAZZOLI Michele   
       GUDMESTAD Tord   
       MILAN Jonathan   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STAUNE-MITTET Johannes   
       SWEENY Harrison   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VAN UDEN Casper   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Jon Ezeitza
       ANDERSEN Idar   
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BITTNER Pavel   *
       BRENNER Marco   
       HOOLE Daan   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       MIHOLJEVIC Fran   *
       PENHOËT Paul   
       PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   
       ZAMBANINI Edoardo   

    Josedin
       ANDERSEN Idar   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DELPHIS Thomas   *
       DRIZNERS Jarrad   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       HOOLE Daan   
       KORETZKY Victor   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       SVRCEK Martin   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERMAERKE Kevin   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WILLEMS Thimo   *

    Jumbo Visma Fan
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       EGHOLM Jakob   *
       HAYTER Leo   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       NYS Thibau   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
       RANGEL COSTA Vinicius   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STRONG Corbin   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERMAERKE Kevin   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Kazistuta
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       HOOLE Daan   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       MONIQUET Sylvain   *
       PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PONOMAR Andriy   
       RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik   
       STORK Florian   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERMAERKE Kevin   

    Koronin
       BRENNER Marco   
       CANAL BLANCO Carlos   *
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       ELOSEGUI MOMEÑE Iñigo   *
       GARCIA PIERNA Raul   *
       HESSMANN Michel   *
       HOLLMANN Juri   
       LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier   
       LÜHRS Luis-Joe   
       MIQUEL DELGADO Pau   *
       QUINN Sean   
       RANGEL COSTA Vinicius   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo   *
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       VERMAERKE Kevin   
       VERRE Alessandro   
       WANDAHL Frederik   

    Laarsland
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       GUDMESTAD Tord   
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       HEIDUK Kim   
       LÜHRS Luis-Joe   
       MILAN Jonathan   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Leadbelly
       ASKEY Lewis   
       BALMER Alexandre   *
       BLOUWE Louis   *
       FRETIN Milan   *
       GAROFOLI Gianmarco   *
       HOLLYMAN Mason   *
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       KOPECKY Matyas   *
       MARTINELLI Alessio   
       MAYRHOFER Marius   
       PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       UHLIG Henri   *
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       VERRE Alessandro   

    Los Brolin
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       EINHORN Itamar   *
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       HAYTER Leo   
       LUND ANDRESEN Tobias   *
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PITHIE Laurence   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   

    Lukas CPH
       ANDERSEN Idar   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       CHARMIG Anthon   
       CHEVALIER Maxime   
       FERRON Valentin   
       FETTER Erik   
       HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       O'BRIEN Kelland   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       SWEENY Harrison   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

    Madrazo
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BRENNER Marco   
       CHARMIG Anthon   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GAZZOLI Michele   
       NYS Thibau   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       RANGEL COSTA Vinicius   
       RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Nakazar
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       FETTER Erik   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       HOOLE Daan   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       NYS Thibau   
       PITHIE Laurence   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       RANGEL COSTA Vinicius   
       SVRCEK Martin   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

    Nathanptz
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BRENNER Marco   
       CHARMIG Anthon   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       LAPEIRA Paul   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PENHOËT Paul   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   

    Nyssinator
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GLOAG Thomas   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       GUDMESTAD Tord   
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       HAYTER Leo   
       HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby   
       NYS Thibau   
       PARET-PEINTRE Valentin   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       STAUNE-MITTET Johannes   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Otoxiep87
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DRIZNERS Jarrad   
       JACOBS Johan   *
       LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PARRA CUERDA Jose Felix   *
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       SCARONI Cristian   *
       TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN DIJKE Tim   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   

    Ray10
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       DVERSNES Fredrik   *
       FERRON Valentin   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       HELLEMOSE Asbjørn   *
       LÜHRS Luis-Joe   
       PIDCOCK Joseph   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STAUNE-MITTET Johannes   
       TURNER Ben   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Redhead Dane
       ANDERSEN Kasper   *
       ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BERWICK Sebastian   *
       BOILEAU Alan   *
       CHEVALIER Maxime   
       HEALY Ben   
       HOLLMANN Juri   
       JUNTUNEN Antti-Jussi   *
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PAQUOT Tom   
       PRITZEN Marc Oliver   *
       QUINN Sean   
       STRONG Corbin   
       VAN DEN BOSSCHE Fabio   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

    Repre
       ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BERTHET Clément   
       BRENNER Marco   
       PAQUOT Tom   
       PARET-PEINTRE Valentin   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PONOMAR Andriy   
       PRODHOMME Nicolas   *
       QUINN Sean   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       TURNER Ben   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   

    Riverside
       ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego   *
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       JONES TAJ   *
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       OLIVEIRA Ivo Emanuel Alves   *
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PONOMAR Andriy   
       RANGEL COSTA Vinicius   
       RIVERA VARGAS Brandon Smith   *
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STORK Florian   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       VERRE Alessandro   
       VERVLOESEM Xandres   *

    Rote Laterne
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BERTHET Clément   
       FERRON Valentin   
       GLOAG Thomas   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PONOMAR Andriy   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   

    Rufs
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       FETTER Erik   
       HEIDUK Kim   
       HOOLE Daan   
       HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       MAYRHOFER Marius   
       PEÑALVER ANIORTE Manuel   *
       PLAPP Lucas   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN DEN BOSSCHE Fabio   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   

    SafeBet
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       LIPOWITZ Florian   *
       MILAN Jonathan   
       NYS Thibau   
       OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PITHIE Laurence   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VERNON Ethan   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Salvarani
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BRENNER Marco   
       CHARMIG Anthon   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       LAPEIRA Paul   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       QUINN Sean   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       STEWART Campbell   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       VAN DEN BOSSCHE Fabio   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   
       WANDAHL Frederik   

    Scrooll07
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       HEIDUK Kim   
       HOOLE Daan   
       HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STEWART Campbell   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       VAN DEN BOSSCHE Fabio   
       VAN GILS Maxim   
       VAN TRICHT Stan   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   
       ZINGLE Axel   

    Skidmark
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       BERTHET Clément   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GREGOIRE Romain   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       LEITAO Iuri Gabriel Dantas   *
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       VERNON Ethan   

    Squire
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BERTHET Clément   
       BRENNER Marco   
       DE LIE Arnaud   
       GLOAG Thomas   
       NYS Thibau   
       PICCOLO Andrea   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       VANDENABEELE Henri   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   
       ZINGLE Axel   
       ZWIEHOFF Ben   *

    Vladimir
       ASKEY Lewis   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BRENNER Marco   
       BRUSSENSKIY Gleb   *
       HAGENES Per Strand   
       MARTINELLI Alessio   
       MAYRHOFER Marius   
       MILAN Jonathan   
       MURGUIALDAY ELORZA Jokin   *
       NYS Thibau   
       PICCOLO Andrea
       PONOMAR Andriy   
       SHEFFIELD Magnus   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       TIBERI Antonio   
       TOUMIRE Hugo   
       UIJTDEBROEKS Cian   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   

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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #14 on: January 16, 2022, 11:59 »
    The Riders
    In case you weren't counting, there are 131 of them named above, 51 with asterisks.

