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106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
« on: April 01, 2022, 12:01 »


Tour of Flanders 2022

It's again time for arguably the most "popular" classic of our time, namely the Tour of Flanders. The Flemish crowd might be cheering along the road like before the corona pandemics as we are slowly but surely getting out of it. However, they will most probably have to do without their favourite Wout van Aert who is sick and still unlikely to race at this hour.

The route hasn't changed a lot from 2021 but for the Achterberg, which replaces the Eikenberg as third climb, early on and for the distance. 272.5 km compared to 254 km  in 2021 !


It's still a route from Antwerp to Oudenaarde and like every year I still miss the old route from Bruges to Meerbeke-Ninove with the Kapelmuur-Bosberg finale that is now the Omloop Het Nieuwsblad finale. Last time was in 2011. That climb combo which gave Edwig Van Hooydonck his nickname "Eddy Bosberg" as he twice won the race in 1989 and in 1991 after a late attack on that previous final climb, where Wout van Aert attacked himself on the last Omloop Het Nieusblad. The 1991 attack was really impressive. None of both climbs are on this year's route, just like last year. No Kapelmuur anymore ! It's getting long.



The Climbs

Oude Kwaremont (136 km) [2,200 m; 4%]
Kortekeer (126 km) [1,260 m; 6.4%]
Achterberg (119,2) [1,500 m; 4.4%]
Wolvenberg (114 km) [650 m; 7.9%]
Molenberg (102 km) [460 m; 7%]
Marlboroughstraat (98 km) [2,040 m; 3%]
Berendries (94 km) [940 m; 7%]
Valkenberg (88 km) [550 m; 8.2%]
Berg Ten Houte (76 km) [1,100 m; 6%]
Kanarieberg (71 km) [1,000 m; 7.7%]
Oude Kwaremont (55 km) [2,200 m; 4%]
Paterberg (51 km) [360 m; 12.9%]
Koppenberg (45 km) [600 m; 11.6%]
Steenbeekdries (39 km) [700 m; 5.3%]
Taaienberg (37 km) [530 m; 6.6%]
Kruisberg-Hotond (26.5 km) [2,500 m; 5%]
Oude Kwaremont (16.7 km) [2,200 m; 4%]
Paterberg (13.3 km) [360 m; 12.9%]

Flat cobbles

Lippenhovestraat (169 km)
Paddestraat (167 km)
Holleweg (117 km)
Kerkgate (111 km)
Jagerij (108 km)
Mariaborrestraat (41 km)
Stationsberg (39 km)

Start list is here with Van Aert still on it.

(Sorry I don't know how to embed a start list from Procyclingstats)

Men's race starts at 10am and is expected to finish at 4.47pm CET. It will be a very cold edition. It's been snowing last night in Brussels. Live coverage starts at 9.15am CET, which means full coverage !

Women's race starts at 1.25pm and is expected to finish at 5.44pm CET, with coverage from 3.00pm on.
http://www.cyclingfans.com/ronde-van-vlaanderen/live


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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #1 on: April 01, 2022, 13:04 »
    Start list is here with Van Aert still on it.

    (Sorry I don't know how to embed a start list from Procyclingstats)

    we can not embed Procyclingstats, but Firstcycling

    Link: https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=5&y=2022&k=8

    and to embed, it needs the race number and year: [ fcs ]r=5&y=2022&k=start[ /fcs ] (although still not working perfectly, unfortunately, as the bottom part is cut off more often than not)

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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #2 on: April 01, 2022, 13:14 »
    but well, yeah, really looking forward to it as well, of course :).

    Personally I was a bit afraid about a van Aert/MvdP dominance, to be honest. Their attacking style is great of course, but combined with the strongest team #jumbo, and their preference to go up the road as early as possible, it tends to erase all tactical options from the Ronde. And "underdogs" anticipating the moves, going early, and still fight for the win with the favourites, always used to be something I really liked about the race - which obviously is hard to do when the favourite attacks with 50k out like in 2020.

    As sad as it is for van Aert, him not at 100% (or not at the start at all), looks likely to open up the race quite a lot more, especially if Jumbo tries to play out their numbers now. Van der Poel looked good on Wednesday, but not sure he's at 100% yet (also said others were better than him in the post race interview).
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #3 on: April 01, 2022, 14:25 »
    Thanks Search, you're a genius.  :D

    Yes, you might be right. Van Aert's absence might open up the race but on the other hand, it could also be a total dominance by Van der Poel. I'm wondering how Mathieu will peak. He resumed racing at Milan-Sanremo, so he should still be very fresh indeed (despite his intensive training in Spain ;)). He might very well go all the way through to Liège-Bastogne-Liège and be a contender at every spring classic, which would be a long time no see.


