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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2012, 14:12 »
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For the last 15 years or so  it has been the other way rond: there is a huge number of ways in which riders can dope, and any exploits are derisory.

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2012, 11:59 »


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The Secret Race is a definitive look at the world of professional cycling—and the doping issue surrounding this sport and its most iconic rider, Lance Armstrong—by former Olympic gold medalist Tyler Hamilton and New York Times bestselling author Daniel Coyle.
 
Over the course of two years, Coyle conducted more than two hundred hours of interviews with Hamilton and spoke candidly with numerous teammates, rivals, and friends. The result is an explosive book that takes us, for the first time, deep inside a shadowy, fascinating, and surreal world of unscrupulous doctors, anything-goes team directors, and athletes so relentlessly driven to succeed that they would do anything—and take any risk, physical, mental, or moral—to gain the edge they need to win.
 
Tyler Hamilton was once one of the world’s best-liked and top-ranked cyclists—a fierce competitor renowned among his peers for his uncanny endurance and epic tolerance for pain. In the 2003 Tour de France, he finished fourth despite breaking his collarbone in the early stages—and grinding eleven of his teeth down to the nerves along the way. He started his career with the U.S. Postal Service team in the 1990s and quickly rose to become Lance Armstrong’s most trusted lieutenant, and a member of his inner circle. For the first three of Armstrong’s record seven Tour de France victories, Hamilton was by Armstrong’s side, clearing his way. But just weeks after Hamilton reached his own personal pinnacle—winning the gold medal at the 2004 Olympics—his career came to a sudden, ignominious end: He was found guilty of doping and exiled from the sport.
 
From the exhilaration of his early, naïve days in the peloton, Hamilton chronicles his ascent to the uppermost reaches of this unforgiving sport. In the mid-1990s, the advent of a powerful new blood-boosting drug called EPO reshaped the world of cycling, and a relentless, win-at-any-cost ethos took root. Its psychological toll would drive many of the sport’s top performers to substance abuse, depression, even suicide. For the first time ever, Hamilton recounts his own battle with clinical depression, speaks frankly about the agonizing choices that go along with the decision to compete at a world-class level, and tells the story of his complicated relationship with Lance Armstrong.
 
A journey into the heart of a never-before-seen world, The Secret Race is a riveting, courageous act of witness from a man who is as determined to reveal the hard truth about his sport as he once was to win the Tour de France.

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2012, 12:10 »
One Way Road - Robbie McEwen

I liked the book.  Robbie is pretty amusing and his personality comes through fairly well in the book.   He is very full of himself - a huge attitude of "I am the best, and everyone else should have just let me through" kind of stuff - but over all, I enjoyed the book

My Dream Year - Philippe Gilbert

I liked this too (no surprise there ;D)
Phil's personality doesnt come through much though.  It is written by a fan(?) in third hand - with excerpts that he has written, rather than being in his own words/thoughts.

It is only about last year (fair enough), and I thought it could have done with a bit more about where he has come from and stuff.

It did go in to how he was feeling during the year, and each point and a lot about stuff that happened.  At various points he wasnt exactly thrilled with his team (Greipel in the Tour, and the lack of support in the autumn classics.  The team was winding up, so didnt really do much to help him  (though he had announced he was going to BMC by then, so no real surprise that they didnt care if he was world no 1 or not).

He said the team pressured him substantially early on (the day after LBL) to sign a contract to renew with Omega ... which he wasnt too impressed with.

The major part I didnt like was when he was saying about the post-tour crits - he said 'I won this one' or 'Cadel won - 'he was stronger and fresher than me' without actually acknowledging that they are staged.  Either acknowledge they are fixed, or dont mention the result.  Dont pretend they are real races.

Anyway - overall, I really liked the book   ;D

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2012, 13:03 »


Lance Armstrong's War is the extraordinary story of greatness pushed to its limits; a vivid, behind-the-scenes portrait of perhaps the most accomplished athlete of our time as he vies for a historic sixth straight victory in the toughest sporting event on the planet. It is the true story of a superlative sports figure fighting on all fronts—made newly vulnerable by age, fate, fame, doping allegations, a painful divorce, and an unprecedented army of challengers—while mastering the exceedingly difficult trick of being Lance Armstrong, a combination of world-class athlete, celebrity, regular guy, and, for many Americans, secular saint.

With a new afterword by the author, featuring in-depth reporting on:

Armstrong's unprecedented seventh consecutive Tour de France victory
New blood doping allegations
Armstrong's continuing personal and legal battles, and his retirement
A fascinating journey through the little-known landscape of professional bike racing, Lance Armstrong's War provides a hugely insightful look into the often inspiring, always surprising core of a remarkable athlete and the world that shapes him.

--This text refers to the Kindle Edition edition.





anyone read this ?

same author as Tylers´book

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2012, 09:00 »
next lot of books arrived today





read it finally to to be honest Meh - maybe I knew too much before reading it dry as a sandal warn in the middle east - meh only thing was that Eddy had 3 positives I always thought it was " only " 2

and the author has a new book which I will not be reading but some of you may want to.