    At the other end of the scale, we have (I think) a new record for popularity of pick in any CQ game: Ayuso is on 95% of teams.  As far as Emerging games are concerned, Evenepoel, who surely was more hyped, was on, I think, 34 of 37 teams, and IIRC, Simon Yates was on all but 2 teams when he was at this stage, but I can't remember how many entrants there were that year (I'll look it up later).

    38 teams: AYUSO PESQUERA Juan
    32: BARONCINI Filippo
    30: PLAPP Lucas (bringing a 100 point head start)
    27: BRENNER Marco
    25: UIJTDEBROEKS Cian
    24: DE LIE Arnaud
    22: TIBERI Antonio, VERNON Ethan
    21: UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago
    20: ASKEY Lewis
    19: ROMO OLIVER Javier, VANDENABEELE Henri
    16: VAN TRICHT Stan
    15: PICCOLO Andrea, SHEFFIELD Magnus, STEINHAUSER Georg
    14: LEEMREIZE Gijs, WAERENSKJOLD Søren
    There are 18 names above this: they are the Collective Wisdom team

    13: VAN GILS Maxim
    12: GREGOIRE Romain, NYS Thibau
    11: BAYER Tobias, JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland
    9: HOOLE Daan, VAN DIJKE Tim, ZINGLE Axel
    8: HAGENES Per Strand, QUINN Sean
    7: PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan, RANGEL COSTA Vinicius
    6: ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo, GLOAG Thomas, HAYTER Leo, HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby, PONOMAR Andriy, VERMAERKE Kevin
    5: PITHIE Laurence, SVRCEK Martin
    4: BERTHET Clément, CHARMIG Anthon, FETTER Erik, HEALY Ben, LÜHRS Luis-Joe, MAYRHOFER Marius, MILAN Jonathan, RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik, STORK Florian, VAN DEN BOSSCHE Fabio
    3: ANDERSEN Idar, CHEVALIER Maxime, DRIZNERS Jarrad, FERRON Valentin, GUDMESTAD Tord, HEIDUK Kim, KORETZKY Victor, LAPEIRA Paul, PARET-PEINTRE Valentin, PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David, STAUNE-MITTET Johannes, STEWART Campbell, TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso, TURNER Ben, VERRE Alessandro
    2:  CAMARGO PINEDA Diego Andres, GAZZOLI Michele, HOLLMANN Juri, LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier, MARTINELLI Alessio, MARTINEZ Lenny, O'BRIEN Kelland, OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro, PAQUOT Tom, PENHOËT Paul, PIDCOCK Joseph, STRONG Corbin, SWEENY Harrison, TOUMIRE Hugo, VAN UDEN Casper, WANDAHL Frederik, ZAMBANINI Edoardo

    And yet there will be riders who score well by the end of the 3 years who are not on these lists, who will embarrass us all and will be logged as the Collective Ignorance team.  (we don't know who they are yet, but it might be fun to guess)
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #15 on: January 16, 2022, 13:32 »
    Team popularity

    In case anyone is new, the popularity table ranks the teams according to the number of teams each of their riders is on.  For example, nearly all of us got 38 points for Ayuso, while any unique picks on your team will have got you just one point. Koronin and Leadbelly are the two that lack Ayuso, Redhead Dane somehow positions herself lower in the popularity table than Leadbelly despite that.

    Team Popularity pts Unique picks
    1      Bminchow      362         0
    2      AmisVelo      353         1
    3      Bonimenier      333         0
    4      Cordi      332         0
    4      Fivezzz      332         0
    4      Skidmark      332         1
    7      Madrazo      323         0
    7      Squire      323         1
    9      SafeBet      321         1
    10      Armchair_Cyclist      308         1
    11      DevilsElbow      307         1
    12      Nakazar      306         0
    13      LosBrolin      301         2
    14      Laarsland      296         0
    15      RoteLaterne      290         0
    16      Rufs      288         1
    17      Del1962      287         0
    17      Nyssinator      287         0
    19      Kazistuta      285         1
    20      Scrooll07      283         0
    21      JumboVismaFan      282         1
    21      Salvarani      282         0
    23      Nathanptz      277         0
    24      Berflamand      276         0
    25      Repre      274         1
    26      EvansIsTheBest      273         1
    27      Otoxiep87      271         3
    28      Comodoro      257         1
    29      Josedin      256         2
    30      JonEzeitza      250         2
    31      Greenedge      249         1
    32      EdkDeus      247         2
    33      Vladimir      238         2
    34      Blues_in_the_Bottle      237         0
    35      Riverside      235         5
    36      Ray10      231         2
    37      LukasCPH      222         0
    38      Leadbelly      143         7
    39      RedheadDane      126         5
    40      Koronin      125         6
          CollectiveWisdom      388         0
          CollectiveIgnorance      0         18
          MainGame2022      344         0
          Goodin2021      143         4

    Bminchow's team was high, but by no means top, until he sent in three changes that greatly boosted his standings here: whether De Lie, Leemreize and Vernon give a greater boost than Ardila, Drizners and Van Dijke to the final score remains to be seen.

    I should have mentioned in the post above that there were some interesting swings in the popularity of riders: Baroncini was as popular  as Ayuso for a long time, but later submissions had a far lower rate of inclusion for him; Leemrieze, Vandenabeele and Romo all hung on to the top 18, but were among the top 6 or 8 for a long time, and a few riders were notable for their frequency in the entries of the last couple of days: Sheffield, Gregoire,Nys and Bayer.  And although Koretsky was only on 3 teams, they were, if memory serves me well, three of the final five to arrive.