    By the way, just learned an - in my opinion - disappointing news. The current Tour of Flanders finish in Oudenaarde will remain unchanged till 2028, says De Standaard (29th March 2022).
    https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20220329_93866786

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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #4 on: April 01, 2022, 15:03 »
    Pogacar will be interesting to follow as well, of course. Not sure he is as much of a favourite as many people seem to think, but this quote from Naesen about him is interesting:

    On Wednesday at Dwars Pogačar did not make the move with the front group when he needed to, and as a result was forced to chase off the back, and never returned to the front of the race.

    "I said to one of your colleagues, Pogačar was not not in the front because he doesn't have good legs, he has probably the best legs in the world," he argues. "But even if you are Pogačar x2 and you are at the bottom of a decisive climb that is three metres wide, as long as he doesn't grow wings to fly over the other riders, he will not be in the first group on the top, and that's what it is.

    "The rest of the bunch is also still strong. If there's a nice group on the front like we saw yesterday, they're not going to wait for him."

    However, "Flanders is different", the Flandrian explained.

    "You can divide the 270km course into different sections and each section is sort of a quality filter where the best go through, and the lesser gods stay behind. For somebody like Pogačar who can always move up move up move up, that's better.

    "If he goes to the last climb in a twenty-man group, positioning is no longer an issue for him. He will definitely be in better shape than yesterday."


    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racing/oliver-naesen-no-wout-van-aert-at-tour-of-flanders-changes-everything
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #5 on: April 01, 2022, 17:50 »
     Hard to believe that Phil Gilbert won’t be riding the Ronde, but can be seen instead in the Volta Limburg, tomorrow.
    Just as surprising is that he’ll be rubbing shoulders with Tom Dumoulin.
    I am pleased for the race though, as it’s one of those little gems. Watched it for years on L1 who always have comprehensive coverage.
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #6 on: April 01, 2022, 20:00 »
    Wout is confirmed as out with Covid.
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #7 on: April 02, 2022, 11:47 »
    Wout is now uncertain for Paris-Roubaix. He tweeted a video, which you can see with Eng subs on the following link https://www.rtl.be/sport/tous-les-sports/velo/wout-van-aert-annonce-qu-il-ne-participera-pas-au-tour-des-flandres-1367634.aspx

    It should be frustrating as I understand that he never had the virus in two years and now gets it at the worst moment. He realises that before and after every race, they are all exposed and with restrictive measures being slowly but surely lift out, risks get higher. If I remember his comments correctly !

    However he says he just has mild symptoms (sore throat, cold) and is hopeful to get back to competition soon.
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #8 on: April 02, 2022, 11:55 »
    However he says he just has mild symptoms (sore throat, cold) and is hopeful to get back to competition soon.

    yeah, let's hope so. But Tim Declercq also had mild symptoms only, and it still resulted in 6 weeks off the bike. That's a rare case of course, but I guess after what happened to Colbrelli, everyone will likely to be a bit more cautious (for a couple of weeks at least ;) ).

    And yes, the UCI has sent out a memo to all organizers, asking them to still do as much as possible to prevent covid cases (no matter the official rules in that country), but obviously this is not going to have much effect anymore. The riders can wear as mask if they like, and that's basically it.
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #9 on: April 02, 2022, 18:21 »
    in case there's still any doubt who's gonna win

    https://twitter.com/GroupamaFDJ/status/1509945252529983493
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #10 on: April 03, 2022, 11:17 »
    Hard to believe that Phil Gilbert won’t be riding the Ronde, but can be seen instead in the Volta Limburg, tomorrow.
    Just as surprising is that he’ll be rubbing shoulders with Tom Dumoulin.
    I am pleased for the race though, as it’s one of those little gems. Watched it for years on L1 who always have comprehensive coverage.

    And he finished 10th while Dumoulin was 6th and a win for Phil's teammate Arnaud De Lie. It might be Philippe Gilbert's last top10 of his career. Had he raced the Tour of Flanders, he might've finished anonymously 144th just like in Milan-Sanremo. So good choice ! :D
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #11 on: April 03, 2022, 11:31 »
    Trying to look back in history to see how often you had a longer distance at the Tour of Flanders.

    The 1st edition is still the longest of them all. The second one was quite long as well but after World War I you already had pretty much the format we know. I didn't remember that Bettiol won an edition that is close in length to today's. And my bad, last year's edition was 263 and not 254 km. Only 12 edition were equal or superior to 272 km.

