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2022 Giro CQ Game
« on: April 27, 2022, 19:30 »
Here we go again:
For those who already know how it all works, the key info is unchanged budget of 3500, 8 men rider prices as of update to be released on 2nd May, submit by start of stage 1 on 6th May, and selection spreadsheet is here.


If you found it necessary to read beyond that, you might be new to the games, in which case you are very welcome.

In the Giro CQ Game your challenge is to select a team of 8 riders that will be competing in the Giro: your team remains unchanged throughout, for better or worse.  There is no selecting different riders for different stages, any more than the DSes get to do so.
The restriction on your team is that they must have a total cost of 3500 or less, based on their CQ points gained for the year to 1st May.  That is determined by a download of scores that should be available on the afternoon of Monday 2nd May on that excellent website, which I shall upload to a selection tool here  (If you prefer not to use that tool, you are looking for the red number in a white box just below the old-fashioned fuel gauge style meter in the top right of a rider's page, such as this example that you won't be using, but that figure can change from day to day: it is the number as of the end of Sunday 1st that matters).

Your selected riders can gain points according to the CQ scale for GC position (500 for the winner, then 375, 315, 265, 240 down to 135 for 10th, 44 for 30th, 16 for 50th and 15 for all finishers below that), for being awarded the Pink jersey (18 points per stage, except the last one), for stage position (70 points, then 40, 25, 15, 10 down to 1 for 10th) and for final ranking in the climbing and points classifications (same distribution as for stages, no points for leading the classification during the race, no points for the young rider classification).

I will update daily, real life permitting, with a table based on each team's projected finish if nothing were to change in the classifications from that point on, and also with a secondary classification ("purplish points", because I won't concede that that colour is described as cyclamen in English) based only on stage finish points.  Some managers like to stack their teams with sprinters and breakaway riders with an eye on that prize.

To enter, please sent your list of 8 riders (please do not append info like their cost or teams, it creates extra work for me) to me by PM on either Cycling News Forum or VeloRooms (you will contribute to the average score of your chosen platform in the inter-Forum challenge) by the start of the race on Friday 6th (11:40 CET I believe).  I will lodge my selection with the first entrant (usually Comodoro, but sometimes others are faster) as soon as possible to ensure I am above suspicion.  PLEASE send the riders' names in the form in which they appear on the CQ site (and therefore in the selection spreadsheet), otherwise entering your team becomes much more laborious.  And while you can start planning, please do not submit your teams until the prices are finalised: if riders are doing Romandie or Eschborn-Frankfurt, or if they did them last year, the numbers will probably be wrong.

If you do not leave submitting your team until the last minute, I should be able to warn you if there is any error and give you a chance to change it.  I do have a strangely contrived set of criteria by which replacements are selected if you are over budget or have a non-starter, but I'll only post it if necessary.

Please do have a go: it's a bit of fun, and it feels far more worth my time if there is a good number of entrants.  Feel free to publicise it wherever seems appropriate.

And as I usually say on my PMs to confirm receipt of teams, good luck to your teams, and enjoy the game and the Giro.

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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #1 on: May 02, 2022, 16:59 »
    OK  the price download is in place, so the selection spreadsheet has been updated.  15 out of 22 teams have confirmed their lineups.


    Only about 3 1/2 days to get your teams in: let's go!

    Edit: And as predicted, Comodoro is the first to get his team in, and mine is on record with him.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #2 on: May 02, 2022, 20:34 »
    here's also the usual startlist with cq values:

    #ineos      INEOS GRENADIERS      :cool      #ag2r      AG2R CITROEN TEAM      :cool   
          CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      1552            VENDRAME Andrea      373   
          CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan      141            CALMEJANE Lilian      222   
          TULETT Ben      245            CHEREL Mikael      51   
          NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel      191            GALL Felix      187   
          PORTE Richie      591            HÄNNINEN Jaakko      37   
          PUCCIO Salvatore      30            PETERS Nans      45   
          SIVAKOV Pavel      289            PRODHOMME Nicolas      32   
          SWIFT Ben      164            NAESEN Lawrence      113   
                3203                  1060   
    #alpecin      ALPECIN-FENIX      :cool      #astana      ASTANA QAZAQSTAN TEAM      :cool   
          VAN DER POEL Mathieu      1380            NIBALI Vincenzo      344   
          BAYER Tobias      143            CONTI Valerio      119   
          DE BONDT Dries      367            DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David      549   
          KRIEGER Alexander      31            DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd      167   
          LEYSEN Senne      48            FELLINE Fabio      122   
          MARECZKO Jakub      124            LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      507   
          OLDANI Stefano      270            PRONSKIY Vadim      117   
          RIESEBEEK Oscar      195            TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso      86   
                2558                  2011   
    #bahrain      BAHRAIN VICTORIOUS      :cool      #bardiani      BARDIANI CSF FAIZANE'      :cool   
          BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      970            ZANA Filippo      389   
          BAUHAUS Phil      492            COVILI Luca      154   
          BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago      312            FIORELLI Filippo      217   
          LANDA MEANA Mikel      393            GABBURO Davide      160   
          NOVAK Domen      41            MODOLO Sacha      50   
          POELS Wout      528            RASTELLI Luca      22   
          SÜTTERLIN Jasha      70            TONELLI Alessandro      47   
          TRATNIK Jan      505            ZOCCARATO Samuele      138   
                3311                  1177   
    #bora      BORA - HANSGROHE      :cool      #cofidis      COFIDIS      :cool   
          KELDERMAN Wilco      544            MARTIN Guillaume      941   
          ALEOTTI Giovanni      406            CIMOLAI Davide      203   
          BENEDETTI Cesare      75            CONSONNI Simone      440   
          BUCHMANN Emanuel      177            KREDER Wesley      55   
          GAMPER Patrick      80            PEREZ Anthony      270   
          HINDLEY Jai      363            PERICHON Pierre-Luc      223   
          KÄMNA Lennard      184            ROCHAS Rémy      212   
          ZWIEHOFF Ben      79            VILLELLA Davide      268   
                1908                  2612   
    #drone      DRONE HOPPER - ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI      :cool      #ef      EF EDUCATION - EASYPOST      :cool   
          TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit      308            CORT NIELSEN Magnus      459   
          BAIS Mattia      119            CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever      48   
          CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander      164            CAMARGO PINEDA Diego Andres      45   
          TAGLIANI Filippo      55            CARR Simon      153   
          PONOMAR Andriy      53            CARTHY Hugh      263   
          RAVANELLI Simone      86            DOULL Owain      64   
          ZARDINI Edoardo      88            KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin      211   
          SEPULVEDA Eduardo      326            VAN DEN BERG Julius      95   
                1199                  1338   
    #eolo      EOLO-KOMETA CYCLING TEAM      :cool      #groupama      GROUPAMA - FDJ      :cool   
          FORTUNATO Lorenzo      506            DEMARE Arnaud      790   
          ALBANESE Vincenzo      455            DAVY Clément      49   
          BAIS Davide      39            GUARNIERI Jacopo      25   
          FETTER Erik      72            KONOVALOVAS Ignatas      45   
          GAVAZZI Francesco      128            LUDVIGSSON Tobias      81   
          MAESTRI Mirco      50            SCOTSON Miles      40   
          RIVI Samuele      79            SINKELDAM Ramon      35   
          ROSA Diego      49            VALTER Attila      446   
                1378                  1511   
    #iwg      INTERMARCHÉ - WANTY - GOBERT MATÉRIAUX      :cool      #israel      ISRAEL - PREMIER TECH      :cool   
          GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      721            NIZZOLO Giacomo      812   
          DE GENDT Aimé      214            BRÄNDLE Matthias      72   
          HIRT Jan      352            CATAFORD Alexander      25   
          PEAK Barnabas      127            DE MARCHI Alessandro      397   
          VLIEGEN Loïc      188            DOWSETT Alex      44   
          POZZOVIVO Domenico      302            BIERMANS Jenthe      78   
          ROTA Lorenzo      495            HOLLENSTEIN Reto      56   
          TAARAMÄE Rein      318            ZABEL Rick      81   
                2717                  1565   
    #jumbo      JUMBO-VISMA      :cool      #lotto      LOTTO SOUDAL      :cool   
          DUMOULIN Tom      358            EWAN Caleb      472   
          AFFINI Edoardo      362            SELIG Rüdiger      45   
          BOUWMAN Koen      310            VANHOUCKE Harm      263   
          EENKHOORN Pascal      277            DE GENDT Thomas      30   
          FOSS Tobias Svendsen      362            HOLMES Matthew      37   
          LEEMREIZE Gijs      102            KLUGE Roger      20   
          OOMEN Sam      273            MONIQUET Sylvain      83   
          VAN EMDEN Jos      126            SCHWARZMANN Michael      31   
                2170                  981   
    #movistar      MOVISTAR TEAM      :cool      #quickstep      QUICK-STEP ALPHA VINYL TEAM      :cool   
          VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      1073            CAVENDISH Mark      938   
          ARCAS PEÑA Jorge      35            KNOX James      69   
          BARTA William      53            BALLERINI Davide      151   
          LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier      43            CERNY Josef      163   
          PEDRERO LOPEZ Antonio      300            SCHMID Mauro      249   
          ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin      66            VAN LERBERGHE Bert      183   
          SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio      96            MØRKØV CHRISTENSEN Michael      230   
          SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      269            VANSEVENANT Mauri      278   
                1935                  2261   
    #bikeexchange      TEAM BIKEEXCHANGE - JAYCO      :cool      #dsm      TEAM DSM      :cool   
          YATES Simon      975            BARDET Romain      925   
          CRADDOCK Lawson      181            ARENSMAN Thymen      287   
          HAMILTON Lucas      35            BOL Cees      149   
          HEPBURN Michael      20            COMBAUD Romain      95   
          HOWSON Damien      205            DAINESE Alberto      390   
          JUUL JENSEN Christopher      60            DENZ Nico      64   
          SCOTSON Callum      29            HAMILTON Chris      154   
          SOBRERO Matteo      297            TUSVELD Martijn      113   
                1802                  2177   
    #trek      TREK - SEGAFREDO      :cool      #uae      UAE TEAM EMIRATES      :cool   
          CICCONE Giulio      408            ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      1604   
          CATALDO Dario      62            OLIVEIRA Rui Filipe Alves      180   
          SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias      378            COSTA Rui Alberto Faria      387   
          LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      192            COVI Alessandro      669   
          MOLLEMA Bauke      743            FORMOLO Davide      300   
          MOSCA Jacopo      57            GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      484   
          THEUNS Edward      336            RICHEZE ARAQUISTAIN Maximiliano Ariel      62   
          VERGAERDE Otto      45            ULISSI Diego      1195   
                2221                  4881   

    edit: all confirmed now
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #3 on: May 04, 2022, 13:21 »
    All the teams are confirmed, but with 12 teams in so far, there are only 2 to represent VeloRooms.  This forum has a fine reputation to uphold on beating Cycling News in most of these games, so don't forget to contribute to the effort.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #4 on: May 04, 2022, 19:36 »
    I'm all in for pink!
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #5 on: May 05, 2022, 08:56 »
    Hmmm this isn't so easy this year. Usually there are a few essential low costing picks that enable you to spend big on a couple of guys, but I don't see them this time round.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #6 on: May 05, 2022, 13:04 »
    Hmmm this isn't so easy this year. Usually there are a few essential low costing picks that enable you to spend big on a couple of guys, but I don't see them this time round.

    Yeah.
    I currently have 3 versions of my team, all because I can't find an alternative for just one rider and decide which of two big spends to opt for...
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #7 on: May 05, 2022, 16:56 »
    My last gratuitous bumping of the thread to remind you to enter. 


    27 teams submitted so far (I hope I have acknowledged all of them), 61 different riders selected, 3 of them on more than half the teams, and 28 unique picks.


    My work appointment for Friday pm has been cancelled, so I'll be working on the lists and numbers while watching stage one.  Make sure your list of 8 is with me before it starts so that you are included. (and if you do it before about 8am UK time I'll be able to check it for you).


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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #8 on: May 06, 2022, 14:00 »
    And they're off

    37 teams, 71 riders, and (eventually) one winner.

    The teams
    Teams sorted alphabetically, riders by cost: asterisks for unique picks.