    I have already explained above the Collective Wisdom and Ignorance teams, but there are two others in the bottom bit of the list that might need explaining. 
    The Main Game 2022 team is made up of the most popular players in the main annual CQ game, hosted by Skidmark, that are still eligible here.  There is a difference in player base, but also a difference in pricing priorities, in that game, so there Uitdebroeks is very close to Ayuso, and a long way clear of Baroncini in popularity there as opposed to here.  No unique picks here, but Milan Vader is on 6 teams there and only 1 here: Javier Romo is on 19 teams here, but only 5 there.
    Good in 2021 represents, I suppose, the laziest way of selecting a team; they are the top 18 scoring riders in 2021 that are still eligible here.  Low in the popularity rankings because it necessarily excludes those coming up from the juniors, and maybe because of a tendency against choosing again riders who didn't perform as we hoped in Year 1 of the previous edition.  But no-one thought that Wirtgen, Delettre, Zoccarato or Hocevar had done enough last year to be worth a punt here?


    The make up of the CI team will constantly change, and it expect it to lead for about a year and a half, as it cannot contain anyone who has not yet performed well.  But who might it contain at the end of 2024?  Who did you consider, but omit, and you were surprised to see that he is not one of the 115 riders that someone else fancied?  On those grounds, I will propose Sam Welsford (and perhaps those 4 from the Good in 2021 team) as likely to feature in Collective Ignorance.  Who do you think will be there?
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #16 on: January 16, 2022, 13:57 »
    Woo hoo got a mention. :lol

    The make up of the CI team will constantly change, and it expect it to lead for about a year and a half, as it cannot contain anyone who has not yet performed well.  But who might it contain at the end of 2024?  Who did you consider, but omit, and you were surprised to see that he is not one of the 115 riders that someone else fancied? 

    Just checking and the only two I had on the long list that didn't make it onto anybody's team are Riccitello and Martin Lopez. Maybe the latter has the best chance of doing something. He got some special advice from Guama which he is putting in practice - work on your TT!
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #17 on: January 16, 2022, 15:22 »
    I'm greatly surprised Reuben Thompson is a unique pick. Winner of Aosta lads!

    Was one of the 3 youngster I sacked (alongside Askey and rare pick Toumire) to make room for the addition of those 3 older guys coming from other sports, that were Romo (a triathlete until 2020, high in the popularity ranking), Stewart (track rider until 2021, silver in omniun in the OG) and Koretzky (mtb rider, quite older than the rest, who's going to make a shot to road racing starting this year). The frenchman was a high risk pick I just decided in the last minute, but even knowing that, he isn't a unique pick  :angry

    Other good unique pick is Felix Parra, one of the main leaders of spanish PT Kern Pharma, that is going to have a great calendar (is expected to go to the Vuelta a España). Late bloomer but good climber, was in my last short list before cuting to make it 18 riders. Fetter and Sweeny were other 2 rare picks that were so close to enter my team.

    ...
    In the first long list I made (of rougly 70 riders) there are some for the CI team: Not too exciting pros like Lars van den Berg, Simon Guglielmi or Joel Suter, a good looking neo pro like Maurice Ballerstedt and a kid coming fresh from juniors with big potential like Alec Segaert.

    Also there are like 20 of the unique picks of other managers. I don't know why, but in the end I always bet on the ones that become mainstream  :lol
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #18 on: January 16, 2022, 16:45 »
    Odds and ends

    If we were to rank the teams by the number of career points their riders had before the game starts (obviously less than 200 for each of them), we would have:
    1      RedheadDane      2610
    2      LukasCPH      2507
    3      Scrooll07      2294
    4      RoteLaterne      2113
    5      JonEzeitza      2011
    6      Rufs      2006
    7      Otoxiep87      1995
    8      Del1962      1896
    9      Repre      1880
    10      Armchair_Cyclist      1879
    11      Fivezzz      1859
    12      Greenedge      1851
    13      Salvarani      1846
    14      DevilsElbow      1818
    15      AmisVelo      1755
    16      Madrazo      1752
    17      SafeBet      1733
    18      EdkDeus      1649
    19      Squire      1618
    20      Nakazar      1614
    21      Bonimenier      1578
    22      Kazistuta      1538
    23      Bminchow      1513
    24      Comodoro      1496
    25      Cordi      1494
    26      Skidmark      1467
    27      Riverside      1447
    28      Nathanptz      1392
    29      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1386
    30      LosBrolin      1385
    31      JumboVismaFan      1353
    32      Ray10      1272
    33      Laarsland      1256
    34      Josedin      1235
    35      EvansIsTheBest      1227
    36      Nyssinator      1111
    37      Koronin      1029
    38      Vladimir      1015
    39      Berflamand      845
    40      Leadbelly      731
          CollectiveWisdom      1630
          CollectiveIgnorance      0
          MainGame2022      1118
          Goodin2021      2969
    I'm not sure that that demonstrates much other than propensity to go for riders who have already established themselves a bit.  No surprise that the Good in 21 team outscores everyone, something of a surprise that RHD and Lukas get as close to that score as they do.  Leadbelly's score reflects his self imposed handicap of only having riders with a maximum pre-game career of 100 rather than 200.

    Inter Forum Challenge
    Eight of our players represent (by virtue of submitting their teams there) Team VeloRooms: AmisVelo, Cordi, Josedin, Leadbelly, LukasCPH, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne and Scrooll07
    Everyone else (apart from me: strictly neutral of course) is on the CN Forum team (31 of you).
    Inter-forum rivalry is determined by mean average score.

    Last year we had a group who additionally represented Equipo Parliamento Ciclismo, of whom I think only 4 remain (Cordi, Comodoro, Jon E and Josedin: have I got that right?)  I can include them again, but are there any other Spanish/Iberian players who would like that team expanded to include them?  Anyone else think they can claim a group identity with a minimum of say 5 from the entrants to put up an average score?  Scandis? Anyone other than myself and (I assume) Del old enough for a "Rebellin is a youngster" team?  Have we ever identified a large contingent of any particular profession on the boards?   And collectivity you care to propose, put it up here and if you can get a group of at least 5 and I'll include them. You will still be on your forum's panel, and you can be in more than one group, but even if your team turns out to be a flop, it will give you something to cheer for.