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Bradley Wiggins is Britain's most successful and best known cyclist. He emerged as a talented track cyclist and then moved onto the roads with increasing success, culminating in his stunning summer of 2012 when he became the first British cyclist to win the Tour and bring home the yellow jersey and then went on to win Olympic gold in the time trial.

Daniel Friebe celebrates Wiggo's record breaking summer, as Team Sky took on the Tour de France and brought home the yellow jersey. He looks at the build up to the 2012 Tour as well as the strategy that brought ultimate success.

'Allez Wiggo!' - the cry of the French fans lining the roads who fell in love with our mod genius on two wheels.

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2012, 10:18 »
Eh, instant books are usually not much cop. Especially unauthorised autobiographies. I'll wait for Wiggo to put out his own book next year or whatever.

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2012, 14:01 »
Just read...



Great book, fascinating insight into his racing life, great rider..

As a man and a human being, what a complete and utter tosspot..

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2012, 14:02 »
Just started reading



Good interview with Fotheringham about the book on Cyclismas

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2012, 14:04 »
JSG have you read?

No not yet need to do a new road of book orders

The secret race got in the way

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2012, 14:19 »


Goodness me.
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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2012, 14:35 »
Just read...



Great book, fascinating insight into his racing life, great rider..

As a man and a human being, what a complete and utter tosspot..

Yes, this was a great one!  Though at times Howard seemed to try and defend Anquetil's questionable lifestyle

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2012, 17:38 »
Just read...



Great book, fascinating insight into his racing life, great rider..

As a man and a human being, what a complete and utter tosspot..

Didn't he do something like marry his trainer's wife (after they had divorced obviously) and then when she couldn't give him kids after he had retired, start sleeping with her daughter from her first marriage? 
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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2012, 17:42 »
Didn't he do something like marry his trainer's wife (after they had divorced obviously) and then when she couldn't give him kids after he had retired, start sleeping with her daughter from her first marriage? 

to be honest, i lost track, he married, then remarried, then he starting having children through his stepdaughters, or something or other, then i think he had children through one stepdaughter while being married to the other.. god knows.. it was all a complete mess.

At one point he was involved with both his wife, and his stepdaughter, having children through the daughter, possibly the wife too, and when that fell apart, he had a child with his stepsons wife..

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2012, 17:46 »
Grandfather of his son/daughter?

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« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2012, 17:46 »
to be honest, i lost track, he married, then remarried, then he starting having children through his stepdaughters, or something or other, then i think he had children through one stepdaughter while being married to the other.. god knows.. it was all a complete mess.

At one point he was involved with both his wife, and his stepdaughter, having children through the daughter, possibly the wife too, and when that fell apart, he had a child with his stepsons wife..
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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2012, 18:17 »
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Right thats it..
It is on the list  O0

From meh to yay in two easy steps! ;D

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2012, 13:27 »
Has anyone read "Road to Valour: Gino Bartali: Tour de France Legend and Italy's Secret World War Two Hero"?

It's an biography on Bartali focusing on the years during the war. It's absolutely amazing. I started this morning and have now read 180 pages more or less without a pause.
All this talk about equality. The only thing people really have in common is that they are all going to die.

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« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2012, 14:08 »
Has anyone read "Road to Valour: Gino Bartali: Tour de France Legend and Italy's Secret World War Two Hero"?

It's an biography on Bartali focusing on the years during the war. It's absolutely amazing. I started this morning and have now read 180 pages more or less without a pause.

Nice

it is now on the list that is 2  8)

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2012, 15:29 »
Has anyone read "Road to Valour: Gino Bartali: Tour de France Legend and Italy's Secret World War Two Hero"?

It's an biography on Bartali focusing on the years during the war. It's absolutely amazing. I started this morning and have now read 180 pages more or less without a pause.

Yeah I read.  As a narrative of the war I enjoyed it.

But all his cycling accomplishments, Giro victories, classics achievements, Coppi rivalry (definitely this one)   were all pushed to the wayside.

I learned lots and was intrigued from a historical standpoint, but from a cycling standpoint- I felt it definitely lacked substance

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« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2012, 16:04 »
Yeah I read.  As a narrative of the war I enjoyed it.

But all his cycling accomplishments, Giro victories, classics achievements, Coppi rivalry (definitely this one)   were all pushed to the wayside.

I learned lots and was intrigued from a historical standpoint, but from a cycling standpoint- I felt it definitely lacked substance

Yeah, you're right about that. I am probably a bit biased because I study history and am currently writing my master's thesis on cycling in Italy from a historical perspective for which the book is very well suited.

It is as much a narrative about the life of a resistor during wartime as it is of a cyclist.