    Amis Velo
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       HINDLEY Jai   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       HEPBURN Michael   

    Archie Boy
       YATES Simon   
       POELS Wout   *
       EWAN Caleb   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   
       ALEOTTI Giovanni   *
       PEDRERO LOPEZ Antonio   *
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       KNOX James   

    Armchair Cyclist
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       YATES Simon   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       KNOX James   
       DENZ Nico   *
       PONOMAR Andriy   *
       HAMILTON Lucas   

    Berflamand
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       POZZOVIVO Domenico   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   

    Bicycle Boy
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       POZZOVIVO Domenico   
       KNOX James   
       ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin   *
       MODOLO Sacha   
       PETERS Nans   
       DE GENDT Thomas   

    Blues in the Bottle

       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       HINDLEY Jai   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
       DAVY Clément   *

    Bminchow
       GIRMAY HAILU Biniam   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   

    Bonimenier
       BARDET Romain   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   

    Comodoro
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       HINDLEY Jai   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       CIMOLAI Davide   

    Del1962
       BARDET Romain   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       KÄMNA Lennard   

    DJSprtsch
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       FIORELLI Filippo   
       CIMOLAI Davide   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd   *

    Evans is the Best

       GIRMAY HAILU Biniam   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       TAARAMÄE Rein   

    Josedin
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       DEMARE Arnaud   *
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       BALLERINI Davide   
       DE GENDT Thomas   
       HEPBURN Michael   

    Jumbo Visma Fan
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CORT NIELSEN Magnus   
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       VANSEVENANT Mauri   *
       GALL Felix   
       KÄMNA Lennard   

    Kazistuta
       YATES Simon   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       FELLINE Fabio   

    Laarsland
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       TAARAMÄE Rein   
       GALL Felix   
       CARR Simon   *
       BOL Cees   *
       MARECZKO Jakub   *

    Leadbelly
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       HINDLEY Jai   
       GALL Felix   
       KÄMNA Lennard   

    Manafana
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias   
       HINDLEY Jai   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   

    Mellow Velo
       ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves   *
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   
       DOWSETT Alex   

    Northerner
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       HINDLEY Jai   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   

    Nyssinator
       YATES Simon   
       KELDERMAN Wilco   
       EWAN Caleb   
       VALTER Attila   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   
       BALLERINI Davide   

    Otoxiep87
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       VALTER Attila   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       DOULL Owain   *

    RedHead Dane

       DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David   *
       BAUHAUS Phil   *
       DE BONDT Dries   *
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin   *
       KREDER Wesley   *
       TONELLI Alessandro   *
       DOWSETT Alex   

    Rote Laterne
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       HINDLEY Jai   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   

    Rufs
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       DUMOULIN Tom   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       HAMILTON Lucas   

    Safe Bet
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       CARTHY Hugh   

    Salvarani
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       BARDET Romain   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SIVAKOV Pavel   
       GALL Felix   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       KNOX James   
       PETERS Nans   

    Samu Cuenca
       MARTIN Guillaume   *
       DAINESE Alberto   *
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       POZZOVIVO Domenico   
       FIORELLI Filippo   
       GALL Felix   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       PETERS Nans   

    Scrooll07
       YATES Simon   
       BARDET Romain   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       CIMOLAI Davide   
       LEEMREIZE Gijs   *
       MODOLO Sacha   

    Search
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       POZZOVIVO Domenico   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander   
       BALLERINI Davide   

    Slow Climber
       YATES Simon   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   

    Titan31
       BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello   *
       GIRMAY HAILU Biniam   
       FORTUNATO Lorenzo   *
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       GALL Felix   
       HAMILTON Lucas   

    TRiley36
       YATES Simon   
       BARDET Romain   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro   *
       KÄMNA Lennard   
       ROSA Diego   

    Vladimir
       CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio   
       EWAN Caleb   
       CICCONE Giulio   
       NIBALI Vincenzo   
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       BUCHMANN Emanuel   
       FELLINE Fabio   
       PRONSKIY Vadim   *

    Will10
       YATES Simon   
       EWAN Caleb   
       VALTER Attila   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       VENDRAME Andrea   *
       FOSS Tobias Svendsen   
       SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro   
       KÄMNA Lennard   

    Yellow Knight
       VAN DER POEL Mathieu   
       LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       CARTHY Hugh   
       SCHMID Mauro   *
       GALL Felix   
       DE GENDT Thomas   

    Zigzag Wanderer
       YATES Simon   
       GIRMAY HAILU Biniam   
       EWAN Caleb   
       LANDA MEANA Mikel   
       TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit   *
       ARENSMAN Thymen   
       GALL Felix   
       ROSA Diego   
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #9 on: May 06, 2022, 15:06 »
    The riders

    An interesting distribution.  There were hardly any riders starting in the 700-900 bracket, where riders one might expect in the top ten would often be found and can be fairly popular picks.  That means that there are far more riders being picked in the 300-450 bracket (with some real gems in that range), so far fewer of the variety of under 100 pt riders, among whom in most years we would find a lot of the variety in picks, and the source of a large proportion of the number of riders relevant to the game.

    So, out of 37 teams, here are the numbers going for each rider:

    27: LANDA MEANA Mikel
    20: LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
    19: EWAN Caleb
    18: CARTHY Hugh, YATES Simon
    15: GALL Felix
    12: KÄMNA Lennard
    11: ARENSMAN Thymen
    Those eight have a within-budget total cost of 3268, so neatly define themselves as the Collective Wisdom team.

    9: CICCONE Giulio, DUMOULIN Tom
    8: FOSS Tobias Svendsen
    7: CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio, HINDLEY Jai
    6: SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro, VAN DER POEL Mathieu
    5: BARDET Romain, BUCHMANN Emanuel, GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
    4: GIRMAY HAILU Biniam, KNOX James, POZZOVIVO Domenico
    3: BALLERINI Davide, CIMOLAI Davide, DE GENDT Thomas, HAMILTON Lucas, KELDERMAN Wilco, NIBALI Vincenzo, PETERS Nans, VALTER Attila
    2: CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander, CORT NIELSEN Magnus, DOWSETT Alex, FELLINE Fabio, FIORELLI Filippo, HEPBURN Michael, MODOLO Sacha, ROSA Diego, SIVAKOV Pavel, SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias, TAARAMÄE Rein

    and I hope that if you were to count the asterisks above, there will be 31 of them.

    Popularity table
    The total of the popularity scores for each rider (Landa has 27, Lopez 20 etc)
    1 SlowClimber 136
    2      Leadbelly      127
    3      Rote_Laterne      117
    4      Bminchow      115
    5      Del1962      113
    5      Manafana      113
    5      Northerner      113
    5      SafeBet      113
    9      AmisVelo      111
    10      Kazistuta      110
    11      Yellow_Knight      109
    12      Bonimenier      108
    13      Berflamand      106
    13      Nyssinator      106
    15      Comodoro      104
    16      Otoxiep87      100
    17      ZigzagWanderer      97
    18      Rufs      96
    19      JumboVismaFan      95
    20      Will10      94
    21      Mellow_Velo      91
    21      Triley36      91
    23      Titan31      80
    24      Search      78
    25      Scrooll07      76
    26      Salvarani      74
    27      DJSprtsch      72
    27      Josedin      72
    29      EvansIsTheBest      71
    30      Armchair_Cyclist      70
    31      Laarsland      66
    32      BluesInTheBottle      64
    33      ArchieBoy      57
    33      Vladimir      57
    35      SamuCuenca      46
    36      BicycleBoy      30
    37      RedheadDane      16
          Collective_Wisdom      140
    Slow Climber has, especially for a rookie in these games, an extraordinarily high popularity score, and he only differs in one pick from the Collective Wisdom team: he has the still fairly popular Foss rather than Kamna, thus making the tracking of the Collective Wisdom team almost redundant.

    Major picks
    I'll define a major pick as a rider with a cost of 700 points or more.  We seem to have unusually few teams that have more than one of them this time, perhaps because of the previously mentioned wealth of riders in the 300-450 range.
    So those who have doubled up are:
    Carapaz & van der Poel: Bicycle Boy
    Carapaz and Yates: Armchair Cyclist
    Carapaz & Demare: Josedin
    Van der Poel & Bardet: Salvarani
    Yates & Bardet:  Scrooll07 and TRiley36
    Yates & Girmay: Zigzag Wanderer
    Bilbao & Girmay: Titan31

    so the others only have one of these expensive picks:
    Almeida: Mellow Velo
    Carapaz: Blues in the Bottle, Search and Vladimir
    Van der Poel: Berflamand, DJSprtsch, Rufs and Yellow Knight   
    Yates: Amis Velo,  Archie Boy, Comodoro, Jumbo Visma Fan, Kazistuta, Leadbelly,  Manafana, Northerner, Nyssinator, Otoxiep87, Rote Laterne, Safe Bet, Slow Climber and Will10
    Martin: Samu Cuenca
    Bardet: Bonimenier and Del1962
    Girmay: Bminchow and Evans is the Best

    while Redhead Dane has unique Pick De La Cruz (549 pts) as her most expensive team member.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #10 on: May 06, 2022, 17:38 »
    Team Similarity

    We don't have any identical selections this time around, so I haven't had to ask any teams to select a ninth man.

    I have already mentioned the 7 man overlap between Slow Climber and the Collective Wisdom team, but there are a few teams that have 75% co-incidence with another:
    Amis Velo & Leadbelly
    Amis Velo & Rote Laterne
    Comodoro and Manafana
    Leadbelly & Rote Laterne
    Northerner & Rote Laterne
    Safe Bet & Slow Climber

    Of course, whether the degree of similarity of teams is relevant depends on whether the riders who are distinctive to each team perform.



    I was very surprised to see that no-one other than myself went for the Carapaz-Yates combination: I suspect that leaves me either the winner, or outside the top 20.  A similar prediction might be made of Mellow Velo (only manager to choose Almeida) and Bicycle Boy (two of the three most expensive riders in the race).  I suppose it is true of Redhead Dane too, but for rather different reasons.

    Right, now I have some results to process (but not for a little while: other tasks await me...)
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #11 on: May 06, 2022, 23:21 »
    Stage 1
    So far, it looks like Contador was on to something, while 19 teams with Ewan are wondering if their chances are already gone.

    Purple points
    The points for stage placings, and nothing else, make up the minor classification.  But the points distribution is different from that in the race, so while riders at the top of maglia ciclamina ranking will probably do well here, the order will not be an exact replica.
    Purple pts Teams
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      70      6
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      40      4
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      25      1(Titan31)
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      15      2
    KELDERMAN Wilco      10      3
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      7      7
    MOLLEMA Bauke      5      0
    ULISSI Diego      3      0
    VENDRAME Andrea      2      1(Will10)
    SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias      1      2

    1      BicycleBoy      77
    2      Berflamand      70
    2      DJSprtsch      70
    2      Rufs      70
    2      Salvarani      70
    2      Yellow_Knight      70
    7      Titan31      65
    8      Bminchow      50
    9      EvansIsTheBest      41
    10      ZigzagWanderer      40
    11      ArchieBoy      15
    11      JumboVismaFan      15
    13      Bonimenier      10
    13      Nyssinator      10
    15      Armchair_Cyclist      7
    15      BluesInTheBottle      7
    15      Josedin      7
    15      Laarsland      7
    15      Search      7
    15      Vladimir      7
    21      Will10      2
    22      Manafana      1
    23      15 others and Collective Wisdom      0

    Pink points

    What we have here are the GC points as though the Giro were to finish with no further change in rankings, here and now, KoM and Points classification points on the same basis, stage points as above, and an 18 point bonus for anyone to wear the pink jersey the next day.