    Team similarity
    Obviously the higher popularity teams are the ones most similar to any other team, but the maximum co-incidence in selection is 13 (Amis Velo and Bminchow, the two most popular teams) but also Rufs and Scrool07.
    There are also several overlaps of 12 riders:
    Amis Velo with Armchair, Bonimenier and Fivezzz
    Bminchow with Fivezzz and Skidmark
    Devil's Elbow with Squire
    Madrazo with Squire

    In terms of similarity with Collective Wisdom, Bminchow and Amis Velo each have 15, then Cordi (14), Skidmark (13, also the Main Game selection) and Fivezzz and Squire (12 each).

    Despite omitting Ayuso, Leadbelly and Koronin manage to find some common ground with everyone else, even each other (they share Akessandro Verre, also picked by Riverside) except that Leadbelly and Redhead Dane find no common interest at all: their teams are totally mutually exclusive.

    Amis Velo, Cordi and Squire draw equally on the Main game team, with 12: Redhead Dane has just 1.
    Lukas has 9 of the 'Good in 2021' team: no-one else has more than 6 of them (Leadbelly, for reasons already pointed out, has none).

    There is a tab on the spreadsheet to show your similarity to other teams.

    Current standings
    Other than new Aussie champ Plapp (100 pts, 30 teams), I believe the only other selected rider off the mark is Laurence Pithie (17 points from NZ Classic, 5 teams), which would mean that we have 4 joint leaders (Devil's Elbow, Los Brolin, Nakazar and SafeBet), with Comodoro in 31st place.

    Spreadsheet
    Unless Google does something unexpected,  the spreadsheet should remain here indefinitely. See what else you can discover in it!

    I aim to do updates early each month, life (and other CQ games) sometimes interferes with that. I don't always include the link to the spreadsheet when I post them, but you know where to find it now.

    You are locked in for three long years now: enjoy the unveiling of heroes and the dismemberment of dreams.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #19 on: January 16, 2022, 18:03 »
    I'm a bit surprised about the many Askey and Vernon picks. Askey is likely used as lead out and Vernon probably too. But then I don't follow track and it's always a risk leaving out  #deceuninck neo-pros.

    Riders I thought would be more popular: Vader, Edvardsen-Fredheim, Thompson, Garifoli, Bittner, Balmer.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #20 on: January 16, 2022, 18:42 »
    Leon Heinschke/Hugo Page/Edoardo Zambanini might appear in the CI team, but I'm not sure they are omissions that I regret (but ask me again in late 2024...)
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #21 on: January 16, 2022, 21:49 »
    Lukas CPH
       ANDERSEN Idar   
       AYUSO PESQUERA Juan   
       BARONCINI Filippo   
       BAYER Tobias   
       CHARMIG Anthon   
       CHEVALIER Maxime   
       FERRON Valentin   
       FETTER Erik   
       HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby   
       JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland   
       O'BRIEN Kelland   
       PLAPP Lucas   
       RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik   
       ROMO OLIVER Javier   
       STEINHAUSER Georg   
       SWEENY Harrison   
       UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago   
       WAERENSKJOLD Søren   
    No unique picks! :o I think that's a first for me.

    Team popularity
    Team Popularity pts Unique picks
    37      LukasCPH      222         0
    But nevertheless a very 'unpopular' team all around. I choose to interpret that as having picked riders that only few others thought of, but that were nevertheless not so obscure as to be unique picks. In other words, a very good selection.

    I'm greatly surprised Reuben Thompson is a unique pick. Winner of Aosta lads!
    He was on my shortlist for a long time, but eventually I didn't pick him as he 'only' has 64 career points until now. So he can score up to 135 points with #cgf this season and still be available for 2023-2025 (when he'll probably move up to the WT team), in which case I'd definitely pick him.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #22 on: February 01, 2022, 00:10 »
    Year 1 Month 1 to 30th January

    14 of our chosen riders (and 65 others who were eligible) have scored points, led by wins for Plapp (100 pts, 30 teams) and De Lie (80 pts, 24 teams)

    Other major early scorers mentioned alongside their pickers:
    1      Greenedge      239   Gall & Gummestad
    2      Squire      208   Zwiehoff
    3      Nakazar      207   Pithie & Hoole
    4      Rufs      200   Penalver and Hoole
    5      DevilsElbow      197   Pithie
    5      LosBrolin      197     "
    5      SafeBet      197     "
    8      Laarsland      195   Gudmestad
    8      Nyssinator      195       "
    10      Berflamand      190   Hoole
    10      Bonimenier      190     "
    10      Kazistuta      190     "
    10      Scrooll07      190     "
    14      AmisVelo      180   
    14      Bminchow      180   
    14      Cordi      180   
    14      Fivezzz      180   
    14      JumboVismaFan      180   
    14      Madrazo      180   
    14      Nathanptz      180   
    14      Ray10      180   
    22      Armchair_Cyclist      132    Colnaghi
    23      Riverside      113   
    24      Del1962      110   
    24      Josedin      110   
    26      Otoxiep87      105   
    27      Blues_in_the_Bottle      100   
    27      LukasCPH      100   
    27      Repre      100   
    27      RoteLaterne      100   
    31      Koronin      93   
    32      Salvarani      87   
    33      Skidmark      80   
    34      Comodoro      17   
    35      JonEzeitza      10   
    36      EdkDeus      0   
    36      EvansIsTheBest      0   
    36      Leadbelly      0   
    36      RedheadDane      0   
    36      Vladimir      0   
          CollectiveWisdom      180   
          CollectiveIgnorance      524   
          MainGame2022      180   
          Goodin2021      5   
    Two members of Collective Ignorance (James Whelan and Joel Suter) have already put themselves out of contention for next year's edition.

    Flashes in the pan or showing what to expect? We'll see.

    At least it gives me a chance to check the spreadsheet
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #23 on: February 28, 2022, 19:37 »
    Year 1, month 2 31 January to 27th February
    The season has crept north, and plenty of our picks have started their campaign.

