2012 Race Archive - The placegetter sprinter for 2012 (aka sprinter's biggest loser)

DinZ · « **Reply #30 on:** April 25, 2012, 23:29 »

Another 2nd for Goss. Losing to Renshaw as well. that is championship form

bicing · « **Reply #31 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:03 »

interesting thread, bicing

Havetts · « **Reply #32 on:** April 27, 2012, 15:42 »

4th 2nd place by Goss today. lol

bicing · « **Reply #33 on:** April 29, 2012, 17:59 »

Ladies, gentlemen, boys and girls... I present the second update of the sprinter's most interesting trophy... the "I'm so good I beat everyone except one, all the time" prize

. This prestigious award informally has such names as Tyler Farrar, Daniele Bennati and JJ Rojas to its names. Who will it be this year, the first "official" tally.

SAGAN GOSS FARRAR RENSHAW

Sagan and Farrar both remain in the top of the standings from their earlier efforts. Farrar has dropped off lately and Sagan is taking a rest, so these two should fall away from the standings. In favour of the Aussies Goss and Renshaw, who stormed into leading positions of this category single handedly via the Presidential Tour of Turkey, where Goss in particular pulled off 4 2nd placings. This is pure form leading into the Giro, where he should take more 2nd places to Cavendish.

So, as we know the sprinter's biggest loser is not so simple as most podiums but it is a factor. These four have the highest number of podiums in leading company, but who is the BIGGEST LOSER of them all so far?!

bicing · « **Reply #34 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:55 »

Placegetters Giro Preview

The first clash of titans takes place in the Giro d'Italia. This is the season's first Grand Tour, but these guys will be riding like it's their second. Some of these riders here have more seconds than an hour, others you'd think were from the third world. Ram reports that the Giro has accommodated additional second placings in the sprints for our great sprinters this year. It has been reported elsewhere that Tyler Farrar and Matt Goss have undertaken height reduction surgery on their legs, to make sure that if they actually do beat Cavendish in one of the sprints, that they still appear shorter than him on the podium. Long-time loser Daniele Bennati has been very quiet this season because he tried out a career in acting but he was never able to take the stage. Mark Renshaw and Theo Bos will play violin with each other on the night before an expected bunch sprint, both of which insist to play second fiddle. Finally, Mark Cavendish, while a hungry little man at dinner time, rarely goes back for seconds.

Notable sprinting starters and their # podiums this year:
FARRAR Tyler, 4 - +1 then withdrew
GOSS Matthew Harley, 4 - +2 already
RENSHAW Mark, 3 - +1 then withdrew
KRISTOFF Alexander, 1 - +1
BOS Theo, 1
BENNATI Daniele, 1 - +1 then withdrew
CAVENDISH Mark, 0 - +1
GUARDINI Andrea, 0
MODOLO Sacha, 0
DEMARE Arnaud, 0
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco José, 0
CHICCHI Francesco, 0
NIZZOLO Giacomo, 0
HAEDO Juan José, 0 - +1
FEILLU Romain, 0
FERRARI Roberto, 0 - +1

Eight possible bunch sprints, therefore 16 points up for grabs. We can expect to see some serious movement in the table, and a clear leader of the 2012 placegetter sprinter competition should certainly emerge. Notably, it will mark the end of Sagan's run as leader since he is not riding. We can expect Farrar, Goss and Renshaw to rise like meringue in the oven. But which other riders will make their moves: Bos? Cavendish? Bennati? Guardini?

The likely sprint stages of the Giro:

stage 2 Sunday, May 6 206 km

Goss & Soupe

Stage 3 Monday, May 7 190 km

JJ Haedo & Farrar

stage 5 Thursday, May 10 199 km

Goss & Bennati

stage 6 Friday, May 11 207 km

Most definitely not a sprint stage.

stage 9 Monday, May 14 171 km

Crash affected bunch sprint.

stage 11 Wednesday, May 16 243 km

Not really a sprint, most sprinters were dropped.

stage 13 Friday, May 18 121 km

Kristoff & Renshaw.

stage 18 hursday, May 24 139 km

Cavendish & Ferrari.

we need this emoticon to have a 2 on the cup

TELL US FORUM, what do you forsee?

Jamsque · « **Reply #35 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:03 »

I expect Tyler Farrar to jump out to an early lead in this classification at the Giro before pulling out at the same time as Cavendish to make sure he doesn't actually win anything.

just some guy · « **Reply #36 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:51 »

Goss thinks it is funny as well

Quote

Matt Goss@mattgoss1986
Guess u gotta just laugh! 4 x 2nd places in 6 days!

Havetts · « **Reply #37 on:** May 05, 2012, 01:39 »

I guess it'll be Farrar

DinZ · « **Reply #38 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:47 »

After Turkey it is hard to look beyond Goss. he was totally almost dominating there.

bicing · « **Reply #39 on:** May 06, 2012, 17:01 »

Goss wastes no time, immediately moving into equal first for the year in the standings!
His first first for the year!!

Arb · « **Reply #40 on:** May 06, 2012, 17:23 »

Goss is a supreme athlete, he doesn't bother with first or third, just hammers that number two home. Relentless consistency two, last five sprints contested? Two two two two two.

Whatever happens for the rest of the season I think his work over the last two weeks shouldn't be forgotten.

just some guy · « **Reply #41 on:** May 06, 2012, 17:26 »

Quote from: The Arbiter on May 06, 2012, 17:23

Goss is a supreme athlete, he doesn't bother with first or third, just hammers that number two home. Relentless consistency two, last five sprints contested? Two two two two two.

