But I will add that when it suits me I can be the biggest hypocrite period! ;D

yeah me too    ;D

I do actually agree with you that most teams should start out as pro conti and have time to grow and mature over a bit of time.

BUT - I do think Greenedge being pro-tour first up is a good thing for Australian cycling and will grow cycling in Australia exponentially - especially this year on the back of Evan's winning Le Tour and (IMO) likely to go back to back .... so I am ok with Greenedge 

go to your profile, modify profile>buddies/ignore list, and then edit ignore list. Its always been there

Thanks, hadn't been in the buddy list section before.

@Dave I think they have 3 years to find a sponsor I'm not really worried about them getting one now. If they can't find a sponsor by then, yeah a bit of a fail but not so at the moment, when GR is happy to foot the bill for 72 months.

Jerry Ryan is only commited to funding till the end of next year, 2013

They actually have a decent team for Haut Var, maybe Gerrans has eased up after the summer but Albasini and Clarke should hopefully improve from Med.

That's why I stay out of Cycling Central. It seems to have it's own little alternate reality there, kinda like the Clinic in that other forum.

Everytime I go to CC I seem to get banned :p

did not know that was possible.

Try posting some comments in the articles that don't go with the flow. It's possible....

Shows how many people have read it, or what their pre-concieved views are on GE. I was being completely sarcastic, as evidenced by the smiley. It is not a puff piece on GE its an article highlight their complete lack of wins in Oman.

Shows how many people have read it, or what their pre-concieved views are on GE. I was being completely sarcastic, as evidenced by the smiley. It is not a puff piece on GE its an article highlight their complete lack of wins in Oman.

I read it and thought, bit harsh to call that a puff piece. so yes joke went shooting straight over my head

The only thing i thought when reading it was point i made before. phrase like 'stamp their authority on the race'

this is the Australian attitude, even when they have done very little they can be very optimistic about what is still to come. In the UK press article would use language like, have final stage to take something from a poor showing. the language is subtly different but important.

while it can be frustrating / amusing to others i still think that attitude is responsible for a lot of Australia's sporting success

The one that summed it up for me was watching a long distance athletics track race at something like the commonwealth games. The Australian woman was running maybe 12th and long long way off the lead. 3/4 of the way through the race the commentator was saying, well she is going to have to make her move soon to qualify. no negativity and no discussing the failure of Australian athletes against their African counter parts, just strange sense that she still hand a chance despite the overwhelming evidence against it. she finished about 12th, well outside of qualifying and had actually run a personal best so really had no chance to make it.

labouring the point slightly as struggling to explain myself without sounding negative. Overwhelming self belief in all circumstances i guess.

I read it and thought, bit harsh to call that a puff piece. so yes joke went shooting straight over my head

The only thing i thought when reading it was point i made before. phrase like 'stamp their authority on the race'

this is the Australian attitude, even when they have done very little they can be very optimistic about what is still to come. In the UK press article would use language like, have final stage to take something from a poor showing. the language is subtly different but important.

while it can be frustrating / amusing to others i still think that attitude is responsible for a lot of Australia's sporting success

The one that summed it up for me was watching a long distance athletics track race at something like the commonwealth games. The Australian woman was running maybe 12th and long long way off the lead. 3/4 of the way through the race the commentator was saying, well she is going to have to make her move soon to qualify. no negativity and no discussing the failure of Australian athletes against their African counter parts, just strange sense that she still hand a chance despite the overwhelming evidence against it. she finished about 12th, well outside of qualifying and had actually run a personal best so really had no chance to make it.

labouring the point slightly as struggling to explain myself without sounding negative. Overwhelming self belief in all circumstances i guess.

Yeah point I was really trying to make is that there really isn't that much media "hype". The cycling media, particularly CC, will focus on GE now because hey, its an Aussie registered team but the article shows, why not overtly negative, they're not afraid to write something which does draw attention to the fact GE may have been a bit quieter in February then they'd have liked.

Thanks for the compliment btw

Have gREENedge left Australia yet?

Have to think this was a disappointing weekend for them.

according to report on their website they had some bad luck with crashes on saturday at crucial moments but i think they would have wanted to make some sort of impression on races like these.

Have to think this was a disappointing weekend for them.

according to report on their website they had some bad luck with crashes on saturday at crucial moments but i think they would have wanted to make some sort of impression on races like these.

I agree, they were quite anonymous.  Not a huge amount of bustle about them at the race starts either, not that that is necessarily indicative of anything.  Best finisher at Omloop was Tomas Vaitkus in 56th.  What happened to Langeveld?  Better showing at KBK with Kruopis in 12th but outplaced by riders from Spidertech and AccentJobs.

Aye, just before that idiot waved to the camera, they zoomed back to a crash in the peloton. Langeveld was just climbing back on his bike, but it didn't look like he got caught too badly (certainly not compared to Velits and another rider who were not getting up).

He joined a small group of other crash-vistims and drop-outs, not your best companions to get stuck with, at the bottom of the Eikenberg, with the peloton already on the other side of it. So must have happened with 55k to go, or something close to it.

Things looked up a bit, when Gilbert also got into trouble, and also got stuck in the "Langeveld" group. By the time they rejoined the peloton, the group of 10 had already formed, so they both missed the crucial split.

Erm,

cyclingfever has Davis down to ride Milan San Remo.  that doesnt surprise me, with Goss not showing any form yet, as Davis has the pedigree for a such a race.  What I cant work out is how he can try to be in good form without riding P-N or T-A.  Has his star fallen so far that he isnt even going to be a back up to an underperforming Goss?

Maybe Goss will show great form at T-A and subsequently do well at MSR and the point will be moot.

Davis had MSR as his number 1 goal in Jan so no idea why he is not racing

Greenedge seem to be doing strange things at the moment

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/paris-nice-tirreno-adriatico-crucial-for-greenedge

Rates the season as a 7/10 so far...  Feel that's a little generous, and if they screw up over the next few weeks up to MSR, then that 7 will be heading downhill very quickly.