    Rider Pts this month Teams Source
    VAN GILS Maxim      149      13   Saudi Tour wins GC and a stage   
    CHARMIG Anthon      148      4   7th in Saudi and 5th with a stage in Oman   
    AYUSO PESQUERA Juan      84      38   4th in Drome and Ardeche and Valenciana pts   
    SHEFFIELD Magnus      56      15   Stage win and GC top 20 in Andalucia   
    PLAPP Lucas      44      30      
    VANDENABEELE Henri      44      19      
    VERMAERKE Kevin      36      6      
    ALBA BOLIVAR Juan Diego      35      1      
    TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso      34      3      
    PRITZEN Marc Oliver      30      1   


    Rank this month Pts this month Main scorers
    1      Nathanptz      589   Van Gils/Charmig/Ayuso/Sheffield/Plapp/Vandenabeele   
    2      Salvarani      507   Van Gils/Charmig/Ayuso/Vandenabeele   
    3      Bminchow      441   Van Gils/Ayuso/Sheffield/Plapp/Vandenabeele   
    4      Armchair_Cyclist      392   Van Gils/Ayuso/Plapp/Vandenabeele/Tejada
    5      Repre      379      
    6      Comodoro      377      
    7      Blues_in_the_Bottle      354      
    8      RedheadDane      348      
    9      EvansIsTheBest      341      
    10      Greenedge      335      
    10      Rufs      335      
    12      LukasCPH      325      
    13      JumboVismaFan      324      
    14      Scrooll07      323      
    15      SafeBet      319      
    16      Madrazo      318      
    17      Josedin      291      
    18      JonEzeitza      285      
    19      Cordi      262      
    20      Kazistuta      261      
    21      Berflamand      252      
    22      Del1962      247      
    23      LosBrolin      246      
    24      Riverside      245      
    25      Ray10      243      
    26      Otoxiep87      238      
    27      Laarsland      229      
    28      DevilsElbow      225      
    29      Bonimenier      224      
    30      Skidmark      223      
    31      AmisVelo      214      
    32      Vladimir      209      
    33      Squire      199      
    34      Nyssinator      181      
    35      Fivezzz      174      
    36      Nakazar      173      
    36      RoteLaterne      173      
    38      Koronin      166      
    39      EdkDeus      161      
    40      Leadbelly      113      
          CollectiveWisdom      267      
          CollectiveIgnorance      655   Hindsgaul/Vauquelin/Wirtgen   
          MainGame2022      255      
          Goodin2021      527   

    Standings
    There were far more points available in February than January, so this is very much weighted towards this month.

    Rank Team Total Change in position
    1      Nathanptz      769      13
    2      Bminchow      621      12
    3      Salvarani      594      29
    4      Greenedge      574      -3
    5      Rufs      535      -1
    6      Armchair_Cyclist      524      16
    7      SafeBet      516      -2
    8      Scrooll07      513      2
    9      JumboVismaFan      504      5
    10      Madrazo      498      4
    11      Repre      479      16
    12      Blues_in_the_Bottle      454      15
    13      Kazistuta      451      -3
    14      LosBrolin      443      -9
    15      Cordi      442      -1
    15      Berflamand      442      -5
    17      LukasCPH      425      10
    18      Laarsland      424      -10
    19      Ray10      423      -5
    20      DevilsElbow      422      -15
    21      Bonimenier      414      -11
    22      Squire      407      -20
    23      Josedin      401      1
    24      Comodoro      394      10
    24      AmisVelo      394      -10
    26      Nakazar      380      -23
    27      Nyssinator      376      -19
    28      Riverside      358      -5
    29      Del1962      357      -5
    30      Fivezzz      354      -16
    31      RedheadDane      348      5
    32      Otoxiep87      343      -6
    33      EvansIsTheBest      341      3
    34      Skidmark      303      -1
    35      JonEzeitza      295      0
    36      RoteLaterne      273      -9
    37      Koronin      259      -6
    38      Vladimir      209      -2
    39      EdkDeus      161      -3
    40      Leadbelly      113      -4
          CollectiveWisdom      447      
          CollectiveIgnorance      1031      
          MainGame2022      435      
          Goodin2021      532   

    That's a big lead for so early in the game, but it will only be relevant if Van Gils, Charmig, Ayuso and Plapp remain at the top of this cohort for another three years.

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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #24 on: April 04, 2022, 23:07 »
    Year 1, Month 3 28 February to 3 April

    The season has now started in earnest, and one of our popular picks, at least, looks like he means business with a fistful of results already.

    Rider Pts this month Teams Source
    DE LIE Arnaud      317      24   Win Monsere & Limburg/3rd Nokere/top ten Koksijde/De Panne/Le Samyn   
    AYUSO PESQUERA Juan      217      38   2nd Laigueglia/5th Catalunya
    ZINGLE Axel      116      9   Route Adelie win/Cholet 7th   
    VERNON Ethan      110      22   Catalunya stage win/Monsere 5th/Nokere 11th
    TIBERI Antonio      89      22   5th Coppi e Bartali/8th Ind & Art   
    ASKEY Lewis      84      20   2nd Loire Atlantique
    TURNER Benjamin      73      3      
    WAERENSKJOLD Søren      66      14      
    O'BRIEN Kelland      59      2      
    FERRON Valentin      54      3   

    5 very popular picks scoring well, so plenty of points around this month:

    Rank this month Pts this month Main scorers (+ De Lie & Ayuso)
    1      DevilsElbow      1056   Zingle/Vernon/Tiberi/Askey/Waerenskjold   
    2      Ray10      1028   Zingle/Askey/Turner/Waerenskjold/Ferron   
    3      Nakazar      991   Vernon/Tiberi/Askey/Waerenskjold   
    4      Scrooll07      970   Zingle/Tiberi/Askey/Waerenskjold
    5      Fivezzz      967   Zingle/Vernon/Tiberi/Askey
    6      Bonimenier      949      
    7      SafeBet      943      
    8      Squire      938      
    9      AmisVelo      934      
    10      Bminchow      917      
    11      Skidmark      910      
    12      Salvarani      909      
    13      Madrazo      879      
    14      Cordi      872      
    15      Greenedge      856      
    16      LosBrolin      838      
    17      Rufs      801      
    18      Laarsland      754      
    19      Berflamand      741      
    20      Nyssinator      730      
    21      JumboVismaFan      726      
    22      Nathanptz      722      
    23      Del1962      720      
    24      Kazistuta      699      
    25      JonEzeitza      602      
    26      EdkDeus      581      
    27      EvansIsTheBest      542      
    28      Armchair_Cyclist      503      
    29      Comodoro      484      
    30      RoteLaterne      482      
    31      Vladimir      477      
    32      Repre      471      
    33      LukasCPH      458      
    34      Josedin      450      
    35      Koronin      434      
    36      Blues_in_the_Bottle      418      
    37      Riverside      413      
    38      RedheadDane      354      
    39      Otoxiep87      328      
    40      Leadbelly      241      
          CollectiveWisdom      959      
          CollectiveIgnorance      703      
          MainGame2022      904      
          Goodin2021      552   

    Standings
    Most teams scored more in March than they had previously, so the table is still very volatile.