    Girmay + Bilboa don't quite outscore Van der Poel +Carapaz, but by the time other riders are included, Titan takes the first leader's spot.
    1      Titan31      1094
    2      BicycleBoy      1066
    3      Berflamand      1052
    4      Rufs      1036
    5      Yellow_Knight      1019
    6      Bminchow      1011
    7      Salvarani      987
    8      DJSprtsch      884
    9      EvansIsTheBest      850
    10      ZigzagWanderer      743
    11      JumboVismaFan      598
    12      Bonimenier      580
    13      Nyssinator      556
    14      Vladimir      493
    15      Manafana      467
    16      Armchair_Cyclist      457
    17      ArchieBoy      450
    18      BluesInTheBottle      433
    19      Will10      416
    20      Search      411
    21      Laarsland      403
    22      Josedin      392
    23      Mellow_Velo      382
    24      Rote_Laterne      357
    25      Leadbelly      343
    26      Northerner      339
    27      AmisVelo      323
    27      Del1962      323
    29      SlowClimber      315
    30      SafeBet      296
    31      Comodoro      287
    31      Otoxiep87      287
    33      Triley36      282
    34      Scrooll07      270
    35      Kazistuta      266
    36      SamuCuenca      229
    37      RedheadDane      143
          Collective_Wisdom      292

    InterForum Challenge
    Those who submit their entries via VeloRooms (AmisVelo, Archie Boy, Josedin, Leadbelly, Mellow Velo, Otoxiep87, Rote Laterne, Scrooll07 and Search) against the rest (apart from me) representing Cycling News Forum, by average scores.  I won't report it every day, but I'll update from time to time.
    I can't imagine there is anything causative about it, but neither MvdP nor Girmay were chosen by anybody at VeloRooms, so the averages after the first stage are anything but close:
    CN 598.8
    VR 357.2

    All of the numbers are in the Spreadsheet on Google Docs.  It will be available in the updated form (unless something goes wrong) at the same location throughout, so come back to this link on the days that I don't bother posting it.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #12 on: May 08, 2022, 01:40 »
    Stage 2  Short Budapest Time Trial
    One of the combinations of major picks that no-one went for is Van der Poel & Yates: that team would have had an excellent start.

    Purple points
    But not at all bad for more than half the teams.
    YATES Simon      70      18
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      40      6
    DUMOULIN Tom      25      9
    SOBRERO Matteo      15      0
    TULETT Ben      10      0
    FOSS Tobias Svendsen      7      8
    KELDERMAN Wilco      5      3
    KÄMNA Lennard      3      12
    SCHMID Mauro      2      1
    ARENSMAN Thymen      1      11

    It seems churlish to only show a top ten for this today when for teams all the way down today is the main points they have.  Three teams combine Yates and Dumoulin (and RL also has Kamna)
    1      Rote_Laterne      98
    2      AmisVelo      95
    2      Armchair_Cyclist      95
    4      JumboVismaFan      80
    4      Will10      80
    6      SafeBet      78
    6      SlowClimber      78
    8      Otoxiep87      77
    9      Nyssinator      75
    10      Kazistuta      73
    10      Leadbelly      73
    10      Triley36      73
    13      ArchieBoy      71
    13      Northerner      71
    13      ZigzagWanderer      71
    16      Comodoro      70
    16      Manafana      70
    16      Scrooll07      70
    19      DJSprtsch      68
    20      Rufs      65
    21      Salvarani      43
    22      Yellow_Knight      42
    23      Berflamand      41
    24      BicycleBoy      40
    25      Mellow_Velo      33
    26      Bonimenier      31
    27      Del1962      28
    28      EvansIsTheBest      25
    29      SamuCuenca      10
    30      RedheadDane      7
    31      Bminchow      5
    32      BluesInTheBottle      3
    32      Search      3
    34      Josedin      1
    34      Titan31      1
    34      Vladimir      1
    37      Laarsland      0
          Collective_Wisdom      74

    Standings
    Van der Poel teams still dominate, but in Yates & Girmay Zigzag has another way of getting a 1st and a 2nd.
    1      DJSprtsch      138      7
    2      Rufs      135      2
    3      BicycleBoy      117      -1
    4      Salvarani      113      3
    5      Yellow_Knight      112      0
    6      Berflamand      111      -3
    6      ZigzagWanderer      111      4
    8      Armchair_Cyclist      102      8
    9      Rote_Laterne      98      15
    10      AmisVelo      95      17
    10      JumboVismaFan      95      1
    12      ArchieBoy      86      5
    13      Nyssinator      85      0
    14      Will10      82      5
    15      SafeBet      78      15
    15      SlowClimber      78      14
    17      Otoxiep87      77      14
    18      Kazistuta      73      17
    18      Leadbelly      73      7
    18      Triley36      73      15
    21      Manafana      71      -6
    21      Northerner      71      5
    23      Comodoro      70      8
    23      Scrooll07      70      11
    25      EvansIsTheBest      66      -16
    25      Titan31      66      -24
    27      Bminchow      55      -21
    28      Bonimenier      41      -16
    29      Mellow_Velo      33      -6
    30      Del1962      28      -3
    31      BluesInTheBottle      10      -13
    31      SamuCuenca      10      5
    31      Search      10      -11
    34      Josedin      8      -12
    34      Vladimir      8      -20
    36      Laarsland      7      -15
    36      RedheadDane      7      1
          Collective_Wisdom      74   

    Pink points
    Because these are projections, they can go down as well as up.  For example, Girmay is no longer second on GC, so is no longer on schedule for 375 points for that.  I'll show the main changes for riders relevant to the game, but what is deemed significant may vary day to day.

    ptsteams
    YATES Simon      406      18
    DUMOULIN Tom      287      9
    FOSS Tobias Svendsen      159      8
    SCHMID Mauro      67      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      58      6
    NIBALI Vincenzo      50      3
    FELLINE Fabio      49      2
    ARENSMAN Thymen      46      11
    BARDET Romain      36      5
    SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias      -51      2
    GALL Felix      -54      15
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      -63      5
    VENDRAME Andrea      -116      1
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      -127      7
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -183      1
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      -222      2
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      -320      4

    And if riders' scores can drop, so can those of the teams.
    1      AmisVelo      693
    2      Rote_Laterne      656
    3      SafeBet      635
    4      Armchair_Cyclist      591
    5      SlowClimber      580
    6      Otoxiep87      568
    7      Mellow_Velo      476
    8      Kazistuta      449
    9      Triley36      441
    10      Scrooll07      438
    11      Comodoro      418
    12      Will10      415
    13      Del1962      399
    14      Northerner      391
    15      DJSprtsch      357
    16      Nyssinator      356
    17      Leadbelly      355
    18      Bonimenier      348
    19      Manafana      313
    20      JumboVismaFan      289
    21      Rufs      288
    22      ArchieBoy      239
    23      RedheadDane      159
    24      SamuCuenca      127
    25      Yellow_Knight      94
    26      ZigzagWanderer      82
    27      Salvarani      77
    28      Berflamand      28
    29      EvansIsTheBest      -30
    30      BicycleBoy      -45
    31      Josedin      -67
    32      Vladimir      -68
    33      Search      -92
    34      BluesInTheBottle      -149
    35      Laarsland      -172
    36      Bminchow      -364
    37      Titan31      -482
          Collective_Wisdom      424

    Standings
    I suspect it will take until at least after Etna, possibly until after Blockhaus, before any conclusions can be drawn from the table.  However, it will stabilise a bit tomorrow, because a sprint stage will generally have little effect other than the daily stage points.

    1      Rufs      1324      3
    2      DJSprtsch      1241      6
    3      Yellow_Knight      1113      2
    4      Berflamand      1080      -1
    5      Salvarani      1064      2
    6      Armchair_Cyclist      1048      10
    7      BicycleBoy      1021      -5
    8      AmisVelo      1016      19
    9      Rote_Laterne      1013      15
    10      SafeBet      931      20
    11      Bonimenier      928      1
    12      Nyssinator      912      1
    13      SlowClimber      895      16
    14      JumboVismaFan      887      -3
    15      Mellow_Velo      858      8
    16      Otoxiep87      855      15
    17      Will10      831      2
    18      ZigzagWanderer      825      -8
    19      EvansIsTheBest      820      -10
    20      Manafana      780      -5
    21      Northerner      730      5
    22      Triley36      723      11
    23      Del1962      722      4
    24      Kazistuta      715      11
    25      Scrooll07      708      9
    26      Comodoro      705      5
    27      Leadbelly      698      -2
    28      ArchieBoy      689      -11
    29      Bminchow      647      -23
    30      Titan31      612      -29
    31      Vladimir      425      -17
    32      SamuCuenca      356      4
    33      Josedin      325      -11
    34      Search      319      -14
    35      RedheadDane      302      2
    36      BluesInTheBottle      284      -18
    37      Laarsland      231      -16
          Collective_Wisdom      716   


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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #13 on: May 09, 2022, 00:20 »
    Stage 3
    Enter the sprinters, exit Hungary

    Purple points

    The unselected rider comes out victorious, the widely picked one takes very few points.
    CAVENDISH Mark      70      0
    DEMARE Arnaud      40      1(Josedin)
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      25      5
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      15      4
    MARECZKO Jakub      10      1(Laarsland)
    THEUNS Edward      7      0
    CONSONNI Simone      5      0
    EWAN Caleb      3      19
    DAINESE Alberto      2      1
    BAUHAUS Phil      1      1

    Today
    Gaviria + Girmay would equal Demare, but EitB also has Ewan.
    1      EvansIsTheBest      43
    2      Josedin      40
    3      Kazistuta      28
    4      Comodoro      25
    4      Otoxiep87      25
    4      Search      25
    7      Bminchow      18
    7      ZigzagWanderer      18
    9      Titan31      15
    10      Laarsland      13
    Anyone not in the top ten has Ewan's 3, or fewer.

    Standings
    1      DJSprtsch      141      0
    2      Rufs      138      0
    3      ZigzagWanderer      129      3
    4      BicycleBoy      117      -1
    5      Yellow_Knight      115      0
    6      Salvarani      113      -2
    7      Berflamand      111      -1
    8      EvansIsTheBest      109      17
    9      Armchair_Cyclist      102      -1
    9      Otoxiep87      102      8

    Pink points
    Absolutely no change in the GC projected points (apart from the unfortunate, and unpicked, Tratnik losing his 15 finisher points) and some alteration in the points and mountains classifications (top climbers Zabel and Eenkhorn passing MvdP in the latter, so he ends up with a negative change today).  So not much happening today:
    DEMARE Arnaud      55      1 team
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      35      5
    MARECZKO Jakub      10      1
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      5      4
    DAVY Clément      5      1
    YATES Simon      -6      18
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      -8      2
    KELDERMAN Wilco      -12      3
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -18      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -27      6

    Today
    This amount of difference is unlikely to matter much in three weeks' time.
    1      Josedin      52
    2      EvansIsTheBest      42
    3      Kazistuta      32
    3      Search      32
    5      Comodoro      29
    5      Otoxiep87      29
    7      Laarsland      10
    8      BluesInTheBottle      2
    8      Del1962      2
    8      SamuCuenca      2
    8      ZigzagWanderer      2
    12      RedheadDane      1
    13      Vladimir      0
    14      Mellow_Velo      -1
    15      Leadbelly      -3
    15      Northerner      -3
    15      SlowClimber      -3
    15      Will10      -3
    19      AmisVelo      -4
    19      Bminchow      -4
    19      Rote_Laterne      -4
    22      Manafana      -6
    22      SafeBet      -6
    22      Scrooll07      -6
    22      Triley36      -6
    26      Armchair_Cyclist      -10
    27      ArchieBoy      -11
    27      JumboVismaFan      -11
    29      Bonimenier      -13
    29      Titan31      -13
    31      Nyssinator      -15
    32      Yellow_Knight      -24
    33      DJSprtsch      -25
    33      Rufs      -25
    35      Berflamand      -27
    35      Salvarani      -27
    37      BicycleBoy      -30
          Collective_Wisdom      -3

    Standings
    As the riders prepare to fly to Italy, the game is poised thus:
    1      Rufs      1299      0
    2      DJSprtsch      1216      0
    3      Yellow_Knight      1089      0
    4      Berflamand      1053      0
    5      Armchair_Cyclist      1038      1
    6      Salvarani      1037      -1
    7      AmisVelo      1012      1
    8      Rote_Laterne      1009      1
    9      BicycleBoy      991      -2
    10      SafeBet      925      0
    11      Bonimenier      915      0
    12      Nyssinator      897      0
    13      SlowClimber      892      0
    14      Otoxiep87      884      2
    15      JumboVismaFan      876      -1
    16      EvansIsTheBest      862      3
    17      Mellow_Velo      857      -2
    18      Will10      828      -1
    19      ZigzagWanderer      827      -1
    20      Manafana      774      0
    21      Kazistuta      747      3
    22      Comodoro      734      4
    23      Northerner      727      -2
    24      Del1962      724      -1
    25      Triley36      717      -3
    26      Scrooll07      702      -1
    27      Leadbelly      695      0
    28      ArchieBoy      678      0
    29      Bminchow      643      0
    30      Titan31      599      0
    31      Vladimir      425      0
    32      Josedin      377      1
    33      SamuCuenca      358      -1
    34      Search      351      0
    35      RedheadDane      303      0
    36      BluesInTheBottle      286      0
    37      Laarsland      241      0
          Collective_Wisdom      713   

    Rufs gets an unchallenged day at the top tomorrow, and CN can take the day to wallow in their lead in the interforum challenge: 777 to 729
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #14 on: May 11, 2022, 00:26 »
    Stage 4  Etna

    Purple points

    It's fairly rare for all of the top ten to have been selected, so nine of them is pretty good, even if they were largely unique picks, apart from the popular winner.