Whatever happens for the rest of the season I think his work over the last two weeks shouldn't be forgotten.

QFTT

ram · « **Reply #42 on:** May 06, 2012, 17:28 »

I've seen less number twos in a toilet. Mighty effort.

AG · « **Reply #43 on:** May 07, 2012, 02:16 »

pretty impressive from Gossy. You gotta give it to him for that ;D

bicing · « **Reply #44 on:** May 07, 2012, 07:05 »

Before his big 2012 campaign, Matt Goss spoke to Desmond Tutu about his upcoming year. Seems like it's worked wonders...

... or should I say two-ders...

Tuart · « **Reply #45 on:** May 07, 2012, 08:07 »

Quote from: just some guy on May 06, 2012, 17:26

QFTT

Quoted For The Two?

just some guy · « **Reply #46 on:** May 07, 2012, 08:23 »

Quote from: Tuart on May 07, 2012, 08:07

Quoted For The Two?

;D

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/goss-happy-finishing-second-to-cavendish-at-giro

bicing · « **Reply #47 on:** May 07, 2012, 08:45 »

Quote from: just some guy on May 07, 2012, 08:23

;D

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/goss-happy-finishing-second-to-cavendish-at-giro

He's obviously seen this competition and is gunning for it.

Arb · « **Reply #48 on:** May 10, 2012, 16:26 »

Goss now without peer!

just some guy · « **Reply #49 on:** May 11, 2012, 07:50 »

Quote from: The Arbiter on May 10, 2012, 16:26

Goss now without peer!

We should name this the Goss award - and keep tabs over the years

we can even send a little something to the teams saying rider X won the most prestige cycling award the velorooms Goss award

bicing · « **Reply #50 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:10 »

Quote from: just some guy on May 11, 2012, 07:50

We should name this the Goss award - and keep tabs over the years

we can even send a little something to the teams saying rider X won the most prestige cycling award the velorooms Goss award

This year Goss is the early leader, but in past years we had Farrar, Rojas and Bennati. It's Goss' first year of secondness. We would have to do a retroactive count of the past few years, because if Farrar or Bennati has won this competition two years running, then the award should be in their name! Or maybe there's another guy who really dominated the podiums before I started getting into cycling.

I can start working on a cheap trophy. Anyone got some ideas?

My first idea would be to show a finish line, the winner crossing the line not celebrating and the second place guy with his arms in the air like a champion.

Martin318is · « **Reply #51 on:** May 11, 2012, 08:43 »

I guess I have been confused about this comp since its creation.

In my head, I thought we were always talking about the guy who podiums but DOESN'T win anything worthwhile - Thats why I had always considered Farrar as 'my boy' to win it.

Never even considered Goss because I always assumed he would win races and take himself out of the running.... Will have to reconsider now because if a win doesn't disqualify then obviously the most consistent runner up is going to be Goss... Any sprint where Cav turns up (and stays upright) Goss will get 2nd and Farrar will get 3rd or worse...

Tuart · « **Reply #52 on:** May 11, 2012, 09:28 »

Should incorporate wins into the equation. Someone who wins 5 and gets 10 places is at 66% whereas someone who wins twice but has 8 places is at 80%. Which one is more of a 'placegetter'?

bicing · « **Reply #53 on:** May 11, 2012, 10:14 »

Thanks Tuart and Martin for the suggestions. I will incorporate wins into the tally.
I've always seen the tally as a guide rather than a ranking/ladder/standings, because of the reasons you give.

It's hard to say now who stands out, but I think all the talk about Goss is that he's come second in every single one of his 6 podiums for one win. That's a horrible strike rate! What if he gets over 15 podiums in a year!? If his # wins is less than 3 you would have to say it would have been a pretty placegetter year for him. But if both him and Tyler get about 10 and Tyler doesn't pick up a win, then he has to be the winner of this competition.

The point is it's relative. And i think that's good because we can make our own opinions about who the biggest loser is and have good discussions about it.

Anyway... For some fun...

In 2010, FARRAR Tyler's best season scored 12 podiums in these races
In 2009, FARRAR Tyler had 13 (his 2nd best season)
In 2007, BENNATI Daniele had 9 in his best season
Last year, Rojas' best season he had 8 podiums

bicing · « **Reply #54 on:** May 12, 2012, 08:34 »

farrar is out OF THE GIRO, changes the whole landscaoe of this comp|tition!!!!
BENNATI too!

bicing · « **Reply #55 on:** May 16, 2012, 00:46 »

Tour of California has been fascinating: Sagan has finally been winning some bunch sprints, so he's pushing himself out of contention for this title.
But we've had another run of consecutive second placings from an Australian...

welcome to the competition, Mr. Heinrich Haussler!

Jamsque · « **Reply #56 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:13 »

Haussler obviously annoyed at being upstaged by his squad-mate Tyler Farrar and wanted to prove that he is still one of the best nearly-men in the peloton.

bicing · « **Reply #57 on:** May 16, 2012, 11:14 »

Quote from: Jamsque on May 16, 2012, 10:13

Haussler obviously annoyed at being upstaged by his squad-mate Tyler Farrar and wanted to prove that he is still one of the best nearly-men in the peloton.

It's clearly also a push for Olympics selection as nearly-wins tend to be exactly what the Australian national team look for (except Cadel).

Havetts · « **Reply #58 on:** May 17, 2012, 00:07 »

Haussler making a case for himself. Four 2nd places in 4 stages, hes becoming the next Matthew Goss!

DinZ · « **Reply #59 on:** May 17, 2012, 02:53 »

Nathan Haas just tweeted that Haussler's new nickname is Buzz Aldrin

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