    Rank Team Total Change in position
    1      Bminchow      1538      1
    2      Salvarani      1503      1
    3      Nathanptz      1491      -2
    4      Scrooll07      1483      4
    5      DevilsElbow      1478      15
    6      SafeBet      1459      1
    7      Ray10      1451      12
    8      Greenedge      1430      -4
    9      Madrazo      1377      1
    10      Nakazar      1371      16
    11      Bonimenier      1363      10
    12      Squire      1345      10
    13      Rufs      1336      -8
    14      AmisVelo      1328      10
    15      Fivezzz      1321      15
    16      Cordi      1314      -1
    17      LosBrolin      1281      -3
    18      JumboVismaFan      1230      -9
    19      Skidmark      1213      15
    20      Berflamand      1183      -5
    21      Laarsland      1178      -3
    22      Kazistuta      1150      -9
    23      Nyssinator      1106      4
    24      Del1962      1077      5
    25      Armchair_Cyclist      1027      -19
    26      Repre      950      -15
    27      JonEzeitza      897      8
    28      EvansIsTheBest      883      5
    28      LukasCPH      883      -11
    30      Comodoro      878      -6
    31      Blues_in_the_Bottle      872      -19
    32      Josedin      851      -9
    33      Riverside      771      -5
    34      RoteLaterne      755      2
    35      EdkDeus      742      4
    36      RedheadDane      702      -5
    37      Koronin      693      0
    38      Vladimir      686      0
    39      Otoxiep87      671      -7
    40      Leadbelly      354      0
          CollectiveWisdom      1406      
          CollectiveIgnorance      1436      
          MainGame2022      1339      
          Goodin2021      1084   

    Collective Ignorance usually holds a huge lead until well into Year 2: maybe we didn't miss as many as we have in the past.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #25 on: May 04, 2022, 09:11 »
    Year 1 Month 4  4th April to 1st May

    Pts this monthTeams Main scoring races
    AYUSO PESQUERA Juan      162      38   4th in GC and stage 3rd in Romandie
    SHEFFIELD Magnus      140      15   Brabantse Pijl win   
    GALL Felix      118      1   12th Itzulia GC and 6th in Alps   
    TURNER Benjamin      117      3   Brabantse Pijl 4th & Paris-Roubaix 11th   
    ZINGLE Axel      112      9   5th Circuit Sarthe & 3rd Jura   
    PLAPP Lucas      84      30      
    JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland      72      11      
    DE LIE Arnaud      68      24      
    FERRON Valentin      63      3      
    VAN UDEN Casper      63      2      
    QUINN Sean      52      8   

    Take the inclusion of Ayuso and Sheffield as a given in the top teams whose scorers this month I mention.
    Rank this month Pts this month Main scorers
    1      Ray10      856   Turer/Zingle/Plapp/De Lie/Ferron   
    2      Nathanptz      714   Plapp/Johannessen/De Lie   
    3      Laarsland      683   Zingle/Plapp/De Lie   
    4      JumboVismaFan      652   Plapp/Johannessen/De Lie   
    5      Bonimenier      642   Plapp/Johannessen/De Lie   
    6      EvansIsTheBest      627   Zingle/Quinn
    7      Skidmark      615      
    8      Bminchow      604      
    9      LosBrolin      599      
    10      Berflamand      576      
    10      Repre      576      
    12      Comodoro      562      
    13      Greenedge      556      
    13      Cordi      556      
    15      Blues_in_the_Bottle      554      
    16      Squire      549      
    17      Kazistuta      543      
    18      Fivezzz      539      
    19      Josedin      536      
    20      SafeBet      508      
    21      DevilsElbow      506      
    22      Scrooll07      505      
    23      Madrazo      497      
    24      RoteLaterne      452      
    25      AmisVelo      446      
    26      Riverside      444      
    27      Nyssinator      440      
    28      Nakazar      439      
    29      Armchair_Cyclist      424      
    30      Salvarani      417      
    31      LukasCPH      415      
    32      Rufs      400      
    33      Otoxiep87      399      
    34      Del1962      394      
    35      JonEzeitza      389      
    36      EdkDeus      371      
    37      Vladimir      369      
    38      Koronin      335      
    39      RedheadDane      296      
    40      Leadbelly      178      
          CollectiveWisdom      586      
          CollectiveIgnorance      788      
          MainGame2022      573      
          Goodin2021      498   

    Standings
    4th month, 4th leader and still very large jumps in the table.
    Rank Team Total Change in position
    1      Ray10      2307      6
    2      Nathanptz      2205      1
    3      Bminchow      2142      -2
    4      Bonimenier      2005      7
    5      Scrooll07      1988      -1
    6      Greenedge      1986      2
    7      DevilsElbow      1984      -2
    8      SafeBet      1967      -2
    9      Salvarani      1920      -7
    10      Squire      1894      2
    11      JumboVismaFan      1882      7
    12      LosBrolin      1880      5
    13      Madrazo      1874      -4
    14      Cordi      1870      2
    15      Laarsland      1861      6
    16      Fivezzz      1860      -1
    17      Skidmark      1828      2
    18      Nakazar      1810      -8
    19      AmisVelo      1774      -5
    20      Berflamand      1759      0
    21      Rufs      1736      -8
    22      Kazistuta      1693      0
    23      Nyssinator      1546      0
    24      Repre      1526      2
    25      EvansIsTheBest      1510      3
    26      Del1962      1471      -2
    27      Armchair_Cyclist      1451      -2
    28      Comodoro      1440      2
    29      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1426      2
    30      Josedin      1387      2
    31      LukasCPH      1298      -3
    32      JonEzeitza      1286      -5
    33      Riverside      1215      0
    34      RoteLaterne      1207      0
    35      EdkDeus      1113      0
    36      Otoxiep87      1070      3
    37      Vladimir      1055      1
    38      Koronin      1028      -1
    39      RedheadDane      998      -3
    40      Leadbelly      532      0
          CollectiveWisdom      1992      
          CollectiveIgnorance      1943      
          MainGame2022      1912      
          Goodin2021      1582   

    A handful of these guys are in the Giro, but there are other races in May.
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #26 on: May 30, 2022, 19:02 »
    Year 1, Month 5 2nd to 29th May

    I'm about to find out what other racing I have been missing while focussed on the Giro...