    KÄMNA Lennard      70      12
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      40      1
    TAARAMÄE Rein      25      2
    MONIQUET Sylvain      15      0
    VANSEVENANT Mauri      10      1
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      7      1
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      5      7
    BARDET Romain      3      5
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      2      1
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      1      1

    Today
    TRiley not only has Kamna and unique pick JP Lopez, but Bardet too.
    1      Triley36      113
    2      JumboVismaFan      80
    3      BluesInTheBottle      75
    3      Search      75
    5      Del1962      73
    5      Salvarani      73
    7      DJSprtsch      70
    7      Kazistuta      70
    7      Leadbelly      70
    7      Rote_Laterne      70
    7      SamuCuenca      70
    7      Will10      70

    Standings
    TRiley is above Salvarani on the basis of my rule that the top scoring non-shared contributor to a team is disregarded (thus rewarding teams with a more even spread of scorers).  The two teams in 5th cannot be thus split.
    1      DJSprtsch      211      0
    2      Triley36      186      22
    3      Salvarani      186      3
    4      JumboVismaFan      178      9
    5      Kazistuta      171      6
    5      Rote_Laterne      171      6
    7      Will10      155      11
    8      Leadbelly      146      14
    9      Rufs      138      -7
    10      EvansIsTheBest      134      -2

    Pink points
    Lots of changes in the upper echelons of the GC table, even if some of them are likely to be temporary.
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      579      1
    KÄMNA Lennard      503      12
    TAARAMÄE Rein      350      2
    VANSEVENANT Mauri      194      1
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      50      27
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      46      1
    PORTE Richie      46      0
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      45      6
    ARENSMAN Thymen      44      11
    HAMILTON Lucas      44      3
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      43      1
    CICCONE Giulio      43      9
    BARDET Romain      42      5
    CARTHY Hugh      42      18
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      41      5
    HIRT Jan      41      0
    LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel      -36      20
    SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias      -50      2
    FELLINE Fabio      -59      2
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      -70      4
    NIBALI Vincenzo      -72      3
    SCHMID Mauro      -93      1
    YATES Simon      -121      18
    FOSS Tobias Svendsen      -146      8
    DUMOULIN Tom      -298      9
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -508      6
    Losses can be deceptive as well.  Although Yates seems to have lost a lot more today than MA Lopez, he is still poised to get plenty of GC points (and quite possibly more as today's protagonists drop away), while obviously the day's less successful Lopez will now be a 500 point of their spend that will yield nothing for the more than half the field that has him. Although for Van der Poel and Dumoulin, the drops probably give a truer indication of their GC expectation than their previous standings.

    A fairly huge range of outcomes for the day:
    1      Triley36      1062
    2      Search      645
    3      BluesInTheBottle      624
    4      Leadbelly      480
    5      Kazistuta      458
    6      SamuCuenca      396
    7      Laarsland      377
    8      JumboVismaFan      363
    9      Will10      301
    10      Del1962      231
    11      Rote_Laterne      177
    12      Josedin      172
    13      Titan31      158
    14      Salvarani      97
    15      Northerner      61
    16      Vladimir      33
    17      Comodoro      18
    18      Scrooll07      13
    19      Bminchow      6
    20      Manafana      -29
    21      Nyssinator      -63
    22      EvansIsTheBest      -90
    23      ZigzagWanderer      -94
    24      SafeBet      -110
    25      ArchieBoy      -124
    26      RedheadDane      -146
    27      SlowClimber      -164
    28      Bonimenier      -179
    29      Otoxiep87      -222
    30      Mellow_Velo      -259
    31      Armchair_Cyclist      -296
    32      AmisVelo      -324
    33      DJSprtsch      -328
    34      Berflamand      -350
    35      BicycleBoy      -465
    36      Yellow_Knight      -542
    37      Rufs      -586
    Collective Wisdom 485

    Standings
    The table leaving Hungary bears little resemblance to this: Only Salvarani of the MvdP teams, whose loses were mitigated by having Kamna, survives near the top.
    1      Triley36      1779      24
    2      JumboVismaFan      1239      13
    3      Kazistuta      1205      18
    4      Rote_Laterne      1186      4
    5      Leadbelly      1175      22
    6      Salvarani      1134      0
    7      Will10      1129      11
    8      Search      996      26
    9      Del1962      955      15
    10      BluesInTheBottle      910      26
    11      DJSprtsch      888      -9
    12      Nyssinator      834      0
    13      SafeBet      815      -3
    14      Northerner      788      9
    15      EvansIsTheBest      772      1
    16      Titan31      757      14
    17      SamuCuenca      754      16
    18      Comodoro      752      4
    19      Manafana      745      1
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      742      -15
    21      Bonimenier      736      -10
    22      ZigzagWanderer      733      -3
    23      SlowClimber      728      -10
    24      Scrooll07      715      2
    25      Rufs      713      -24
    26      Berflamand      703      -22
    27      AmisVelo      688      -20
    28      Otoxiep87      662      -14
    29      Bminchow      649      0
    30      Laarsland      618      7
    31      Mellow_Velo      598      -14
    32      ArchieBoy      554      -4
    33      Josedin      549      -1
    34      Yellow_Knight      547      -31
    35      BicycleBoy      526      -26
    36      Vladimir      458      -5
    37      RedheadDane      157      -2
          Collective_Wisdom      1198   
    TRiley's position looks good for as long as Lopez stays in pink.  And even after that, he will have several days worth of pink jersey bonuses and a team that would still be top even if all JPL's projected points were removed.

    The interforum challenge is a lot closer than it was after stage 1:  CN 816, VR 791


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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #15 on: May 11, 2022, 16:52 »
    Stage 5 A sprint with main sprinters left behind

    Purple points
    DEMARE Arnaud      70      1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      40      5
    NIZZOLO Giacomo      25      0
    BALLERINI Davide      15      3
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      10      4
    BAUHAUS Phil      7      1
    DAINESE Alberto      5      1
    TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit      3      1
    THEUNS Edward      2      0
    CONSONNI Simone      1      0

    Today
    Not so many of us bothering the scorers: the rest all got zero stage pts today.
    1      Josedin      85
    2      Search      55
    3      EvansIsTheBest      50
    4      Comodoro      40
    4      Kazistuta      40
    4      Otoxiep87      40
    7      Nyssinator      15
    8      ZigzagWanderer      13
    9      Bminchow      10
    9      Titan31      10
    11      RedheadDane      7
    12      SamuCuenca      5

    Standings
    The tie-breaker I mentioned yesterday splits both 1st/2nd and 3rd/4th, to the detriment of the MvdP team both times.
    1      Kazistuta      211      4
    2      DJSprtsch      211      -1
    3      Triley36      186      -1
    4      Salvarani      186      -1
    5      EvansIsTheBest      184      5
    6      JumboVismaFan      178      -2
    7      Rote_Laterne      171      -2
    8      Search      165      7
    9      Will10      155      -2
    10      Leadbelly      146      -2

    Pink points
    Much less change on a sprinters' stage, with changes in the maglia ciclamina and Almeida gaining a GC place on the grounds of intermediate sprint seconds being the main non-stage point issues.
    DEMARE Arnaud      125      1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      55      5
    MAESTRI Mirco      40      0
    NIZZOLO Giacomo      32      0
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      25      1
    BALLERINI Davide      15      3
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      10      4
    TAARAMÄE Rein      -10      2
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      -15      1
    FIORELLI Filippo      -15      2
    SCHMID Mauro      -27      1
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -29      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -57      6

    Josedin's unique pick stage winner gains him the daily honours
    1      Josedin      139
    2      EvansIsTheBest      69
    3      Search      68
    4      Otoxiep87      57
    5      Comodoro      55
    6      Kazistuta      54
    7      Mellow_Velo      34
    8      ZigzagWanderer      18
    9      Nyssinator      16
    10      Bminchow      11
    11      Manafana      9
    11      RedheadDane      9
    13      Del1962      7
    14      Bonimenier      5
    14      SlowClimber      5
    16      AmisVelo      4
    16      Triley36      4
    18      Rote_Laterne      3
    18      Vladimir      3
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      2
    20      Leadbelly      2
    20      SafeBet      2
    23      Will10      1
    24      ArchieBoy      0
    24      Northerner      0
    26      JumboVismaFan      -1
    27      BluesInTheBottle      -2
    27      SamuCuenca      -2
    29      Titan31      -13
    30      Laarsland      -14
    31      Scrooll07      -15
    32      Rufs      -53
    33      Berflamand      -54
    34      Salvarani      -56
    35      BicycleBoy      -59
    36      DJSprtsch      -71
    37      Yellow_Knight      -81
          Collective_Wisdom      2

    Standings
    Gaviria lifts Kazistuta to second place
    1      Triley36      1783      0
    2      Kazistuta      1259      1
    3      JumboVismaFan      1238      -1
    4      Rote_Laterne      1189      0
    5      Leadbelly      1177      0
    6      Will10      1130      1
    7      Salvarani      1078      -1
    8      Search      1064      0
    9      Del1962      962      0
    10      BluesInTheBottle      908      0
    11      Nyssinator      850      1
    12      EvansIsTheBest      841      3
    13      DJSprtsch      817      -2
    13      SafeBet      817      0
    15      Comodoro      807      3
    16      Northerner      788      -2
    17      Manafana      754      2
    18      SamuCuenca      752      -1
    19      ZigzagWanderer      751      3
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      744      0
    20      Titan31      744      -4
    22      Bonimenier      741      -1
    23      SlowClimber      733      0
    24      Otoxiep87      719      4
    25      Scrooll07      700      -1
    26      AmisVelo      692      1
    27      Josedin      688      6
    28      Bminchow      660      1
    28      Rufs      660      -3
    30      Berflamand      649      -4
    31      Mellow_Velo      632      0
    32      Laarsland      604      -2
    33      ArchieBoy      554      -1
    34      BicycleBoy      467      1
    35      Yellow_Knight      466      -1
    36      Vladimir      461      0
    37      RedheadDane      166      0
          Collective_Wisdom      1200   

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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #16 on: May 12, 2022, 23:23 »
    Stage 6 A sprint with the main sprinters

    Purple points

    Ewan finally begins to score for the many teams that picked him.
    DEMARE Arnaud      70      1
    EWAN Caleb      40      19
    CAVENDISH Mark      25      0
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      15      4
    NIZZOLO Giacomo      10      0
    BAUHAUS Phil      7      1
    VENDRAME Andrea      5      1
    CONSONNI Simone      3      0
    ALBANESE Vincenzo      2      0
    THEUNS Edward      1      0

    Today
    Ewan improves, but Josedin's unique pick of Demare is still doing better
    1      Josedin      70
    2      Bminchow      55
    2      EvansIsTheBest      55
    2      ZigzagWanderer      55
    5      Will10      45
    6=      Other Ewan teams      40
    21      Titan31      15
    22      RedheadDane      7
    23      The rest      0

    Standings
    1      Kazistuta      251      0
    2      DJSprtsch      251      0
    3      EvansIsTheBest      239      2
    4      JumboVismaFan      218      2
    5      Rote_Laterne      211      2
    6      Josedin      208      7
    7      Will10      200      2
    8      ZigzagWanderer      197      3
    9      Triley36      186      -6
    10      Leadbelly      186      0
    11      Salvarani      186      -7

    Pink points
    Even less action than yesterday

    DEMARE Arnaud      70      1
    EWAN Caleb      43      19
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      18      1
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      15      4
    BAUHAUS Phil      9      1
    VENDRAME Andrea      5      1
    CORT NIELSEN Magnus      -1      2
    KÄMNA Lennard      -2      12
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -2      1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      -15      5

    1      Josedin      70
    2      ZigzagWanderer      58
    2      Bminchow      58
    4      Will10      46
    5      EvansIsTheBest      43
    5      Rufs      43
    5      Yellow_Knight      43
    5      Nyssinator      43
    5      AmisVelo      43
    5      SlowClimber      43
    5      Northerner      43
    5      Laarsland      43
    5      Vladimir      43
    14      ArchieBoy      42
    15      DJSprtsch      41
    15      Rote_Laterne      41
    15      Leadbelly      41
    15      Del1962      41
    19      JumboVismaFan      40
    20      Kazistuta      26
    21      Triley36      16
    22      Titan31      13
    23      RedheadDane      9
    24      BicycleBoy      0
    24      Berflamand      0
    24      Armchair_Cyclist      0
    24      Scrooll07      0
    24      SafeBet      0
    24      Manafana      0
    24      Bonimenier      0
    24      Mellow_Velo      0
    32      Salvarani      -2
    32      SamuCuenca      -2
    32      BluesInTheBottle      -2
    35      Otoxiep87      -15
    35      Comodoro      -15
    37      Search      -17
          Collective_Wisdom      41