    1913 :   324   Deman
    1914 :   280   Buysse M

    1919 :   230   Van Lerberghe H
    1920 :   248   Vanhevel
    1924 :   284   Debaets
    1950 :   273   Magni
    1951 :   274   Magni
    1965 :   272   De Roo

    1973 :   260   Leman
    1974 :   256   Bal
    1975   :       255   Merckx
    1976 :   261   Planckaert Wa
    1977 :   260   De Vlaeminck
    1978 :    260   Godefroot
    1979 :   267   Raas
    1980 :   265   Pollentier
    1981 :   267   Kuiper
    1982 :    262   Martens R
    1983 :   272   Raas
    1984 :   268   Lammerts
    1985 :   271   Vanderaerden
    1986 :   275   Van der Poel A
    1987 :   274   Criquielion
    1988 :   279   Planckaert E

    1989 :   264   Van Hooydonck
    1990 :   265   Argentin
    1991 :   261   Van Hooydonck
    1992 :   260   Durand
    1993 :   263   Museeuw
    1994 :   268   Bugno
    1995 :   261   Museeuw
    1996 :   269   Bartoli
    1997 :   256   Sörensen
    1998 :   277   Museeuw
    1999 :   270   Van Petegem
    2000 :   269   Tchmil
    2001 :   269   Bortolami
    2002 :   264   Tafi
    2003 :   254   Van Petegem
    2004 :   242   Wesemann
    2005 :   256   Boonen
    2006 :   258   Boonen
    2007 :   256   Ballan
    2008 :   264   Devolder
    2009 :   259,7   Devolder
    2010   :      262,3   Cancellara
    2011 :   256,3   Nuyens
    2012 :   256,9   Boonen
    2013 :   256,2   Cancellara
    2014 :   259   Cancellara
    2015 :   264   Kristoff
    2016 :   255,9   Sagan
    2017 :   260,8   Gilbert
    2018 :   264,7   Terpstra
    2019 :   270,1   Bettiol
    2020 :   243,3   Van der Poel M
    2021 :   263,7   Asgreen
    2022 :   272,5   





     
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #12 on: April 03, 2022, 13:08 »
    https://www.msn.com/fr-be/actualite/other/renaix-un-homme-d%C3%A9c%C3%A8de-dans-un-incendie-sur-le-parcours-du-tour-des-flandres/ar-AAVNIOQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f140108a80ce427e9324e61b99ed75c4

    An 80 year old man passes away in a fire last night (Saturday to Sunday) in Ronse (Renaix). The house is on the Tour of Flanders route. The fire seems to have been deliberate and might be a suicide.  :( The organisation and the firefighters are considering whether the route has to be modified. I don't know if they referred to it on the live coverage. I'm not watching yet.
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #13 on: April 03, 2022, 23:16 »
    To me the 2022 edition of the Tour of Flanders could've been one for history if it wasn't for Pogacar's poker in the final kilometer. His first attack on the Old Kwaremont was phenomenal he made it look so easy. I think he surprised Mathieu van der Poel in attacking so early. Just like he attacked too early on the Poggio a fortnight ago. Mathieu was not on his wheel. He didn't expect him to attack that early but if he had been attentive he would've countered. Fortunately for Mathieu, he had more than enough time to come back after that and was always attentive afterwards. I think having a Tour of France winner as a contender on these early spring classics adds a lot to these races : Milan Sanremo and the Tour of Flanders. The last Tour of France winners to top10 Milan-Sanremo and The Tour of Flanders should be Greg LeMond. LeMond was 2nd to Kelly in the 1986 Milan-Sanremo and 7th at the 1985 Tour of Flanders. Gianni Bugno was the last GT winner to win both classics (of course there's an asterisk to his performances). Only Louison Bobet and Eddy Merckx have won both the Tours of France and of Flanders (and same year). When such powerful riders come to the classics, then only the top riders come to the front. I'm sure Mathieu van der Poel would consider this victory greater than the first one (even though a first victory is always something special).

    It begs the question what if Wout van Aert was in the race. My opinion is that he wouldn't have been able to follow the super duo but we'll never know.
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    Re: 106th Tour of Flanders [272.5km]
    « Reply #14 on: April 03, 2022, 23:23 »
    If you allow me a trip down on memory lane ! Liège-Bastogne-Liège 1987 ! 5 minutes from finish Stephen Roche and the late Claude Criquiélion still had a 1' lead on a trio with Yvon Madiot, Moreno Argentin and Robert Millar. But then Roche refused to take turns. He was so afraid of finishing 2nd. The two leaders were standing still and they let the chasers come back. Argentin surprisingly won his first Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Roche was 2nd.

    Pogacar almost did the same dirty joke to Van der Poel as Roche did to Criquiélion. Chasers came back but Mathieu still could handle them in the sprint.  :lol

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