    DE LIE Arnaud      207      24   Marcel Kint win/Tro Bro Leon 4th/Veenendaal 3rd
    ANDERSEN Idar      135      3   Boucles de l'Aulne win/Mayenne 8th
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      127      14   2nd and 3rd in stages and 28th on GC in Giro
    PLAPP Lucas      117      30   Tour of Norway 3rd
    ZINGLE Axel      76      9   
    NYS Thibau      73      12   
    SHEFFIELD Magnus      62      15   
    ZAMBANINI Edoardo      56      2   
    UIJTDEBROEKS Cian      50      25   

    This month
    1      Nakazar      743   De Lie/Leemreize/Plapp/Nys/Uijtdebroeks
    2      Bminchow      679   De Lie/Leemreize/Plapp/Sheffield/Uijtdebroeks
    3      Bonimenier      647   De Lie/Leemreize/Plapp/Nys/Uijtdebroeks
    4      Fivezzz      646   De Lie/Leemreize/Plapp/Zingle
    5      Madrazo      634   De Lie/Plapp/Zingle/Nys/Uijtdebroeks
    6      Scrooll07      631   De Lie/Leemreize/Plapp/Zingle
    7      SafeBet      625   
    8      Nathanptz      623   
    9      Squire      604   
    10      DevilsElbow      598   
    11      Berflamand      591   
    12      AmisVelo      589   
    13      JumboVismaFan      587   
    14      Ray10      577   
    15      Laarsland      572   
    16      LosBrolin      571   
    17      Nyssinator      553   
    18      Rufs      552   
    19      Kazistuta      485   
    20      Cordi      484   
    21      Greenedge      474   
    22      Skidmark      472   
    23      JonEzeitza      463   
    24      Josedin      456   
    25      Armchair_Cyclist      417   
    26      Salvarani      404   
    27      EvansIsTheBest      388   
    28      Otoxiep87      373   
    29      Del1962      365   
    30      Riverside      362   
    31      LukasCPH      351   
    32      Koronin      334   
    33      Blues_in_the_Bottle      312   
    34      Vladimir      278   
    35      Repre      270   
    35      Comodoro      270   
    37      EdkDeus      269   
    38      RoteLaterne      256   
    39      RedheadDane      231   
    40      Leadbelly      106   
          CollectiveWisdom      651   
          CollectiveIgnorance      341   
          MainGame2022      612   
          Goodin2021      344   

    Standings
    Surprisingly stable for so early in the game
    1      Ray10      2884      0
    2      Nathanptz      2828      0
    3      Bminchow      2821      0
    4      Bonimenier      2652      0
    5      Scrooll07      2619      0
    6      SafeBet      2592      2
    7      DevilsElbow      2582      0
    8      Nakazar      2553      10
    9      Madrazo      2508      4
    10      Fivezzz      2506      6
    11      Squire      2498      -1
    12      JumboVismaFan      2469      -1
    13      Greenedge      2460      -7
    14      LosBrolin      2451      -2
    15      Laarsland      2433      0
    16      AmisVelo      2363      3
    17      Cordi      2354      -3
    18      Berflamand      2350      2
    19      Salvarani      2324      -10
    20      Skidmark      2300      -3
    21      Rufs      2288      0
    22      Kazistuta      2178      0
    23      Nyssinator      2099      0
    24      EvansIsTheBest      1898      1
    25      Armchair_Cyclist      1868      2
    26      Josedin      1843      4
    27      Del1962      1836      -1
    28      Repre      1796      -4
    29      JonEzeitza      1749      3
    30      Blues_in_the_Bottle      1738      -1
    31      Comodoro      1710      -3
    32      LukasCPH      1649      -1
    33      Riverside      1577      0
    34      RoteLaterne      1463      0
    35      Otoxiep87      1443      1
    36      EdkDeus      1382      -1
    37      Koronin      1362      1
    38      Vladimir      1333      -1
    39      RedheadDane      1229      0
    40      Leadbelly      638      0
          CollectiveWisdom      2643      
          CollectiveIgnorance      2152      
          MainGame2022      2524      
          Goodin2021      1926   
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #27 on: July 04, 2022, 23:59 »
    Year 1 Month 6 30 May to 3 July

    DE LIE Arnaud      259      24   Heistse Pijl and Limburg wins with 6th in Nats and Aarschot   
    HOOLE Daan      130      9   2nd (RR) and 3rd (TT) in Nats   
    TURNER Benjamin      120      3   5th ZLM tour and 4th Nats.   
    ZINGLE Axel      96      9   3rd in Nats   
    BARONCINI Filippo      90      32   5th in both Nats races   
    BAYER Tobias      86      11      
    WILLEMS Thimo      78      1      
    VAN TRICHT Stan      68      15      
    PICCOLO Andrea      67      15      
    HEALY Ben      60      4   

    1      LosBrolin      855   De Lie/Baroncini/Bayer/Piccolo   
    2      Bonimenier      836   De Lie/Hoole/Turner/Baroncini/Van Tricht   
    3      Scrooll07      812   De Lie/Hoole/Zingle/Baroncini/Van Tricht   
    4      Nakazar      805      
    5      Berflamand      803      
    6      Fivezzz      800      
    7      Madrazo      797      
    8      Ray10      761      
    8      Laarsland      761      
    10      Skidmark      749      
    11      Kazistuta      739      
    12      DevilsElbow      736      
    13      Rufs      733      
    14      Squire      714      
    15      Bminchow      702      
    16      Salvarani      693      
    17      JumboVismaFan      686      
    18      SafeBet      655      
    19      Cordi      632      
    20      Nyssinator      609      
    21      Koronin      570      
    22      Greenedge      548      
    23      AmisVelo      537      
    24      Nathanptz      517      
    25      EvansIsTheBest      516      
    26      RoteLaterne      513      
    27      Comodoro      504      
    28      Otoxiep87      471      
    29      Repre      459      
    30      Del1962      456      
    31      JonEzeitza      453      
    32      Josedin      452      
    33      EdkDeus      412      
    34      Vladimir      375      
    35      LukasCPH      360      
    36      Blues_in_the_Bottle      358      
    37      RedheadDane      327      
    38      Armchair_Cyclist      321      
    39      Leadbelly      276      
    40      Riverside      244      
          CollectiveWisdom      728      
          CollectiveIgnorance      950   Double/Govekar/Van Poucke   
          MainGame2022      672      
          Goodin2021      439   