    Standings
    Look all the way down to 14th if you are trying to find any change today.
    1      Triley36      1799      0
    2      Kazistuta      1285      0
    3      JumboVismaFan      1278      0
    4      Rote_Laterne      1230      0
    5      Leadbelly      1218      0
    6      Will10      1176      0
    7      Salvarani      1076      0
    8      Search      1047      0
    9      Del1962      1003      0
    10      BluesInTheBottle      906      0
    11      Nyssinator      893      0
    12      EvansIsTheBest      884      0
    13      DJSprtsch      858      0
    14      Northerner      831      2
    15      SafeBet      817      -2
    16      ZigzagWanderer      809      3
    17      Comodoro      792      -2
    18      SlowClimber      776      5
    19      Josedin      758      8
    20      Titan31      757      0
    21      Manafana      754      -4
    22      SamuCuenca      750      -4
    23      Armchair_Cyclist      744      -3
    24      Bonimenier      741      -2
    25      AmisVelo      735      1
    26      Bminchow      718      2
    27      Otoxiep87      704      -3
    28      Rufs      703      0
    29      Scrooll07      700      -4
    30      Berflamand      649      0
    31      Laarsland      647      1
    32      Mellow_Velo      632      -1
    33      ArchieBoy      596      0
    34      Yellow_Knight      509      1
    35      Vladimir      504      1
    36      BicycleBoy      467      -2
    37      RedheadDane      175      0
          Collective_Wisdom      1241   

    I'm away for the weekend for a major family event, so I have no idea when I will have any time/sobriety/internet availability.  I'll do what I can, but don't be surprised if there are no updates until Monday evening.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #17 on: May 17, 2022, 00:54 »
    Stages 7, 8 and 9
    It was a really good weekend, but it leaves me very behind here.

    Purplish points
    Stage 7
    BOUWMAN Koen      70      0
    MOLLEMA Bauke      40      0
    FORMOLO Davide      25      0
    DUMOULIN Tom      15      9
    VILLELLA Davide      10      0
    KÄMNA Lennard      7      12
    ALBANESE Vincenzo      5      0
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      3      1
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      2      0
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      1      7

    Stage 8
    DE GENDT Thomas      70      3
    GABBURO Davide      40      0
    ARCAS PEÑA Jorge      25      0
    VANHOUCKE Harm      15      0
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      10      4
    SCHMID Mauro      7      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      5      6
    POELS Wout      3      1
    MARTIN Guillaume      2      1
    FELLINE Fabio      1      2

    Stage 9
    HINDLEY Jai      70      7
    BARDET Romain      40      5
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      25      7
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      15      27
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      10      1
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      7      4
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      5      5
    NIBALI Vincenzo      3      3
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      2      0
    ARENSMAN Thymen      1      11

    Purple points gained over those three stages
    1      Rote_Laterne      112   Hindley/Landa/Dumoulin/Kamna/Buchman
    1      Josedin      112   De Gendt/Carapaz/Landa/Arensman
    3      BicycleBoy      108   De Gendt/Carapaz/Pozzovivo/van der Poel
    4      BluesInTheBottle      103   Hindley/Carapaz/Kamna
    5      AmisVelo      100   Hindley/Dumoulin/Landa
    6      Yellow_Knight      97   
    7      Leadbelly      92   
    8      Northerner      91   
    9      Comodoro      85   
    9      Manafana      85   
    11      Del1962      80   
    12      Bonimenier      71   
    13      Salvarani      67   
    14      Triley36      62   
    15      Armchair_Cyclist      56   
    16      Search      55   
    17      Mellow_Velo      44   
    18      EvansIsTheBest      43   
    19      Rufs      40   
    19      Scrooll07      40   
    21      Vladimir      36   
    22      Berflamand      33   
    23      DJSprtsch      27   
    24      ZigzagWanderer      26   
    24      Titan31      26   
    24      Laarsland      26   
    27      Bminchow      25   
    28      Kazistuta      23   
    29      Will10      22   
    30      SafeBet      16   
    30      SlowClimber      16   
    30      SamuCuenca      16   
    33      Nyssinator      15   
    33      Otoxiep87      15   
    35      JumboVismaFan      7   
    36      ArchieBoy      4   
    37      RedheadDane      0   
          Collective_Wisdom      23   

    Top stage (purple) point winners so far:
    DEMARE Arnaud      180      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      115      6
    CAVENDISH Mark      95      0
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      90      4
    KÄMNA Lennard      80      12
    HINDLEY Jai      70      7
    DE GENDT Thomas      70      3
    BOUWMAN Koen      70      0
    YATES Simon      70      18
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      65      5
    MOLLEMA Bauke      45      0
    BARDET Romain      43      5
    EWAN Caleb      43      19
    GABBURO Davide      40      0
    DUMOULIN Tom      40      9
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      40      1


    Purple standings thus far (with the top 3 scoring riders mentioned for the top 10 teams)
    Changes in rank are stage 9 compared to stage 6

    1      Rote_Laterne      323      4   Kamna/Hindley/Yates
    2      Josedin      320      4    Demare/De Gendt/ Carapaz
    3      EvansIsTheBest      282      0   Girmay/Gaviria/Ewan
    4      Leadbelly      278      5   Kamna/Hindley/Yates
    5      DJSprtsch      278      -4   Van der Poel/Kamna/Ewan
    6      Kazistuta      274      -4   Kamna/Yates/Gaviria
    7      Salvarani      253      2   Van der Poel/Kamna/Bardet
    8      Yellow_Knight      252      6   Van der Poel/De Gendt/Ewan
    9      Triley36      248      0   Kamna/Yates/Bardet
    10      AmisVelo      238      8   Hindley/Yates/Ewan
    11      BicycleBoy      230      11   
    12      JumboVismaFan      225      -8   
    13      Del1962      224      2   
    14      ZigzagWanderer      223      -6   
    15      Will10      222      -8   
    16      Comodoro      220      4   
    17      Search      220      -4   
    18      Rufs      218      -6   
    19      Northerner      205      5   
    20      BluesInTheBottle      188      -10   
    21      Armchair_Cyclist      163      6   
    22      Bminchow      163      -4   
    23      Nyssinator      158      -12   
    24      Otoxiep87      157      -7   
    25      Manafana      156      8   
    26      Berflamand      144      -1   
    27      SlowClimber      137      -4   
    28      Titan31      134      -2   
    29      ArchieBoy      133      -8   
    30      Scrooll07      120      1   
    31      Laarsland      116      -3   
    32      Bonimenier      115      3   
    33      SamuCuenca      103      -4   
    34      SafeBet      94      -2   
    35      Vladimir      92      -1   
    36      Mellow_Velo      78      0   
    37      RedheadDane      22      0   
          Collective_Wisdom      210         
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #18 on: May 17, 2022, 02:20 »
    Stages 7, 8 and 9, and Rest day round up


    Pink points



    I am not going to try to break the rider score changes down day by day: nearly all of them were on Sunday, apart from JP Lopez taking 18 pink jersey points a day, Guillaume Martin rising to 4th, then down to 6th today, and Kamna losing the lead in the KoM classification, and some DNFs.


    So the main rider score nett changes over the three days are:
    HINDLEY Jai      229      7
    BARDET Romain      222      5
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      198      1
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      171      7
    MARTIN Guillaume      167      1
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      106      4
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      93      27
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      93      5
    DE GENDT Thomas      75      3
    ROSA Diego      68      2
    NIBALI Vincenzo      63      3
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo      46      1
    CARR Simon      -48      1
    KELDERMAN Wilco      -159      3
    VANSEVENANT Mauri      -195      1
    YATES Simon      -211      18
    TAARAMÄE Rein      -282      2
    KÄMNA Lennard      -323      12

    The table takes on some semblance of what we might expect, but surely with a fair bit of change still to come.  Teams with, Kamna, Vansevenant and Taaramae are now looking at something more akin to what they might have expected: teams with Yates are perhaps less likely to have anticipated finding themselves contemplating a lesser outcome.

    Nett team changes over the three stages
    1      BicycleBoy      357   Carapaz/Pozzovivo/De Gendt
    2      Vladimir      345   Carapaz/Buchmann/Nibali
    3      Josedin      342   Carapaz/Landa/De Gendt
    4      Mellow_Velo      306   Almeida/Landa
    5      Berflamand      298   Pozzovivo/Buchmann/Landa
    6      Northerner      222   
    7      Bonimenier      189   
    8      Rufs      184   
    9      Yellow_Knight      171   
    10      AmisVelo      132   
    11      Comodoro      115   
    12      Titan31      97   
    13      Manafana      92   
    14      Del1962      80   
    15      BluesInTheBottle      77   
    16      Armchair_Cyclist      63   
    17      Search      41   
    18      Salvarani      -5   
    19      Scrooll07      -14   
    20      RedheadDane      -20   
    21      ZigzagWanderer      -27   
    22      SamuCuenca      -70   
    23      Bminchow      -75   
    24      Rote_Laterne      -88   
    25      EvansIsTheBest      -106   
    26      Triley36      -112   
    27      SlowClimber      -136   
    28      SafeBet      -143   
    29      Otoxiep87      -149   
    30      Laarsland      -162   
    31      ArchieBoy      -180   
    32      Leadbelly      -225   
    33      Nyssinator      -278   
    34      DJSprtsch      -279   
    35      Will10      -442   Kamna/Yates
    36      Kazistuta      -457   Kamna/ Yates
    37      JumboVismaFan      -750   Kamna/Yates/Vansevenant
          Collective_Wisdom      -441   

    Top scoring riders as at rest day two:
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      648      1 (T Riley)
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      389      1 (Mellow Velo)
    BARDET Romain      360      5
    HINDLEY Jai      325      7
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      303      7
    DEMARE Arnaud      265      1 (Josedin)
    MARTIN Guillaume      217      1 (Samu Cuenca)
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      205      27
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      199      6
    KÄMNA Lennard      195      12
    BOUWMAN Koen      172      0
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      172      4
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      162      1
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      155      5
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      145      4
    CAVENDISH Mark      135      0
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      124      0
    YATES Simon      124      18
    ARENSMAN Thymen      114      11
    NIBALI Vincenzo      107      3

    Standings
    Best three scorers shown for the top ten, ranking changes are from stage 6
    1      Triley36      1687      0   Lopez/Bardet/Landa
    2      Rote_Laterne      1142      2   Hindley/Landa/Kamna
    3      Josedin      1100      16   Carapaz/Demare/Landa
    4      Search      1088      4   Carapaz/Landa/Kamna
    5      Del1962      1083      4   Bardet/Landa/Kamna
    6      Salvarani      1071      1   Bardet/Landa/Van der Poel
    7      Northerner      1053      7   Hindley/Landa/Buchmann
    8      Leadbelly      993      -3   Hindley/Landa/Kamna
    9      BluesInTheBottle      983      1   Hindley/Carapaz/Kamna
    10      Berflamand      947      20   Landa/Van der Poel/Pozzovivo
    11      Mellow_Velo      938      21   
    12      Bonimenier      930      12   
    13      Comodoro      907      4   
    14      Rufs      887      14   
    15      AmisVelo      867      10   
    16      Titan31      854      4   
    17      Vladimir      849      18   
    18      Manafana      846      3   
    19      Kazistuta      828      -17   
    20      BicycleBoy      824      16   
    21      Armchair_Cyclist      807      2   
    22      ZigzagWanderer      782      -6   
    23      EvansIsTheBest      778      -11   
    24      Will10      734      -18   
    25      Scrooll07      686      4   
    26      Yellow_Knight      680      8   
    26      SamuCuenca      680      -4   
    28      SafeBet      674      -13   
    29      Bminchow      643      -3   
    30      SlowClimber      640      -12   
    31      Nyssinator      615      -20   
    32      DJSprtsch      579      -19   
    33      Otoxiep87      555      -6   
    34      JumboVismaFan      528      -31   
    35      Laarsland      485      -4   
    36      ArchieBoy      416      -3   
    37      RedheadDane      155      0   
          Collective_Wisdom      800         

    Laarsland has 3 non-finishers, DJSprtsch and Otoxiep each have two.