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« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2012, 16:29 »
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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2013, 15:00 »
Seven Deadly Sins - David Walsh

I think its fair to say I'd been looking forward to this one. Now, I have read all of David's work, all his articles, Lance to Landis, LA Confidentiel, watched most of his interviews, the Late Late Show with Stephen Roche, etc, so I wasnt expecting anything new from 7ds. What I was expecting was an organised, chronological account of his time investigating Lance, updated, reworded, with perhaps a few personal reflections thrown in.

Unfortunately, I got none of those. What we ended up with was, at best, a cut and paste hatchet job, at worst a cynical attempt to cash in with the minimal of work.

Seven Deadly Sins isnt a story, its a collection of short stories, botched together with seemingly little thought. After 200 pages we get onto a section about Stephen Swart, half way through it he says
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On the team with Swart was a young American by the name of Lance Armstrong
By 200 pages, we know who Armstrong is, and the fact that Walsh hasnt taken the time to revise the text and make it flow, add some sort of continuity simply highlights the cut and paste job he has employed.

I do admit to skipping large sections of the book. I didnt really need to read virtually the entire transcript of the SCA deposition, or all of Floyds emails to USADA, or entire chapters lifted directly from LA Confidentiel.

As I say, I wasnt expecting anything new, and to those who have read Walsh books and articles, watched the videos of the SCA case, followed the Armstrong case closely, or seen interviews with Walsh there will be nothing new. For those new to the story, who havnt followed it closely, it will no doubt be an interesting read, but for those of us that have Walsh needed to do more than simply collate various writings into one vaguely readable form.

In doing this, and my biggest annoyance was the somewhat haphazard timeline. One minute Times of London have settled with Armstrongs Lawyers, the next minute we are back pre release of the Times article, then suddenly we are post settlement again, then back in time to the court case. A chapter later as we move to discuss the 2005 retested epo samples suddenly we whizz back pre LA Confidentiel again. With each fresh short story we are re-acquainted with the background to the story, and after a while it becomes not only frustrating, but annoying.

A little over two thirds of the way in you hit upon the section about Floyd. Some of the information regarding Kyle Leogrande is interesting, and new, he touches on Joe Papp and offers interesting background (this was probably the best bit of the book), but then he lets it all down by referring to Floyds book incorrectly as "False Positive" which rather shatters your opinion of the entire section.

7DS is an interesting enough read. Those not familiar with the story will no doubt find it fascinating. Those close to the story will find it frustrating as it becomes more and more obvious through the book that this is a quick hatchet job put together to be released at a relevant time.

7DS is an ok book, but it could have been an excellent book. David had one shot at putting together his masterprice. A couple of months spent editing, revising, correcting, updating could have turned it into Walsh's finest piece of writing. Instead we are left questioning his financial motives rather than his journalistic ones.

In short, if youve not read Lance to Landis, or La Confidential buy it, its a decent enough read even with its obvious flaws. if you have, then its largely up to you. Buy it, support Walsh, or dont buy it and you wont really have missed anything.

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2013, 14:15 »
"Sturgess, don't you dare get off that bike" - Sean Kelly, Nokere, 1989.

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2013, 18:19 »
I read it in French and found it rather mild. Perhaps they doped the translation too. ;D

Fignon was one of the great cycling characters but I'm afraid his writing is pretty awful. Perhaps I took the whole "professor" thing with him too literally. ;)

What I enjoyed the most though, as I always have with retrospective autobiogs (as opposed to those ghostwritten for still-active riders), is the intimacy with which all the behind-the-scenes routines are described.

I read it in French too and I loved it. A lot of crusty anecdote and a great sense of humour. Of course Fignon is not Chateaubriand lol, but when you read the book in French and if you've heard him commentating races on TV, you really feel that it's him writing and nobody else. I just wish he had commented on his 1988 Paris-Roubaix defeat, there's no mentin of it. What I also liked is that there is no picture in it (which means a lot of text at an affordable price). At least in the French version.

However there's a terrible mistake in the book. On the tri-bar controversy he says that the UCI commissar at the Merckx GP 1989 who did not let him ride with the tri-bars was the same as the one who let LeMond ride the Tour de France with it. It's inaccurate. The commissar at the Merckx GP was Mr Ledent and at the Tour de France was Mr Jacquat. Mr Ledent was on duty at the Giro and did not let Hampsten race with the tri-bars either. Hence he was consistent with himself.


By the way L'arriviste, since you are fluent in French I'd like to recommend you these two great books (if you haven't already read it) ;):





Bordas' book influenced my stance on doping.  ;) Ollivier's book was probably the best biography I've ever read. Complete about all Coppi victories whatever their importance, his training methods and even a short bio about his gregarii: Ettore Milano and Andrea Carrea.

I also have a lot of books in Dutch but I don't know how your Dutch is.

Also read Half Man Half Bike, it is funny because I've had a look at Fotheringham's bibliography and realized that I had already read 50% of his sources in French.  :D

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Re: Cycling Books
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2013, 18:48 »
This one is on my shopping list! Marco's a cool guy and knows his 'science'... could be a good read!

does anyone know if there'll be a print version in english?

 

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