    Standings
    The positional changes are mainly small, but so are the gaps.
    1      Ray10      3645      0
    2      Bminchow      3523      1
    3      Bonimenier      3488      1
    4      Scrooll07      3431      1
    5      Nakazar      3358      3
    6      Nathanptz      3345      -4
    7      DevilsElbow      3318      0
    8      LosBrolin      3306      6
    8      Fivezzz      3306      2
    10      Madrazo      3305      -1
    11      SafeBet      3247      -5
    12      Squire      3212      -1
    13      Laarsland      3194      2
    14      JumboVismaFan      3155      -2
    15      Berflamand      3153      3
    16      Skidmark      3049      4
    17      Rufs      3021      4
    18      Salvarani      3017      1
    19      Greenedge      3008      -6
    20      Cordi      2986      -3
    21      Kazistuta      2917      1
    22      AmisVelo      2900      -6
    23      Nyssinator      2708      0
    24      EvansIsTheBest      2414      0
    25      Josedin      2295      1
    26      Del1962      2292      1
    27      Repre      2255      1
    28      Comodoro      2214      3
    29      JonEzeitza      2202      0
    30      Armchair_Cyclist      2189      -5
    31      Blues_in_the_Bottle      2096      -1
    32      LukasCPH      2009      0
    33      RoteLaterne      1976      1
    34      Koronin      1932      3
    35      Otoxiep87      1914      0
    36      Riverside      1821      -3
    37      EdkDeus      1794      -1
    38      Vladimir      1708      0
    39      RedheadDane      1556      0
    40      Leadbelly      914      0
          CollectiveWisdom      3371      
          CollectiveIgnorance      2770      
          MainGame2022      3196      
          Goodin2021      2365   
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    Re: 2022-2024 Emerging Riders CQ Game
    « Reply #28 on: August 11, 2022, 13:33 »
    Year 1, month 7 4th July to 7th August

    A week later than I would have intended, but so long as I get it done before the Vuelta game gets going...

    Best scorers in this period:
    PICCOLO Andrea      122      15   6th in Sibiu/7th Villafranca/2nd Getxo
    AYUSO PESQUERA Juan      116      38   win Getxo/4th Villafranca
    CHARMIG Anthon      96      4   2nd Sazka Tour
    UIJTDEBROEKS Cian      79      25   3rd in Sibiu
    LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier      58      2   
    VAN GILS Maxim      56      13   
    STAUNE-MITTET Johannes      55      3   
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      53      14   
    MONIQUET Sylvain      50      1   
    WANDAHL Frederik      50      2   


    1      Otoxiep87      640   Piccolo/Ayuso/Uijtdebroecks/Lazkano/Leemrize
    2      Nathanptz      569   Piccolo/Ayuso/Charmig/Van Gils/Leemrize
    3      Salvarani      560   Piccolo/Ayuso/Charmig/Van Gils/Wandahl
    4      SafeBet      556   Piccolo/Ayuso/Uijtdebroecks/Van Gils
    5      Laarsland      518   Piccolo/Ayuso/Uijtdebroecks
    6      Squire      487   
    7      Berflamand      484   
    8      Kazistuta      481   
    9      Skidmark      480   
    10      Comodoro      479   
    11      LosBrolin      472   
    12      Vladimir      467   
    13      RoteLaterne      458   
    14      Armchair_Cyclist      453   
    15      Bminchow      451   
    16      EvansIsTheBest      444   
    17      Madrazo      441   
    18      Repre      399   
    19      Cordi      391   
    20      Greenedge      390   
    21      Bonimenier      383   
    22      Nyssinator      381   
    23      EdkDeus      380   
    24      Rufs      375   
    25      AmisVelo      372   
    26      Josedin      361   
    27      Ray10      348   
    28      Nakazar      328   
    29      JonEzeitza      323   
    30      LukasCPH      322   
    31      Fivezzz      309   
    32      Scrooll07      306   
    33      Riverside      299   
    33      RedheadDane      299   
    35      JumboVismaFan      293   
    36      Del1962      280   
    37      Blues_in_the_Bottle      268   
    38      Koronin      266   
    39      DevilsElbow      219   
    40      Leadbelly      164   
          CollectiveWisdom      537   
          CollectiveIgnorance      120   
          MainGame2022      478   
          Goodin2021      385   

    Standings
    Ray remains on top, despite a poor score this time around.  The top scorers this time were largely those in very humble positions, so maybe that indicates that this might be a more competitive edition (or maybe it is just that De Lie had a relatively quiet month)

    1      Ray10      3993      0
    2      Bminchow      3974      0
    3      Nathanptz      3914      3
    4      Bonimenier      3871      -1
    5      SafeBet      3803      6
    6      LosBrolin      3778      2
    7      Madrazo      3746      3
    8      Scrooll07      3737      -4
    9      Laarsland      3712      4
    10      Squire      3699      2
    11      Nakazar      3686      -6
    12      Berflamand      3637      3
    13      Fivezzz      3615      -5
    14      Salvarani      3577      4
    15      DevilsElbow      3537      -8
    16      Skidmark      3529      0
    17      JumboVismaFan      3448      -3
    18      Kazistuta      3398      3
    18      Greenedge      3398      1
    20      Rufs      3396      -3
    21      Cordi      3377      -1
    22      AmisVelo      3272      0
    23      Nyssinator      3089      0
    24      EvansIsTheBest      2858      0
    25      Comodoro      2693      3
    26      Josedin      2656      -1
    27      Repre      2654      0
    28      Armchair_Cyclist      2642      2
    29      Del1962      2572      -3
    30      Otoxiep87      2554      5
    31      JonEzeitza      2525      -2
    32      RoteLaterne      2434      1
    33      Blues_in_the_Bottle      2364      -2
    34      LukasCPH      2331      -2
    35      Koronin      2198      -1
    36      Vladimir      2175      2
    37      EdkDeus      2174      0
    38      Riverside      2120      -2
    39      RedheadDane      1855      0
    40      Leadbelly      1078      0
          CollectiveWisdom      3908      
          CollectiveIgnorance      2890      
          MainGame2022      3674      
          Goodin2021      2750   

    Next update will again be a bit over a month: I can't see me giving it time until after the Vuelta game is finished.
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