    And in the interforum challenge: VeloRooms 865; CN Forum 805  (or 830 if we were to exclude Redhead's randomeers)

    Meanwhile, the spreadsheet resides here.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #19 on: May 18, 2022, 00:11 »
    Stage 10 One in the eye for the traditional countries of cycling...

    Purple points

    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      70      4
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      40      6
    ALBANESE Vincenzo      25      0
    KELDERMAN Wilco      15      3
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      10      7
    BOUWMAN Koen      7      0
    BARDET Romain      5      5
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      3      1
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      2      1
    SCHMID Mauro      1      1

    Today

    1      Bminchow      85   
    2      Titan31      73   
    3      ZigzagWanderer      70   
    3      EvansIsTheBest      70   
    5      BicycleBoy      50   
    6      Salvarani      45   
    7      Yellow_Knight      41   
    8      Berflamand      40   
    8      Rufs      40   
    8      DJSprtsch      40   

    Standings
    1      EvansIsTheBest      352      2
    2      Josedin      330      0
    3      Rote_Laterne      323      -2
    4      DJSprtsch      318      1
    5      Salvarani      298      2
    6      Yellow_Knight      293      2
    7      ZigzagWanderer      293      7
    8      BicycleBoy      280      3
    9      Leadbelly      278      -5
    10      Kazistuta      274      -4

    Pink points
    Not much by way of non-stage points

    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      70      4
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      50      6
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      18      1
    KELDERMAN Wilco      17      3
    CARTHY Hugh      12      18
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      10      7
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo      10      1
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      8      6
    BARDET Romain      6      5
    SIVAKOV Pavel      -4      2
    TAARAMÄE Rein      -8      2
    KÄMNA Lennard      -20      12

    Change today

    1      Bminchow      99
    2      Titan31      95
    3      ZigzagWanderer      72
    4      Yellow_Knight      63
    5      Berflamand      62
    5      Rufs      62
    7      EvansIsTheBest      61
    8      BicycleBoy      60
    9      Bonimenier      35
    10      Salvarani      32
    11      Nyssinator      31
    12      DJSprtsch      30
    13      Manafana      24
    14      Josedin      22
    15      Scrooll07      21
    16      Comodoro      19
    17      Triley36      14
    18      Mellow_Velo      13
    18      SlowClimber      13
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      12
    21      Northerner      10
    21      Otoxiep87      10
    21      Vladimir      10
    24      SafeBet      9
    25      AmisVelo      2
    25      ArchieBoy      2
    25      Laarsland      2
    28      RedheadDane      -1
    28      Search      -1
    30      BluesInTheBottle      -2
    30      Del1962      -2
    32      Kazistuta      -9
    33      Will10      -11
    34      Leadbelly      -18
    34      Rote_Laterne      -18
    36      JumboVismaFan      -19
    37      SamuCuenca      -21
          Collective_Wisdom      -6

    Standings
    1      Triley36      1701      0
    2      Rote_Laterne      1124      0
    3      Josedin      1122      0
    4      Salvarani      1103      2
    5      Search      1087      -1
    6      Del1962      1081      -1
    7      Northerner      1063      0
    8      Berflamand      1009      2
    9      BluesInTheBottle      981      0
    10      Leadbelly      975      -2
    11      Bonimenier      965      1
    12      Mellow_Velo      951      -1
    13      Rufs      949      1
    13      Titan31      949      3
    15      Comodoro      926      -2
    16      BicycleBoy      884      4
    17      Manafana      870      1
    18      AmisVelo      869      -3
    19      Vladimir      859      -2
    20      ZigzagWanderer      854      2
    21      EvansIsTheBest      839      2
    22      Armchair_Cyclist      819      -1
    22      Kazistuta      819      -3
    24      Yellow_Knight      743      2
    25      Bminchow      742      4
    26      Will10      723      -2
    27      Scrooll07      707      -2
    28      SafeBet      683      0
    29      SamuCuenca      659      -3
    30      SlowClimber      653      0
    31      Nyssinator      646      0
    32      DJSprtsch      609      0
    33      Otoxiep87      565      0
    34      JumboVismaFan      509      0
    35      Laarsland      487      0
    36      ArchieBoy      418      0
    37      RedheadDane      154      0
          Collective_Wisdom      794   

    Tomorrow should similarly be all about the stage points, but a different group of riders should be expected to take most of the points.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #20 on: May 18, 2022, 21:10 »
    Stage 11
    The annual Po Valley bowling lane stage.  All the expected names in the top ten, but not in the order that anyone might have predicted.

    Purple points

    DAINESE Alberto      70      1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      40      5
    CONSONNI Simone      25      0
    DEMARE Arnaud      15      1
    EWAN Caleb      10      19
    CAVENDISH Mark      7      0
    THEUNS Edward      5      0
    MODOLO Sacha      3      2
    BAUHAUS Phil      2      1
    NAESEN Lawrence      1      0

    Today
    1      Samu Cuenca      70
    2      EvansIsTheBest      50
    2      Kazistuta      50
    4      Comodoro      40
    4      Otoxiep87      40
    4      Search      40
    7      Josedin      15
    8      17 Ewan teams without Gaviria   10

    Standings
    1      EvansIsTheBest      402      0
    2      Josedin      345      0
    3      Rote_Laterne      333      0
    4      DJSprtsch      328      0
    5      Kazistuta      324      5
    6      Yellow_Knight      303      0
    7      ZigzagWanderer      303      0
    8      Salvarani      298      -3
    9      Leadbelly      288      0
    10      BicycleBoy      283      -2

    Pink points
    Other than today's stage points, the events that affect today's changes in rider scores happened with 77km remaining or on yesterday's podium.

    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      110      7
    DAINESE Alberto      77      1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      58      5
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      18      1
    DEMARE Arnaud      15      1
    EWAN Caleb      11      19
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      -10      6
    BARDET Romain      -50      5
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      -55      4
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      -60      1


    1      Search      168
    2      Josedin      122
    3      Laarsland      121
    3      Vladimir      121
    5      Armchair_Cyclist      110
    5      BluesInTheBottle      110
    7      BicycleBoy      100
    8      SamuCuenca      77
    9      Kazistuta      69
    10      Comodoro      58
    10      Otoxiep87      58
    12      EvansIsTheBest      14
    13      AmisVelo      11
    13      ArchieBoy      11
    13      Leadbelly      11
    13      Northerner      11
    13      Nyssinator      11
    13      Rote_Laterne      11
    13      SlowClimber      11
    13      Will10      11
    21      JumboVismaFan      7
    22      RedheadDane      2
    23      DJSprtsch      1
    23      Rufs      1
    25      Manafana      0
    25      SafeBet      0
    27      Yellow_Knight      -2
    28      Berflamand      -10
    29      Triley36      -32
    30      Del1962      -39
    31      Bminchow      -44
    31      ZigzagWanderer      -44
    33      Scrooll07      -47
    34      Bonimenier      -50
    35      Titan31      -55
    36      Mellow_Velo      -60
    36      Salvarani      -60
          Collective_Wisdom      11

    Standings
    1      Triley36      1669      0
    2      Search      1255      3
    3      Josedin      1244      0
    4      Rote_Laterne      1135      -2
    5      BluesInTheBottle      1091      4
    6      Northerner      1074      1
    7      Salvarani      1043      -3
    8      Del1962      1042      -2
    9      Berflamand      999      -1
    10      Leadbelly      986      0
    11      BicycleBoy      984      5
    11      Comodoro      984      4
    13      Vladimir      980      6
    14      Rufs      950      -1
    15      Armchair_Cyclist      929      7
    16      Bonimenier      915      -5
    17      Titan31      894      -4
    18      Mellow_Velo      891      -6
    19      Kazistuta      888      3
    20      AmisVelo      880      -2
    21      Manafana      870      -4
    22      EvansIsTheBest      853      -1
    23      ZigzagWanderer      810      -3
    24      Yellow_Knight      741      0
    25      SamuCuenca      736      4
    26      Will10      734      0
    27      Bminchow      698      -2
    28      SafeBet      683      0
    29      SlowClimber      664      1
    30      Scrooll07      660      -3
    31      Nyssinator      657      0
    32      Otoxiep87      623      1
    33      DJSprtsch      610      -1
    34      Laarsland      608      1
    35      JumboVismaFan      516      -1
    36      ArchieBoy      429      0
    37      RedheadDane      156      0
          Collective_Wisdom      805   

    Tomorrow will probably be for the breakaway, so that is likely to mean another day where purple point changes are more significant than pink ones, but the purple point scorers may be those we haven't seen much of yet.  Some of those rare, makeweight picks may get a mention.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #21 on: May 20, 2022, 00:03 »
    Stage 12
    Breakaway, 'nuff said.

    Purple points
    OLDANI Stefano      70      0
    ROTA Lorenzo      40      0
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      25      1
    MOLLEMA Bauke      15      0
    BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago      10      0
    KELDERMAN Wilco      7      3
    HAMILTON Lucas      5      3
    VENDRAME Andrea      3      1
    TAARAMÄE Rein      2      2
    EENKHOORN Pascal      1      0

    Today
    1      Scrooll07      25
    2      Bminchow      7
    2      Bonimenier      7
    2      Nyssinator      7
    5      Armchair_Cyclist      5
    5      Rufs      5
    5      Titan31      5
    8      Will10      3
    9      EvansIsTheBest      2
    9      Laarsland      2
    Evans is the Best extends his lead by 2 points; no-one else who scored was in the top ten, and won't break into it with such paltry scores today.

    Pink points
    Kelderman, Hamilton and Mollema gain some GC positions, and Mollema moves up in the KoM classification.  Ewan's departure doesn't actually cost his 19 teams very many points, but they will not feel as though they have had value for their investment.
    KELDERMAN Wilco      53      3
    HAMILTON Lucas      37      3
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      35      1
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      18      1
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      15      5
    TAARAMÄE Rein      12      2
    KÄMNA Lennard      -10      12
    CARTHY Hugh      -12      18
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      -12      6
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo      -14      1
    EWAN Caleb      -18      19

    Today's changes, such as they are:
    1      Bonimenier      38
    2      Armchair_Cyclist      27
    3      Bminchow      15
    3      Nyssinator      15
    5      Titan31      11
    6      Scrooll07      6
    7      BicycleBoy      0
    8      RedheadDane      -1
    9      EvansIsTheBest      -2
    10      Rufs      -3
    11      Laarsland      -6
    11      Otoxiep87      -6
    13      Search      -7
    14      SamuCuenca      -11
    15      Berflamand      -12
    15      Josedin      -12
    17      Triley36      -13
    18      Mellow_Velo      -15
    19      Comodoro      -17
    20      Salvarani      -19
    21      ZigzagWanderer      -28
    22      BluesInTheBottle      -30
    22      Yellow_Knight      -30
    24      ArchieBoy      -32
    24      DJSprtsch      -32
    26      Manafana      -33
    27      AmisVelo      -36
    27      Vladimir      -36
    29      SafeBet      -37
    30      Northerner      -38
    30      Rote_Laterne      -38
    32      SlowClimber      -39
    33      JumboVismaFan      -41
    33      Kazistuta      -41
    35      Leadbelly      -44
    36      Will10      -46
    37      Del1962      -51
          Collective_Wisdom      -48

    Standings
    1      Triley36      1656      0
    2      Search      1248      0
    3      Josedin      1232      0
    4      Rote_Laterne      1097      0
    5      BluesInTheBottle      1061      0
    6      Northerner      1036      0
    7      Salvarani      1024      0
    8      Del1962      991      0
    9      Berflamand      987      0
    10      BicycleBoy      984      1
    11      Comodoro      967      0
    12      Armchair_Cyclist      956      3
    13      Bonimenier      953      3
    14      Rufs      947      0
    15      Vladimir      944      -2
    16      Leadbelly      942      -6
    17      Titan31      905      0
    18      Mellow_Velo      876      0
    19      EvansIsTheBest      851      3
    20      Kazistuta      847      -1
    21      AmisVelo      844      -1
    22      Manafana      837      -1
    23      ZigzagWanderer      782      0
    24      SamuCuenca      725      1
    25      Bminchow      713      2
    26      Yellow_Knight      711      -2
    27      Will10      688      -1
    28      Nyssinator      672      3
    29      Scrooll07      666      1
    30      SafeBet      646      -2
    31      SlowClimber      625      -2
    32      Otoxiep87      617      0
    33      Laarsland      602      1
    34      DJSprtsch      578      -1
    35      JumboVismaFan      475      0
    36      ArchieBoy      397      0
    37      RedheadDane      155      0
          Collective_Wisdom      757   

    Tomorrow will, one must expect, be equally inconsequential in terms of pink points, but there is little consensus on which group of riders might take the purple ones.
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #22 on: May 20, 2022, 19:49 »
    Stage 13
    It nearly wasn't, but a sprint nonetheless, with all the nothing that usually implies for the game.

    Purple points
    DEMARE Arnaud      70      1
    BAUHAUS Phil      40      1
    CAVENDISH Mark      25      0
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      15      5
    DAINESE Alberto      10      1
    CONSONNI Simone      7      0
    DE BONDT Dries      5      1
    NIZZOLO Giacomo      3      0
    VENDRAME Andrea      2      1
    BAYER Tobias      1      0

    Today
    Two of those unique picks belong to the same manager, Redhead Dane.
    1      Josedin      70
    2      RedheadDane      45
    3      Comodoro      15
    3      EvansIsTheBest      15
    3      Kazistuta      15
    3      Otoxiep87      15
    3      Search      15
    8      SamuCuenca      10
    9      Will10      2

    Standings
    1      EvansIsTheBest      419      0
    2      Josedin      415      0
    3      Kazistuta      339      2
    4      Rote_Laterne      333      -1
    5      DJSprtsch      328      -1
    6      Yellow_Knight      303      0
    7      ZigzagWanderer      303      0
    8      Salvarani      298      0
    9      Leadbelly      288      0
    10      Search      285      2

    Pink points
    Unlucky stage 13 for Bardet and the five teams that have him.
    DEMARE Arnaud      70      1
    BAUHAUS Phil      45      1
    HINDLEY Jai      25      7
    MARTIN Guillaume      25      1
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      25      27
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      25      4
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      18      1
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      15      1
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      15      5
    DAINESE Alberto      13      1
    SIVAKOV Pavel      10      2
    KELDERMAN Wilco      8      3
    ARENSMAN Thymen      8      11
    NIBALI Vincenzo      8      3
    CICCONE Giulio      8      9
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      -8      1
    YATES Simon      -8      18
    BARDET Romain      -267      5

    1      Josedin      108
    2      Berflamand      76
    3      Rufs      66
    4      Northerner      65
    5      Rote_Laterne      61
    5      Titan31      61
    7      SamuCuenca      59
    8      AmisVelo      56
    9      Search      54
    10      RedheadDane      52
    11      SafeBet      50
    12      Comodoro      48
    12      Manafana      48
    14      Leadbelly      45
    14      Vladimir      45
    16      Bminchow      44
    16      EvansIsTheBest      44
    18      Mellow_Velo      43
    19      BluesInTheBottle      31
    20      Armchair_Cyclist      29
    20      Kazistuta      29
    20      SlowClimber      29
    23      Yellow_Knight      27
    24      Nyssinator      25
    25      BicycleBoy      24
    26      ZigzagWanderer      22
    27      Otoxiep87      21
    28      Will10      15
    29      DJSprtsch      6
    30      ArchieBoy      1
    31      Laarsland      -1
    32      JumboVismaFan      -10
    33      Bonimenier      -217
    34      Del1962      -224
    35      Triley36      -234
    36      Salvarani      -237
    37      Scrooll07      -269
          Collective_Wisdom      26

    Standings
    For the first time in many stages, T Riley is within sight of the chasers.  And just when I was thinking of writing that even with the probability of Lopez dropping to about 10th that he likely had enough (with Bardet, Landa and accumulated jersey points) to hang on to the lead.  That looks a lot less likely now, but how high a place can Lopez keep? (and might Rosa hang onto those 70 points for the blue jersey?)
    1      Triley36      1422      0
    2      Josedin      1340      1
    3      Search      1302      -1
    4      Rote_Laterne      1158      0
    5      Northerner      1101      1
    6      BluesInTheBottle      1092      -1
    7      Berflamand      1063      2
    8      Comodoro      1015      3
    9      Rufs      1013      5
    10      BicycleBoy      1008      0
    11      Vladimir      989      4
    12      Leadbelly      987      4
    13      Armchair_Cyclist      985      -1
    14      Titan31      966      3
    15      Mellow_Velo      919      3
    16      AmisVelo      900      5
    17      EvansIsTheBest      895      2
    18      Manafana      885      4
    19      Kazistuta      876      1
    20      ZigzagWanderer      804      3
    21      Salvarani      787      -14
    22      SamuCuenca      784      2
    23      Del1962      767      -15
    24      Bminchow      757      1
    25      Yellow_Knight      738      1
    26      Bonimenier      736      -13
    27      Will10      703      0
    28      Nyssinator      697      0
    29      SafeBet      696      1
    30      SlowClimber      654      1
    31      Otoxiep87      638      1
    32      Laarsland      601      1
    33      DJSprtsch      584      1
    34      JumboVismaFan      465      1
    35      ArchieBoy      398      1
    36      Scrooll07      397      -7
    37      RedheadDane      207      0
          Collective_Wisdom      783   
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #23 on: May 21, 2022, 19:51 »
    Stage 14

    Once again, hills are better than mountains

    Purple points
    Everyone in the top ten got picked: that is very rare.
    YATES Simon      70      18
    HINDLEY Jai      40      7
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      25      7
    NIBALI Vincenzo      15      3
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      10      4
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      7      1
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      5      27
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      3      1
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      2      5
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      1      1

    1      Northerner      117   Yates/Hindley/Landa/Buchmann
    1      Rote_Laterne      117   "
    3      AmisVelo      115   Yates/Hindley/Landa
    3      Comodoro      115   "
    3      Leadbelly      115   "
    3      Manafana      115   "
    7      Armchair_Cyclist      100   Yates/Carapaz/Landa
    8      Triley36      76   Yates/Landa/Lopez
    9      Kazistuta      75   Yates/Landa
    9      Nyssinator      75   "
    9      Otoxiep87      75   "
    9      SafeBet      75   "
    9      SlowClimber      75   "
    9      Will10      75   "
    9      ZigzagWanderer      75   "

    Standings
    1      Rote_Laterne      450      3
    2      Josedin      445      0
    3      EvansIsTheBest      439      -2
    4      Kazistuta      414      -1
    5      Leadbelly      403      4
    6      Comodoro      390      6
    7      ZigzagWanderer      378      0
    8      AmisVelo      363      8
    9      Northerner      332      11
    10      Triley36      329      5

    Pink points
    After a rather passive week in the main classification, apart from the misfortunes of Bardet and Girmay, we finally have some action.  Which is a good thing for some, but not others.

    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      184      7
    HINDLEY Jai      160      7
    YATES Simon      108      18
    NIBALI Vincenzo      76      3
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      68      1
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      60      4
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      55      27
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      27      5
    DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd      16      1
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo      10      1
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      -10      1
    BOL Cees      -15      1
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      -16      6
    CARTHY Hugh      -18      18
    TAARAMÄE Rein      -18      2
    KÄMNA Lennard      -21      12
    ARENSMAN Thymen      -30      11
    DUMOULIN Tom      -42      9
    MARTIN Guillaume      -128      1
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      -349      1

    I presume there was good and bad news for all teams today, but not in equal measure...
    1      Armchair_Cyclist      311
    2      BluesInTheBottle      307
    3      Northerner      304
    4      Leadbelly      296
    5      Comodoro      289
    6      Rote_Laterne      287
    7      Manafana      284
    8      AmisVelo      281
    9      Search      260
    10      Vladimir      251
    11      BicycleBoy      245
    12      Josedin      192
    13      Otoxiep87      156
    14      Laarsland      145
    15      Nyssinator      144
    16      Will10      137
    17      Kazistuta      126
    18      ZigzagWanderer      124
    19      SafeBet      122
    20      SlowClimber      114
    21      Berflamand      88
    22      JumboVismaFan      86
    23      Titan31      85
    24      Scrooll07      80
    25      ArchieBoy      73
    26      EvansIsTheBest      72
    27      Del1962      50
    28      Yellow_Knight      32
    29      Bminchow      30
    29      Salvarani      30
    31      Rufs      28
    32      RedheadDane      6
    33      Mellow_Velo      -29
    34      Bonimenier      -42
    35      DJSprtsch      -47
    36      SamuCuenca      -90
    37      Triley36      -223
          Collective_Wisdom      88

    Standings
    No disrespect intended to Lopez or TRiley, but these perhaps represent a more likely shape of the game.  But with plenty of opportunities for things to change (except maybe for RhD)
    1      Search      1562      2
    2      Josedin      1532      0
    3      Rote_Laterne      1445      1
    4      Northerner      1405      1
    5      BluesInTheBottle      1399      1
    6      Comodoro      1304      2
    7      Armchair_Cyclist      1296      6
    8      Leadbelly      1283      4
    9      BicycleBoy      1253      1
    10      Vladimir      1240      1
    11      Triley36      1199      -10
    12      AmisVelo      1181      4
    13      Manafana      1169      5
    14      Berflamand      1151      -7
    15      Titan31      1051      -1
    16      Rufs      1041      -7
    17      Kazistuta      1002      2
    18      EvansIsTheBest      967      -1
    19      ZigzagWanderer      928      1
    20      Mellow_Velo      890      -5
    21      Nyssinator      841      7
    22      Will10      840      5
    23      SafeBet      818      6
    24      Del1962      817      -1
    24      Salvarani      817      -3
    26      Otoxiep87      794      5
    27      Bminchow      787      -3
    28      Yellow_Knight      770      -3
    29      SlowClimber      768      1
    30      Laarsland      746      2
    31      Bonimenier      694      -5
    31      SamuCuenca      694      -9
    33      JumboVismaFan      551      1
    34      DJSprtsch      537      -1
    35      Scrooll07      477      1
    36      ArchieBoy      471      -1
    37      RedheadDane      213      0
          Collective_Wisdom      871   

    Laarsland now only has 3 riders left; Del 1962 has one more, but has 2262 points of his budget having a lie in tomorrow.

    And just about the only thing that didn't change today is the interforum challenge position:
    VR 1071
    CN 953
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #24 on: May 21, 2022, 19:58 »
    A VR top-3! :cool
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #25 on: May 23, 2022, 15:19 »
    Stage 15

    Taking advantage of the rest day by not doing the update last night, but extra info to make up for it.

    Purple points

    CICCONE Giulio      70      9
    BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago      40      0
    PEDRERO LOPEZ Antonio      25      1
    CARTHY Hugh      15      18
    TUSVELD Martijn      10      0
    COVILI Luca      7      0
    TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit      5      1
    MOLLEMA Bauke      3      0
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      2      1
    MARTIN Guillaume      1      1

    On the day
    5 teams have both Ciccone and Carthy, but only Scrooll has Leemreize as well.
    1      Scrooll07      87
    2      Bminchow      85
    2      Kazistuta      85
    2      Rufs      85
    2      SafeBet      85
    6      AmisVelo      70
    6      BluesInTheBottle      70
    6      Leadbelly      70
    6      Vladimir      70
    10      ArchieBoy      25
    11      Berflamand      15

    Main stage points scorers to stage 15 ( a second place or higher points equivalent)

    DEMARE Arnaud      265      1
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      160      4
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      155      6
    YATES Simon      140      18
    CAVENDISH Mark      127      0
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      120      5
    HINDLEY Jai      110      7
    DAINESE Alberto      87      1
    KÄMNA Lennard      80      12
    BOUWMAN Koen      77      0
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      73      7
    CICCONE Giulio      70      9
    DE GENDT Thomas      70      3
    OLDANI Stefano      70      0
    MOLLEMA Bauke      63      0
    BAUHAUS Phil      57      1
    EWAN Caleb      53      19
    BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago      50      0
    BARDET Romain      48      5
    CONSONNI Simone      41      0
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      41      1
    DUMOULIN Tom      40      9
    GABBURO Davide      40      0
    ROTA Lorenzo      40      0

    Standings
    (with riders who have 40 pts + in this classification for the top ten)

    1      Kazistuta      499      3   Yates/Gaviria/Kamna/Ciccone/Ewan
    2      Leadbelly      473      3   Yates/Hindley/Kamna/Ciccone/Ewan
    3      Josedin      460      -1   Demare/Carapaz/De Gendt
    4      Rote_Laterne      450      -3   Yates/Hindley/Kamna/Ewan/Dumoulin
    5      EvansIsTheBest      439      -2   Girmay/Gaviria/Ewan/Dumoulin
    6      AmisVelo      433      2   Yates/Hindley/Ciccone/Ewan/Dumoulin
    7      Comodoro      405      -1   Yates/Gaviria/Hindley
    8      ZigzagWanderer      383      -1   Girmay/Yates/Ewan
    9      Rufs      365      10   Van der Poel/Ciccone/Ewan/Dumoulin
    10      Bminchow      355      12   Girmay/Ciccone/Ewan
    11      Search      340      1   
    12      BluesInTheBottle      333      12   
    13      Northerner      332      -4   
    14      Triley36      329      -4   
    15      DJSprtsch      328      -4   
    16      Yellow_Knight      323      -1   
    17      BicycleBoy      318      -4   
    18      Will10      312      -4   
    19      Scrooll07      310      7   
    20      JumboVismaFan      305      -4   
    21      Salvarani      303      -4   
    22      Otoxiep87      302      -4   
    23      Manafana      286      -2   
    24      Nyssinator      280      -1   
    25      Armchair_Cyclist      278      -5   
    26      Del1962      274      -1   
    27      SafeBet      254      5   
    28      ArchieBoy      238      1   
    29      SlowClimber      237      -2   
    30      Titan31      235      -2   
    31      Vladimir      224      3   
    32      Berflamand      216      -2   
    33      SamuCuenca      194      -2   
    34      Laarsland      163      -1   
    35      Bonimenier      162      0   
    36      Mellow_Velo      107      0   
    37      RedheadDane      69      0   
          Collective_Wisdom      310         
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #26 on: May 23, 2022, 16:58 »
    Main (Pink) competition
    Stage 15 update

    CICCONE Giulio      109      9
    BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago      56      0
    PEDRERO LOPEZ Antonio      42      1
    BOUWMAN Koen      24      0
    MARTIN Guillaume      24      1
    CARTHY Hugh      23      18
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      16      1
    TUSVELD Martijn      16      0
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      13      7
    COVILI Luca      11      0
    TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit      10      1
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      -10      6
    FORMOLO Davide      -11      0
    TAARAMÄE Rein      -11      2
    VALTER Attila      -11      3
    HAMILTON Chris      -12      0
    FORTUNATO Lorenzo      -14      1
    CONTI Valerio      -15      0
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      -15      0
    YATES Simon      -16      18
    ROSA Diego      -30      2

    On the day:
    1      Rufs      132
    1      Scrooll07      132
    3      Bminchow      127
    4      Vladimir      126
    5      Kazistuta      122
    6      BluesInTheBottle      111
    7      SafeBet      109
    8      AmisVelo      93
    9      Leadbelly      92
    10      Josedin      36
    11      Search      35
    12      ArchieBoy      24
    13      Berflamand      23
    13      Yellow_Knight      23
    15      Del1962      22
    16      Bonimenier      18
    17      Mellow_Velo      16
    17      SamuCuenca      16
    19      BicycleBoy      13
    20      Titan31      9
    21      DJSprtsch      5
    22      Laarsland      2
    23      SlowClimber      0
    24      Salvarani      -1
    25      Armchair_Cyclist      -3
    25      Comodoro      -3
    27      RedheadDane      -5
    28      Manafana      -9
    28      Nyssinator      -9
    30      Otoxiep87      -11
    31      EvansIsTheBest      -17
    31      Rote_Laterne      -17
    33      Northerner      -26
    34      JumboVismaFan      -32
    35      ZigzagWanderer      -36
    36      Will10      -45
    37      Triley36      -57
          Collective_Wisdom      6

    Top scoring riders
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      620      7
    HINDLEY Jai      510      7
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      371      1
    DEMARE Arnaud      350      1
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      338      1
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      285      27
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      257      4
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      248      1
    VAN DER POEL Mathieu      239      6
    YATES Simon      202      18
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      197      5
    BOUWMAN Koen      195      0
    NIBALI Vincenzo      183      3
    CAVENDISH Mark      182      0
    CICCONE Giulio      169      9
    GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando      160      5
    GIRMAY HAILU Biniam      160      4
    KELDERMAN Wilco      143      3
    KÄMNA Lennard      141      12
    MARTIN Guillaume      138      1
    MOLLEMA Bauke      132      0
    BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago      128      0
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      124      0
    DAINESE Alberto      112      1
    HIRT Jan      112      0
    HAMILTON Lucas      101      3

    Standings

    With the 100 pt + scorers for the top ten
    1      Search      1597      0   Carapaz/Landa/Pozzovivo/Gaviria/Kamna
    2      Josedin      1568      0   Carapaz/Demare/Landa
    3      BluesInTheBottle      1510      2   Carapaz/Hindley/Ciccone/Kamna
    4      Rote_Laterne      1428      -1   Hindley/Landa/Yates/Buchmann/Kamna
    5      Northerner      1379      -1   Hindley/Landa/Yates/Buchmann
    6      Leadbelly      1375      2   Hindley/Landa/Yates/Ciccone/Kamna
    7      Vladimir      1366      3   Carapaz/Buchmann/Nibali/Ciccone
    8      Comodoro      1301      -2   Hindley/Landa/Yates/Gaviria
    9      Armchair_Cyclist      1293      -2   Carapaz/Landa/Yates/Hamilton
    10      AmisVelo      1274      2   Hindley/Landa/Yates/Ciccone
    11      BicycleBoy      1266      -2   
    12      Berflamand      1174      2   
    13      Rufs      1173      3   
    14      Manafana      1160      -1   
    15      Triley36      1142      -4   
    16      Kazistuta      1124      1   
    17      Titan31      1060      -2   
    18      EvansIsTheBest      950      0   
    19      SafeBet      927      4   
    20      Bminchow      914      7   
    21      Mellow_Velo      906      -1   
    22      ZigzagWanderer      892      -3   
    23      Del1962      839      1   
    24      Nyssinator      832      -3   
    25      Salvarani      816      -1   
    26      Will10      795      -4   
    27      Yellow_Knight      793      1   
    28      Otoxiep87      783      -2   
    29      SlowClimber      768      0   
    30      Laarsland      748      0   
    31      Bonimenier      712      0   
    32      SamuCuenca      710      -1   
    33      Scrooll07      609      2   
    34      DJSprtsch      542      0   
    35      JumboVismaFan      519      -2   
    36      ArchieBoy      495      0   
    37      RedheadDane      208      0   
          Collective_Wisdom      877         

    And a bad luck table (number of DNFs, net cost of DNFs)
    Laarsland      5      1342
    Del1962      4      2121
    DJSprtsch      4      1554
    Bonimenier      3      1702
    EvansIsTheBest      3      1551
    Bminchow      3      1487
    Rote_Laterne      3      1244
    AmisVelo      3      1244
    Triley36      2      1384
    Scrooll07      2      1384
    ZigzagWanderer      2      1193
    SlowClimber      2      979
    JumboVismaFan      2      979
    Northerner      2      926
    Leadbelly      2      926
    Yellow_Knight      2      926
    Rufs      2      737
    Otoxiep87      2      571

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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #27 on: May 24, 2022, 19:06 »
    Looks like it's gonna be a topsy-turvy last week, the top-3 could very easily swap with 4-6 depending on what happens between Carapaz and Hindley. My hopes rest on Hindley winning that battle, Ciccone picking up another stage (and the KoM?) and Emu dropping down the GC. "Make it so number one!"
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #28 on: May 24, 2022, 19:28 »
    I may unlike this later on again
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    Re: 2022 Giro CQ Game
    « Reply #29 on: May 25, 2022, 00:37 »
    Stage 16 The 'Queen Stage'

    Untold chaos and drama, so long as you ignore the top 4.

    Purplish points
    HIRT Jan      70      0
    ARENSMAN Thymen      40      11
    HINDLEY Jai      25      7
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      15      7
    VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro      10      0
    LANDA MEANA Mikel      7      27
    KÄMNA Lennard      5      12
    ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves      3      1
    NIBALI Vincenzo      2      3
    CARTHY Hugh      1      18

    Today
    1      Northerner      72   Arensman/Hindley/Landa
    2      Josedin      63   Arensman/Carapaz/Landa/Carthy
    3      Vladimir      57   Arensman/Carapaz/Nibali
    4      Mellow_Velo      51   Arensman/Landa/Almeida/Carthy
    5      Berflamand      48   Arensman/Landa/Carthy
    5      Titan31      48   
    5      SafeBet      48   
    5      SlowClimber      48   
    5      Bonimenier      48   
    10      ZigzagWanderer      47   Arensman/Landa
    11      BluesInTheBottle      45   Hindley/Carapaz/Kamna
    12      ArchieBoy      40   Arensman

    Standings
    1      Josedin      523      2
    2      Kazistuta      512      -1
    3      Leadbelly      510      -1
    4      Rote_Laterne      487      0
    5      AmisVelo      465      1
    6      EvansIsTheBest      448      -1
    7      Comodoro      438      0
    8      ZigzagWanderer      430      0
    9      Northerner      404      4
    10      BluesInTheBottle      378      2

    Pink points
    Lots of changes in GC, just not at the top of it.

    NIBALI Vincenzo      77      3
    ARENSMAN Thymen      63      11
    CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio      30      7
    CARTHY Hugh      23      18
    KÄMNA Lennard      20      12
    SIVAKOV Pavel      16      2
    HINDLEY Jai      15      7
    PRONSKIY Vadim      11      1
    LEEMREIZE Gijs      -14      1
    SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro      -14      6
    ROSA Diego      -15      2
    TESFATSION Natnael Ocbit      -22      1
    POZZOVIVO Domenico      -25      4
    BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello      -25      1
    BUCHMANN Emanuel      -25      5
    LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro      -30      1
    KELDERMAN Wilco      -33      3
    MARTIN Guillaume      -51      1

    Today
    1      Vladimir      156
    2      Del1962      127
    3      Josedin      123
    4      SafeBet      110
    5      Mellow_Velo      96
    6      SlowClimber      93
    7      EvansIsTheBest      90
    8      Titan31      84
    9      ArchieBoy      69
    10      Bonimenier      60
    11      Search      55
    12      BluesInTheBottle      52
    13      Kazistuta      50
    14      Northerner      46
    15      Armchair_Cyclist      45
    16      Leadbelly      43
    16      Salvarani      43
    16      Berflamand      43
    19      Laarsland      35
    20      ZigzagWanderer      33
    21      Manafana      32
    22      Comodoro      31
    23      Yellow_Knight      30
    23      Otoxiep87      30
    25      DJSprtsch      24
    25      JumboVismaFan      24
    27      AmisVelo      23
    28      Rote_Laterne      17
    29      Rufs      14
    30      Will10      13
    31      Scrooll07      10
    32      BicycleBoy      5
    33      Bminchow      -2
    33      RedheadDane      -2
    35      Nyssinator      -3
    36      Triley36      -32
    37      SamuCuenca      -56
          Collective_Wisdom      113

    Standings
    Change at the top, because Arensman's gains were much more than the slight net loss of Kamna and Pozzovivo.
    The top 4 have Carapaz, the next three have Hindley (and BitB in 3rd has both)
    1      Josedin      1691      1
    2      Search      1652      -1
    3      BluesInTheBottle      1562      0
    4      Vladimir      1522      3
    5      Rote_Laterne      1445      -1
    6      Northerner      1425      -1
    7      Leadbelly      1418      -1
    8      Armchair_Cyclist      1338      1
    9      Comodoro      1332      -1
    10      AmisVelo      1297      0
    11      BicycleBoy      1271      0
    12      Berflamand      1217      0
    13      Manafana      1192      1
    14      Rufs      1187      -1
    15      Kazistuta      1174      1
    16      Titan31      1144      1
    17      Triley36      1110      -2
    18      EvansIsTheBest      1040      0
    19      SafeBet      1037      0
    20      Mellow_Velo      1002      1
    21      Del1962      966      2
    22      ZigzagWanderer      925      0
    23      Bminchow      912      -3
    24      SlowClimber      861      5
    25      Salvarani      859      0
    26      Nyssinator      829      -2
    27      Yellow_Knight      823      0
    28      Otoxiep87      813      0
    29      Will10      808      -3
    30      Laarsland      783      0
    31      Bonimenier      772      0
    32      SamuCuenca      654      0
    33      Scrooll07      619      0
    34      DJSprtsch      566      0
    35      ArchieBoy      564      1
    36      JumboVismaFan      543      -1
    37      RedheadDane      206      0
          Collective_Wisdom      990   

    VR 1167
    CN 1020
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